Oh boy can't wait to read all the civil comments and I'm not even gonna say anything cuz there is a leaked character in wuwa that is probably gonna be compared to an hsr character but we will see
@Lex_xander1 it's unfortunately both ways, ehn-na. So much so they're now called Complaint Impact vs Comparing Waves, ehn-na. The difference is WUWA players are allowed to talk about ZZZ without getting crucified, unlike GI players that were the first to blast ZZZ, ehn-na.
@ This kind of hair accessory is very common with this style of outfit. It's a Victorian dress with a laced bonnet that often stereotypically has women walking around with a laced parasol, like the two of them have. Type in google "Atelier Sophie Pamela". You'll see a character with a near identical appearance as these two, and this character has been around for ages. There are other characters as well that have a similar appearance as these two
The Wuwa NPC is holding a cane and not an umbrella. Its very thin to be an umbrella. You can also see the tip of it having something like a bulge. Usually rubber paddings you see on canes.
Here we go again, I hope people will not accuse wuwa or zzz of plagiarism. Because in case some people didn't know, character designs aren't made in a week. They take months especially with the amount of details (and if they are playable). So it is just a coincidence, this style isn't new But I love both of the design they are really pretty especially with the umbrella
I know, but looking back to the early days when alot of people accusing kuro copying Black swan with Shoorekeeper, I can see this is would be their opportunity to fight back. They would do it if they had a chance.
Zzz’s 1.5 teaser was on January 10th while wuwa 2.0 released on January 3rd and the teaser obviously being worked like 2 to 1 week before hand can zzz really cook up a character that is very similar to the npc in that short amount of time definitely not and to be fair their design isnt even unique almost every gacha game has a character with like a sheep herder style so its all a coincidence
with that much similarity in color scheme? i doubt it.. well you can assume however you want tho in the end it's assumption.. tho i'm fine with it but yea just saying that was assumption
This reminds me situation of OLD Capcom vs SNK banters, where both "steal" designs from each other, but mostly for mocking. This internet era however make conflict worse
The worst thing is that people who, because someone came out with days, don't have enough for a week, start fighting, forgetting that it takes time to develop.
@@christiabayu3325 rigging, adjusting textures, making sure there's no clipping in the animation, motion adjustments - yeah, no, these things don't just get quickly adjusted in that kind of time frame. It takes quite a bit of time
bros coping hard, anyways lets say that ur right (lol) . zzz can only design a char that looks like a npc in wuwa, just saying. its pretty obv they prob took some design from wuwa
If she’s any connection to hugo vlad the vampire i would say its more like “Katya bloodsucker of the night “ from shadowverse. But we’ll see clearer from her drip marketing
For what I know Creating characters take time They can’t just design it in a month They are just revealed Which means both of those characters are taken someone else for inspiration
Hard for this comment section to not get the joke. Yeah the colours and outfit look the same but both must be conceived through rigorous character designs before being released for the public. Learn how character process works.
If I remember correctly, that character had already been teased before in the form of a silhouette in some side mission-they didn't necessarily copy Rosemary! I just wanna keep things fair
Well, i suggest to everyone wait Cantarella's appearance in Wuthering Waves, she looks quite similar to that npc, but more elegant and with very mommy vibes :)
Kuro has like this unsaid mission where they make games that are way too similar to Hoyo games "but better". This will never end unless Kuro makes something that isnt way too similar to Hoyo games. Timeline: 2014 - Gun Girls Z (Hoyo 2D chibi fighting side scroller) 2016 - Twin Tails Battleground (Kuro 2D chibi fighting side scroller) 2016 - Honkai Impact 3rd (Hoyo 3D Action RPG with stage based content) 2019 - PGR (Kuro 3D Action RPG with stage based content) 2020 - Genshin (Hoyo Open World RPG) 2024 - WuWa (Kuro Open World RPG) 2023 - Honkai Star Rail (Turned Based Game) 2025/2026 - HSR expy from Kuro themselves In conclusion, this will never end. This discourse is most likely intended by Kuro's management team.
@@cheezekeyk377 meh i don't care, if i enjoy the game it's good. I tried hi3rd and i don't like(hub and other thing) but u like pgr for the combat. Same with wuwa, people just like combat of wuwa. Edit : you forget aether gazer but it's not kuro then it's good i guess 😂 For open world, you forget botw and tof but it's not kuro then it's good too
@@KingIsAlreadyUse i did not forget to add them. The discourse is about why this "war" happens between hoyo fans and wuwa fans. Any other games outside the developers are irrelevant.
Imagine ZZZ x Wuwa Collab. People who hate WUWA and people who hate genshin impact reaction be like : 💀🤯. I am definitely seeing a combine fusion hate on ZZZ .(Which they get from hoyoverse already).
As a Wuwa and PGR enjoyer, I'm not mad at this as long as there's no toxic "who had it first sh*t". Nothings original anymore. As long as it's just some funny healthy comparisons, it's all fine😌
Good to see someone here noticed that as well - I have to admit, I'm pleasantly surprised. Most mobile game discussion groups don't have players decently versed on non-mobile games.
That's true unfortunately, it's quite hard to find people who also play non-gacha games in mobile game communities these days-- I guess a lot of players who do prefer chatting with friends most of the time instead of participating in discussion groups outside their circle
as a kurobot myself nothing is original already, this kind of design is common. I wouldnt call it copying. They just look similar, that's it. Good designs btw. Love zzz and wuwa.
While its probably an INSANE coincidence giving the time of development for that kind of stuff, Its kinda crazy how similar they look. Thats what I call Gacha hivemind lmfao
Good to see someone here noticed that as well - I have to admit, I'm pleasantly surprised. Most mobile game discussion groups don't have players decently versed on non-mobile games.
Community fighting
ZZZ: Can I make your NPC playable
Wuwa: meh, ok
Kuro 🗑️
It's an advertising strat by Hoyo. Now Wuwa players are forced to play ZZZ to get playable version XD
EZ ZZZ welcomes wuwa players with open arms
I am on it I will download today
Just enjoy the games
@@al8704i think most wuwa players arealdy pair it with either hsr or zzz lol
Even from hoyo, but we love both wuwa/zzz so WHY NOT XD
Oh boy can't wait to read all the civil comments and I'm not even gonna say anything cuz there is a leaked character in wuwa that is probably gonna be compared to an hsr character but we will see
Which one? I thought we will only have the rinascita cast this year
@@SHESAIDHESAIDONTHESEASHORE ye rinascita cast isn't over yet and I'm talking about cantarella
i mean bruh people already compared Phoebe with Navia and Fenrico with Sunday despite no resemblance at all, so it will mostly just bullshit 💀💀
@@a4arick106 don't forget the shorekeeper, Just because she uses a veil, Apparently hoyo invented veils.
U mean cantarella? I'm waiting them to compare her with that perfumer in genshin
Surprisingly, WuWa players seem okay with us ZZZ players.
They're only toxic towards genshin players
@@Dazaiburger i think its the opposite
@Lex_xander1 it's unfortunately both ways, ehn-na. So much so they're now called Complaint Impact vs Comparing Waves, ehn-na. The difference is WUWA players are allowed to talk about ZZZ without getting crucified, unlike GI players that were the first to blast ZZZ, ehn-na.
@@majesticchocolaterabbit4918 toxic gi players need serious help😭
Me as the enjoyer of both ZZZ and Wuwa…
Imagine this is a teaser for collabs between ZZZ x Wuwa
ZZZ has this method of dropping small crumbs so this could be a possibility.
it's gonna cause ww3 😭
zzz devs : you know what, fuck it we ball. zzz x wuwa collab
genshin devs : idk what are we doing, here's 0.5 primo so you can pay us even more
@@T-pp1xc You're onto something
Why would they collab with a company whose one of the shareholders is tencent?
I was thinking it was just a coincidence but that umbrella sold it 💀
Those victorian outfits stereotypically have said women walking around with an umbrella
@@drexbrightbladeWhat took me out was the same colour palette. I think maybe its a coincidence but I also think that would be a stretch
@@SHESAIDHESAIDONTHESEASHORE what took me out was the head accessory + hair length + hair color
Yeah. The coloring, along with the same accessories, is pretty suspect.
@ This kind of hair accessory is very common with this style of outfit. It's a Victorian dress with a laced bonnet that often stereotypically has women walking around with a laced parasol, like the two of them have.
Type in google "Atelier Sophie Pamela". You'll see a character with a near identical appearance as these two, and this character has been around for ages. There are other characters as well that have a similar appearance as these two
The Wuwa NPC is holding a cane and not an umbrella. Its very thin to be an umbrella. You can also see the tip of it having something like a bulge. Usually rubber paddings you see on canes.
Is it a cane? It looks like a perfume bottle or a fancy kettle to me.
Here we go again, I hope people will not accuse wuwa or zzz of plagiarism. Because in case some people didn't know, character designs aren't made in a week. They take months especially with the amount of details (and if they are playable). So it is just a coincidence, this style isn't new
But I love both of the design they are really pretty especially with the umbrella
True, and it gets even crazier when you remember that one Emilie concept art for genshin
ZZZ BE MAKING that character for gacha but wuwa makes it an npc damn
Kuro build diff
kuro do the evolution it seems
I mean, they literally made the most generic office lady looking design *cough cough yanagi playable
meanwhile npc in WuWa is better than almost Genshin playable char
@@Kuryou_Ka Zenless NPCs are way better than both
Close enough, Welcome Koseki Biboo
Omg a wild pebbles? Right here ?
@mareizia YESS
Lmao encountered a random pebble 🗿
81800 mentioned in a zzz and wuwa vid?
Nobody escapes the Biboo tax
Plot Twist:
Wuwa and ZZZ has a collab
Hoyo and Kuro have been 5 steps ahead , they intentionally drove the Gacha community to war in order to increase the sales of both companies
I don't want kuro fandom get tained by those gooner gamers
@@VerrGoldett Said the Gathering Wives player. Jeez people like you are what foment these community wars to begin with.
@@VerrGoldett
Uhhhhh yeah...... Idk about that one
Kuro and Hoyo 🤝 Nikocado Avocado
Two Steps Ahead 😂
both look great IMO and neither of these games invented this style
Yep, this is just an indication that both places have an inter dimensional visitor from Harajuku. 😁
I know, but looking back to the early days when alot of people accusing kuro copying Black swan with Shoorekeeper, I can see this is would be their opportunity to fight back.
They would do it if they had a chance.
@@noobscoopsies1100 exactly
Zzz’s 1.5 teaser was on January 10th while wuwa 2.0 released on January 3rd and the teaser obviously being worked like 2 to 1 week before hand can zzz really cook up a character that is very similar to the npc in that short amount of time definitely not and to be fair their design isnt even unique almost every gacha game has a character with like a sheep herder style so its all a coincidence
with that much similarity in color scheme? i doubt it.. well you can assume however you want tho in the end it's assumption.. tho i'm fine with it but yea just saying that was assumption
@@kayyam9959search « vampire anime girl » and see what happen… its not plagia is just a normal vampire like people see them in anime
title: "HOYO JUST COPIED WUTHERING WAVES 😭"
Pamela Ibis: AM I A FKING JOKE FOR YOU?!
Lmao, I guess only Atelier fans knows about her. By the way, my favourite is the Mana Khemia version.
What's that
@@ragnaxbloodedge me too
Even Lampylumen Myriad notices it
Wuthering Waves 🤝 Zenless Zone Zero
This reminds me situation of OLD Capcom vs SNK banters, where both "steal" designs from each other, but mostly for mocking.
This internet era however make conflict worse
The worst thing is that people who, because someone came out with days, don't have enough for a week, start fighting, forgetting that it takes time to develop.
As a WuWa and ZZZ player, this is a ✨blessing✨
It is a gift!..A gift to the foes of Genshin!..👌😈
U know how characters become playable right? Like they probably have her design several months ago...
Yea but design can be changed pretty fast as long as you have the full design of what you want to create lol
@@christiabayu3325 rigging, adjusting textures, making sure there's no clipping in the animation, motion adjustments - yeah, no, these things don't just get quickly adjusted in that kind of time frame. It takes quite a bit of time
@@drexbrightblade with how much money Hoyo is making, anything is possible
bros coping hard, anyways lets say that ur right (lol) . zzz can only design a char that looks like a npc in wuwa, just saying. its pretty obv they prob took some design from wuwa
There’s always going to be look a like characters in different games lol
True. That color pallette is also common, if not overused😅
If she’s any connection to hugo vlad the vampire i would say its more like “Katya bloodsucker of the night “ from shadowverse. But we’ll see clearer from her drip marketing
The kicker for me is that both look like Pamela from the Atelier games
yeah, too bad not everyone knows about her.
For what I know
Creating characters take time
They can’t just design it in a month
They are just revealed
Which means both of those characters are taken someone else for inspiration
Hard for this comment section to not get the joke.
Yeah the colours and outfit look the same but both must be conceived through rigorous character designs before being released for the public.
Learn how character process works.
It’s the meme where two guys are sharing brain waves
If I remember correctly, that character had already been teased before in the form of a silhouette in some side mission-they didn't necessarily copy Rosemary! I just wanna keep things fair
Of course you'll say that.
Wuthering... WHAT?! CATHY?! HEED MY CALL, WUTHERING HEIGHTS! OH DULLAHAN!!!
Wuwa players: Kuro please, make this npc playable!
ZZZ devs: We listened!
😂
Kuro is listening but she's not gonna be the the one that's playable it's gonna be her sister
BAHAHAHA
I thought I was seeing things but then I saw them side by side and I was like "yk what nevermind, I was wrong"
Divided by companies, united by pretty purple lady
They are so pretty 💜
Can't wait for the invisible mask lady in Rinascita to be released in the 2.0 ZZZ patch.
Chat, is this my sign to install zzz again?
0:16 what? LampyLumen Myriad? 😂
DEV(from another game) LISTENED and made peak playable
Lol more like stealing design from other game company
@@christiabayu3325 yall so delusional bro how could they have created the character within days and then plopped her in the trailer
@ WuWa fans are now turning into genshin fans with this sort of behavior lol💀
Lol hoyotard always blame kuro for stealing now the evidence here and they are quite
@@christophealexander3262evidence of 6 days difference? sure
Fact that everyone knows: both Kuro and Hoyo are from China, the paradise of copying :)
Well, i suggest to everyone wait Cantarella's appearance in Wuthering Waves, she looks quite similar to that npc, but more elegant and with very mommy vibes :)
At this point people were more focused on her than the whole trailer itself😭
And now we wait for Cantarella to be released she's also a part of fisalia family like Rosemary
why is EN community has this dogshit wuwa VS hoyo war? same shit happened in CN community
one day it will end... I hope
Kuro has like this unsaid mission where they make games that are way too similar to Hoyo games "but better". This will never end unless Kuro makes something that isnt way too similar to Hoyo games.
Timeline:
2014 - Gun Girls Z (Hoyo 2D chibi fighting side scroller)
2016 - Twin Tails Battleground (Kuro 2D chibi fighting side scroller)
2016 - Honkai Impact 3rd (Hoyo 3D Action RPG with stage based content)
2019 - PGR (Kuro 3D Action RPG with stage based content)
2020 - Genshin (Hoyo Open World RPG)
2024 - WuWa (Kuro Open World RPG)
2023 - Honkai Star Rail (Turned Based Game)
2025/2026 - HSR expy from Kuro themselves
In conclusion, this will never end. This discourse is most likely intended by Kuro's management team.
@@cheezekeyk377 meh i don't care, if i enjoy the game it's good. I tried hi3rd and i don't like(hub and other thing) but u like pgr for the combat. Same with wuwa, people just like combat of wuwa.
Edit : you forget aether gazer but it's not kuro then it's good i guess 😂
For open world, you forget botw and tof but it's not kuro then it's good too
@@KingIsAlreadyUse i did not forget to add them. The discourse is about why this "war" happens between hoyo fans and wuwa fans. Any other games outside the developers are irrelevant.
its only from the hoyoshit players, we wuwa players speak fact while they keep coping
Collab 😂❤
These Gachas can easily work together (WuWa, HSR, & ZZZ)
She got Isekai'd 😭
Kuro didnt get the memo that NPCs arent allowed to have drip
That NPC Is Gorgeous. ❤
wethering what now?
ITS THE SAME DAMN THING😭😭
Imagine ZZZ x Wuwa Collab.
People who hate WUWA and people who hate genshin impact reaction be like : 💀🤯.
I am definitely seeing a combine fusion hate on ZZZ .(Which they get from hoyoverse already).
It literally just looks like Black Swan and The Herta combined
hoyo: WE MUST BE THE FIRST OE. TO RELEASE A PURPLE HAIRED CHARACTER!!!!
wuwa: not arguing
to be fair, hoyo had that art concept for years... its the og concept for one of genshin characters that got changed
I feel like if we saw the zzz girl before that wuwa npc people would've said wuwa copied zzz and it would've become another drama
Nah by their logic wuwa is the copycat no matter who comes fisrt
I say just let people enjoy the games they play, especially if it isn't even an issue.
As a resident Kurobot, go ahead. We like ZZZ.
ZZZ 🤝 WuWa
me who played both : 🍿🍿
I saw this on zzz and was like "wtf rosemary your in the wrong game lmao"
As a Wuwa and PGR enjoyer, I'm not mad at this as long as there's no toxic "who had it first sh*t". Nothings original anymore. As long as it's just some funny healthy comparisons, it's all fine😌
Rosemary is actually going to be a Playable character in the future according to leakers, she's a havoc attribute
I'm hardly thinking about playing ZZZ to test if i like it...i really DON'T like Hoyoverse but...idk, why not?...I THINK I'LL TRY
Now that's a wild statement to make as if hoyo wasn't making games before kuro
Pamela from Atelier 😔
Good to see someone here noticed that as well - I have to admit, I'm pleasantly surprised. Most mobile game discussion groups don't have players decently versed on non-mobile games.
That's true unfortunately, it's quite hard to find people who also play non-gacha games in mobile game communities these days-- I guess a lot of players who do prefer chatting with friends most of the time instead of participating in discussion groups outside their circle
Oh yeah, that's why Rosemary seems familiar, she looks like Pamea Ibis.
Purple and umbrella is the most commonly used combination in anime theme character
But honestly though, WuWa is too great. Their NPC's look like playable characters 💀♥️
She looks nothing like her its just the hair color 💀
Rosemary being playable sounds nice, lady deserves to be playable. She's too hot to become an NPC and part of the Fisalia family
Bro I was literally thinking she looked like a character that could be in Wuwa I didn’t she actually was 😭. Just started playing Carlotta FTW.
i will thank zzz for doing this absolutely love these 2 games
Her design looks so good for NPC though
They just both took the design of Pamela Ibis from atelier series
Number one Wuwa glazer right over here:
Ain't that apothecary just keqing with a new outfit /j
Its overshadowing a collab maybe?
She was visiting
ZZZ community and WuWa community are at good relationship. Only Genshills don't want to
I wish wuwa would release her as playable too so I could have them if both games!
what if its a collab hint :p
well, we want her playable, so here she is, even if its another game. wuwa and zzz are my two gacha games, so all good XD
as a kurobot myself nothing is original already, this kind of design is common. I wouldnt call it copying. They just look similar, that's it. Good designs btw. Love zzz and wuwa.
Yall forgetting Limbus Company did it first with Dulcinea
Are we forgetting the time hoyo stole the entire design of Gallagher and didnt even try hiding it?
Damn that might mean they didn't steal it
I didn't know that Wuwa invented gothic lolita designs? A Chinese company copies a Chinese company, yes, nothing new...
Imagining this they would do collab with one another, just like minecraft and terraria. That would be so cool
I bet someone played wuwa form their zzz team and said why not put this in our just to stare at her.
I mean, if wuwa is copying from GI and other hoyoverse games, I'm pretty sure Hoyo's probably like, "OK, OUR TURN!".
Damn playing wuwa since day 1 also gave them alot of reasons to make those npcs playable but im proud my girl is playable in somewhere else
OH NO A PURPLE CHARACTER CRAZY NO WAY
wuthering? like wuthering heights?
Oh~~ Round and Round we go~~
Both have great characters, whats the issue in copying from one another?
Vivian is a vampire.. and looks better..
こんなモデルに力が入ってる子がNPCって鳴潮やばすぎんか
Gothic lolita is a anime waifu of choice for some. All anime waifu collectors must have one.
While its probably an INSANE coincidence giving the time of development for that kind of stuff, Its kinda crazy how similar they look. Thats what I call Gacha hivemind lmfao
I mean not really I can find multiple similar looking women in anime.
Both just copied Pamela Ibis from Atelier lol
Good to see someone here noticed that as well - I have to admit, I'm pleasantly surprised. Most mobile game discussion groups don't have players decently versed on non-mobile games.
When an npc really looks like a playable character
If it isn't Sweet my fav restaurant owner
Reminds me of Pamela from the Atelier series 😅
Honestly it’s just the same colour palette in my opinion but I honestly don’t even care it’s just a game bro😑🥱
put that aside, that was big as umberlla, more like parasole to me lol
No way, Rosemary can travel multiverse