Magnetic Flow Meter Explained | Working Principles

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    ⌚Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:51 - What is a Magnetic Flow Sensor?
    01:46 - The Magic is in the Magnet
    03:09 - Faraday’s Law
    05:19 - Conductive Fluids
    06:41 - Other Considerations for Installation
    09:12 - Summary
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    Magnetic flow sensors are a very commonly used flow meter type that is useful in a wide range of applications and line sizes.
    Accurate and repeatable measurement of flow is a requirement for industrial processes, including feed streams, tank recirculation loops, product transfer lines, and many others.
    In this video, we will
    - Introduce you to the working principles of a magnetic flow sensor,
    - Describe the physical characteristics of a magnetic flow sensor that make it valuable for process control,
    - Describe the ways magnetic flow sensors can be integrated into a measurement and control system.
    Magnetic flow sensors convert the velocity of a flowing fluid into a measurable electrical signal that is proportional to the flow rate.
    Magnetic flowmeters have no moving parts or internal flow path obstructions, so they are easy to calibrate and maintain.
    Because magnetic flow meters are typically specified to be the same size as the upstream and downstream piping, there is virtually no pressure loss through the flow meter, which can be very advantageous for some flow streams, like thick slurries.
    Magnetic Flow sensors are often called mag meters, and we will refer to them using this abbreviation.
    Mag meters are typically full-bore sensors, meaning that the internal flow path is of the same diameter as the upstream and downstream connections.
    This construction eliminates any restriction of the fluid which may alter the flow path or create a pressure drop.
    Fluid passes through the mag meter in a straight line through the bore of the sensor. This regular, cylindrical geometry also allows a constant and directional magnetic field to be established across the diameter of the flow path.
    The magic that creates the flow signal is based in the magnet! The mag meter is surrounded by an iron-core, permanent magnet that creates a magnetic field to be established with lines of magnetic flux which pass vertically through the entire cross-section of the pipe and the flowing fluid.
    This geometry is very important. The flowing fluid will pass through these lines of magnetic flux at a 90-degree angle or perpendicular to the lines of magnetic flux.
    To generate a voltage according to Faraday’s law, we must have a moving conductor.
    The conductivity of liquids is measured in units of micro-Siemens-per-centimeter. Some fluids, such as seawater, have high conductivity, and seawater flow can be measured with a mag meter.
    In addition to seawater, flows of wastewater, and ionic solutions such as acids can easily be measured by magnetic flowmeters.
    When installing a magnetic flow meter in process piping, it is vitally important to follow the manufacturer’s recommendation for grounding.
    The electrical signal produced in a mag meter is a very small DC voltage, and stray voltages along a pipe due to welding equipment or other large electrical loads in the plant.
    Transmitters are always used with mag meters. They convert the small DC voltages generated by the flowing fluid into signals that can be connected to the control system.
    4 to 20 milliamp, Profibus PA, Foundation Fieldbus, and IO-Link transmitter outputs are available.
    When specifying magnetic flowmeters, some important aspects must be considered in addition to the conductivity of the fluid and the need for grounding rings.
    If the fluid is corrosive or abrasive, a compatible liner should be specified. These liners can also be replaced if they become worn, and they do not affect measurement accuracy.
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Комментарии • 75

  • @jeromemorgan4928
    @jeromemorgan4928 Год назад +9

    That is very informative, helpful. I am a operations manager for a mechanical engineering company. I just had this mag valve assembly installed with a valuable client. Utilizing these methods of measuring is critical to any system that transfers abrasive liquid materials.

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад +1

      Thanks fo ryour support, Jerome! We are happy to hear that.

    • @sbuiiipodcast142
      @sbuiiipodcast142 Год назад

      definitely very important theoretical insight

  • @kiranchoudhari4717
    @kiranchoudhari4717 Год назад +2

    I was working in cable plant. And i saw this flowmeter in petroleum Jelly pipe line. As a filling material in cable tube,
    It is a big support by realpars to grow up in Automation field

  • @syufrijal
    @syufrijal Год назад

    Amazing explanation of magnetic flow meter...very helpful

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад

      Thank you so much, we're happy to hear that!

  • @TheDrewbe3
    @TheDrewbe3 Год назад

    About to install a big 12'' magnetic flow meter on a river water intake that will communicate over Ethernet/IP, this video is a good refresher on the working principles behind the meter.

  • @praveenkumarpalanivelu6492
    @praveenkumarpalanivelu6492 Год назад

    Thanks for the video, its very helpful

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад

      Glad to hear that! You're very welcome

  • @IngDzib
    @IngDzib Год назад +1

    I enjoyed this video, so helpful

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @farhannaseer5667
    @farhannaseer5667 Год назад

    Thank you sir. Great video.

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @davebennett5069
    @davebennett5069 Год назад +2

    This is fantastic information. There are so many different flow meter technologies. It would be GREAT to see a video on the various different kinds. Especially those used for gas, since the natural gas industry is growing so fast and expanding into other areas where gas extraction is becoming economical - like landfills and manure digesters.

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад

      Thanks for your support, Dave! I will happily forward your suggestion to our course developers.
      Thanks again for sharing and happy learning!

    • @mohangraj2445
      @mohangraj2445 11 месяцев назад

      @@realpars Need to design Electro magnetic flow I need some support

    • @maxwellmakamba5112
      @maxwellmakamba5112 3 месяца назад

      Can I calibrate using a prover tank

  • @JKTCGMV13
    @JKTCGMV13 Год назад

    Love you guys and I love magnets

  • @mahdikazemi2388
    @mahdikazemi2388 Год назад

    Nice job. well done.

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад

      Thank you very much, Mahdi!

  • @InstrumentCalibration
    @InstrumentCalibration Год назад

    Great Graphics for the video

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад +1

      Glad you like them!

  • @kiranchoudhari4717
    @kiranchoudhari4717 Год назад

    Excellent 💯💯💯 realpars

  • @akaikangaroo
    @akaikangaroo 2 месяца назад

    As far as I know those flow meters actually use coils instead of permanent magnets, because coils make it possible to reverse magnetic field which helps to avoid electrolysis on the electrodes

  • @b.b.n._kz
    @b.b.n._kz Год назад +1

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  • @roytutorialchannel2761
    @roytutorialchannel2761 Год назад

    I very like this video my friend

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @tilahuntsegaye7962
    @tilahuntsegaye7962 8 месяцев назад +1

    Good 👍

    • @realpars
      @realpars  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

  • @nipunmadushan5320
    @nipunmadushan5320 Год назад

    Superb

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад

      Thank you very much!

  • @khaledbarca7786
    @khaledbarca7786 Год назад

    Best video

  • @hermannnani7680
    @hermannnani7680 Год назад

    Great video
    I want to understand something about the mag meter : our mag meter is always going on and off when the fluid is passing the pipe. What can be the problem

    • @InstrumentCalibration
      @InstrumentCalibration Год назад

      You can try testing the sensors by manual sensor test just to make sure the sensors are working properly.

  • @MrWaalkman
    @MrWaalkman Год назад

    So I was tasked to figure out why the flowmeters in the paint mix room at Spring Hill, all of the meters (47 of them!) showed "Empty Pipe?". Turns out that you need your material (in this case, paint and solvent) to be conductive. Ours wasn't.
    And the previous guy had them all installed without checking conductivity, so, darn.
    One of the characteristics of a Mag meter or "Wafer Mag" as they are also known, is that they don't have the same requirements as just about every other flowmeter out there in that they don't need the 10x entrance and the 5x exit of straight pipe to settle the flow down to make accurate measurements. This rule means that the pipe leading up to the meter needs to have 10 times the pipe diameter in straight pipe entering into the flowmeter, and 5 times the diameter of the flowmeter in straight pipe exiting the flowmeter. So for a 2" meter you would need 20" leading up to the flowmeter, and 10" exiting the meter (these values are considered as a bare minimum, for complex bends you will need to increase these distances).
    This is all application specific stuff from here on out.
    We didn't have the space, the budget, or time, for redesigning the piping so the flowmeters were pretty inaccurate. Which because of our application was just fine since we really needed to know when things were circulating. The main thing was not introducing "dirt" (or gunk) into the paint that would go on to cause problems with the robots or the product itself. The thermal meters were excellent for this since the interior of the meter is nothing more than a smooth piece of pipe. The old meters had to be hot cleaned with a caustic solution from time to time. These meters certainly did not add to the problem.
    One of the other things that you want to avoid when circulating paint is to reduce the amount of "shear" which degrades the paint leading to a poor paint job. Since the meter was just another piece of pipe in the system, the new meters did not add anything to increase the amount of shear already in the system. They probably had a tiny bit better flow than the Wafer Mags, but it couldn't have been by much. But compared to almost all of the rest of the meters out there, they were vastly superior.

  • @hosamyousef7368
    @hosamyousef7368 Год назад

    GOOD

  • @meeder78
    @meeder78 Год назад +2

    Magmeters usually do not use permanent magnets but rather use a coil to generate a alternating magnetic field.

    • @littlechicago7482
      @littlechicago7482 Год назад +2

      Being involved with mags for over 40 years I've never seen one with permanent magnets

  • @user-oq2cn9ff6z
    @user-oq2cn9ff6z 7 месяцев назад

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    Good

  • @paulrinehart5557
    @paulrinehart5557 Год назад

    I definitely like magmeters over paddle wheel sensors. I never knew that they were dependent on conductivity of the fluid, so thanks for that info.

    • @meeder78
      @meeder78 Год назад +3

      If the conductivity is to low you can't measure anything with it. The modern magmeters can achieve measurements in liquids as low as 1 to 5 uS/cm with certain limitations.
      If it is really low and you need high accuracy than your best option is coriolis mass flow. Otherwise you can also use vortex or ultrasonic flowmeters in liquids with low conductivity.

  • @maxwellmakamba5112
    @maxwellmakamba5112 3 месяца назад

    Can i calibrate an ele tromagnetic floe meter using a prover tank

  • @microflowmeter
    @microflowmeter 10 дней назад

    👍great~~

  • @cck0728
    @cck0728 Год назад

    Good video... Why pressure transmitters are grounded but Temperature transmitter are not grounded?
    Thanks.

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад +1

      The accepted wiring method for all transmitter types is to use a shielded twisted pair cable, with the shield grounded only at one end, usually at the PLC or DCS I/O cabinet.

    • @cck0728
      @cck0728 Год назад

      @@realpars Thanks for your kind clarification.... Keep it up...

  • @robertocardenosa493
    @robertocardenosa493 3 месяца назад

    Can you explain how Faraday's law can lead to that formula at 04:12? I know it as E = -dΦ/dt, and if I understood it properly, the magnetic field B = Φ/A is held constant, and hence E would be zero. What am I missing?

    • @robertocardenosa493
      @robertocardenosa493 3 месяца назад

      Nevermind. I managed to see the light. Hehehe

    • @realpars
      @realpars  3 месяца назад

      Glad to hear that, Roberto! Happy learning

  • @idiotic0tom
    @idiotic0tom Год назад

    Can this measure water flow or does a fluid needs to be ferromagnetic?

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад

      The fluid needs to have a conductivity of greater than 10 us/cm. Distilled or purified water have conductivities less than 10 us/cm. Therefore, a magnetic flow meter is not suitable for these fluids. Tap water typically has greater than 10 us/cm conductivity and can be measured by a magnetic flow meter. Wehn in doubt, look up the conductivity of your liquid stream using an internet search or ask your magnetic flow meter vendor for the data.

  • @cck0728
    @cck0728 Год назад +1

    Excellent video.... What type of flowmeter to be used for DM water or fluids with less than 10 us/cm conductivity?
    Thanks.

    • @MrWaalkman
      @MrWaalkman Год назад +1

      Just about any of the rest. De-Mineralized water shouldn't present any problems with the material that the flowmeter is made of (unlike DI water). Without knowing your application, I can say that ultrasonic is not a good choice, too finicky in my opinion.
      And some that should be okay - depending:
      Thermal meters also present no obstructions, so it makes a good choice for media such as paints that tend to "gunk up" inside the pipe.
      Coriolis is great, but expensive.
      Positive displacement is an option, but will wear over time, making them eventually inaccurate.
      Differential Pressure is the "normal" choice, and would probably work fine for you.
      Vortex should be fine.
      There are other options out there, this is just off of the top of my head.
      The bottom line is that without knowing your application (so what's your Reynolds number anyway?), it is impossible to give you a definitive answer. So contact a flowmeter specialist and have them take a look at your application.

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад +2

      Mr Waalkman gave a good response to this question. I find that vortex flow meters give a good balance of performance, ease of installation, almost zero maintenance, and applicable over a broad range of Reynolds numbers.

    • @cck0728
      @cck0728 Год назад

      @@MrWaalkman Thanks for your such a detailed response.... Appreciate!

    • @MrWaalkman
      @MrWaalkman Год назад

      ​@@cck0728 You're welcome. :)

  • @pearlsimelane9415
    @pearlsimelane9415 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hi what can cause the Totalizer to reverse?

    • @realpars
      @realpars  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you for reaching out with your question. The resolution might vary based on the installation method and setup. I recommend reviewing the installation manual and engineering design specifications for guidance. Alternatively, reaching out to your vendor can provide specific insights into potential issues. Wishing you successful troubleshooting and learning from RealPars!

    • @maxwellmakamba5112
      @maxwellmakamba5112 3 месяца назад

      Can I calibrate these using a prover tank if so please tell me how

  • @dhaneshvnair2304
    @dhaneshvnair2304 Год назад

    Is this suitable for metal pipe?

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад

      Yes, metal pipe is preferred for the installation of magnetic flowmeters.

  • @dyakoazad7766
    @dyakoazad7766 Год назад

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  • @Yash13101994
    @Yash13101994 Год назад

    How can water be the conductor ?
    We need ferromagnetic conductor

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад +1

      Tap water or process water contains minerals and other dissolved solids that are conductive. We just need a fluid with a minimum conductivity in order to use a magnetic flow meter effectively.

  • @mzia854
    @mzia854 7 месяцев назад

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  • @ahmednor5806
    @ahmednor5806 Год назад

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  • @polycmike5052
    @polycmike5052 Год назад

    Could that be also a solution for Ex-Areas?

    • @andreasiracusano488
      @andreasiracusano488 Год назад +2

      sure . there are magmeters also for EX areas

    • @realpars
      @realpars  Год назад +1

      When selecting a flow meter for installation in a hazardous area, you need to ensure that the meter is approved for operation in the specific classification of installation. This may affect which manufacturer/model number you use and the method of installation, including wiring. And yes, there are magnetic flowmeters which are rated for installation in electrically classified areas.

  • @ajaykumarjalagam8870
    @ajaykumarjalagam8870 5 месяцев назад

    What is the difference between DP transmitter and flowmeter?

    • @realpars
      @realpars  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your comment, and topic suggestion! I will go ahead and forward this to our course developers, hopefully we can create a course lesson answering that.