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Human behaviors range from a new mother to the American founding fathers Fatal flaw forgot females existences gave birth to American slavery procreating by rape torture child abuse cannibalism
if humanity would have recognized the significance of Charles Darwin's discoveries …. possibly complete restructure of the family unit grandmothers in charge of the health and well-being of mothers and children then there is a slim possibility white male on white female torture slavery Jim Crow all males on all femalefetuses family cruelty should've disappeared happiness appearing ... NOPE ... Americanism our permanently corrupted DNA is in a way ... and will be until the end of time and guess what it's irrelevant .... A waste of time trying to create world peace attempting to save parents from joining forces becoming baby raping abusing enslaving killing cooking and eating cannibals.
Although it’s always awkward to listen to/read anything with such outdated language, I will always be in awe of Mead’s insight into (what was then) the future in terms of paradigmatic value shifts, what might drive them, and what the consequences might be.
Her comments at the end about the paradox of technology and the fate of the individual are truly remarkable, given her time. Here she was laying out a complex dilemma just emerging which today has completely engulfed us and which we seemingly have no capacity to make sense of.
"The more uncomfortable we make women, the more moral we feel we are." 🤣🤣🤣 Amazing that this is still true in 2021 70 years after Margaret Mead said it.
Stone age people with no cloth iron or the wheel practicing human sacrifice was not uncommon and scalps were preferred to be taken from the living. Brutal living.
@@simpinainteasy680 i suppose we arrived with rose petals and feathers to tickle our way to the top. I’m sure we were not so brutal to bury people upto their necks and practice kicking their heads off. No no, we were not brute savages at all 🙄
definition of "Savage" : "Not domesticated" this is not an insult to these people. She did not look down on them. I am now 67 years old and my Mother used Margret Mead's studies to raise my sister and I. We are both very happy healthy and have good long lasting family relations and very good husbands and children. We have also applied to our children, what my mother applied to us through Margret Mead's studies.
that's great ms bishop, unfortunately it's not about what ms mead feels regarding the word "savage", it's more about the people who were colonized under the excuse of their "savagery" and their opinion on the matter as the ones actually affected
Ver interesting. A lot of wisdom. Strange that she doesn't mention that medical technology often prevents disabilty caused by disease, but I like her attitude about appreciating people of all abilities. Very uplifting.
Great thinker based on anthropological field research, who opened the way to modern thinking, of diversity, inclusion and radicalism. Albeit with backward language of the days, in which she swimmed. A meta analysis like hers misses issues such as indigineous people that lived on 'the empty land' that became the United States. Part of that must have been a political negotiation to be able to have her voice on NBC, be published and be a respected academic, in her unperfect times.
Her statement is cut off but it sounds like she’s speaking about advancing technology and its impact on civilization and culture in general, anticipating globalization, what McLuhan around that time prophesied as the global village.
It's somewhat astonishing to me that Mead would say so off-handedly, even in 1959, about Americans: "And we've been extraordinarily fortunate too, because we had this great empty continent with vast resources..." Empty?
It wasn't until relatively recently that we realized that the Americas were much more populated before the Europeans came. When Europeans and their descendants started going west, all we saw was a largely empty country that they didn't know had populations or larger populations.
interesting how she's so wise and sees so much, and still shows bias- referring to the continent as being "empty" before America started. a lesson to anyone who thinks they're perfect!
So now we know that the Norm isn't always right. regardless of the century when mankind doesn't connect to each other respectfully at its best in knowing the human race is a potential human being and valuable on every level. You think?
Why wouldn't they? The acceptance of far-fetched ideas of this interviewee were what started the decadence of US society. One of her famous lines is "Fathers are biological necessities, but social accidents." You don't have to look twice to see how that has utterly damaged US society, especially the blacks.
A lot of the terms are extremely dated in this video but to be fair in 1959 there wasn't the language we have now for describing groups, ethnicities, etc. without being overtly racist. It's still grating to hear her say "savage" "primitive" though
It's interesting because I believe in the beginning of her book (The Foreward?), a scholar states that Mead was against such archaic terms but had to conform to using the terms such as "savages" and "exotic" in order to be accepted in the academic (and arguably mainstream) culture of the time. I think this is a fascinating discussion point regarding what's more important in Anthropology: The Research for the People of Your Interest or the Research for Other Academics? Also, I remember my first Anthropology course, my professor stated "Any sensible anthropologist would NEVER use the term exotic", so glad to know that things have changed (or at least to a degree).
@@asderc1 Its only shocking as moderns have mastered lying to themselves, in fact she was a progenitor as her most hollow work was cited for such agendas.
As someone else here pointed out, this talk was from a different time with different values than today. Watching these videos today is a little painful but criticizing her for it now is like chiding a fossil entombed in rock for not having evolved locomotion yet. This talk between her and James Baldwin may throw more light on her viewpoints - things like her interpretation of what she presumes people associate skin color with ruclips.net/video/3WNO6f7rjE0/видео.html.
Easy to sit in judgment several decades after the fact and imagine yourselves casting a shadow over this research professor without any context for her views.. I'd be surprised if you read her article on Wikipedia or any of her studies in university depositories, but I suppose it's not impossible; I managed to find a good amount of her scholarly submissions to the field of anthropology on the subject of sexuality in New Guinea and gender roles in that region and then I looked at some criticism from her contemporaries that brought up some very important points that were crucially necessary regarding her scientific research methods (or lack thereof).. ..But the cringiest part of this discussion here about this interview is that 99.99% of you feel like you're qualified to cast shade over this research professor who had a great influence on the society in her day and actually can be seen as a bellwether for the "liberal progressive" attitude we see in our young people (and elderly, wealthy WASP-y ppl) today - who, ironically, throw shade on her for using politically incorrect wording in this interview 😂 It's a snake eating its tail and yet another prime example of the Left cannibalizing itself. Too cringy for words, and what's even more ineffable is the feeling I have when I see so much judgement from the P-Ps (professional philanthropists of perspective) on here, so kindly offering your opinion on what you regard as capital sin being exhibited by someone who is long gone and immune to the effects of your poisonous verdicts over the acceptance (or denial) of her empirically gathered evidence, as if you were qualified for the job of critiquing her conclusions, and I just find it so bemusing to witness the reactions of so many different people who have been conditioned to reject her candor - based not on the merits, but the fact that it's incongruous to your own personal dogmas regarding how she is to expected to speak vs. how she chooses to speak - Her candor is triggering some of you who have such finely tuned detectors for any straying from the boundaries you've set and the irony is just so beyond what I can put into words 😂 Possibly its my lack of vocabulary that impedes my explanation of how significant the irony of this set of circumstances has been while perusing the comments left here, but I suppose its just a matter of my inability to properly state my case for _why_ I'm so befuddled at the comments that's truly holding me back from locating a good explanation for the absolutely flabbergasted state I find myself in when reading these posts.. Good luck with the whole cannibalism thing and by all means, *please* don't hesitate to offer even more consideration for the position you're locked into since I'm thoroughly fascinated by the sheer lack of self awareness and unwarranted self importance I'm witnessing 😂 Inb4 tl;dr - yes you did ( ͠─ ͜ʖ ͠─ ) ╔════════════╗ ✸ ─╤╦︻ 𝔗𝔯𝔬𝔲𝔟𝔩𝔢 ︻╦╤─✸ ╚════════════╝
I think how we should look at her "outdated" view is to think of it as she is speaking to a "tribe" and as with each she might use their teens so they better understand her. She may have also had somewhat of a strangle hold from politically bound funding.
Whhat do you think about the "primitive groups" or "primitive people?" those words are being heard repeatedly. it makes me feel uncomfortable. What does mean that "primitive." They just have their own culture.
It's a word that embedded itself in academic vocabulary from the evolutionism of mid 19. century. Margaret Mead has been more and more apprehensive during her career about the use of the word but kinda used it 'for the lack of better word' she's one of the last anthropologist to use that language.
we are so lucky everything this woman is saying its been dismantled and re organised. she is racist , as a woman does't even understand how gender and power work, and this idea about America!!! how dare she talk about others place of this world with such condescendance ? this interview is very problematic.
Satre and many of the philosophers garnered these theories as well. Durkheim studied the relationship of religion to human natures origin, he was possibly the least bias. She definitely does a great job pointing out the narrowness of Americans' perspective of America being a 'better' Nation instead of just a different Nation.
Ren Tarvin she is racism, she is misogyny... I stopped about halfway, I couldn’t take it anymore. Sartre and the others were wrong as well. We talked about all of them in philosophy class in high school. Calling people primitives and savages !!! This perpetual need to down someone else just to feel better... I’m disgusted by all of it!!!!
Ideas evolve. How are people supposed to just magically spring into a full understanding of the world? She was immensely, almost scandalously progressive in her time. Your ideas only exist because of researchers like her.
Solar energy and automation liberating workers and opening up exciting new possibilities for modern society going forward…oh what could have been had the technocrats, corporate greedheads and warmongers not got there first!!
Although it’s always awkward to listen to/read anything with such outdated language, I will always be in awe of Mead’s insight into (what was then) the future in terms of paradigmatic value shifts, what might drive them, and what the consequences might be.
Check out these Margaret Mead books on Amazon!
Gods of the Upper Air: How a Circle of Renegade Anthropologists Reinvented Race, Sex, and Gender in the Twentieth Century: geni.us/JmBEk
Mead's, Sex and Temperament: In Three Primitive Societies: geni.us/DA9iOs
Coming of Age: The Sexual Awakening of Margaret Mead: geni.us/YoS8A
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Human behaviors range from a new mother to the American founding fathers Fatal flaw forgot females existences gave birth to American slavery procreating by rape torture child abuse cannibalism
if humanity would have recognized the significance of Charles Darwin's discoveries …. possibly complete restructure of the family unit grandmothers in charge of the health and well-being of mothers and children then there is a slim possibility white male on white female torture slavery Jim Crow all males on all femalefetuses family cruelty should've disappeared happiness appearing ... NOPE ... Americanism our permanently corrupted DNA is in a way ... and will be until the end of time and guess what it's irrelevant .... A waste of time trying to create world peace attempting to save parents from joining forces becoming baby raping abusing enslaving killing cooking and eating cannibals.
People speak from their experiences and observations they make over time. This interview provides classic viewpoint on our progressive humanity.
Although it’s always awkward to listen to/read anything with such outdated language, I will always be in awe of Mead’s insight into (what was then) the future in terms of paradigmatic value shifts, what might drive them, and what the consequences might be.
My thoughts exactly
I find the old school way of talking honest, refreshing and transparent. Free speech sustains our evolution.
Her comments at the end about the paradox of technology and the fate of the individual are truly remarkable, given her time. Here she was laying out a complex dilemma just emerging which today has completely engulfed us and which we seemingly have no capacity to make sense of.
Sensational interview. Master class
She's brilliant for her time with the technology we didn't have. She knew so much from just being brilliant and intuitive to the human condition.
Fascinating interview, really enjoyed listening. Thanks for uploading this.
Awesome look into history. She’s very insightful. Thanks 🙏
Such a complicated, multi-tiered subject - anthropology!
Thank you for posting this invaluable video about a remarkable woman and her great insights after studying the cultures of the world.
"The more uncomfortable we make women, the more moral we feel we are." 🤣🤣🤣 Amazing that this is still true in 2021 70 years after Margaret Mead said it.
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thank you. really enjoyed this interview
6:04 “empty continent” - it’s not empty when millions of native people were living there pre-Colombus era, is it?? 😩
couldn't believe my ears
Stone age people with no cloth iron or the wheel practicing human sacrifice was not uncommon and scalps were preferred to be taken from the living. Brutal living.
@@simpinainteasy680 i suppose we arrived with rose petals and feathers to tickle our way to the top.
I’m sure we were not so brutal to bury people upto their necks and practice kicking their heads off. No no, we were not brute savages at all 🙄
About 1.5 million in continental USA
@@redwater4778 that's the population of my city Las Vegas
It was a delight listening to her. Thanks for putting it out!
definition of "Savage" : "Not domesticated" this is not an insult to these people. She did not look down on them. I am now 67 years old and my Mother used Margret Mead's studies to raise my sister and I. We are both very happy healthy and have good long lasting family relations and very good husbands and children. We have also applied to our children, what my mother applied to us through Margret Mead's studies.
try being called that if you’re not white see how non insulting it’ll feel 🙄
that's great ms bishop, unfortunately it's not about what ms mead feels regarding the word "savage", it's more about the people who were colonized under the excuse of their "savagery" and their opinion on the matter as the ones actually affected
This channel is GOLD
Ver interesting. A lot of wisdom. Strange that she doesn't mention that medical technology often prevents disabilty caused by disease, but I like her attitude about appreciating people of all abilities. Very uplifting.
She speaks so beautifully
Great thinker based on anthropological field research, who opened the way to modern thinking, of diversity, inclusion and radicalism. Albeit with backward language of the days, in which she swimmed. A meta analysis like hers misses issues such as indigineous people that lived on 'the empty land' that became the United States. Part of that must have been a political negotiation to be able to have her voice on NBC, be published and be a respected academic, in her unperfect times.
Did anyone else just have their mind blown that this was made in 1959🤯 WHATTT??
Margaret Mead; a great American.
She had a very nuanced position on disability for 1959.
What was Mead referring to when stating "all that has disappeared today and now we're in one boat" at 0:51 ?
Her statement is cut off but it sounds like she’s speaking about advancing technology and its impact on civilization and culture in general, anticipating globalization, what McLuhan around that time prophesied as the global village.
Thanks! @@dirtycelinefrenchman
Thanks
thank you! I'm heavily influenced by Mead, but haven't ever seen this vid. prescient
Kathy bates should play this woman in a film
It's somewhat astonishing to me that Mead would say so off-handedly, even in 1959, about Americans: "And we've been extraordinarily fortunate too, because we had this great empty continent with vast resources..." Empty?
It had many indigenous populations and cultures. "Empty" if you are blind.
About 1.5 million natives occupied continental USA
@@redwater4778 that's the population of my city, Las Vegas..
It wasn't until relatively recently that we realized that the Americas were much more populated before the Europeans came. When Europeans and their descendants started going west, all we saw was a largely empty country that they didn't know had populations or larger populations.
It's especially strange to hear her say this since she stayed and worked with the Omaha tribe for a while
interesting how she's so wise and sees so much, and still shows bias- referring to the continent as being "empty" before America started.
a lesson to anyone who thinks they're perfect!
I only came here because Alan Watts mentioned in one of his talks that he once had a "terrible argument" with this woman about the atomic bomb.
Very interesting.
Love her
11:50 she is right..// teach he expected behavior and the be have Yours shall become the endurance of the species taught..
So now we know that the Norm isn't always right. regardless of the century when mankind doesn't connect to each other respectfully at its best in knowing the human race is a potential human being and valuable on every level. You think?
RIP Dr. William Mitchell, who just recently passed away at 95.
God! reading the comments below, how could americans fight each other for an interview conducted half a century ago? chill out people!
Why wouldn't they? The acceptance of far-fetched ideas of this interviewee were what started the decadence of US society. One of her famous lines is "Fathers are biological necessities, but social accidents." You don't have to look twice to see how that has utterly damaged US society, especially the blacks.
Who will do the research of SpikeBoarding incubation?
Awww yes the "happy savage".
10:00 War between men and women was made up by Madison Ave....the fashion companies?
He said: "Exotic People"
It is the being "open-minded" and racist at the same time, for me.
A lot of the terms are extremely dated in this video but to be fair in 1959 there wasn't the language we have now for describing groups, ethnicities, etc. without being overtly racist. It's still grating to hear her say "savage" "primitive" though
It's interesting because I believe in the beginning of her book (The Foreward?), a scholar states that Mead was against such archaic terms but had to conform to using the terms such as "savages" and "exotic" in order to be accepted in the academic (and arguably mainstream) culture of the time. I think this is a fascinating discussion point regarding what's more important in Anthropology: The Research for the People of Your Interest or the Research for Other Academics?
Also, I remember my first Anthropology course, my professor stated "Any sensible anthropologist would NEVER use the term exotic", so glad to know that things have changed (or at least to a degree).
i thought nobody else saw it smh
Closed minded much? You know there was a time in history that they didn't have this bullshit political correctness that we have today, don't you?
@@asderc1 Its only shocking as moderns have mastered lying to themselves, in fact she was a progenitor as her most hollow work was cited for such agendas.
As someone else here pointed out, this talk was from a different time with different values than today. Watching these videos today is a little painful but criticizing her for it now is like chiding a fossil entombed in rock for not having evolved locomotion yet. This talk between her and James Baldwin may throw more light on her viewpoints - things like her interpretation of what she presumes people associate skin color with ruclips.net/video/3WNO6f7rjE0/видео.html.
Easy to sit in judgment several decades after the fact and imagine yourselves casting a shadow over this research professor without any context for her views..
I'd be surprised if you read her article on Wikipedia or any of her studies in university depositories, but I suppose it's not impossible; I managed to find a good amount of her scholarly submissions to the field of anthropology on the subject of sexuality in New Guinea and gender roles in that region and then I looked at some criticism from her contemporaries that brought up some very important points that were crucially necessary regarding her scientific research methods (or lack thereof)..
..But the cringiest part of this discussion here about this interview is that 99.99% of you feel like you're qualified to cast shade over this research professor who had a great influence on the society in her day and actually can be seen as a bellwether for the "liberal progressive" attitude we see in our young people (and elderly, wealthy WASP-y ppl) today - who, ironically, throw shade on her for using politically incorrect wording in this interview 😂 It's a snake eating its tail and yet another prime example of the Left cannibalizing itself.
Too cringy for words, and what's even more ineffable is the feeling I have when I see so much judgement from the P-Ps (professional philanthropists of perspective) on here, so kindly offering your opinion on what you regard as capital sin being exhibited by someone who is long gone and immune to the effects of your poisonous verdicts over the acceptance (or denial) of her empirically gathered evidence, as if you were qualified for the job of critiquing her conclusions, and I just find it so bemusing to witness the reactions of so many different people who have been conditioned to reject her candor - based not on the merits, but the fact that it's incongruous to your own personal dogmas regarding how she is to expected to speak vs. how she chooses to speak - Her candor is triggering some of you who have such finely tuned detectors for any straying from the boundaries you've set and the irony is just so beyond what I can put into words 😂
Possibly its my lack of vocabulary that impedes my explanation of how significant the irony of this set of circumstances has been while perusing the comments left here, but I suppose its just a matter of my inability to properly state my case for _why_ I'm so befuddled at the comments that's truly holding me back from locating a good explanation for the absolutely flabbergasted state I find myself in when reading these posts..
Good luck with the whole cannibalism thing and by all means, *please* don't hesitate to offer even more consideration for the position you're locked into since I'm thoroughly fascinated by the sheer lack of self awareness and unwarranted self importance I'm witnessing 😂
Inb4 tl;dr - yes you did
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It's been some time since you wrote this comment but I just wanted to congratulate you. Well said and spot on 🔥👏
@@fatherburning358 thank you. I appreciate that, homes.
she’s my great great grandma lmao
wow, can you help me find a book of hers? i cannot find it anywhere
"Cultural patterning of perinatal behavior" - maybe i have the title wrong, maybe it is an essay, kindly help out
That’s so awesome!
I wish I had an intelligent great great grandma like her. Unfortunately for me, I come from simpletons. Oh well 🙃
I think how we should look at her "outdated" view is to think of it as she is speaking to a "tribe" and as with each she might use their teens so they better understand her. She may have also had somewhat of a strangle hold from politically bound funding.
1:30
Mead referred samo island and people behaving patterns but similarities are always not unique
I was disappointed hearing Mead in this interview. From her writing I was expecting more insight.
Shud have been, ought to b, and into future, learned by students in education institutions, everywhere
18:30 ready
Her funding says everything about her agenda.
Who funded her?
Wondering if it bothered her, as she discussed the importance of maintaining human survival, that her interviewer was adamantly puffing a cigarette.
Any upsc aspirant here😊
KEŞKE TÜRKÇESİDE OLSAYDI.
the more watch, the more she looks like harry styles
you dont seem to have all the answers 3 yeah many of them are acting like they want attention by their looks
The happy savage ffs 🤦♀️
Creepy, worthy to watch?
i don't think you've got a danish outlook margaret mead
nevermind i am sleepy
Ello
That man hardly ever blinks and it freaks me the fuck out. Margaret was fantastic, though.
Whhat do you think about the "primitive groups" or "primitive people?" those words are being heard repeatedly. it makes me feel uncomfortable. What does mean that "primitive." They just have their own culture.
Historical context is really something
It's a word that embedded itself in academic vocabulary from the evolutionism of mid 19. century. Margaret Mead has been more and more apprehensive during her career about the use of the word but kinda used it 'for the lack of better word' she's one of the last anthropologist to use that language.
…this is the face of the American enemy
This is so cringy
The 1950s were so cringe. Hot take!
we are so lucky everything this woman is saying its been dismantled and re organised. she is racist , as a woman does't even understand how gender and power work, and this idea about America!!! how dare she talk about others place of this world with such condescendance ? this interview is very problematic.
Ha! Good joke!
Satre and many of the philosophers garnered these theories as well. Durkheim studied the relationship of religion to human natures origin, he was possibly the least bias. She definitely does a great job pointing out the narrowness of Americans' perspective of America being a 'better' Nation instead of just a different Nation.
Ren Tarvin she is racism, she is misogyny... I stopped about halfway, I couldn’t take it anymore. Sartre and the others were wrong as well. We talked about all of them in philosophy class in high school. Calling people primitives and savages !!! This perpetual need to down someone else just to feel better... I’m disgusted by all of it!!!!
@@herbertndekiii228 I feel you but right now they are the Griots. We have to know what they wrote if we are ever able to change it.
Ideas evolve. How are people supposed to just magically spring into a full understanding of the world? She was immensely, almost scandalously progressive in her time. Your ideas only exist because of researchers like her.
Solar energy and automation liberating workers and opening up exciting new possibilities for modern society going forward…oh what could have been had the technocrats, corporate greedheads and warmongers not got there first!!
If only concern for the disabled today extended to their needs as people and not just their status as workers and consumers!
Although it’s always awkward to listen to/read anything with such outdated language, I will always be in awe of Mead’s insight into (what was then) the future in terms of paradigmatic value shifts, what might drive them, and what the consequences might be.
Heard ya the 1st time..