1) THE CAR HAS BEEN SOLD. 2) I actually like these cars. This is the second one I’ve almost bought myself. They’re cool. It’s not my fault they’re made by Ford. 3) Yeah, I’m a Mopar guy. Mopars (and Mopar people like me) are goofy too. I’ve made an entire RUclips channel out of that fact. Did I really disrespect Ford any more than they deserve? Come on. Grow up. 4) At least ten people have told me that their timing chain jumped just like the one in this car - in all kinds of models, including classic Chrysler products. It’s a totally new one for me - but today, like every other day, is for learning. If it weren’t for those comments, I wouldn’t have known how frequent a problem this was in the day. That’s the real point of this interaction - we can all learn together. Let’s keep doing that.
As someone who has owned cars from all three manufacturers, some good and some not so good, I figured out that there are things they all got right and things they all got wrong. Any time I hear someone start running one of them down, it lets me know they just haven't worked on them enough to really know them inside and out, so the default response is to bash the manufacturer. I knew just by hearing it crank over that it had most likely jumped time in a bad way, but I've heard that sound coming from a Ford before. I had the same thing happen in a '79 Newport. My suggestion is that the next time you run into an issue on something that isn't a Chrysler product, ask yourself what you think would be causing it if it were a Chrysler. It might help you figure it out more quickly. Carry on, O' Defender of Dead Dodges. :)
@@jamesrodriquez2863 that’s the thing! I’ve done my fair share of time wrenching on Fords. I built a spicy 302 once. I freshened an FE engine once. Oh, resealed intake and went through triple Holleys on another 390 car once, and tuned it. I’ve done more than enough actual hands on Ford stuff to know what they are and what they aren’t. They did things the Ford way - which is just kinda weird. Haha.
Cruise-O-Matic is a “dual range) 3 speed automatic. When the green dot is selected the trans will start in low and shift twice. When the white dot is selected the trans starts in second . This is useful for taking off on slippery surfaces like snow. Actually a very good reliable unit.
See, that’s what I thought. I think I was talking about a different Ford that also had green and white dots on the shift indicator and referenced this configuration. Someone commented and said it was actually two different gear ratio sets for first and second. I can’t remember what other Ford I could have been talking about.
@@richardbates2367 The Ford FMX isn't much different than the FX and MX cruise o matic these cars came with. The FMX is the small FX case with the larger 31 spline MX internals in it and the rear pump eliminated and the PRND21 shift pattern. It's really a borg warner transmission, model 8 and 12 BW is the same design used in all kinds of other cars around the world. I rebuilt my FX cruise o matic myself, nothing flimsy in that thing at all and will break the tires loose shifting into second with good throttle input. Transgo shift kit and external cooler helps a ton with them.
A 351 Cleveland 4 barrel with a C4 or C6 would take care of the headache pronto! Love these cars...grew up in the back seat of a Black 64 500 XL with red interior - My favorite interior and console - so cool, and the wheel covers were amazing for stock. Just wonderful design.
Another easy check is to pop the cap off the distributor ,put a wrench on the crank bolt and turn the crank back and forth to see how much slack there is. Then bring the engine to where #1 cylinder should fire and see how far off the rotor is from #1 on the cap.
I’ve seen many cars that have sat for ages with the distributors pointed the wrong way after people have messed with them. And the slack check may not necessarily tell the whole story, but it’s definitely a good thing to look at too.
Thanks for the Clutch shout out. I knew there was something else cool about you. I always tell people they're the best rock and roll band they aren't listening to. Always enjoy your content and usually learn something. Thanks again
Very common issue to come into the shop back in the day. You could hear no compression on any cylinder on the first crank. next I would pop the set the timing mark @ TDC, pop the distributor cap and the rotor alignment with #1 or #6 tower. You could tell right away the timing chain jumped if the phasing was off.
Thank you for releasing this one! We’re EXHAUSTED from seeing your talent, natural mechanical ability and successful projects. All aboard the failboat!
Neat car, I like the sliding steering column and the 'cockpit-like seating. Hopefully that XL lands in the hands of some Ford people that can get it going again.
The Ford is cool. The Ford is broken. The Ford is a Ford. The dog is lonely. The birds are cute. That about covers it. I look forward to your next video. BTW, Happy New Year.
That's a sweet old Ford. The 64 T-bird I have will allow the steering column to move sideways freely when ever it's in park. The trans has three gears. Starting in the bigger, green dot position allows it to work normally but putting it in the small dot (normal?) position makes it start in 2nd. The only time I've found that useful was when driving in snow. Otherwise, it just makes it drive like a slug. FWIW, worn timing chains tend to slip or break (the latter isn't your case) when the engine is shut off. So it's totally possible for it to run one day and not the next. It's hard to believe that slipping a tooth or two would kill ALL compression though..
I had one of these! A friend of my dad's gave it to me when I was 14 years old for my first car but it was so rusty I didn't use it and ended up putting the 289 out of it in a 1959 ford pickup my dad had, I used it for work a couple years. The 64 galaxy 500 I had, had a swing away steering column like the T birds, I'm pretty sure it was really rare for a galaxy. My first car ended up being a 1970 dodge coronet!👍
XL stands for xtra lively. I've got 3 of them here😁 galaxies are my thing. I have a 63 500xl i got at 13 years old. Learned many things bringing that old girl back to usefulness. Fe's used nylon cam gears originally.
Happy New Year DDG. Ferd videos are a good test for how much I like a channel. Will I watch? Yes, if it's you, Derek, or Puddin. Lot's of chuckles in the commentary lol.
You've come across some of the more interesting engine problems I've seen in recent videos. The Studebaker and the Galaxie both had issues I personally have not come across. I appreciate the way you work through those issues. Im pretty sure I'd get frustrated and bail on it much quicker than you did.
My grandfather was a Ford guy. He always got in-line 6's under the hood. When Ford 20:06 offered the Galaxy with the 406 engine, a neighbor got one. My Dad said it was like a rocket compared to grandpa's. He tried to find one but no one had them. That's how he wound up with his 68' Charger.
I worked on a 360 years ago. It had a terrible oil leak from the front. The chain was so bad it wore a hole in the chain cover. I saw a 318 swallow a valve because of a chain. On GM, chains were a time change item at 70,000 miles. We used to replace with steel gears. They used nylon because it was quiet. Fun video.
Great video. Glad you released it. If you are looking to re-home that Galaxie my wife might actually not give me too much grief for buying it. Our first car was a galaxie 500 and she reminds me all the time I never should have sold it.
My Dad was a Ford guy so that's where I started learning,picked Mopar for myself tho love some old Fords.Dad also had a 55 2dr Desoto Hemi in the 70s.My brother put the wrong plugs in it and beat the pistons out,didn't have the sense to stop trying to crank it after it hammered the first time,I was just a kid but even I knew it was toast.He had one of the transition Torinos that wasn't a fastback or really a Torino other than badges,it was a Galaxy 500.70 and a1/2 I think.My Ford knowledge is hit and miss.
It was a Falcon not a Galaxie. Galaxie was always the full size car. Fairlane, that body style Falcon and Torino was mid size car. That 70 1/2 Falcon being a mid-size was an oddity.
I was thinking the other day when I saw where someone referred to the GTO as the first muscle car. They came out in 63. The super stocks came out in 62, and they were more muscle and predated the GTO. 🤔
You don't have to change the flex plate when changing to a small high torque starter. I have a 64 Galaxie 390. It had the 50 pound old style starter. I just bolted on a Jegs high torque starter and have had no issues with that.
Love the car! It’s beautiful and I can say I would be proud to own it, I can honestly say that I would feel the same if it was a Plymouth satellite or even a Studebaker! Back in the day all the cars had curves and lines you don’t really see today not to mention the attention to detail. Some folks will never know how it feels to ride in vintage cars but I do. The same can be said for a vintage bicycle. Forgive me I’m old. Lol love your work! You are in Oregon aren’t you? I live on the coast! We have some good old cars on Facebook marketplace down here.
My first car was this. Shift on console, no eagle on the fenders, black interior with red body/black vinyl roof. Loved it .... and so did the ladies. Moonglow inst. lighting was really great at night. Didn't like the weight of the cruise-0- matic and the FE. Put a lot of stress on the front suspension. The intake manifold was half of the valve cover rail = an 80lbs boat anchor. Freeway gears and plenty of power made road trips a breeze. A magical car indeed. My grandfather in Port Orchard had a black '61 StarLiner that must've been designed by the same body team. That car is now in a Tacoma Museum.
I like that body style. We(my friends and I when I was young) used to run around in one with a 390. It was a really good ride and dependable as Hell!! Ford starters are always a problem on Fords through the '80s. I had a '67 BelAir station wagon that my ex tried to rev high as Hell before dumping it into reverse. 3 teeth sheared of the cam gear(original nylon type). Needless to say, that was fun fixing up. Timing chains and gears can jump at any time with the old original timing sets. So no surprise it was that and I wondered why you didn't check for tdc sooner(like a couple months ago/)
Man… I have no idea. A big part is that I’ve heard stories of timing chain problems, but have one ever seen exactly one actual problem - and that car still ran.
My family never had any luck with fords, something major was always broken on them. I decided to get rid of my ‘94 ranger( also my first car) after the transmission refused to shift into any gear and I was late for work. I love my ‘08 monster mile ram and everyone else in The family love their Jeeps. My aunt (who only owns mopars) said “you guys should’ve had mopars the entire time!”
Never been much of a Ford guy, despite owning several over the years - I must admit this old F150 4x4 I bought a few years back has been the most reliable truck I’ve ever owned, a ‘93 shortbox flareside with a 300 I6 and a 5 spd manual, the thing will literally chew through anything it is my winter rig
That’s like the perfect truck! They get great mileage for a gas truck, and are still plenty torquey and capable of hauling stuff. Plus the more modern interior and nose. I’ve almost acquired one or two similar trucks over the years.
@@DeadDodgeGarage got it cheep, just had to go 800 miles to get it -made the trip fine, I put a few $$$ in it and pretty much have a list of”if you ever want to sell that thing call me”
I used to own a 66 mustang with a 289 4 speed. It was pretty cool. It was my daily driver from about from 1990 to 1994. That's the extent of my Ford experience. Somebody out there wants that car I'm sure. Too bad you couldn't get it running.
XL was mostly an interior option. You got front bucket seats, Thunderbird style rear seats, center console with shifter unless you had the Sing-Away steering wheel option then no console shifter, and interior door illumination. There are some XL specific exterior pieces including different hub caps. Would be a nice project car for someone.
My dad bought a 64 galaxie 500XL in 1999 for a project and it had that same POS radio in it from the 80's. After about 19 years of it sitting in the garage and life getting in the way more times than I care to admit we finally got it pretty much all done to the point where we could drive the thing. That car was a total pain in the ass. I don't know if someone placed a curse on it at one point or another, but I never had or seen so much trouble with new parts and getting stuff to work right on a car ever. So, what do I do? I went out and bought a 64 4 door sedan LOL that one went together a lot better. The sliding column is pretty unusual in one of these and that solid plate on the center console without any shifter cutout is very expensive. The 4 door is the best driving car I've ever had. My grandparents had a 63 galaxie 4 door 352 auto and a 64 country sedan 289 3 speed overdrive. My uncle took the country sedan to college in eastern WA in about 1972 or so. The battery went dead on him in the middle of winter, and he got someone to help him either push start or tow start it and when he let the clutch out the timing chain jumped time and that was the end of that 289. Pretty sure it was well over 100,000 miles by then. They had those cars for a long time and drove the shit out of both of them.
Fascinating. Halfway through the video, I was thinking someone swapped the spark plug wires around to be funny. I figured you'd have caught it immediately though. Then I thought maybe the distributor got pulled and put back 180 out or something. Then I thought stuck valves, but all of them? Nah. Never thought timing chain.
But the wires being on the wrong plugs would not explain the low compression. In fact, all plugs and wires should be removed for a proper compression test.
Back in the 80s I had a 73 Cougar that I drove into our driveway shut off the engine that was running fine (351 C). Came out the next day to go to work and the engine wouldn't start. You could tell by the sound that there was no compression. Timing chain had jumped. Spent that next Saturday replacing the timing chain in the drive way. Started right up after that. And yes, the Cleveland anyway, had nylon on the timing gears. It looked as if someone had done it before also. Still rather have a Ford over a dodge ;>)
I know a lot about those 1963-64 Galaxies. 500 was upscale trim 352 V8. XL is the top of the line, 390 engine. You could also get a 289. A 6 cylinder and a race ready 406vtri power.
Trim level had nothing to do with engine size. Nothing. You could get an XL with a 289 and you could get a Custom with a 427. In 63 you could get a 300 with a 427 with 2 fours.
@@davidkeeton6716 you are right most of the 427 cars were the base model cars to save weight, Some even used Econoline seats because they had less weight. Trim level had nothing to do with what engine they were packing.
Cool find! I'd love to find one in decent condition for a fair price. I'd paint it turquoise with a black interior. What do they want for it and where is it located?
Old timer I worked with years ago had a well used 65 ford pickup…trying to convince me these were the most reliable trucks in the world he says “ best thing about these old Fords is you don’t need to change oil anymore-lose a little to burning a little to leaking and you just top them off” it was 30 years old at the time and had 285k on it so …😅
I've had this happen before, on a Ford. 1970 Ford Mustang Grande, it was a customer's car. Timing chain jumped while the car was in the shop for unrelated reasons. All the sudden no start. Fun times. And of course one of the water pump bolts broke during tear-down, because, Ford.
Jamie had my mates 318 do exactly the same thing drove into the carpark and it wouldn’t start after that, turned out to be the nylon cam gear the chain just pulled off when I pulled it apart
I'm seeing this video 5 months down the road, and I understand the car has been sold. But I had a 1973 Plymouth Voyager van very much like the one that appears in the background of Jamie's lot (same color, no dome), and it did EXACTLY the same thing - ran perfectly one day, and had a jumped timing chain the next. It CAN happen. Like to say I miss that vehicle, but I don't. I literally had a repair a week as long as I owned it!
Drove a 70 Nova into my driveway to put a clutch in it. Shut it off ,put clutch in, no start,nylon gear disintegrated,bent every valve. 350 ci. Same happened with a 318. Yup,seen it happen.
From a loooong time Ford guy, No harm, No foul about you picking on Ford. That's what we do, right? I've always thought the way Mopar did things was "weird". I firmly believe the reason the 1"x 3/8 drive extension was invented was for working under the hood of Chrysler products. Short socket=nope, too short. Deep socket=nope, too long, something in the way. And then there's that spare ballast resistor in the glovebox...lol. But, in reality, we're all "Car" guys, right?. I love and appreciate all of that old iron, and it seems like you do too. I'm a sucker for an early Challenger in Plum Crazy! When I started driving in 1977 people were practically giving away those big block 60s Galaxie XLs and T-Birds. They were $2-500 all day long in nice condition. They were just too darn old and thirsty for that expensive $.70/ gallon gas, and I bought and sold a bunch of them over the years. My favorite is the 66 Galaxie XL or XL 7 Litre. That 64 is a nice car. The Galaxie XL was the Sport model, like an Impala SS. Usually 2 door hardtop, bucket seats, console shift, etc. The console and column shift is strange on your car, but that was the only way to get the swing away steering column on an XL. I've always thought it was a gimmicky option, lol. Pardon my "old guy" Ford rambling. It's 20 degrees and windy as hell, so I can't go out to the shop and work on my 78 El Camino. 👍
Exactly! No I completely agree with you. I rib Mopars all the time... from the goofy electrical systems to the odd or derivative styling choices and the poor build quality. I guess these other Ford guys just can't take a joke. Haha. I appreciate all classic cars. I love to see them still driving - no matter who made them. But I have my preference - I'm well accustomed to Chrysler's weirdness and that's where I like to stay as much as possible. I will say, I have this super trick short, flex head 3/8" Snapon ratchet handle, and it was an absolute necessity for working on Ford 5.4 and 4.6 truck engines from the 2000s. Because everything in and around those engines is awful... honestly it's pieces of junk like those that have really informed my opinion on Ford in general. That probably isn't quite fair with respect to the classics.
If you replace the chain clean the small pieces of nylon from the top gear out of the oil pan and while you are down there replace the oil pump. The very small pieces of nylon will get past the pickup screen and are notorious for wiping out the oil pump a few miles after the new gears and chain are installed.
Strange, never seen a swing away in a 64 XL or the console shift delete, and I've owned 12 of these Galaxies. I still have a 427 side oiler to put back in a Galaxy. Are you gonna hold on to this one
Interesting! A few commenters have said they have seen others over the years. No, I’m not going to buy it. It’s too Fordy for me - but it’s a cool car, and I really do like it.
The only reason I have any interest in this car is because it is very similar to the car my dad had back in "The Sixties". I was just a little kid, but I remember it quite well. It wasn't an "XL", but it was a Galaxie 500, and it had a 390 but with a much better and more fun 4 on the floor. Bench seat, red interior. The exterior had the same white top, and the lower body was about the same red as your 68 Charger. It was a nice looking car, but that 390 could be embarrassed quite easily by a 383 Fury of the same era. Even my dad admitted that. Dad had a much cooler car before that, but a little before my time - a 57 Fury with the dual quad 318. Now there is a car I'd love to get ahold of, but not many of those around. Anyway, this was a good lesson on timing chain diagnosis. I still think a 440 Mopar would be a great swap.
Yup they will jump time usually just like that. At the gas pump or some other equally inconvenient place. My first experience with it was my dads 73 B300 with a 360. This happened in about 76, with about 50k miles on it. Why did the plastic gear disintegrate that soon? Who knows? Murphy, probably. Point type ignition would pop back if the points weren't just right. Add a bunch of miles and years, and a bit of a kick back on one cylinder and it can jump time even if it doesn't have a plastic cam gear.
Pop off cap and rotate the engine backwards and watch the rotor to see how far it takes before the rotor starts moving, to see how much play is in the timing chain
I'm betting they started the car, revved it up, and the chain let go. That's to be expected on an engine with 150,000 miles. The Ford FE engine family is one of the most durable V8 engines ever built by anyone.
You working on a Ford is still acceptable because the Dodge Brothers started out working for Henry Ford. The 500XL was the high performance version of the Galaxie and could be ordered with the 352, High performance 352, 390, High performance 390, 406, or even the 427. They were big and heavy but were respectable performers. Theres a cool video here on RUclips of a guy rally racing one of them in England against all those tiny European rally cars and storming the track. You can almost see the looks of outright TERROR on the actual cars as the behemoth comes barreling down on them like a pissed off rhinoceros because its 427 has the power to make it pull hard.
I had a 64 XL 390 possi in 1976. It cost a tank of gas to drive from Greenlake to Monroe auto swap meet. And a tank to go back. Gas was .72 cents a gallon.. 😮
I have had 3 cars jump time. All 3 jumped under the same conditions. Low speed, light throttle and then suddenly slamming the brakes to avoid an idiot. All 3 continued running but idled extremely low and almost no power. All of them were early 70's 318,s.
Well then! Owner of a '64 Galaxie 500 2-door hardtop name of Paco, The Lowrider of Goodwill, and thanks to your interspecies foray you get a damn subscription.
Some ways to look at this issue: Find tdc with the finger in the number one spark plug hole pushing air out to confirm you are on the compression stroke. When I jumped timing, the spark timing was also retarded and it ran poorly after I advanced the spark timing by rotating the distributor. Which got it running but did nothing about the cam timing. It jumped a second gear and then it was back firing and would not start at all. A slipped outer wheel on the damper will ruin a lot of measurements. You can turn the crank from the front and look at the distributor to see how much slack is in the chain by seeing how far the engine had to turn back and forth to move the rotor. On cars with distributors in the front you may be able to see the chain through the the hole where the distributor goes after you pull it out.
I have a story almost just like that in a '73 Swinger. It jumped, I corrected the distributor timing, and it kept going like that for a long time... until it jumped again, and then finally a third time to the extent that it would no longer run.
Hold the center screw still, loosen the nut, all this on the top of the steering gear, turn the screw about a 1/16 of a turn clockwise, no more than an 1/8. Tighten the jam nut while holding the screw still. If that doesn't fix it, what he said, take it to a pro. I mean it's only your steering. This is the best place to go cheap, right.
Stop worrying about what other people will say and follow your muse. Its fun watching you dig into old fords and Studebakers, and what ever else strikes you.
Turns out the swingaway steering was a 50 dollar option at the time. Also, when in park it should swing away. But in neutral or drive it should stay put. Also over 500, 000 galaxie 500XLs were made that year. So finding parts should be easier than dodge parts in that sense.
Interesting. I have a lot of experience with a Thunderbird with the swing away column, and in that car, you had to lift the shifter up slightly from park to disengage the lock and slide the column over. That way, it would be locked in place unless you wanted to move it, which makes a lot more sense to me. Given that the shifter goes above the park position, and that there is an extra spring loaded catch in there, I believe that is how it’s supposed to work. In this car it moves as soon as put into park, but you can still lift the shifter upward into that extra space. I am fairly certain it is a simple adjustment issue. Parts would definitely be easier than just about any Dodge ever made. Haha. I’m not used to a world in which parts are easy to buy. I don’t think I belong there!
I have several Ford repair stories. Shocking I know! One involves a friend of mine tricking me into stealing a Maverick to remove the front clip for his Maverick, that he crashed into a flower pot while under the influence of uncontrolled substances. The concrete flower pot was bigger than his car. His father was a cop and highly suspicious. Thankfully the statute of limitations has expired, because I am too handsome for jail!
We have a deal! However, there is an old movie loosely based on the unlawful incident named.... "Dirty Carrie and Crazy Steve. Oh crap! I'm going to have to move again!@@DeadDodgeGarage
Yeah, and I’m done giving it out because exactly *zero* interested parties have followed through to try and buy it. This isn’t eBay, the video is here for entertainment. Sorry.
From the factory, yes. My 64 has the swing away wheel and I put a Lokar floor shifter in it and just cut the column shifter down to about 4 inches and put a white 3/4" ball on the end to match the shift knob on the Lokar. So I still can lift that short lever towards the park position and then slide the wheel over.
Dang, I always miss the boat! I would have bought that in a heartbeat but I just came across your channel. Can you disclose what it sold for so I can be more disappointed
*watches Dodge-less video, hears you say "Fords are weird", unsubscribes* 😆 Nice video. As a Ford lover, I liked it. I'd love to find an old Galaxie or something like it. Sadly, I'll probably find 50 of these around here for half the price of 1 classic Mopar.
The Power Probe! I have two or three of them. They are the absolute greatest tool for electrical diagnosis and things like this. They’re not a sponsor, but they should be…
Yep, nylon timing gears, had that issue with my 68 Monaco 440 engine, easy fix. Anytime I am going to work on an engine that has sat for any length of time I always pull the plugs and squirt oil down the cylinder and crank it over with the plugs out to lube the cylinders as well as the rest of the engine, make me cringe to see someone fire up a dry engine. Looks like they didn't change their oil very often, saved money on oil changes while destroying their engine, common practice for many people even to this day.
I don’t bother. Especially when it was running within the last decade. If it’s good, it’s going to run - and will be lubricated quickly thereafter. If it’s not good, no amount of magic juice down the plug holes is going to do much. That’s the theory I operate on, and so far I have had *zero* problems after firing up a long sitting engine without oiling the holes. None. And I’ve revived a lot. But I understand - and by no means am I saying that it’s a bad idea.
I know what you're saying, but I tend to operate on the cautious side, don't know how many adds I've seen on TV about oil that clings to metal parts to protect your engine on startup or claims that 90% of engine wear occurs at startup or the fact that oil degrades with age not to mention contamination from fuel dilution or by products of combustion and any engine that has sat for years with old oil could have pockets eaten out of the bearings by acid, which I have in fact seen, so yea I prefer to error on the side of caution, but hey to each their own. At least we agree one thing, Mopar or no car. Have to say though given no other choice I would take a Ford over a chevy any day of the week. I grew up in the fifties and sixties driving or riding in those old cars and it was a great time to be both alive and a kid, you would go to jail today for doing what we did back then, go it was fun. @@DeadDodgeGarage
I was with timing chain when I saw the comp gauge. So I do know Ford 390 and 352s and 360s because they were common farm trucks and the fact I was the 7up fleet mechanic in 79. Most times they ran and were parked then when they try to restart they would backfire and blow the chains. Yes nylon gears where used. I have seen them blowen to bits several times. But like you said it's a Ford. On a lighter note I sent Tom money through the cosmos so when it lands I own a 67 rat coronet. Just make sure it runs for me son.
1) THE CAR HAS BEEN SOLD.
2) I actually like these cars. This is the second one I’ve almost bought myself. They’re cool. It’s not my fault they’re made by Ford.
3) Yeah, I’m a Mopar guy. Mopars (and Mopar people like me) are goofy too. I’ve made an entire RUclips channel out of that fact. Did I really disrespect Ford any more than they deserve? Come on. Grow up.
4) At least ten people have told me that their timing chain jumped just like the one in this car - in all kinds of models, including classic Chrysler products. It’s a totally new one for me - but today, like every other day, is for learning. If it weren’t for those comments, I wouldn’t have known how frequent a problem this was in the day. That’s the real point of this interaction - we can all learn together. Let’s keep doing that.
Keep up the good work Jamie.
As someone who has owned cars from all three manufacturers, some good and some not so good, I figured out that there are things they all got right and things they all got wrong. Any time I hear someone start running one of them down, it lets me know they just haven't worked on them enough to really know them inside and out, so the default response is to bash the manufacturer. I knew just by hearing it crank over that it had most likely jumped time in a bad way, but I've heard that sound coming from a Ford before. I had the same thing happen in a '79 Newport. My suggestion is that the next time you run into an issue on something that isn't a Chrysler product, ask yourself what you think would be causing it if it were a Chrysler. It might help you figure it out more quickly. Carry on, O' Defender of Dead Dodges. :)
@@jamesrodriquez2863 that’s the thing! I’ve done my fair share of time wrenching on Fords. I built a spicy 302 once. I freshened an FE engine once. Oh, resealed intake and went through triple Holleys on another 390 car once, and tuned it. I’ve done more than enough actual hands on Ford stuff to know what they are and what they aren’t. They did things the Ford way - which is just kinda weird. Haha.
@@DeadDodgeGarage They have done some things that make a fella scratch his head. LOL!
Ford is still doing that with it's cars 😂
That old beast is very worthy of a total restoration.
Cruise-O-Matic is a “dual range) 3 speed automatic. When the green dot is selected the trans will start in low and shift twice. When the white dot is selected the trans starts in second . This is useful for taking off on slippery surfaces like snow. Actually a very good reliable unit.
See, that’s what I thought. I think I was talking about a different Ford that also had green and white dots on the shift indicator and referenced this configuration. Someone commented and said it was actually two different gear ratio sets for first and second. I can’t remember what other Ford I could have been talking about.
Ya in later years it became “select shift”, same deal if you put it in 2 it skips 1st and starts out in 2 it is very helpful in snow
So it's in the white dot position where the cruise o matic transmission skips 1st gear taking off lol
Probably still the better option than a old Ford fmx automatic transmission in these lol
@@richardbates2367 The Ford FMX isn't much different than the FX and MX cruise o matic these cars came with. The FMX is the small FX case with the larger 31 spline MX internals in it and the rear pump eliminated and the PRND21 shift pattern. It's really a borg warner transmission, model 8 and 12 BW is the same design used in all kinds of other cars around the world. I rebuilt my FX cruise o matic myself, nothing flimsy in that thing at all and will break the tires loose shifting into second with good throttle input. Transgo shift kit and external cooler helps a ton with them.
A 351 Cleveland 4 barrel with a C4 or C6 would take care of the headache pronto! Love these cars...grew up in the back seat of a Black 64 500 XL with red interior - My favorite interior and console - so cool, and the wheel covers were amazing for stock. Just wonderful design.
Another easy check is to pop the cap off the distributor ,put a wrench on the crank bolt and turn the crank back and forth to see how much slack there is. Then bring the engine to where #1 cylinder should fire and see how far off the rotor is from #1 on the cap.
I’ve seen many cars that have sat for ages with the distributors pointed the wrong way after people have messed with them. And the slack check may not necessarily tell the whole story, but it’s definitely a good thing to look at too.
Thanks for the Clutch shout out. I knew there was something else cool about you. I always tell people they're the best rock and roll band they aren't listening to. Always enjoy your content and usually learn something. Thanks again
Thank you! I’ve actually seen Clutch live twice. I’m a big fan.
Thank you for releasing this vlog ,
Jamie 🙏
Great diagnostic tips
Hopefully , this car will find a good home 🏡 ( hint 😉 hint Jamie )
Very common issue to come into the shop back in the day. You could hear no compression on any cylinder on the first crank. next I would pop the set the timing mark @ TDC, pop the distributor cap and the rotor alignment with #1 or #6 tower. You could tell right away the timing chain jumped if the phasing was off.
Thank you for releasing this one! We’re EXHAUSTED from seeing your talent, natural mechanical ability and successful projects. All aboard the failboat!
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My dad had one of these. Wasn't an XL and it had a 352 2 barrel.
Pretty fast and smooth. It was a nice car.
Neat car, I like the sliding steering column and the 'cockpit-like seating.
Hopefully that XL lands in the hands of some Ford people that can get it going again.
The Ford is cool. The Ford is broken. The Ford is a Ford. The dog is lonely. The birds are cute. That about covers it. I look forward to your next video. BTW, Happy New Year.
That's a sweet old Ford. The 64 T-bird I have will allow the steering column to move sideways freely when ever it's in park. The trans has three gears. Starting in the bigger, green dot position allows it to work normally but putting it in the small dot (normal?) position makes it start in 2nd. The only time I've found that useful was when driving in snow. Otherwise, it just makes it drive like a slug.
FWIW, worn timing chains tend to slip or break (the latter isn't your case) when the engine is shut off. So it's totally possible for it to run one day and not the next. It's hard to believe that slipping a tooth or two would kill ALL compression though..
I had one of these! A friend of my dad's gave it to me when I was 14 years old for my first car but it was so rusty I didn't use it and ended up putting the 289 out of it in a 1959 ford pickup my dad had, I used it for work a couple years. The 64 galaxy 500 I had, had a swing away steering column like the T birds, I'm pretty sure it was really rare for a galaxy. My first car ended up being a 1970 dodge coronet!👍
XL stands for xtra lively. I've got 3 of them here😁 galaxies are my thing. I have a 63 500xl i got at 13 years old. Learned many things bringing that old girl back to usefulness. Fe's used nylon cam gears originally.
Nice! Yep, I bet that’s what happened then… the nylon on the cam gear exited the chat.
@@DeadDodgeGarage yessir. I've never seen one do it but I've hardly seen everything🤣
Happy New Year DDG. Ferd videos are a good test for how much I like a channel. Will I watch? Yes, if it's you, Derek, or Puddin. Lot's of chuckles in the commentary lol.
You've come across some of the more interesting engine problems I've seen in recent videos. The Studebaker and the Galaxie both had issues I personally have not come across. I appreciate the way you work through those issues. Im pretty sure I'd get frustrated and bail on it much quicker than you did.
Every project is a lesson. If we aren’t learning, what are we doing?! So while it’s frustrating, I’m generally good with it.
My grandfather was a Ford guy. He always got in-line 6's under the hood. When Ford 20:06 offered the Galaxy with the 406 engine, a neighbor got one. My Dad said it was like a rocket compared to grandpa's. He tried to find one but no one had them. That's how he wound up with his 68' Charger.
I’d make that deal!
I worked on a 360 years ago. It had a terrible oil leak from the front. The chain was so bad it wore a hole in the chain cover. I saw a 318 swallow a valve because of a chain. On GM, chains were a time change item at 70,000 miles. We used to replace with steel gears. They used nylon because it was quiet. Fun video.
Great video. Glad you released it. If you are looking to re-home that Galaxie my wife might actually not give me too much grief for buying it. Our first car was a galaxie 500 and she reminds me all the time I never should have sold it.
It is available. They are asking $2500 but it needs to sell.
My Dad was a Ford guy so that's where I started learning,picked Mopar for myself tho love some old Fords.Dad also had a 55 2dr Desoto Hemi in the 70s.My brother put the wrong plugs in it and beat the pistons out,didn't have the sense to stop trying to crank it after it hammered the first time,I was just a kid but even I knew it was toast.He had one of the transition Torinos that wasn't a fastback or really a Torino other than badges,it was a Galaxy 500.70 and a1/2 I think.My Ford knowledge is hit and miss.
It was a Falcon not a Galaxie. Galaxie was always the full size car. Fairlane, that body style Falcon and Torino was mid size car. That 70 1/2 Falcon being a mid-size was an oddity.
@davidkeeton6716 Your right it was a Fairlane other than the Torino badging..1975 been a long time ago lol.
I was thinking the other day when I saw where someone referred to the GTO as the first muscle car. They came out in 63. The super stocks came out in 62, and they were more muscle and predated the GTO. 🤔
but They were not from GM so they couldn't be first.
You don't have to change the flex plate when changing to a small high torque starter. I have a 64 Galaxie 390. It had the 50 pound old style starter. I just bolted on a Jegs high torque starter and have had no issues with that.
Interesting. They must have one that matches that tooth count.
Very nice car worth restoring, Wish I had the money to buy. it.
Love the car! It’s beautiful and I can say I would be proud to own it, I can honestly say that I would feel the same if it was a Plymouth satellite or even a Studebaker! Back in the day all the cars had curves and lines you don’t really see today not to mention the attention to detail. Some folks will never know how it feels to ride in vintage cars but I do. The same can be said for a vintage bicycle. Forgive me I’m old. Lol love your work! You are in Oregon aren’t you? I live on the coast! We have some good old cars on Facebook marketplace down here.
My first car was this. Shift on console, no eagle on the fenders, black interior with red body/black vinyl roof. Loved it .... and so did the ladies. Moonglow inst. lighting was really great at night. Didn't like the weight of the cruise-0- matic and the FE. Put a lot of stress on the front suspension. The intake manifold was half of the valve cover rail = an 80lbs boat anchor. Freeway gears and plenty of power made road trips a breeze. A magical car indeed. My grandfather in Port Orchard had a black '61 StarLiner that must've been designed by the same body team. That car is now in a Tacoma Museum.
I like that body style. We(my friends and I when I was young) used to run around in one with a 390. It was a really good ride and dependable as Hell!! Ford starters are always a problem on Fords through the '80s. I had a '67 BelAir station wagon that my ex tried to rev high as Hell before dumping it into reverse. 3 teeth sheared of the cam gear(original nylon type). Needless to say, that was fun fixing up. Timing chains and gears can jump at any time with the old original timing sets. So no surprise it was that and I wondered why you didn't check for tdc sooner(like a couple months ago/)
Man… I have no idea. A big part is that I’ve heard stories of timing chain problems, but have one ever seen exactly one actual problem - and that car still ran.
My family never had any luck with fords, something major was always broken on them. I decided to get rid of my ‘94 ranger( also my first car) after the transmission refused to shift into any gear and I was late for work. I love my ‘08 monster mile ram and everyone else in The family love their Jeeps. My aunt (who only owns mopars) said “you guys should’ve had mopars the entire time!”
One of the prettiest fords ever made! Gotta love early to mid 60’s Fords!
we had a custom 500 4 door growing up, 352 3 spd manual, great car, many family car trips
Never been much of a Ford guy, despite owning several over the years - I must admit this old F150 4x4 I bought a few years back has been the most reliable truck I’ve ever owned, a ‘93 shortbox flareside with a 300 I6 and a 5 spd manual, the thing will literally chew through anything it is my winter rig
That’s like the perfect truck! They get great mileage for a gas truck, and are still plenty torquey and capable of hauling stuff. Plus the more modern interior and nose. I’ve almost acquired one or two similar trucks over the years.
@@DeadDodgeGarage got it cheep, just had to go 800 miles to get it -made the trip fine, I put a few $$$ in it and pretty much have a list of”if you ever want to sell that thing call me”
I used to own a 66 mustang with a 289 4 speed. It was pretty cool. It was my daily driver from about from 1990 to 1994. That's the extent of my Ford experience. Somebody out there wants that car I'm sure. Too bad you couldn't get it running.
XL was mostly an interior option. You got front bucket seats, Thunderbird style rear seats, center console with shifter unless you had the Sing-Away steering wheel option then no console shifter, and interior door illumination. There are some XL specific exterior pieces including different hub caps. Would be a nice project car for someone.
My dad bought a 64 galaxie 500XL in 1999 for a project and it had that same POS radio in it from the 80's. After about 19 years of it sitting in the garage and life getting in the way more times than I care to admit we finally got it pretty much all done to the point where we could drive the thing. That car was a total pain in the ass. I don't know if someone placed a curse on it at one point or another, but I never had or seen so much trouble with new parts and getting stuff to work right on a car ever. So, what do I do? I went out and bought a 64 4 door sedan LOL that one went together a lot better. The sliding column is pretty unusual in one of these and that solid plate on the center console without any shifter cutout is very expensive. The 4 door is the best driving car I've ever had.
My grandparents had a 63 galaxie 4 door 352 auto and a 64 country sedan 289 3 speed overdrive. My uncle took the country sedan to college in eastern WA in about 1972 or so. The battery went dead on him in the middle of winter, and he got someone to help him either push start or tow start it and when he let the clutch out the timing chain jumped time and that was the end of that 289. Pretty sure it was well over 100,000 miles by then. They had those cars for a long time and drove the shit out of both of them.
That was pretty cool, I seem to remember a couple 390's with timing gears that self- distructed (67 and 68 mustangs) Good video!
I’m learning so much. Haha. Thanks!
At 18 i had a 64 Galaxy wagon with a 289, 2brl, 3 speed manual and 4.11 rear gears.
Same maroon color.
Wow.....what a change up....good content and thanks
That's a really cool car! I'd love to own it
Fascinating. Halfway through the video, I was thinking someone swapped the spark plug wires around to be funny. I figured you'd have caught it immediately though. Then I thought maybe the distributor got pulled and put back 180 out or something. Then I thought stuck valves, but all of them? Nah. Never thought timing chain.
You could probably shuffle the wires back one cylinder it might fire
But the wires being on the wrong plugs would not explain the low compression. In fact, all plugs and wires should be removed for a proper compression test.
That looks identical to the one my grandma bought brand new. She traded it in on a new Torino GT in 1970!
Back in the 80s I had a 73 Cougar that I drove into our driveway shut off the engine that was running fine (351 C). Came out the next day to go to work and the engine wouldn't start. You could tell by the sound that there was no compression. Timing chain had jumped. Spent that next Saturday replacing the timing chain in the drive way. Started right up after that. And yes, the Cleveland anyway, had nylon on the timing gears. It looked as if someone had done it before also. Still rather have a Ford over a dodge ;>)
Well good for you 🤣 yes, I’ve heard this was not uncommon in the day.
I know a lot about those 1963-64 Galaxies. 500 was upscale trim 352 V8. XL is the top of the line, 390 engine. You could also get a 289. A 6 cylinder and a race ready 406vtri power.
The 1964 Race engine was 427 engine ford stopped using the 406 in 1963...
Trim level had nothing to do with engine size. Nothing. You could get an XL with a 289 and you could get a Custom with a 427. In 63 you could get a 300 with a 427 with 2 fours.
@@davidkeeton6716 you are right most of the 427 cars were the base model cars to save weight, Some even used Econoline seats because they had less weight. Trim level had nothing to do with what engine they were packing.
Cool find! I'd love to find one in decent condition for a fair price. I'd paint it turquoise with a black interior.
What do they want for it and where is it located?
I like these cars , especially the XL. I know someone who bought one these brand new. Black with red interior 352 auto. 👍
Old timer I worked with years ago had a well used 65 ford pickup…trying to convince me these were the most reliable trucks in the world he says “ best thing about these old Fords is you don’t need to change oil anymore-lose a little to burning a little to leaking and you just top them off” it was 30 years old at the time and had 285k on it so …😅
I've had this happen before, on a Ford. 1970 Ford Mustang Grande, it was a customer's car. Timing chain jumped while the car was in the shop for unrelated reasons. All the sudden no start. Fun times. And of course one of the water pump bolts broke during tear-down, because, Ford.
Damn them!
Jamie had my mates 318 do exactly the same thing drove into the carpark and it wouldn’t start after that, turned out to be the nylon cam gear the chain just pulled off when I pulled it apart
I love those cars the 1963 and a half is my favorite
Not a Ford fan but I do I like several of the early Ford's
If you miss 100% of the shots means you were trying the hardest....maybe? Lol. I love your "and remembers"
That car looks like it would clean up good. Console without floor shift that's strange.
you got the console as standard equipment for the XL 500 , but had to pay extra for the floor shift.
no. Floor shift was standard, but could not be had with the option of the swing away wheel.@@matzrat5006
@@MrOlea sounds legit. though ive seen that in Mustangs and they have floor shift.
I love ‘63-64 galaxies - beautiful cars
I'm seeing this video 5 months down the road, and I understand the car has been sold. But I had a 1973 Plymouth Voyager van very much like the one that appears in the background of Jamie's lot (same color, no dome), and it did EXACTLY the same thing - ran perfectly one day, and had a jumped timing chain the next. It CAN happen. Like to say I miss that vehicle, but I don't. I literally had a repair a week as long as I owned it!
That’s a cool trick. Haha.
Drove a 70 Nova into my driveway to put a clutch in it. Shut it off ,put clutch in, no start,nylon gear disintegrated,bent every valve. 350 ci. Same happened with a 318. Yup,seen it happen.
Wow… good to know.
One of the first things I did to my old Ford was installed cast iron timing set, I was afraid the phenolic ones would let me down
From a loooong time Ford guy, No harm, No foul about you picking on Ford. That's what we do, right?
I've always thought the way Mopar did things was "weird". I firmly believe the reason the 1"x 3/8 drive extension was invented was for working under the hood of Chrysler products. Short socket=nope, too short. Deep socket=nope, too long, something in the way. And then there's that spare ballast resistor in the glovebox...lol.
But, in reality, we're all "Car" guys, right?. I love and appreciate all of that old iron, and it seems like you do too. I'm a sucker for an early Challenger in Plum Crazy!
When I started driving in 1977 people were practically giving away those big block 60s Galaxie XLs and T-Birds. They were $2-500 all day long in nice condition. They were just too darn old and thirsty for that expensive $.70/ gallon gas, and I bought and sold a bunch of them over the years. My favorite is the 66 Galaxie XL or XL 7 Litre.
That 64 is a nice car. The Galaxie XL was the Sport model, like an Impala SS. Usually 2 door hardtop, bucket seats, console shift, etc. The console and column shift is strange on your car, but that was the only way to get the swing away steering column on an XL. I've always thought it was a gimmicky option, lol.
Pardon my "old guy" Ford rambling. It's 20 degrees and windy as hell, so I can't go out to the shop and work on my 78 El Camino. 👍
Exactly! No I completely agree with you. I rib Mopars all the time... from the goofy electrical systems to the odd or derivative styling choices and the poor build quality. I guess these other Ford guys just can't take a joke. Haha. I appreciate all classic cars. I love to see them still driving - no matter who made them. But I have my preference - I'm well accustomed to Chrysler's weirdness and that's where I like to stay as much as possible.
I will say, I have this super trick short, flex head 3/8" Snapon ratchet handle, and it was an absolute necessity for working on Ford 5.4 and 4.6 truck engines from the 2000s. Because everything in and around those engines is awful... honestly it's pieces of junk like those that have really informed my opinion on Ford in general. That probably isn't quite fair with respect to the classics.
My dad had a 64 Galaxie 500 XL 390 4 speed during the 70s.
If you replace the chain clean the small pieces of nylon from the top gear out of the oil pan and while you are down there replace the oil pump. The very small pieces of nylon will get past the pickup screen and are notorious for wiping out the oil pump a few miles after the new gears and chain are installed.
I’ve seen pans full of nylon before. It’s not pretty…
Strange, never seen a swing away in a 64 XL or the console shift delete, and I've owned 12 of these Galaxies. I still have a 427 side oiler to put back in a Galaxy. Are you gonna hold on to this one
Interesting! A few commenters have said they have seen others over the years. No, I’m not going to buy it. It’s too Fordy for me - but it’s a cool car, and I really do like it.
The only reason I have any interest in this car is because it is very similar to the car my dad had back in "The Sixties". I was just a little kid, but I remember it quite well. It wasn't an "XL", but it was a Galaxie 500, and it had a 390 but with a much better and more fun 4 on the floor. Bench seat, red interior. The exterior had the same white top, and the lower body was about the same red as your 68 Charger. It was a nice looking car, but that 390 could be embarrassed quite easily by a 383 Fury of the same era. Even my dad admitted that.
Dad had a much cooler car before that, but a little before my time - a 57 Fury with the dual quad 318. Now there is a car I'd love to get ahold of, but not many of those around.
Anyway, this was a good lesson on timing chain diagnosis. I still think a 440 Mopar would be a great swap.
Always entertaining and always educational. FYI, the Galaxie's center console will fit a 6 pack of beverages and some ice.
Yup they will jump time usually just like that. At the gas pump or some other equally inconvenient place. My first experience with it was my dads 73 B300 with a 360. This happened in about 76, with about 50k miles on it. Why did the plastic gear disintegrate that soon? Who knows? Murphy, probably. Point type ignition would pop back if the points weren't just right. Add a bunch of miles and years, and a bit of a kick back on one cylinder and it can jump time even if it doesn't have a plastic cam gear.
Pop off cap and rotate the engine backwards and watch the rotor to see how far it takes before the rotor starts moving, to see how much play is in the timing chain
i am interested in the 64 ford lmk where its located .
I have seen the FE model Ford engine, jumped time many times when it was turned off
Very good to know. I’ve heard this in the comments a lot, and not just on FEs. It was a new one for me.
I'm betting they started the car, revved it up, and the chain let go. That's to be expected on an engine with 150,000 miles. The Ford FE engine family is one of the most durable V8 engines ever built by anyone.
You working on a Ford is still acceptable because the Dodge Brothers started out working for Henry Ford. The 500XL was the high performance version of the Galaxie and could be ordered with the 352, High performance 352, 390, High performance 390, 406, or even the 427. They were big and heavy but were respectable performers. Theres a cool video here on RUclips of a guy rally racing one of them in England against all those tiny European rally cars and storming the track. You can almost see the looks of outright TERROR on the actual cars as the behemoth comes barreling down on them like a pissed off rhinoceros because its 427 has the power to make it pull hard.
You do know that a 64 Galaxie fastback with an FE weighs 4140lbs. That's less than a late model Challenger.
@@davidkeeton6716 yes I know how much they weigh. What does that have to do with my comment?
Luke at Thunderheader 289 is genuinely a Ford aficionado.
Someone’s gotta do it
I had a 64 XL 390 possi in 1976.
It cost a tank of gas to drive from Greenlake to Monroe auto swap meet. And a tank to go back. Gas was .72 cents a gallon.. 😮
I have had 3 cars jump time. All 3 jumped under the same conditions. Low speed, light throttle and then suddenly slamming the brakes to avoid an idiot. All 3 continued running but idled extremely low and almost no power. All of them were early 70's 318,s.
Interesting! That’s what I’ve seen it in too - a ‘73 Dart Swinger 318. But it went off a sweet jump…
Well then! Owner of a '64 Galaxie 500 2-door hardtop name of Paco, The Lowrider of Goodwill, and thanks to your interspecies foray you get a damn subscription.
Well I’ll be damned. Welcome aboard!
that Galaxie is gorgeous
My cousin has 64 . It needs work also. It is XL model has console w the column shift. I thought that to be unusual as well.
Some ways to look at this issue:
Find tdc with the finger in the number one spark plug hole pushing air out to confirm you are on the compression stroke.
When I jumped timing, the spark timing was also retarded and it ran poorly after I advanced the spark timing by rotating the distributor. Which got it running but did nothing about the cam timing.
It jumped a second gear and then it was back firing and would not start at all.
A slipped outer wheel on the damper will ruin a lot of measurements.
You can turn the crank from the front and look at the distributor to see how much slack is in the chain by seeing how far the engine had to turn back and forth to move the rotor. On cars with distributors in the front you may be able to see the chain through the the hole where the distributor goes after you pull it out.
I have a story almost just like that in a '73 Swinger. It jumped, I corrected the distributor timing, and it kept going like that for a long time... until it jumped again, and then finally a third time to the extent that it would no longer run.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Yes, exactly, but mine jumped the second time only a day later. And I was taking it easy.
I’d like to see a video showing how to adjust the slop out of a steering box. (Mopar of course)
I’ve tried… it never works out. It’s just not worth trying in my experience. Send it to the experts at Firm Feel.
Hold the center screw still, loosen the nut, all this on the top of the steering gear, turn the screw about a 1/16 of a turn clockwise, no more than an 1/8. Tighten the jam nut while holding the screw still. If that doesn't fix it, what he said, take it to a pro. I mean it's only your steering. This is the best place to go cheap, right.
Restomod it. Man it's worth it. Did a 62 Impala SS. Ready for a 69 Buick Riviera.
I’m not the guy for that. Someone else is welcome to!
Happy new year
This car is so close to a runner. I was clean her up and daily that sweet beast. Put me in touch with the owners if they want to sell.
They do want to sell, but I have zero expectation that any of these people asking about it will actually come through. I only have so much time.
Thanks for the Video Jamie, sorry you don’t car for fords 😮Hahha. Would be a nice driver. Are the people going to sell it.
It is for sale.
I think if starter had issue with flywheel, morning after last parked, thats when timing chain jumped...that morning they went to start.
Totally possible.
Stop worrying about what other people will say and follow your muse. Its fun watching you dig into old fords and Studebakers, and what ever else strikes you.
Turns out the swingaway steering was a 50 dollar option at the time. Also, when in park it should swing away. But in neutral or drive it should stay put. Also over 500, 000 galaxie 500XLs were made that year. So finding parts should be easier than dodge parts in that sense.
Interesting. I have a lot of experience with a Thunderbird with the swing away column, and in that car, you had to lift the shifter up slightly from park to disengage the lock and slide the column over. That way, it would be locked in place unless you wanted to move it, which makes a lot more sense to me. Given that the shifter goes above the park position, and that there is an extra spring loaded catch in there, I believe that is how it’s supposed to work. In this car it moves as soon as put into park, but you can still lift the shifter upward into that extra space. I am fairly certain it is a simple adjustment issue. Parts would definitely be easier than just about any Dodge ever made. Haha. I’m not used to a world in which parts are easy to buy. I don’t think I belong there!
I have nothing but trouble with Ford and similar AMC starters, too.
Spacegrass… nice 🤘🏼
I have several Ford repair stories. Shocking I know! One involves a friend of mine tricking me into stealing a Maverick to remove the front clip for his Maverick, that he crashed into a flower pot while under the influence of uncontrolled substances. The concrete flower pot was bigger than his car. His father was a cop and highly suspicious. Thankfully the statute of limitations has expired, because I am too handsome for jail!
I won’t tell if you don’t 😅
We have a deal! However, there is an old movie loosely based on the unlawful incident named.... "Dirty Carrie and Crazy Steve. Oh crap! I'm going to have to move again!@@DeadDodgeGarage
Nice car with some nice options.
I have to wonder if this video is a spoof.
A spoof? What would that even mean? Lol. This is a video of actual life events, and some light and well deserved ribbing of Ford.
This Ford needs to be fixed properly nice car.And that’s from a MOPAR boy . 👍🏻🇦🇺.
Have they put a price on the. Galaxy to sell??
Yeah, and I’m done giving it out because exactly *zero* interested parties have followed through to try and buy it. This isn’t eBay, the video is here for entertainment. Sorry.
I don't think I have ever seen a Galaxie with the swing away column. At least you now know why it has the column shifter.
From the factory, yes. My 64 has the swing away wheel and I put a Lokar floor shifter in it and just cut the column shifter down to about 4 inches and put a white 3/4" ball on the end to match the shift knob on the Lokar. So I still can lift that short lever towards the park position and then slide the wheel over.
I am sure it was a rare option on a full sized model. People that bought Thunderbirds expected every option on their cars.@@davidkeeton6716
How much are they asking for the galaxy I would be interested in buying it please let me know
This is not a for sale ad, but you can go ahead and read the pinned comment.
Dang, I always miss the boat! I would have bought that in a heartbeat but I just came across your channel. Can you disclose what it sold for so I can be more disappointed
I think it was $2000. I hope that helps…
@@DeadDodgeGarage nope that made it worse LOL
If it is indeed $2,000 that it got sold for, let the new owners know I will double their money.
*watches Dodge-less video, hears you say "Fords are weird", unsubscribes* 😆
Nice video. As a Ford lover, I liked it. I'd love to find an old Galaxie or something like it. Sadly, I'll probably find 50 of these around here for half the price of 1 classic Mopar.
Haaahaha. Classic. Yep… this could be had *very* cheaply. And I absolutely think it’s an awesome car.
I like the car, what do they want for it?
What tool did u use there for the electrical stuff and the starter?
Power Probe.. they're awesome.
The Power Probe! I have two or three of them. They are the absolute greatest tool for electrical diagnosis and things like this. They’re not a sponsor, but they should be…
@@rennkafer13 thank you Greetings from Germany
Get a Discount link for us Jamie!
i had a 500 4dr 390 same color in 1970 and ran for several years.
It’s never good when there’s a tube of clear silicone caulk in the back seat 😂
😅
Yep, nylon timing gears, had that issue with my 68 Monaco 440 engine, easy fix. Anytime I am going to work on an engine that has sat for any length of time I always pull the plugs and squirt oil down the cylinder and crank it over with the plugs out to lube the cylinders as well as the rest of the engine, make me cringe to see someone fire up a dry engine. Looks like they didn't change their oil very often, saved money on oil changes while destroying their engine, common practice for many people even to this day.
I don’t bother. Especially when it was running within the last decade. If it’s good, it’s going to run - and will be lubricated quickly thereafter. If it’s not good, no amount of magic juice down the plug holes is going to do much. That’s the theory I operate on, and so far I have had *zero* problems after firing up a long sitting engine without oiling the holes. None. And I’ve revived a lot. But I understand - and by no means am I saying that it’s a bad idea.
I know what you're saying, but I tend to operate on the cautious side, don't know how many adds I've seen on TV about oil that clings to metal parts to protect your engine on startup or claims that 90% of engine wear occurs at startup or the fact that oil degrades with age not to mention contamination from fuel dilution or by products of combustion and any engine that has sat for years with old oil could have pockets eaten out of the bearings by acid, which I have in fact seen, so yea I prefer to error on the side of caution, but hey to each their own. At least we agree one thing, Mopar or no car. Have to say though given no other choice I would take a Ford over a chevy any day of the week. I grew up in the fifties and sixties driving or riding in those old cars and it was a great time to be both alive and a kid, you would go to jail today for doing what we did back then, go it was fun. @@DeadDodgeGarage
The next step is to pump transmission oil and do the compression test and vacuum pull. . Ggood luck.
I did a compression test… the next step is to replace the timing set.
So price on galaxie? And location?
Already gone.
I was with timing chain when I saw the comp gauge. So I do know Ford 390 and 352s and 360s because they were common farm trucks and the fact I was the 7up fleet mechanic in 79. Most times they ran and were parked then when they try to restart they would backfire and blow the chains. Yes nylon gears where used. I have seen them blowen to bits several times. But like you said it's a Ford. On a lighter note I sent Tom money through the cosmos so when it lands I own a 67 rat coronet. Just make sure it runs for me son.
So I heard. It runs fine, as long as there is gas in it. Haha.
@DeadDodgeGarage it will be 9degrees when it gets here so ever tried to start a big block at that temp lol
I love that car that’s one of the only Fords I would drive!