She's almost like a fairy godmother minus the wings!! In my opinion Princess and the Frog has a very awesome and underrated soundtrack and her song is one of the best songs from that movie!!
I think a lot of people love princesses like Cinderella, Belle, Etc. And people forget other princesses like princess and the frog and they become underrated. They need more acknowledgment imo
It's the only Disney film I enjoy the most and I realize now that it is the music in it, Dr. Facilier and Mama Odie are my all time favs. And not to mention that I'm Mexican and am talking about the Spanish version of the film and they still go so hard (harder in my opinion :v).💜
As a Black person and a Louisiana native I would like to say 1. Thanks you for making sure to add that voodoo is a religion, the differences between voodoo and hoodoo and not they are not the evil practices we see in shows and movies and 2. In a Black family there is always an older woman is like Mama Odie and 3. I love the diversity of your channel and the stories you tell. ❤️❤️❤️
Early on in my life, I began to read about cultures. Later I added the culture's religions and philosophies. From 16 to 31 yo I had reviewed over 1000 cultures and their religions/philosophies. This was all before an internet. I was not really looking for the differences; but rather, the similarities. What is common across cultures, I reasoned must be necessary for human development. It is nice you can verify this culture since you grew up in it. This episode was enjoyable so I thank Jon and his researcher. I thank you for assuring us Jon got it right.
@@barbarahouk1983 did you do this at a university level? If so, I’d be exceedingly curious where you studied as I’m investigating where I should get my masters for cross-cultural mythology. Appreciate all of your comments to Jon’s videos
Fun Fact: New Orleans Native here (7th generation) Marie laveaus bones are not even in her tomb. Her daughter Marie Laveau II took her mothers bones after she was buried in the tomb because townspeople kept trying to break into her tomb and steal them for good luck. That tomb is completely empty. For anyone who cares 🤷🏻♂️
is it really stole if it her Family Member's remains, and other people kept on trying to break into her Tombstone and Steal her Remains instead of letting her R.I.P?
@@chrisv5472 yes I worded that poorly, I’m glad she took her mothers bones. I should not have used the word “steal” that’s just how they have it listed in the archives but we all know why that is, it was 1800s so yeah. I apologize for my poor word usage.
I read up on Marie Leveau as a bored middle school kid (I was reading everything mythology, this included voodoo/hoodoo) and have forever felt that she hasn't gotten enough recognition.
I’m with you in that often her memory is clouded by other ppl’s opinions of her practice rather than informed by her position as an icon and pillar of the community.
So underrated and under appreciated 😫 Not only was she a super interesting woman, but she helped anyone that came to her for help regardless of their race in a super rationally tense time putting it very lightly
dr. Facilier had Hoodoo as well. He even mentioned it in his song 'I've got Voodoo, I've got Hoodoo, I've got things I've ain't even tried' (and I've got friends on the other side) also I am going to be nit-picky but those are not flamingos. they are more likely to be roseate spoonbills. fun fact (roseate) spoonbills are said to mean 'the importance of being courageous in all situations and take responsibility for your actions.' seems somewhat fitting to the story.
Thank you for this. As a New Orleans native , I appreciate you explaining what hoodoo and voodoo is. I'm sick and tired of this distorted view on voodoo due to Hollywood media
It was done for protection and good intentions. Getting into the spiritual is a lot like getting into credit card debit excepted instead of the consequences of not paying being going to jail having house and car taken and wage garnished the effects of renegading on a deal with a bad spirit can be horrible. Daemons isn't just horn goated men, it means all foreign spirits that don't bow down to יהוה they can be good or bad. And lets face it, a lot of white people are too curious for their own good, especially in the spiritually.
I liked learning about Marie Laveau. I didn't know that mama Odie was pretty much based off of her. I honestly didn't know she was real either. I thought she was made up for AHS Coven (Angela Bassett's Marie Laveau was amazing btw), but it's really awesome to see that she was real and a cool voodoo Queen
As a New Orleans native I can assure you Marie Laveau is very real though her life and abilities have been mythologised to a certain extent over the nearly century and a half since her death, as she has remained a prominent figure in New Orleans folklore with locals and tourists alike visiting her grave and asking for favors from the Voodoo Queen though writing on the tomb is now illegal and carries a heft fine if you try. The reason they included her in AHS Coven is probably because it would almost be a sin to have a show that focuses on witches and voodoo practioners, real or ficional, in New Orleans and not included Marie Laveau in some way shape or form as she is undoubtedly the most famous of them all
Marie sounds pretty smart. She sounds kinda like a proto psychologist or therapist rather than a scammer. Using peoples belief in magic and stuff to give them good life advice is not a terrible way to go about it. I like her.
Voodoo is such a fascinating topic it’s so detailed and powerful shit you don’t mess with. The origins of voodoo and how it is practiced is so interesting to learn thanks hon for this great video!
I would just like to say that it’s “Huduu ”magick that’s practiced in southern America. “Vuduu” is strictly a west African religion❤️ so mamma Odde is a huduu woman. And “juju” basically just means karma
Yes vuduu is the west African religion while Voodoo is a Caribbean derived version of vuduu with the mix of catholicism. Hoodoo does come from west and central Africa as well
I love the idea of her being his mom and I wish they went with it. Since the film is about "you're your daddy's daughter, what he had in him you got in you" it would have been cool to see the other side where blood only goes so far and our choices also make us who we are too. He would have been his momma's son so he would have had the ability to have been more like her but his own selfish choices made him who he became in the end. I am actually reading a book called "Old Style Conjure Hoodoo, Rootwork, & Folk Magic" by Starr Casas and it is pretty interesting and makes sense with Momma Odie (and I got the book from a place called Oddities so I'm just all around amused)
Hi, Jon. Just wanted to help you re-identify your “flamingos”, these are Roseate Spoonbills. Which are native in Florida, (some parts of) Texas, and Louisiana. Along with some parts of South America. Thanks!
I grew up in the romani community and was taught how to read tea leaves , tarot , angel cards and palms and most of the time the cards give me an opening to help as a counselor. I always start with laying out my cards and go through what they say and then try to help the person figure out a game plan for how to heal past wounds or prepare for future hardship. And before you call me a charlatan I don't charge and do it solely to try to help people through their struggles so I can do my part in making the world a little easier for the people who ask for my help.
I'd like to think that Mama Odie is Dr. Facilier's mother. If Disney ever makes "reimagined" version of The Princess And The Frog", I'd like to see the relationship between Mama Odie and Dr. Facilier explored. I grew up watching Jackie Moms Mabley on TV shows, like The Ed Sullivan Show and The Smothers Brothers. Mama Odie definitely has Moms' quick wit, and sass. Sometime in the future, I'd like to see a video about the inspiration for Grandmother Willow from Disney's Pocohantas. Thank you again Jon. Over the past three years your videos have entertained me and inspired me. As a Boomer who grew up on Disney and heard tons of fairy tales and nursery rhymes, your channel truly takes me back to my childhood!
I don’t know. Dr. Facilier seems like a guy who want to take short cuts to power instead of going the slow and steady rout. I guess he could be Mams Odie’s kid, but I guess I think any child she had would have far too much sense than to try what Facilier did. Maybe he was more someone who went to her to study, but thought she taught him too slowly or something would be better?
These episodes are so much fun. Back in high school I dug into a whole lot of literature for Haitian vodou, and I was impressed by how well Disney portrayed what I'd learned about. There's differences, of course, as Haiti and the states are different places with different people and cultures all affecting each other, but what I studied up on was the origin of what this movie covers, so there was still a lot of parallels I could make. I believe you already touched on the Nibo family (family of dieties), but I'd love a deep dive into their family dynamics. For my stories, I specifically studied Guede Nibo, as something of a patron saint to orphans and children lacking guidance (as well as travelers, and more). I think you mentioned the traveling aspect of specifically Guede in your last episode, and that crossroads are places he's physically attached to. Note: I'm at the beginning of the episode, and those are Rosette Spoonbills, not Flamingos. Rosette Spoonbills are native up the Everglades, and I believe endangered.
Those were actually two different graves. The real one (the first one) and the false one(the second picture), I learned about them on a tour back in 2016.
This jarred my memory from a favourite book series, The Heroes of Olympus. Hazel Lavesque's mom, Marie Lavesque went by the name of Queen Marie also dabbling in voodo, also in New Orleans. In this specific instance the magic let her talk to Hades himself. Just something interesting
If you want to know a bit more about Marie Laveau (if you don't mind a little evil twist to her), as well as inspiration for Mama Odie, Country singer Bobby Bare made a funny song about her. I wonder how many parallels you can point out
Yasssss I've been waiting 🤧😭😭😭I missed you Edit: in Jamaica voodoo is called Obeah and ghosts are called Duppy famous stories you've probably heard is the story of the rolling calf it's pretty scary
Thank you so much for such a clear and concise distinction between Voudou and HooDoo!!!! As a practitioner it means a lot to me. Loved your video on Dr. Facilier too 🕯🖤🍃✨
I've been following you for several years now. And I have e to say I love the way you objectively speak on topics of other cultures without demonizing or down playing them. It's not common to see. The research is always thorough and, mostly, accurate. While being entertaining and fun. This is why I will continue to follow you and your content. Thank you!
Solo dude, thank you for for the multicultural content. You handle all the content with the same reverence and respect, regardless of culture. The world needs more John Solos.
Fascinating as always, though I got to admit that when I heard you say the name Damballa my head went straight to the Child's Play movies, as that's the name Chucky would call as part of his body swap chant.
I’ve always been fascinated with voodoo and hoodoo. Southern lore, particularly Louisiana lore capture my imagination the most. Someday I’m hoping to make the peregrination there.
Once in a blue moon I comment on Messed up origins. Most times if I'm silent it means I enjoyed the content. If I speak up it means something about the content affected me extremely negatively or positively. In this case it's an extreme positive! I am so happy someone knows moms Mabley! Thank you for giving this very underrated comedian who influenced so many so proper recognition. I did not know she was one of the inspirations for the characters but I can see it now. I was lucky enough to pick up one of her records when I was training in Georgia about 3 years ago. The woman was a comedic genius, the first black woman to headline carnage hall and did not get the recognition she deserved. Well done Mr Solo!
Thank you for this! My youngest son absolutely LOVES all this and it is one of the few things that I can continue to have in common with my 17 year old. That in an of itself could use a Hoodoo practitioner to help it along.
Great video! I enjoy learning more lore through your deep dives. Also thanks for the trade on Disney Topps the other day. I was super surprised to see you pop up as someone who had what i was after. ^_^
Mama Odie's more than a Voodoo Queen, she the life coach the whole world needs. "Y'all ain't got the sense you was born with" us a line so heavy with truth, it makes you rethink everything.
Thank you for 2:14 I really do believe that a lot of people need to learn that cuz some people still don't know the truth so I really do appreciate you sharing that tidbit. Love your show.
Hoodoo is HEAVILY based with communicating/working with ancestors and the spirits in herbs and nature. It’s not closed but if you’re of African decent and your roots are from the US then it’s in you. Legend said that Marie’s age and death date constantly changed because people swore they saw her throughout the city… could’ve been her daughters 🤷🏾♀️Shout out to her beautiful and very real energy… ion think she’s buried there neither but it’s nice to visit. Thank you Jon 💜
@@jaxthewolf4572 I said in the initial comment that if you are indigenous and rooted to this part of the americas and your ancestors endured chattel slavery, and you are melanated then you are indeed indoctrinated into the practice. You do not need to be initiated into hoodoo. The term hoodoo in itself is drenched in colonialism. Real practitioners call it folk magic, conjure, root or nothing at all…. It’s safe to find an elder to teach you, but if you connect with your ancestors that’s a big chunk of the practice.
I am from New Orleans. The tomb of Marie Laveau is uncertain. She owned 3 in total and they house over 80 bodies. It was part of her charity work. This will make sense if one looks into traditional burials in NOLA. Her tomb is one of the 3 most desecrated Graves in North America. Though the space is guarded, some still try to vandalise it. Its more common for ppl to leave prayer tokens at the foot of her grave as that isn't punished. If your uncertain this is true, take a tour of Cemetery #1 (what locals call it) yourself. It's educational and fun.
If you’re looking for another piece of media that takes inspiration from Voodoo, then check out the musical Once on this Island! There are four gods in it that are either heavily influenced or are reinterpretation of some of the loa. It could be another avenue or research if you end up liking it and want to learn more about the loa referenced in it!
For "Disney Explained" I've been patiently waiting for Jon to do "Robin Hood" and "The Sword in the Stone." They are two of my favorites, and I am really interested in their original stories.
honestly glad i did religious education in high school, most things you said in the video i learned in class and it felt so refreshing hearing it again.
Also voodoo is a closed practice you would have to be let in to do anything in that area. Hoodoo not so much you kinda just need to be black from what I know because black slaves used hoodoo a lot. I would do research on that though.
I finally got a chance to watch this & thinking it over I find it interesting how when I used to Watch American Horror Story the Season called The Coven had a character named Marie Laveau played by Angela Bassett & in the show she was also a hair dresser I never knew that was actually a thing until watching this that Marie Laveau actually was a hair dresser in her time as well.
Fantastic detailed ! Will say one thing that I haven’t seen mentioned: the pink birds in Mama Odie’s song are spoonbills, not flamingo, hence the using the birds to mine scooping in “Dig a Little Deeper “
Just one correction. The pink birds dancing during Mama Odie’s song are not flamingos. They are spoonbills, which are common in the swamps of the southern US. You can tell by the shape of their bills, which is quite different than a flamingo.
I actually came to learn that Madame Laveu has her own urban legend surrounding how multiple people over the years have claimed to be her, some of them being multiples in the same time period. Theories range from her reincarnation in other bodies to the women just using her name to hide who they really are but at the same time making sure nobody forgets who SHE was. American horror story put their own twist on that source material to show how important she has been and still is to black people regardless of where they are from or even if they believe in Voodoo or not.
I was watching The Originals the other day and Papa Tundae (?) made an appearance. I was glad I’d watched your other princess and the frog video so I knew some of his back story.
There's a great song about her called "The Witch Queen Of New Orleans," by Redbone (the same band who sing, "Come And Get Your Love," of "Guardians Of The Galaxy" fame)
Remember folks, the tradition is 3 x’s. The marking of xxx is said to bring good luck according to her traditions and a few of the Rootworkers i’ve spent time with
That said as a New Orleans Native it is has been illegal to write on the tomb since it was restored in 2014 and anyone caught trying will face a hefty fine. As a witch myself I recommend visualizing the x's or tracing them with your finger rather than actually drawing them as a way of avoid getting in trouble while still being able to complete the ritual and ask for your wish
Facilia also has hoodoo he even mentions it in his song where he says “I’ve got voodoo I’ve got hoodoo I’ve got things I haven’t even tried and I’ve got friends on the other side”
I LOVE New Orleans!!! I've been there twice, and visited St. Louis #1. The first time, people had put x's all over it, but the 2nd time (in 2016) her crypt is now fenced off, and repainted. People can still pay their respects, but at a short distance.
Mama Odie is my favorite character in this movie! Voodoo is a beautiful religion that doesn’t get the recognition it deserves. Hoodoo is very personal and reflects each persons spirit.
Marie Leveau, New Orleans, Voodoo. Hearing these only one game comes to mind: Gabriel Knight (GK) and the Sins of the Fathers. Apart from the disney movie, GK was also inspired by these historical people and events. It is awesome to see what the true history behind all these was.
Can you do an episode about The Demon Girls of Ujae? I found the story about them interesting and found out about them whilst researching about the bikini atoll, more specifically about the relocation part (Just search up said thing online or check your email John Solo)
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She's almost like a fairy godmother minus the wings!! In my opinion Princess and the Frog has a very awesome and underrated soundtrack and her song is one of the best songs from that movie!!
I think a lot of people love princesses like Cinderella, Belle, Etc. And people forget other princesses like princess and the frog and they become underrated. They need more acknowledgment imo
Yes, her song is awesome
It's the only Disney film I enjoy the most and I realize now that it is the music in it, Dr. Facilier and Mama Odie are my all time favs. And not to mention that I'm Mexican and am talking about the Spanish version of the film and they still go so hard (harder in my opinion :v).💜
I mean Cinderellas fairy godmother didn’t have wings
I absolutely love princess and the frog! It’s probably one of my very favorites, and Mama Odie’s song is my favorite in the whole soundtrack! 💛
As a Black person and a Louisiana native I would like to say 1. Thanks you for making sure to add that voodoo is a religion, the differences between voodoo and hoodoo and not they are not the evil practices we see in shows and movies and 2. In a Black family there is always an older woman is like Mama Odie and 3. I love the diversity of your channel and the stories you tell. ❤️❤️❤️
ALL OF THIS! My momma is very much like her. I know EXACTLY what you mean!
My great grandma is like her too. She spoke creole French
Early on in my life, I began to read about cultures. Later I added the culture's religions and philosophies. From 16 to 31 yo I had reviewed over 1000 cultures and their religions/philosophies. This was all before an internet. I was not really looking for the differences; but rather, the similarities. What is common across cultures, I reasoned must be necessary for human development.
It is nice you can verify this culture since you grew up in it. This episode was enjoyable so I thank Jon and his researcher. I thank you for assuring us Jon got it right.
@@barbarahouk1983 did you do this at a university level? If so, I’d be exceedingly curious where you studied as I’m investigating where I should get my masters for cross-cultural mythology. Appreciate all of your comments to Jon’s videos
@@jessicaclakley3691 UNLV and UNR had really indepth cross cultural studies and UNR offers them online if you are interested.
Fun Fact: New Orleans Native here (7th generation) Marie laveaus bones are not even in her tomb. Her daughter Marie Laveau II took her mothers bones after she was buried in the tomb because townspeople kept trying to break into her tomb and steal them for good luck. That tomb is completely empty.
For anyone who cares 🤷🏻♂️
is it really stole if it her Family Member's remains, and other people kept on trying to break into her Tombstone and Steal her Remains instead of letting her R.I.P?
@@stefhonsmith6547 yes, you can go to the local library here in New Orleans and read about it.
@@CarloBenevissi think they mean its not stealing its her daughter protecting her mothers remains.
@@chrisv5472 yes I worded that poorly, I’m glad she took her mothers bones. I should not have used the word “steal” that’s just how they have it listed in the archives but we all know why that is, it was 1800s so yeah. I apologize for my poor word usage.
@@chrisv5472 I have edited this :)
As a New Orleanian, I'm always happy to see when people do their research and report the stories correctly. Thanks Jon!
Happy late St. John's Eve
I read up on Marie Leveau as a bored middle school kid (I was reading everything mythology, this included voodoo/hoodoo) and have forever felt that she hasn't gotten enough recognition.
I agree with you
I’m with you in that often her memory is clouded by other ppl’s opinions of her practice rather than informed by her position as an icon and pillar of the community.
So underrated and under appreciated 😫 Not only was she a super interesting woman, but she helped anyone that came to her for help regardless of their race in a super rationally tense time putting it very lightly
dr. Facilier had Hoodoo as well. He even mentioned it in his song 'I've got Voodoo, I've got Hoodoo, I've got things I've ain't even tried' (and I've got friends on the other side) also I am going to be nit-picky but those are not flamingos. they are more likely to be roseate spoonbills. fun fact (roseate) spoonbills are said to mean 'the importance of being courageous in all situations and take responsibility for your actions.' seems somewhat fitting to the story.
Thank you for this. As a New Orleans native , I appreciate you explaining what hoodoo and voodoo is. I'm sick and tired of this distorted view on voodoo due to Hollywood media
Same on all accounts
Hollywood ruin the reputation of everything. Black people stereotypes, Witches,etc.
voodoo is evil
You have no problem. If I don't want it then I'm just
@@joshi7434 no u
I'm so glad he did this. I'm Haitian and we do voodoo. Every time someone hear, they think of evil when voodoo is mentioned 🙄
I did once too. To be honest American media has also portrayed it that way too
I know right? As a New Orleans native, I hate when the media portrays voodoo as some evil ritual or magic 🎉
Haitian American here who has always been called to learn and practice my Haitian Ancestor’s religion/spirituality!🇭🇹💜
@@mapetidyeso there’s good and bad voodoo right?
It was done for protection and good intentions. Getting into the spiritual is a lot like getting into credit card debit excepted instead of the consequences of not paying being going to jail having house and car taken and wage garnished the effects of renegading on a deal with a bad spirit can be horrible. Daemons isn't just horn goated men, it means all foreign spirits that don't bow down to יהוה they can be good or bad. And lets face it, a lot of white people are too curious for their own good, especially in the spiritually.
I liked learning about Marie Laveau. I didn't know that mama Odie was pretty much based off of her. I honestly didn't know she was real either. I thought she was made up for AHS Coven (Angela Bassett's Marie Laveau was amazing btw), but it's really awesome to see that she was real and a cool voodoo Queen
As a New Orleans native I can assure you Marie Laveau is very real though her life and abilities have been mythologised to a certain extent over the nearly century and a half since her death, as she has remained a prominent figure in New Orleans folklore with locals and tourists alike visiting her grave and asking for favors from the Voodoo Queen though writing on the tomb is now illegal and carries a heft fine if you try. The reason they included her in AHS Coven is probably because it would almost be a sin to have a show that focuses on witches and voodoo practioners, real or ficional, in New Orleans and not included Marie Laveau in some way shape or form as she is undoubtedly the most famous of them all
Marie sounds pretty smart. She sounds kinda like a proto psychologist or therapist rather than a scammer. Using peoples belief in magic and stuff to give them good life advice is not a terrible way to go about it. I like her.
Voodoo is such a fascinating topic it’s so detailed and powerful shit you don’t mess with. The origins of voodoo and how it is practiced is so interesting to learn thanks hon for this great video!
Voodoo is also the origins of the zombie mythos
I would just like to say that it’s “Huduu ”magick that’s practiced in southern America. “Vuduu” is strictly a west African religion❤️ so mamma Odde is a huduu woman. And “juju” basically just means karma
Yes vuduu is the west African religion while Voodoo is a Caribbean derived version of vuduu with the mix of catholicism. Hoodoo does come from west and central Africa as well
juju might just be karma in NOLA. But in W. Africa, it is essentially a charmed object used in vuduu.
Juju means magic not karma ...juju are charms etc in West Africa...biko get your facts rights
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I love the idea of her being his mom and I wish they went with it. Since the film is about "you're your daddy's daughter, what he had in him you got in you" it would have been cool to see the other side where blood only goes so far and our choices also make us who we are too. He would have been his momma's son so he would have had the ability to have been more like her but his own selfish choices made him who he became in the end.
I am actually reading a book called "Old Style Conjure Hoodoo, Rootwork, & Folk Magic" by Starr Casas and it is pretty interesting and makes sense with Momma Odie (and I got the book from a place called Oddities so I'm just all around amused)
Hi, Jon.
Just wanted to help you re-identify your “flamingos”, these are Roseate Spoonbills. Which are native in Florida, (some parts of) Texas, and Louisiana. Along with some parts of South America. Thanks!
Glad I'm not the only person that felt the need to let him know about the beautiful Roseate Spoonbills.
@@lokizmom9843 Yay!
I came here to say that. Glad there is a community of people knowledgeable on these birds.
Marie laveau was also featured in the American horror story but they did theirs with a twist who was portrayed by Angela Bassett
I grew up in the romani community and was taught how to read tea leaves , tarot , angel cards and palms and most of the time the cards give me an opening to help as a counselor. I always start with laying out my cards and go through what they say and then try to help the person figure out a game plan for how to heal past wounds or prepare for future hardship. And before you call me a charlatan I don't charge and do it solely to try to help people through their struggles so I can do my part in making the world a little easier for the people who ask for my help.
I'd like to think that Mama Odie is Dr. Facilier's mother.
If Disney ever makes "reimagined" version of The Princess And The Frog", I'd like to see the relationship between Mama Odie and Dr. Facilier explored.
I grew up watching Jackie Moms Mabley on TV shows, like The Ed Sullivan Show and The Smothers Brothers. Mama Odie definitely has Moms' quick wit, and sass.
Sometime in the future, I'd like to see a video about the inspiration for Grandmother Willow from Disney's Pocohantas.
Thank you again Jon. Over the past three years your videos have entertained me and inspired me.
As a Boomer who grew up on Disney and heard tons of fairy tales and nursery rhymes, your channel truly takes me back to my childhood!
I don’t know. Dr. Facilier seems like a guy who want to take short cuts to power instead of going the slow and steady rout. I guess he could be Mams Odie’s kid, but I guess I think any child she had would have far too much sense than to try what Facilier did. Maybe he was more someone who went to her to study, but thought she taught him too slowly or something would be better?
These episodes are so much fun. Back in high school I dug into a whole lot of literature for Haitian vodou, and I was impressed by how well Disney portrayed what I'd learned about. There's differences, of course, as Haiti and the states are different places with different people and cultures all affecting each other, but what I studied up on was the origin of what this movie covers, so there was still a lot of parallels I could make.
I believe you already touched on the Nibo family (family of dieties), but I'd love a deep dive into their family dynamics. For my stories, I specifically studied Guede Nibo, as something of a patron saint to orphans and children lacking guidance (as well as travelers, and more). I think you mentioned the traveling aspect of specifically Guede in your last episode, and that crossroads are places he's physically attached to.
Note: I'm at the beginning of the episode, and those are Rosette Spoonbills, not Flamingos. Rosette Spoonbills are native up the Everglades, and I believe endangered.
Those were actually two different graves. The real one (the first one) and the false one(the second picture), I learned about them on a tour back in 2016.
Hoodoo is also a closed practice for only AA.
Love the diversity and range on this channel. Great work as always!
As black woman born and raised here in New Orleans, I'm glad to see this.
I love the diversity of these stories❤️
This jarred my memory from a favourite book series, The Heroes of Olympus. Hazel Lavesque's mom, Marie Lavesque went by the name of Queen Marie also dabbling in voodo, also in New Orleans. In this specific instance the magic let her talk to Hades himself. Just something interesting
If you want to know a bit more about Marie Laveau (if you don't mind a little evil twist to her), as well as inspiration for Mama Odie, Country singer Bobby Bare made a funny song about her. I wonder how many parallels you can point out
Another man done gone 😋
Yasssss I've been waiting 🤧😭😭😭I missed you
Edit: in Jamaica voodoo is called Obeah and ghosts are called Duppy famous stories you've probably heard is the story of the rolling calf it's pretty scary
Fammmm the rolling calf is terrifying
I thought obeah was the darker side of that religion, like the difference between worshiping Jesus vs. The devil
@@jadamaynard-chung3046 maah tell uh
We don’t have voodoo obeah comes from akom the Ghanaian tradition not voodoo not the same spirits or systems at all.
@@pacificcoastpiper3949no obeah is neutral
Thank you so much for such a clear and concise distinction between Voudou and HooDoo!!!! As a practitioner it means a lot to me. Loved your video on Dr. Facilier too 🕯🖤🍃✨
I've been following you for several years now. And I have e to say I love the way you objectively speak on topics of other cultures without demonizing or down playing them. It's not common to see. The research is always thorough and, mostly, accurate. While being entertaining and fun. This is why I will continue to follow you and your content. Thank you!
Love that you included Mom's Mabely in this ...she is an icon...Well done.
Solo dude, thank you for for the multicultural content. You handle all the content with the same reverence and respect, regardless of culture. The world needs more John Solos.
Excellent, I like a helping out of Voodoo with its unfortunate stigma and misunderstandings/appropriations. Thanks Solo
Fascinating as always, though I got to admit that when I heard you say the name Damballa my head went straight to the Child's Play movies, as that's the name Chucky would call as part of his body swap chant.
Maybe Facilier trained the guy who trained Charles.
I’ve always been fascinated with voodoo and hoodoo. Southern lore, particularly Louisiana lore capture my imagination the most. Someday I’m hoping to make the peregrination there.
It's not just Louisiana lore.
i was waiting for another princess and the frog messes up origin
Once in a blue moon I comment on Messed up origins. Most times if I'm silent it means I enjoyed the content. If I speak up it means something about the content affected me extremely negatively or positively. In this case it's an extreme positive! I am so happy someone knows moms Mabley! Thank you for giving this very underrated comedian who influenced so many so proper recognition. I did not know she was one of the inspirations for the characters but I can see it now. I was lucky enough to pick up one of her records when I was training in Georgia about 3 years ago. The woman was a comedic genius, the first black woman to headline carnage hall and did not get the recognition she deserved. Well done Mr Solo!
Thank you for this! My youngest son absolutely LOVES all this and it is one of the few things that I can continue to have in common with my 17 year old. That in an of itself could use a Hoodoo practitioner to help it along.
Great video! I enjoy learning more lore through your deep dives. Also thanks for the trade on Disney Topps the other day. I was super surprised to see you pop up as someone who had what i was after. ^_^
Mama Odie's more than a Voodoo Queen, she the life coach the whole world needs. "Y'all ain't got the sense you was born with" us a line so heavy with truth, it makes you rethink everything.
Thank you for 2:14 I really do believe that a lot of people need to learn that cuz some people still don't know the truth so I really do appreciate you sharing that tidbit. Love your show.
Every southern black person has a relative that acts exactly like Mama Odie (perhaps without the hoodoo though depending on where you hail from)
Hoodoo is HEAVILY based with communicating/working with ancestors and the spirits in herbs and nature. It’s not closed but if you’re of African decent and your roots are from the US then it’s in you.
Legend said that Marie’s age and death date constantly changed because people swore they saw her throughout the city… could’ve been her daughters 🤷🏾♀️Shout out to her beautiful and very real energy… ion think she’s buried there neither but it’s nice to visit. Thank you Jon 💜
No it's closed
@@jaxthewolf4572 I said in the initial comment that if you are indigenous and rooted to this part of the americas and your ancestors endured chattel slavery, and you are melanated then you are indeed indoctrinated into the practice. You do not need to be initiated into hoodoo. The term hoodoo in itself is drenched in colonialism. Real practitioners call it folk magic, conjure, root or nothing at all…. It’s safe to find an elder to teach you, but if you connect with your ancestors that’s a big chunk of the practice.
I am from New Orleans. The tomb of Marie Laveau is uncertain. She owned 3 in total and they house over 80 bodies. It was part of her charity work. This will make sense if one looks into traditional burials in NOLA. Her tomb is one of the 3 most desecrated Graves in North America. Though the space is guarded, some still try to vandalise it. Its more common for ppl to leave prayer tokens at the foot of her grave as that isn't punished. If your uncertain this is true, take a tour of Cemetery #1 (what locals call it) yourself. It's educational and fun.
Thank you! Ive been to Marie's grave and visited her home at St. Anne in the french quarter. Well that is how the story goes lol.
I love Marie Laveau, Colleen Salley, Loko, Dymbala, Moms Mabley, and Leah Chase finally getting recognition!!
I believe she did give an offering....when she danced and sang... ideally praise.
😭 my jaw dropped when you mentioned marie, when she was brought up in american horror story she was my favorite character in the whole season lol
Another great storytelling session Jon! I feel extremely entertained...thank you!
Wow this is awesome! I barely see RUclipsrs touch on Marie Laveau. Love your videos!! 💕
All my years of watching supernatural have prepared me for this episode
This is so on time. Thanks 😊
Glad we got more updates Mr Solo!
Worth the wait! Another great video!!!
I've never been this early, but I live for these videos, thank you so much Jon!❤️
Mama ode: how do we turn them human?
Voodoo Sprites:GUMBO I NEED GUMBO AS SACRIFICE
mama ode: fin
Yo Jon you should do The Wizard of Oz or Gulliver’s travels for the next messed up origin
If you’re looking for another piece of media that takes inspiration from Voodoo, then check out the musical Once on this Island! There are four gods in it that are either heavily influenced or are reinterpretation of some of the loa. It could be another avenue or research if you end up liking it and want to learn more about the loa referenced in it!
I like to think that Mama Odie was Faciliar's mentor until they had a falling out.
For "Disney Explained" I've been patiently waiting for Jon to do "Robin Hood" and "The Sword in the Stone." They are two of my favorites, and I am really interested in their original stories.
Hey, I suggested this after seeing the video about Dr. Facilier.
Thank you Jon!
honestly glad i did religious education in high school, most things you said in the video i learned in class and it felt so refreshing hearing it again.
14:25 - 14:25 I CERTAINLY HOPE SO!!!!!
Also voodoo is a closed practice you would have to be let in to do anything in that area. Hoodoo not so much you kinda just need to be black from what I know because black slaves used hoodoo a lot. I would do research on that though.
2 hours ago I was wondering when you were going to post. Days officially made!
I finally got a chance to watch this & thinking it over I find it interesting how when I used to Watch American Horror Story the Season called The Coven had a character named Marie Laveau played by Angela Bassett & in the show she was also a hair dresser I never knew that was actually a thing until watching this that Marie Laveau actually was a hair dresser in her time as well.
Fantastic detailed ! Will say one thing that I haven’t seen mentioned: the pink birds in Mama Odie’s song are spoonbills, not flamingo, hence the using the birds to mine scooping in “Dig a Little Deeper “
Great vid Jon. I was born in New Orleans and I always love to hear about its rich culture and history :).
I love your videos! Keep it up friend!
Yo jon solo love ur stuff bro!!!!
You been wandering so much I hope things have been going well for you, your wife, and your puppers
Just one correction. The pink birds dancing during Mama Odie’s song are not flamingos. They are spoonbills, which are common in the swamps of the southern US. You can tell by the shape of their bills, which is quite different than a flamingo.
Mama Odie is one of my favorite characters in the movie. She's right up there with Raymond, who likes to be called Ray.
I'd love to see the origin of Dracula
Those birds are not flamingos, they are rosy spoonbills.
It’s funny to me that chucky used damballa’s power for his soul transfer
First! Princess and the frog is one of my favorite movies great video keep up the good work
Not first lmao
@@JustAStump lol ya according to my phone I was first 😂
I’m glad to finally see another video from you!
THANK YOU for clearing the misconceptions of voodoo!!
You are not a disappointment johnny lol Your content is amazing. It’s wonderful to see the history behind these iconic movies 🍿
Hi Jon solo. I am a fan of all your videos and I am writing to tell you to keep up the good work.
I can just picture an animated prequel movie about mama Odie ✨
yes! finally, princess and the frog is one of my favourites and mama oldie is one of my fav characters!! ❤
I would love to see a series on the deities and influence of the voodoo religion. Maybe something similar to the series on greek gods.
Awesome beautiful video
I WAS JUST LISTENING TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER-
"A whole group of flamingos"
Those are *spoonbills* Getcher shit right
xD
I actually came to learn that Madame Laveu has her own urban legend surrounding how multiple people over the years have claimed to be her, some of them being multiples in the same time period. Theories range from her reincarnation in other bodies to the women just using her name to hide who they really are but at the same time making sure nobody forgets who SHE was. American horror story put their own twist on that source material to show how important she has been and still is to black people regardless of where they are from or even if they believe in Voodoo or not.
I learned more from these two videos, than I did on tours in NOLA.
I was watching The Originals the other day and Papa Tundae (?) made an appearance. I was glad I’d watched your other princess and the frog video so I knew some of his back story.
Thank you Jon, for your explanations of the movies and stories. I always like watching and listening to them.🐾🌸
Just got back from New Orleans and had a tour that gave us the history of voodoo and hoodoo.
There's a great song about her called "The Witch Queen Of New Orleans," by Redbone (the same band who sing, "Come And Get Your Love," of "Guardians Of The Galaxy" fame)
Remember folks, the tradition is 3 x’s. The marking of xxx is said to bring good luck according to her traditions and a few of the Rootworkers i’ve spent time with
That said as a New Orleans Native it is has been illegal to write on the tomb since it was restored in 2014 and anyone caught trying will face a hefty fine. As a witch myself I recommend visualizing the x's or tracing them with your finger rather than actually drawing them as a way of avoid getting in trouble while still being able to complete the ritual and ask for your wish
Your videos are always great
i feel like doing that to any grave is asking for bad karma up the arse
this is one of my favorite videos you've ever done! it was soo accurate and you really did your best explaining everything
Facilia also has hoodoo he even mentions it in his song where he says
“I’ve got voodoo I’ve got hoodoo I’ve got things I haven’t even tried and I’ve got friends on the other side”
I LOVE New Orleans!!! I've been there twice, and visited St. Louis #1. The first time, people had put x's all over it, but the 2nd time (in 2016) her crypt is now fenced off, and repainted. People can still pay their respects, but at a short distance.
Mama Odie is my favorite character in this movie! Voodoo is a beautiful religion that doesn’t get the recognition it deserves. Hoodoo is very personal and reflects each persons spirit.
Marie Leveau, New Orleans, Voodoo. Hearing these only one game comes to mind: Gabriel Knight (GK) and the Sins of the Fathers.
Apart from the disney movie, GK was also inspired by these historical people and events. It is awesome to see what the true history behind all these was.
Welcome back!!!!☺️ I missed your content
Can you do an episode about The Demon Girls of Ujae? I found the story about them interesting and found out about them whilst researching about the bikini atoll, more specifically about the relocation part (Just search up said thing online or check your email John Solo)