i had an actual "holy fucking shit" moment when i saw that,all the times trying to look at or show someone a replay and i have to sit there and fast forward is insane,until that replay upload website was a thing atleast
I'd love to also see some kind of ui like in osu rewind where you see the window you pressed down the key and how it compares to the window the circle/slider should have been pressed but this is definitely a step in the right direction
@@chiffaonosu that's great to hear! it's totally understandable that they want to focus on the more important core parts of the game right now tho (like the pp update and how the new mod settings will affect it)
15:07 I'm happy to hear that peppy is interested in adding new things to the game here's hoping this nostalgia-addled community doesn't dissuade him from getting to do that.
after playing on the lazer client only for almost pretty much all of the 2nd half of 2023, amazing to finally see pp being enabled -- even if leaderboards have a chance to reset, just makes me hyped. i personally enjoy lazer over stable more. all the changes to lazer just makes the game overall more enjoyable to me, some aspects feel more rewarding in a sense. thank u osu team for your efforts 🎉
@@Kuzamori i say give it a shot. if you don't like it, the great thing is you can always go back to stable! imo it's worth getting used to but that's just a personal feeling; having to hit sliders more accurately feels more rewarding to me, especially when before i did everything in my power to cheese a lot of them
im both very excited and hesitant as a player who mains multiple modes, imo lazer for standard feels soooo much better than stable and i cant see any reason not to switch, but mania feels a lot worse, especially with the lack of an accessible skin.ini to change major skin elements like the positioning of the columns, the judgement line, the judgement text position, etc, theres just too much you cant do with the skin editor to make it playable for me, and importing from stable doesnt seem to always work correctly
I feel like a legacy mode toggle would be sending mixed messages, since osu!stable is still treated like the official version of osu! for now; It would be calling out people who still use stable. Once osu!lazer starts being treated as opt-out instead of opt-in, it would make more sense
Peppy wasn't lieing about the last time the database went down for critical maintenance. 1st of April, 2014. I have a video where I set an SS on a stream map posted on the 1st, and I raged because it was while bancho was down, and no score submissions were possible. Amazing he actually remembered that far back.
@@helpmepleasee5797 I've only dabbled in mania, but my impression is that 1,000,000 being the best possible score is something that mania players like. Having 320s give bonus score above 1 million was also unpopular iirc.
@@NotAghostSpeedrunsYeah. I like mania having that 1M cap, it felt weird being able to just apply DT and pass everyone who didn't use DT. I know it makes it harder, but in standard the 1M is like the master, you mastered and played perfectly. No other mod gives extra score, so DT shouldn't as well.
MFC and PFC stand for Marvelous and Perfect Full Combo respectively, it comes from DDR/Stepmania where top two judgements are called like that and also have the respective full combo types too in regards to mania, MFC is a million (all rainbow 300) and PFC is Score v1 SS respectively but other people definitely already said that so idk why i wrote this
In classic osu standard, dropping a slider end won't break your combo but you do miss out on one combo point. This means that you can finish the map without combo breaks and still not have the maximum possible combo. In this context a PFC refers to actually getting the maximum possible combo and a "normal" FC means no combo breaks.
Really don't know how to feel about the new logo though. It looks good with the O being like a hit circle and especially the small one on the website looks super clean but still... It's different now and that will def take some getting used to.
osu lazer is the most cross platform game that I know. That is very valuable achievement in the world of windows only games. That's why I love osu lazer
"There's a lot of different meanings for 'Full Combo' in the community and apparently there's, like, a PFC and an MFC? I didn't even know MFC stands for but it was all just too much for me" got a dumb laugh out of me as I realised how many abbreviations and terms we've coined as VSRG players across different rhythm games that so many others in the rhythm game community get lost in the sauce regardless It reminded me of how PIU has different classifications for combo clear types being "All Combo (AC)" and "Full Combo (FC)" because a judgement didn't break combo but it also didn't raise combo
PIU doesn't tell you with AC or FC indicators either. On the previous mix (XX) S rank meant no misses and no/very few bads. Now, below your grade you get accolades based on your judgements. If MISS+BAD=0 then you get an "all combo" and its associated accolade.
7:03 "to be honest i dont really get this one" the dev team has been making so many choices that go against mania players' wishes, and the reaction to people asking for this change just proves that they really don't understand us at all... i really dont mean to be a hater or anything, but i cant help but express my frustration at this as its been quite an issue for a bit of time now, with many things like the letter grade requirements, judgement names, score calculation (combo weighting), other score multipliers like ht, etc.
So I'm not really familiar with most parts of this game at all, but my best guess is that the main devs are mostly familiar with standard and taiko, and so they don't really have any consistent devs to help them understand mania better (and catch sorta just exists). I don't think they intentionally want to screw anyone over, though. Speaking of that change, what _is_ the reason mania should not have the dt multiplier? It's different to just increasing the scroll speed, right..?
@@squiddu To put it a bit simply, increasing the speed of a song can actually make it easier to score better accuracy in mania. It wouldn't feel right to give an advantage to players who can play fast better than being technically accurate. Scroll speed is a non-factor. You can adjust the scroll speed for readability.
@@Tribowohhh that makes sense. As a mania player who doesn’t use DT, I was also thinking ‘I also don’t get this one’. But now I do. Thanks for clarifying!
@@TribowUhh what? DT making acc easier (maybe its true for maps that are 3* and lower, but who cares the lbs are full of 1 mil scores anyway) and better players being better is unfair? How?
@@Legendary-st9of You're essentially telling me that players who can't play the original chart with good accuracy are allowed to change it to make it easier for themselves.
That dot on the centre of the 'o' in the new logo is a little too disruptive from all the previous ones. i get that it's part of the font used, it just doesn't sit right with it.
I really REALLY appreciate building such a good base for the game to grow on! We are already seeing a lot of cool things, but I can't wait to see what's in store for us in 2024!
After getting all these basic systems right and good, imo I think the developers should be focusing specially in making lazer easy to use and welcoming to new players. Starting the game with a tutorial on the menus and a introduction/tutorial on all the 4 modes would be really good for that
Re-started osu! with lazer, I'm so happy to see it reaching the stage where pp can be earned ! Thanks a lot, team, you put on some amazing work ! Still sad to see all my best scores gone T_T, but it was expected :)
14:12 Perhaps adding a "PS" (Perfect Score) between S and SS to indicate a "perfect combo" (no slider ends dropped) vs just knowing if a score is a "full combo" (possibly slider ends were dropped) would be a nice addition. Then just right-align all of the grades so that you can at a glance see if it's a D, C, B, A, or S rank, then just look to the left of the character to see what type of S rank it is {full combo: S, perfect combo: FS, perfect accuracy: SS}
As a casual player, I don't care much about PP. I play to get better and have fun, that's why I only play on laser. Regardless of future developments on the leaderboards, it's still nice that I will be able to track my progress in laser.
the new logo is controversial probably because it doesn't look lowercase anymore, it just looks like small uppercase, i think the dot in the O is fine after some time of getting used to
I've been frustrated by the hexagon icons since they were added as they turn the silhouette of every icon using that style into the same thing, making them really confusing; the new icons completely avoided that now! They're great! I'm amazed at how much was done within just a month or two, おつかれさまです！
Just an appreciation comment for peppy he’s such a good game developer for making us all addicted to clicking the circles and interacting so incredibly much with his community!
Been playing since 2017 and I am at the point where I don't farm and mainly just play multiplayer matches and what is keeping me away from lazer right now is the awful side scoreboard. I want to be able to see people's score and combo on the side while I play as it really motivates me to pick up my performance for first place. I also really miss seeing people when they die and revive, the system of just dying and staying dead is boring.
I have i3 8100 and 1060 3gb and 16gb ram, it's lagging osu! lazer in the game itself and in the menu, when scrolling through the maps, maps are installed on the ssd. Why is such a game needed?
if there’s ever gonna be option to make skin instafadeble in game? that would be so great if instafade skins had more than 1 color and was a lot easier to create them.
For fc, why dont you try making the score in a new color. For example a score that had one miss would be a default color but a fc score would be a different color. White for normal gold for fc could be a nice example
been waiting for such an update to happen but my intel hd 2000 doesnt help me enjoy lazer that much so ig that will wait until I have a decent pc to run, hopefully by that time lazer pp will be an official thing and top players start exploiting it
I was very skeptical about lazer since it had a lot of problems. Now most of them are gone, it's definitely an improvement and now it's so much more playable than before. But not gonna lie, I felt like stable even now has less input lag than lazer. Aim feels much snappier and responsive. You can't deny it.
We got osu!lazer pp before GTA 6
We have almost waited longer for Lazer pp
Ong i am finna go stupid on ctb@@kogamaandrers6692
GTA 6 before Lazer becomes stable probably :P
but we couldn't beat geometry dash 2.2
osu!lazer before silksong
being able to skip around and through replays changes everything
"Omg you won't believe what happened at the 7 minute mark! Oh you missed it? Lets watch that 7 minutes again"
yea this is huge, they actually put a cure for mindblock into the game with this one
at exthird
this is the feature ive been waiting for 😭
i had an actual "holy fucking shit" moment when i saw that,all the times trying to look at or show someone a replay and i have to sit there and fast forward is insane,until that replay upload website was a thing atleast
I don't hate the new logo, it's good. It's just my 8 years of nostalgia getting in the way
the dot in the o is objectively a dogshit idea
@@theb5904agree
it looks like a note and an approach circle wdym @@theb5904
I feel like it could look good, but I would rather it get removed entirely xd@@theb5904
i still miss the italicized osu logo with light pink color 😊😂
No one knows how to make me happy like ppy with his lazer news
I think releasing it later rather than at the end of 2023 so it can be more polished was a good move.
2023 already ended
@@botondtoth on gang?
on g?
@@botondtoth
really? 😨 @@botondtoth
@@botondtothfor real?
Replay playback can now be accelerated precisely to the point needed, and frame by frame viewing is truly amazing. Welcome to lazer
I'd love to also see some kind of ui like in osu rewind where you see the window you pressed down the key and how it compares to the window the circle/slider should have been pressed but this is definitely a step in the right direction
@@tobias-sageriirc rewind-like behaviour has been considered but, as with many large qol things, it will take time
@@chiffaonosu that's great to hear! it's totally understandable that they want to focus on the more important core parts of the game right now tho (like the pp update and how the new mod settings will affect it)
rip cheaters tho! osureport is gonna have a field day
15:07 I'm happy to hear that peppy is interested in adding new things to the game
here's hoping this nostalgia-addled community doesn't dissuade him from getting to do that.
HUGE ANIME BREASTS
@@KokoroKatsura osu players really have their own form of brainrot 💀
after playing on the lazer client only for almost pretty much all of the 2nd half of 2023, amazing to finally see pp being enabled -- even if leaderboards have a chance to reset, just makes me hyped.
i personally enjoy lazer over stable more. all the changes to lazer just makes the game overall more enjoyable to me, some aspects feel more rewarding in a sense.
thank u osu team for your efforts 🎉
I like lazer but I'm hesitant to switch over because of slider acc lol
I started playing OSU in January, and i switched to lazer in feb. I love lazer :D
@@Kuzamori i say give it a shot. if you don't like it, the great thing is you can always go back to stable! imo it's worth getting used to but that's just a personal feeling; having to hit sliders more accurately feels more rewarding to me, especially when before i did everything in my power to cheese a lot of them
im both very excited and hesitant as a player who mains multiple modes, imo lazer for standard feels soooo much better than stable and i cant see any reason not to switch, but mania feels a lot worse, especially with the lack of an accessible skin.ini to change major skin elements like the positioning of the columns, the judgement line, the judgement text position, etc, theres just too much you cant do with the skin editor to make it playable for me, and importing from stable doesnt seem to always work correctly
@@sean12444 oooo mania community needs to make more issues
Instead of a "lazer mode" toggle it should probably be the opposite and there should be a "legacy mode"
That'll prob happen when you can choose lazer as an update option in the stable client.
only makes sense once lazer scores are actually not subject to potential reset anymore.
I feel like a legacy mode toggle would be sending mixed messages, since osu!stable is still treated like the official version of osu! for now; It would be calling out people who still use stable. Once osu!lazer starts being treated as opt-out instead of opt-in, it would make more sense
perhaps "osu! classic" mode would make more sense
Peppy wasn't lieing about the last time the database went down for critical maintenance. 1st of April, 2014. I have a video where I set an SS on a stream map posted on the 1st, and I raged because it was while bancho was down, and no score submissions were possible. Amazing he actually remembered that far back.
for mania:
dt doesn't multiply score, it makes map have higher star rate, so you still gain much more pp for dt.
well yes but it's still more difficult than playing it nm so it should give more score since it's more effort but idk i don't play mania
@@helpmepleasee5797 it absolutely shouldn't
@@helpmepleasee5797 nope, mania score cap should always stay 1mil no matter what.
@@helpmepleasee5797 I've only dabbled in mania, but my impression is that 1,000,000 being the best possible score is something that mania players like. Having 320s give bonus score above 1 million was also unpopular iirc.
@@NotAghostSpeedrunsYeah. I like mania having that 1M cap, it felt weird being able to just apply DT and pass everyone who didn't use DT. I know it makes it harder, but in standard the 1M is like the master, you mastered and played perfectly. No other mod gives extra score, so DT shouldn't as well.
This is amazing news! There's only one thing I dont like which is that the appearance of the song select section in Lazer can't be changed with skins.
Soon maybe
5:14 "a pp-hungry audience" huehue
MFC and PFC stand for Marvelous and Perfect Full Combo respectively, it comes from DDR/Stepmania where top two judgements are called like that and also have the respective full combo types too
in regards to mania, MFC is a million (all rainbow 300) and PFC is Score v1 SS respectively
but other people definitely already said that so idk why i wrote this
In classic osu standard, dropping a slider end won't break your combo but you do miss out on one combo point. This means that you can finish the map without combo breaks and still not have the maximum possible combo. In this context a PFC refers to actually getting the maximum possible combo and a "normal" FC means no combo breaks.
i love the way it jumps from an S down to an A on the results screen so much
Scores done on lazer appearing in stable would be very cool. Cant wait for that update!
Thanks for putting my map in the video
Really don't know how to feel about the new logo though. It looks good with the O being like a hit circle and especially the small one on the website looks super clean but still... It's different now and that will def take some getting used to.
lets fucking go!!
imagine what happens now when lazer only players can get pp...
first btw, very cool 👍
I just teleported 200k with a D rank
@@PhelBot Probably just updating your rank.
Lazer full pp is equivalent to
Gta6 release 💀 both been hanging for 10 years
@@wishing_pearlwe are gonna get full lazer integration before gta 6 💀
osu lazer is the most cross platform game that I know. That is very valuable achievement in the world of windows only games. That's why I love osu lazer
Couldn’t even edge to this, I exploded immediately!!! Clean up on aisle MY PANTS 😂😂😂😂
relatable
HUH
HUH
WE PEEING
For relax players I really recommend adding seperate leaderboards for relax being as that basically exists already in other private servers
technically this already exists if you just look at the LB for that specific mod no?
@@ctrlJov most ppl dont have supporter, this seems like something that should be supported anyway in the game
@@nope5994 O ig i’ve had supporter for so long i forgot that wasn’t a base feature lmao
@@ctrlJov no not really because relax scores don't submit.
@@KoriVRC they do submit in lazer, and even give pp
You're a G for adding the replay functions Peppy
"There's a lot of different meanings for 'Full Combo' in the community and apparently there's, like, a PFC and an MFC? I didn't even know MFC stands for but it was all just too much for me" got a dumb laugh out of me as I realised how many abbreviations and terms we've coined as VSRG players across different rhythm games that so many others in the rhythm game community get lost in the sauce regardless
It reminded me of how PIU has different classifications for combo clear types being "All Combo (AC)" and "Full Combo (FC)" because a judgement didn't break combo but it also didn't raise combo
PIU doesn't tell you with AC or FC indicators either. On the previous mix (XX) S rank meant no misses and no/very few bads.
Now, below your grade you get accolades based on your judgements. If MISS+BAD=0 then you get an "all combo" and its associated accolade.
7:03 "to be honest i dont really get this one"
the dev team has been making so many choices that go against mania players' wishes, and the reaction to people asking for this change just proves that they really don't understand us at all...
i really dont mean to be a hater or anything, but i cant help but express my frustration at this as its been quite an issue for a bit of time now, with many things like the letter grade requirements, judgement names, score calculation (combo weighting), other score multipliers like ht, etc.
So I'm not really familiar with most parts of this game at all, but my best guess is that the main devs are mostly familiar with standard and taiko, and so they don't really have any consistent devs to help them understand mania better (and catch sorta just exists). I don't think they intentionally want to screw anyone over, though.
Speaking of that change, what _is_ the reason mania should not have the dt multiplier? It's different to just increasing the scroll speed, right..?
@@squiddu To put it a bit simply, increasing the speed of a song can actually make it easier to score better accuracy in mania. It wouldn't feel right to give an advantage to players who can play fast better than being technically accurate.
Scroll speed is a non-factor. You can adjust the scroll speed for readability.
@@Tribowohhh that makes sense. As a mania player who doesn’t use DT, I was also thinking ‘I also don’t get this one’. But now I do. Thanks for clarifying!
@@TribowUhh what? DT making acc easier (maybe its true for maps that are 3* and lower, but who cares the lbs are full of 1 mil scores anyway) and better players being better is unfair? How?
@@Legendary-st9of You're essentially telling me that players who can't play the original chart with good accuracy are allowed to change it to make it easier for themselves.
That dot on the centre of the 'o' in the new logo is a little too disruptive from all the previous ones.
i get that it's part of the font used, it just doesn't sit right with it.
Historical moment for the community
That auto global offset feature is THE best feature from Lazer rn imo
yess bro i can never do my offest manually
I really REALLY appreciate building such a good base for the game to grow on! We are already seeing a lot of cool things, but I can't wait to see what's in store for us in 2024!
I just realized that were gonna see a whole lot of touchscreen plays now because of lazer on mobile
I seriously want to play lazer on my phone but we downgraded and I doubt my phone can handle it well😅 but maybe...
I love the new feedback in lazer, slider feedback REALLY helps accuracy improvement
lets gooo !
That replay function is going to be great :>
still waiting for the combo burst come back.
“You got an S! .. SIKE”
Thanks to Lazer, all my flashlight plays are higher up on the leaderboards! :D
The Playback change is like something that i wished for years, thanks osu! team !!!!!
pishifat is actually the most goated addition to peppy's pr
THANK YOU PEPPY AND DEV TEAM (and anyone else who helped)!
Man i remember seeing you on stage at COE 2019 talking about Lazer. It's amazing to see it become something so wonderful. Thank you!
you definitely didn't have to print out all those posters with the changelogs but you did it for the content and I massively respect that
I do like lazer, hope that everything will turn out okay!
cant wait to earn peppy points
peepee
I gonna miss the s rank for 95+ acc, I love that feature. Makes scores feel like they're grand. Good motivation.
They did say there's always a chance for that to change again. I liked it too, but I understand it.
@@amariX. yeah, but I'm gonna miss getting rewarded for higher accuracy. Reason why alotta my plays on Lazer are 95+.
After getting all these basic systems right and good, imo I think the developers should be focusing specially in making lazer easy to use and welcoming to new players.
Starting the game with a tutorial on the menus and a introduction/tutorial on all the 4 modes would be really good for that
新しいロゴ、ダサいと思う...
・字間がやや狭い
・字間がやや狭い！！
・Oの真ん中の点に強烈な違和感を覚える
・角ばっていて縦長の、昔の文字の方がスポーティーでかっこよく見える
Re-started osu! with lazer, I'm so happy to see it reaching the stage where pp can be earned ! Thanks a lot, team, you put on some amazing work !
Still sad to see all my best scores gone T_T, but it was expected :)
14:12 Perhaps adding a "PS" (Perfect Score) between S and SS to indicate a "perfect combo" (no slider ends dropped) vs just knowing if a score is a "full combo" (possibly slider ends were dropped) would be a nice addition. Then just right-align all of the grades so that you can at a glance see if it's a D, C, B, A, or S rank, then just look to the left of the character to see what type of S rank it is {full combo: S, perfect combo: FS, perfect accuracy: SS}
As a casual player, I don't care much about PP. I play to get better and have fun, that's why I only play on laser.
Regardless of future developments on the leaderboards, it's still nice that I will be able to track my progress in laser.
Let's go! I always liked the direction of lazer. I really like the new features.
LETS GOOO VUDEO QUALITY AMAZING AS ALWAYS
everything is perfect, my only issue with the lack of vulkan :/ other than that thanks for all the efforts!
the new logo is controversial probably because it doesn't look lowercase anymore, it just looks like small uppercase, i think the dot in the O is fine after some time of getting used to
It is actually here now!!!! 👀
😁
I've been frustrated by the hexagon icons since they were added as they turn the silhouette of every icon using that style into the same thing, making them really confusing; the new icons completely avoided that now! They're great! I'm amazed at how much was done within just a month or two, おつかれさまです！
Just an appreciation comment for peppy he’s such a good game developer for making us all addicted to clicking the circles and interacting so incredibly much with his community!
МЫ БЫЛИ ТУТ, РЕБЯТА
Been playing since 2017 and I am at the point where I don't farm and mainly just play multiplayer matches and what is keeping me away from lazer right now is the awful side scoreboard. I want to be able to see people's score and combo on the side while I play as it really motivates me to pick up my performance for first place. I also really miss seeing people when they die and revive, the system of just dying and staying dead is boring.
Really sad they changed the S/A system back to stable, I liked how it de-emphasised combos and made acc more important
Thanks so much! I have been playing osu lazer on linux for last 2 years since i don't use windows anymore, and my ranking had such a steep decline.
I may be the only one, but I’m still waiting for tag in lazer
oh I haven't played osu in a while. this seems like a good reason to come back
7:03
GUYS LOOK MIRAIE SONG
Am I the only one who is still hesitant because there’s still a potential score reset?
Replay playback buff is insane. Thanks ppy and team
Thank you! Love your work
I think the new logo looks pretty good. Makes the “o” look like a hit circle, which gives it character
Can’t wait for skinning update for the menu but it will probably come later one day
1:18 good kid song!!!
Good kid meantioned!!
the new logo it's ok for me idk why people are hating so much, it's just a logo :p
13:45 that fake S rank animation is so sad
15:07 Just booting up the game and it already goes HARD. 🔥🔥 Love everything about this.
cutting edge lazer sounds like a good idea for these daily updates
0:11 i know that guy
I have i3 8100 and 1060 3gb and 16gb ram, it's lagging osu! lazer in the game itself and in the menu, when scrolling through the maps, maps are installed on the ssd. Why is such a game needed?
if there’s ever gonna be option to make skin instafadeble in game? that would be so great if instafade skins had more than 1 color and was a lot easier to create them.
Daidai in the beginning got me so hyped for this video.
For fc, why dont you try making the score in a new color. For example a score that had one miss would be a default color but a fc score would be a different color. White for normal gold for fc could be a nice example
Peppy: Please give the new HP algorithm a try!
yuratm223: I AM DISAPPOINTED!!
awesome, the only thing i hate is the new scoring being capped at 1 mil that just sux
I WAS HERE!!!!!!!!
Finally Osu! 2
I have a idea for the full combo indactor- maybe change the color to purple instead of blue for s ranks
6:51 rushii machine
El día ha llegado...
Love the new logo
when i saw this title i wasnt expecting an osu video...
peppy got the lazer hair cut
been waiting for such an update to happen but my intel hd 2000 doesnt help me enjoy lazer that much so ig that will wait until I have a decent pc to run, hopefully by that time lazer pp will be an official thing and top players start exploiting it
yes i can finally skip to what i want to watch in the replay! 🙏 thanks peppy!
Kind of bewildering that accuracy challenge does not give pp despite it merely being a fail condition. Why is it supposed to multiply anything anyway?
pp in osu lazer before gta 6 what a time to be alive
replay playback is the best feature fr
I believe Lazer is great, keep it up! really like everything you're doing!
I was very skeptical about lazer since it had a lot of problems. Now most of them are gone, it's definitely an improvement and now it's so much more playable than before. But not gonna lie, I felt like stable even now has less input lag than lazer. Aim feels much snappier and responsive. You can't deny it.
I can't believe Lazer is finally out 👏👏👏
Classic mod doesnt show on pinned scores on your profile in lazer mode
lo bueno es que ya esta cerca :D
2:52 does anyone know the name of this map?