Xidax is offering Science Studio viewers a 5% discount if any of you are interested in purchasing a pre-built from them. Just use code "sciencestudio" at checkout. This brings down the % mark-ups at 16:39 from 17.5 to 11.5 and from 11.5 to 5 - depending on how you calculate the price of Windows 10.
The reason I don't buy pre-builds anymore isn't the price. But a couple events that happen to my friends who did buy pre-build systems. They where pretty much ripped off, where the worst of them got a pc with a motherboard that was no longer being made, so he couldnt replace it and use the rest of the hardware in it, and it broke the same day he got it, he installed CS and the hardware broke :/
Yeah i call bullshit. For the proce you can build a better pc. Prebuillt pcs are crap. I guarantee that the PC you got because you have 500,000 subscribers is not the PC in normal person is going to get. They will take extra care with your PC it won't with anybody else's. On top of that customer service for pre-built PCS is notoriously bad. Just go through RUclips just go through RUclips for a couple of minutes and you'll see tons of videos of people complaining about how bad these PCS are. The only ones that seem to ever have anything nice to say or ones that are going to be earning money off of it like you who I'm sure they gave you the PC or going to give you a profit from the clicks from the link in your description. Yeah sure it looks okay I'll admit but I don't trust them. And if anybody does or just most likely going to get ripped off
@@HollowWeird it's true that if i'm running a business, like it or not i'm going to take extra care servicing a customer who can have such a profound influence on so many consumers' perception of my business. you don't get that many opportunities to put in just a little extra work to get such a big reward. it's just basic cost/benefit. it doesn't mean i'm doing shit work for everyone else, it just means i'm not treating them the same way i'm treating the big youtube reviewer who essentially has the power to singlehandedly kill or grow my business. so even if they do a great job for everyone else it's still hard to trust reviews unless they explicitly say that they bought it through normal channels and perhaps even used a fake name or a middleman to make damn sure the business never knew it was going to be reviewed in the first place.
I don't think a $1750 should have an RX590, it's a terrible price/performance right now, it's around $275 when you can get a RX570 8GB as low as $150 or a GTX1660ti for $280.
Yes, but the extra price was spent on cable extensions, the glass decals, windows 10 license (legit cuz they are running a legit business), the boat-load of be-quiet fans; $105 in fans, and labor for the 2-3 people putting it together, an 11% markup is not bad. Dell, HP, cyberpowerPC, or iBuyPowerPC are way worse in terms of price tag and quality parts. I sorry but it's gotta look clean asthetic or be an RGB beast to sell to non PC enthusiasts They, buyers value: the look of the case the RGB lighting the processor the GPU and the amount of RAM. They do not care about what motherboard you use, they don't care what PSU is in there, they don't care what or how many fans you use, they don't care how many drives there are (they might as how big is the C-drive), they don't care if you are using the the stock Intel/ AMD cooler or a 240mm AIO, they don't care what model of GPU heatsink is being used (they know they need an Nvidia 1060, 1070, or 1080) wether it's an MSI Armor heatsink or EVGA kingpin copper edition or MSI lightning edition or gigabyte Windforce2x cooler or a Sapphire Trixxx Nitro+++ OC edition, they don't care about extras like custom sleeved cables, and they don't care about airflow in the case as long as it's a tempered glass coffin that looks nice.
I just got a xidax pre built with a AMD 7 3800x and a 2080 super. Couldn't be happier with it and the guys I dealt with were absolutely awesome. Great peoples and product overall imo
I've been building PC's since the release of the Pentium processor and pretty much got fed up with buying individual parts and then piecing them together and then Cable Management etc etc the list goes on so about three years ago I purchased a computer from xidax and I'll be honest with you I was terrified and I received the system this was 2016 and I was blown away at the quality of the system yes it was expensive but none the less it was a pleasant experience I got everything I asked for and then some and decided to purchase from them again in 2019 these guys are top-notch they care about what they're doing and they do it with the utmost quality as if you were I were building our system...
@Sood's debatable. you're getting all the parts at close to retail or the lowest price you can pay online. I've literally checked this service half a dozen times. The only difference is the 99 dollar service fee and the cost of windows. Doubt a local retailer is going to be doing much better and you don't get same type of service/turn around. For a tech noob friend, it's well within reason and cost... you won't do much better without DIYing it.
@Sood's do you even read? literally just said recommended for less tech inclined friends who don't know how to don't want to build their own system. the nzxt service is reasonably priced for that sole purpose. OF COURSE.. someone could get better value if they could or do it themselves. You're totally missing the point.
@Sood's completely over your head you sound like a real dumb fuck. Some people dont have the time to build a pc dealing with irl stuff. Maybe grandpa wants to buy his grand kid a pc but doesnt know how to build one or parents that don't either. Sometimes spending another 100 or so is worth it why does it matter to you just stfu and DIY attitude entitled little prick. Nothing like a good keyboard warrior in the morning.
I demand a towercooler instead of the AIO and I demand proper ventilation. And that is why we 'enthusiasts' assemble our own system, we just know hardware too well to settle for anything less than how we like it best. However, I like it that they use Ryzen, an AMD graphics card and fast RAM. Kudos for that.
@@HAHA.GoodMeme "good AIO", there is my objection against an AIO in my system. An AIO of $80-150 is not really better than a tower cooler, the more expensive AIO's with 240/280 mm radiators can cool a bit better but it also gives more noise than a tower cooler and with a sustained load the temperatures of those AIO's get comparable to those with a towercooler because the fluid in the AIO warms up. Science Studio has done a video on that. When you use a 360 mm. radiator the AIO will probably win but then you pay a lot. Tower coolers have a comparable heat dissipation but cost less, make less noise and are safer. There is no pump so no pump failure and no noise from a pump. This is one of those cases where the engineering principe KISS applies. Keep It Simple, Stupid. Sure, if you make a custom waterloop then you get supreme cooling and if you use good radiators with silent fans on top of that then you get a great setup with supreme cooling and little noise, but it is expensive and it requires a lot of maintenance. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless when the person enjoys maintaining that custom loop. But, if you use that much electrical power then you overclock at a point where you get very little added performance for a lot of electrical power, I don't like that anyway, I don't mind some overclocking (certainly for older hardware) but it has to be somewhat sensible for me. Of course, if you use a tower cooler then you need a case which is larger, for me that is not an issue because I do not put the computercase on the desk.
I have been a Xidax customer for several years. Customer service is a nightmare. There are multiple reasons. For one thing, I get passed around to different representatives which creates unnecessary risk that they will get my order wrong. Half the time, then don't even acknowledge email inquiries; and their projected delivery dates for orders are way off. On my most recent upgrade, the workmanship was shoddy. But, I was able to fix things without having to return my PC to Xidax for them to fix their error. I have no basis of comparing Xidax to their competitors. So for all I know, it could be as frustrating dealing with Xidax competitors as it is frustrating to deal with Xidax. Whether Xidax marks-up prices on components does not bother me because Xidax is entitled to earn a profit because charging more than what something costs is how every manufacturer earns a living. One reason that I stay with Xidax, in spite of it, is because Xidax employees are more knowledgeable than any sales person who you ever would talk to in a retail store such as Best Buy.
Please try to differentiate between m.2 (form factor) and NVME (protocol) when you mention how fast the boot drive is. This already confuses so many people who believe that buying "m.2" = max speed (whereas SATA m.2 is no faster than a standard 2.5in SATA SSD). Sorry for the nitpick, but this one matters. I know what you mean, but some people won't. Gotta look out for the new builders to make sure they don't inadvertently rip themselves off! :)
Yeah I’ve seen people think they have a good M.2 and then break to them they paid more for just a mini SATA when the pricing is probably not that far apart cost wise. As well as having a huge hard drive cage in the middle of the build with “one” lonely hdd. At least they put in 1-2 tb of storage.
@STS Tech his last video about being threatened with a lawsuit is about the owner of Grace computers (Dustin Ellenwood) he has a criminal history and if you're following Greg's Twitter a bit is uncovered in the tweets and replies.
@STS Tech sciense studio made a video on grace company and they had a pc for sale and ofc he criticize the price and the owner replied with "take down the video or we will sue"
@STS Tech you obviously have never built a custom Hardline PC if u think PCs don't cost 6k. My rig w 9900k and 2080ti was over 4k and that's a single GPU, only 250gb m.2 and 1tb ssd. You add a HEDT platform and chip and a SLI setup you can easily approach 5 figures. Not to mention I built the rig myself so there was no cost for assembly. Paying someone to build a custom, high end and water cooled rig demands a premium.
Just bought a custom built Xidax x-6 frame with the I9-10900k, nvidia rtx 3070, a deepcool castle 360ex 360mm liquid cooler, and a few other top notch specs.
It would be fun to see prebuilt systems that comes to you in all of the pieces that you put together yourself with the lower costs for components that companies like Xidax and other such companies can.
Just finished my new build tonight and it's way better than that pre-build for alot less thanks to all the deals newegg constantly has and some parts from Amazon
you can easily mod your PC case from a place like v1tech. You can buy custom cable extensions for your whole PC for less than $30. Xidax isn't a good deal.
Just ordered my first PC with Xidax cause they have a lifetime warranty and you're able to trade in your current Xidax system towards a new one so I think it is worth it
@@compajuan014 it runs great, I have had no issues whatsoever with it and been running all my games smoothly. It was packaged perfectly and was very easy to set up
@@Drone732 oh ok well that's good as I said I'm new to the PC world and prebuilt and don't know if they're trust worthy especially since they're in Utah and I'm in Cali but yeah I'm trying to see if they can make me a crpto mining rig but also able to use it as a gaming PC or for work but mainly as a mining rig I reached out to an agent and he helped me to start up a build and affordable but what's the difference in the different models? He started me up on the cheapest model and are all their mother boards only able to put in 1-2 GPU's?
This review was well documented and gives me a good idea of what you can get for a pre-built system for less the 2K. That said building a new system yourself gives you a lot of satisfaction. (Take note CH, this review is rant & coke free! )
For an extra $100 A lifetime warranty would be pretty great for buyers that may not be so technically inclined I think. BLD is cool for people that know what they want but maybe aren't confident or just don't have the time to build themselves.
Lee Adkins I do now how to build PC’s but the bld has been nothing but a great experience. Only thing you have to pay is $99 build and $50 ship. With two warranty for every single part
its more about the hassle with parts warranties and the time to assemble and reassemble that give prebuilts value. youre right, building a pc is easy, but takes hours id rather be doing other things with
Hey, great video. I enjoy these types of vids- as I too do comparison shopping. I see no reason to excessively spend hundreds of dollars for someone building it for me. I do agree with some shops have better prebuilt deals - I'd consider such an option(again, based on the price differential). I guess the exyended warranty is a factor often overlooked by builders.....
Decent cable management and not cheaping out on parts such as PSU, SSD and RAM is important to me. Often these pre built system might have a decent CPU and GPU as that's the first thing people check out, and then save money on everything else.
With the custom builds I sell, I never charge more than $150 markup for any client, and I always try to get parts on sale. I haven't seen the prices of any pre-builts accurately reflect how much cheaper the parts are for SIs. The Xidax pre-built had a rough markup of 18% over retail, but one can easily infer that they got all the parts for $100+ less than retail. I don't think enough people take that into account when looking at a pre-built system. When buying anything, it's important for buyers to consider how much is being put into the product they're buying. If you're paying an extra $200+ over retail on a machine that a company payed way less on, and had to only put in 2 hours of work to build and setup, you're getting pretty heavily ripped off. Same goes for NZXT's "competitive" prices. They're literally right next to a warehouse that they constantly get components from. No shipping or handling costs, immediate bulk prices, and no wait times for shipments to come in. And yet they still overcharge customers. I really don't think these SIs and large scale system builders should be supported when they try to do as much as they can to pretend that they're giving customers a good deal.
I put together a 8700K based system for $900 that scored exactly the same Fire Strike score of 14'000. but I was using a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 8GB OC (1411) basically a RX 580. I guess that shows hiw much an intel chip can help a GPU. about a 10to15% difference.
There are some really good prebuilt PCs available & some really bad ones too, but like any product you need to do some research on price to quality & performance, I think Xidax has done a good job with this one as far as build quality but as you said for performance price could be a bit better
You can't customize their prebuilds or else it breaks their warranty. So, if you want to change anything, such as the "Xidax Extreme DDR4 2666MHz Memory" to G-Skill through their own menu before checkout, you do that breaking that warranty. Most ppl probably wont even read their warranty details and will end up changing something.
Just ordered a Xidax. According to Julian, one of their sales reps, the warranty only applies to the PC and parts they send. I was told that I could go out and buy more ram and install it per instructions, and it would not void the warranty. However the warranty would not extend to the new parts.
Nice on the knowledge your helping people understand researching a pre-built and what they will get...my 1st gaming pc was an ibuypower ..had shipped to Wal-Mart and picked it up...was a nzxt case with Asus b350 mb...8g adata ram...600w antec power supply...ryzen 7 1700x...msi gtx 1070 8g ddr5 graphics card ...a 240g ssd not sure brand..a 1 tb hdd...rgb light strip at top .. 2 nzxt case fans 1front ,1back..I intentionally took a loss on ram to get it for 1446$ I later added 16g ram totalling to 24...put and cooler from my new 2700x on the 1700x added 2x thermaltake ring fans in the top ...added 4port 3.0 sub in front and have the build right around 1600$ this p rebuilt is roughly 2 yrs old ...I've since did my 1st build and appreciate your vids and other tube teckies because you guys have taught me a lot ...I recently built for round 2000$ thermaltake view 31 case...Asus prime x470 pro mb with crucial 500g m.2 nvme drive for op...2x 4tb drives for games ...ryzen 7 2700x...coolermaster 240ml rad ...5coolermaster rgb case fans ...g skill 1250w power supply...2x16g g skill trident z rgb totaling 32g at 3200mhz...a gigabyte rtx 2060...was my 1st ever build ...hence putting the included amd prizm cooler on my prebuilt 1700x to help on cooling and do away with the stock cooler that was on it ...but I appreciate all the knowledge you share and helped my confidence ! Keep up the good work I'm a huge fan !! And long winded but just saying I agree ..to do the research and know what your getting for your money!! I plan to teach my 14yr old son how to build a pc one day and step up from that quad phenom with a 1050ti I gave him for his bday and teach him how to build his own one day!! Thanks man!!
Would just like to add that Xidax does not manufacture the "Xidax" coolers or RAM but puts their nameplate on them. Not saying they are bad parts, but Xidax does not manufacture them in-house to my knowledge.
There are some pre-builts that offer an incredible value. I don't see the problem getting one these days if you just don't want to build your own. Sure, it's usually always cheaper to do it yourself but I get it if you're lazy and want some super clean cable management.
M.2 is a form factor so you're not going guaranteed to see a speed boost from SSD(2.5in drive) to M.2 but rather SATA to NVMe (there are SATA M.2 slots on some motherboards) I'm sure you know this so just clarification for people that may not realise.
So glad I looked at this review! Just bought one a couple days ago it’s coming in 2 weeks :) Xidax is one of the best prebuilt companies in 2019 for sure
Great channel. Sorry to bring another subject. Could you clarify why you did once recommend not using a big wattage power supply for relatively modest wattage systems. It seems to be safe to oversize the capacity of the current source. The bigger PSU too be less noisy running at low power.
If they use those Pure Wings in each build, they'll get a humongous discount on them for sure. Similar for the RGB, they'll have paid no more than a tenner max netto per build
I bought a prebuilt back in 2016 for $780 and I have yet to upgrade a single thing to it and Amy game I play runs a smooth 60-110 fps. So it boils down to what you buy in a prebuilt package obviously
Imho too much of the budget was spent making the system look good. It looks fantastic but I would rather spend more on a high quality monitor and gpu for outstanding picture quality which i will be spending hours and hours staring at, instead of a pretty box I won’t hardly look at after finding the power button
I don't really have anything against pre-built computers, I just think it's more fun to put mine together myself. Building a PC and then turning it on and playing a game on it at a really nice framerate is kind of... nice lol.
I think there should be a differentiation between "pre-built" systems like store brands, Dell, HP, Lenovo etc and what I would consider "Boutique" builds like this one. Some may well be pre-assembled on store shelves etc but they are built from known brand components that have been selected by someone with customer satisfaction in mind rather than simply bottom line. There are still tons of "pre-built" systems out there I wouldn't recommend to my worst enemy let alone a friend or customer, the ones that have unbranded bulk components (or brands you never heard of) and OEM GPUs that have sub standard cooling and components. Systems like the one in this video are becoming more common and I sincerely hope they do one day become the standard for pre-built systems but today, you can find utter garbage in just about any electronics store with their budget (dated) cases, unbranded cooling and bargain basement motherboards that often look as though they were made 20 years ago even though they somehow use the latest chipset. I wouldn't lump the likes of Dell, HP and Lenovo with the horrible store brands but I also wouldn't recommend them to a home user. They are for office systems, mass deployment and schools etc where you want the corporate package that includes replacement programs etc. You always pay more than the value of the specs for these systems but that is part and parcel with brand tax. To my mind these new pre-built systems are more "we built it for you" rather than what I have come to accept as a pre-built system over the years.
I personally see these "prebuilts" the same thing as a DIY - it literally is. It' just Pre-assembled, but not OEM like the title implies. It's obvious click bait, but I definitely respect this channel, and everybody does this. My issue, and I guess question is: Why do people call these as such? It's the same components you pull off the shelf, whether it be at MicroCenter or FRY's. Nothing 'OEM' or "Dell" about it.
@@GregSalazar Yeah but it's like saying 'this computer put together with the same identical parts by someone else vs. Me' - Let's compare them! LOLZ! Like, why? Windows installation procedure? Drivers? Cable management? It's so, so easy to fix if there's a problem.. I don't get the attraction or purpose of these topics. It's the same computer.
Prebuilts are not ideal, but if it’s what someone has I don’t give them a hard time about it because it’s still a pc nonetheless, and if the parts are good then it’s doing it’s job
Sometimes I wonder if I should order a good pre-built. The thought of dealing with cables, troubleshooting, sleeving cables just terrifies my lazy ass to build another pc. Especially an itx one.
Good question actually, I’m waiting to receive mine so I can find out, but they definitely should. Not too difficult of a fix incase they don’t though so 🤷🏻♂️
These days going to these companies are a little better. This was the only place I was able to find RTX3090 and Ryzen 9 series. Its insane how hard these parts are to find.
is this the spectrum light case? i saw a video on youtube from 2020 with this same case from xidax, but it had a front-mesh panel so the fans can breathe. did they change to the mesh now if you know?
I've been looking at the darkbase 900, would you recommend the 700 or the 900 more? Nothing fancy, gonna be single GPU, AIO with triple rad for the cpu, E-ATX mobo, everything else pretty standard, 1 boot/most used stuff SSD and 1 storage HDD.
Here is my issue of pre-built machines: Most of them come from places like HP, Dell, Walmart (God forbid) etc. these are not PCs that are built with the same motherboards, cases, and power supplies that we buy for our custom machines. These OEM builders have proprietary cases and motherboards that are only compatible with each other. Try to take a Dell machine and put it in a be quiet! case? Not gonna work. Not to mention, that motherboard will have a barely passable VRM, holding back your processor’s potential. Also, the cooler will also be something build by the OEM vendor: something cheap and likely ineffective. This machine in this video is an exception to usual prebuilt machines. When regular consumers go to buy a computer, they aren’t looking at Xidax or NZXT. They are looking at HP or Dell.
do the top case fans blow air into case or out of case. Sorry if this is a silly question. also am I correct in assuming the radiator fans pull air into case?
He’s sponsored by them... They want him to say things good about it, he won’t be completely honest if he wants to keep his sponsor... See where I’m goin?!?
i have this case how do u open the front, be trying for years now lmao. nothing found online bc of how xidax markets their cases, finally found out it was a bitfinex, they replaced it w a X, for xidax.. but yea how do you open it, i want better cooling, it sucks closed
why you lie xidax is way less priced for me it's1786.05 at xidax with water cooling and everything else the same and at nzxt it was 1900 with air cooling.
does BLD just not charge you for cooling? pretty weird that's not included in the price cause it can get pretty expensive. like BLD listed all the components of the price and it adds up to the end price. whereas the other company included everything down to the thermal paste and we saw the fans and the water cooler would add up to a bit less than $200? so do BLD computers just have really shitty cheap fans that they get a huge discount on, or am i missing something
just picked up a system with a 2080ti Zotac and i9-9900k total out the door was 2200, came out cheaper to buy pre built and take apart for the parts inside
right? I'm dropping $1800 on a rig where I went a little Rgb and ram excessive, and it runs most triple A titles at 1440 minimum @95+ fps. On top of that, if I were to purchase my rig through NZXT (where I wanted to get it from, before deciding to build my own), I'm saving well over $300 and I have more freedom for better parts
2500$ for my prebuild. I could game at a higher res. but high fps 130-170 @ max graphics is amazing. alienware monitor helps alot. i dont find the screen to be blurry at 1080p at all.
@@GregSalazar I got the rtx 2080 from them and they ran out of the free game codes and when this months codes came out they gave it to me. Which came with an extra game. I love them
@@okwhateverlol1983 Larger companies get wholesale sale discounts. Companies needs to make a profit. Smaller companies are not telsa, and have all these investors throwing money at your company and watching it burn.
Still cheaper than Grace Computer's $6000 build! But its not a beautiful as my Verge build from last year. That was truly a masterpiece. We were contacted by the Vatican because it is currently on display in the Sistine Chapel. The Pope says it rivals Michelangelo's artwork and deserves to have a home there.
@gray pierre the question itself is somewhat irrelevant really - the value of a mass produced object is not defined by a single users purchase. But I built my own, with more performance by a significant margin, and for 520 bucks less. As for prebuilt machines (so it's an apples to apples comparison), if you're interested in the best bang for your buck, I'd recommend checking out EKWB's systems. Their cheapest machine is higher performing than this xidax and for 400 bucks less than it at that.
Xidax is offering Science Studio viewers a 5% discount if any of you are interested in purchasing a pre-built from them. Just use code "sciencestudio" at checkout. This brings down the % mark-ups at 16:39 from 17.5 to 11.5 and from 11.5 to 5 - depending on how you calculate the price of Windows 10.
It was well-packaged, which is why I didn't mention it. Figured it was implied :-) I'll be sure to bring that up next time!
The reason I don't buy pre-builds anymore isn't the price. But a couple events that happen to my friends who did buy pre-build systems. They where pretty much ripped off, where the worst of them got a pc with a motherboard that was no longer being made, so he couldnt replace it and use the rest of the hardware in it, and it broke the same day he got it, he installed CS and the hardware broke :/
Yeah i call bullshit. For the proce you can build a better pc. Prebuillt pcs are crap. I guarantee that the PC you got because you have 500,000 subscribers is not the PC in normal person is going to get. They will take extra care with your PC it won't with anybody else's. On top of that customer service for pre-built PCS is notoriously bad. Just go through RUclips just go through RUclips for a couple of minutes and you'll see tons of videos of people complaining about how bad these PCS are. The only ones that seem to ever have anything nice to say or ones that are going to be earning money off of it like you who I'm sure they gave you the PC or going to give you a profit from the clicks from the link in your description. Yeah sure it looks okay I'll admit but I don't trust them. And if anybody does or just most likely going to get ripped off
@@HollowWeird it's true that if i'm running a business, like it or not i'm going to take extra care servicing a customer who can have such a profound influence on so many consumers' perception of my business. you don't get that many opportunities to put in just a little extra work to get such a big reward. it's just basic cost/benefit. it doesn't mean i'm doing shit work for everyone else, it just means i'm not treating them the same way i'm treating the big youtube reviewer who essentially has the power to singlehandedly kill or grow my business. so even if they do a great job for everyone else it's still hard to trust reviews unless they explicitly say that they bought it through normal channels and perhaps even used a fake name or a middleman to make damn sure the business never knew it was going to be reviewed in the first place.
Yo slide me a pc man;)
I'm primarily a laptop user but here I am. Love these videos.
Thanks for watching!
same. traveling job makes desktops pointless. but im a nerd so this is still good
Xidax also offers a lifetime warranty on everything except AMD video cards, that's pretty huge too. That's definitely worth some markup.
I don't think a $1750 should have an RX590, it's a terrible price/performance right now, it's around $275 when you can get a RX570 8GB as low as $150 or a GTX1660ti for $280.
rx 590's are $220 on newegg www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814930011&Description=rx%20590&cm_re=rx_590-_-14-930-011-_-Product
Yeah Im planning on getting an RTX 2070 build w/ Ryzen 7 2700, still less than 1500... That's kinda overpriced
@@gu3z185 I have rtx 2070 with ryzen 5 2600x and it's great your ryzen 2700 will be even better
570s have been hitting 130 with the amd game rewards for the past two months.
Yes, but the extra price was spent on cable extensions, the glass decals, windows 10 license (legit cuz they are running a legit business), the boat-load of be-quiet fans; $105 in fans, and labor for the 2-3 people putting it together, an 11% markup is not bad. Dell, HP, cyberpowerPC, or iBuyPowerPC are way worse in terms of price tag and quality parts.
I sorry but it's gotta look clean asthetic or be an RGB beast to sell to non PC enthusiasts
They, buyers value:
the look of the case
the RGB lighting
the processor
the GPU
and the amount of RAM.
They do not care about what motherboard you use, they don't care what PSU is in there, they don't care what or how many fans you use, they don't care how many drives there are (they might as how big is the C-drive), they don't care if you are using the the stock Intel/ AMD cooler or a 240mm AIO, they don't care what model of GPU heatsink is being used (they know they need an Nvidia 1060, 1070, or 1080) wether it's an MSI Armor heatsink or EVGA kingpin copper edition or MSI lightning edition or gigabyte Windforce2x cooler or a Sapphire Trixxx Nitro+++ OC edition, they don't care about extras like custom sleeved cables, and they don't care about airflow in the case as long as it's a tempered glass coffin that looks nice.
I just got a xidax pre built with a AMD 7 3800x and a 2080 super. Couldn't be happier with it and the guys I dealt with were absolutely awesome. Great peoples and product overall imo
How is it after 2 years?
I've been building PC's since the release of the Pentium processor and pretty much got fed up with buying individual parts and then piecing them together and then Cable Management etc etc the list goes on so about three years ago I purchased a computer from xidax and I'll be honest with you I was terrified and I received the system this was 2016 and I was blown away at the quality of the system yes it was expensive but none the less it was a pleasant experience I got everything I asked for and then some and decided to purchase from them again in 2019 these guys are top-notch they care about what they're doing and they do it with the utmost quality as if you were I were building our system...
Did you use text to speech to write this? There are no periods.
I'm not sure if I would buy the Xidax system, but I've been recommending the NZXT prebuilts to my less tech inclined friends.
@Sood's debatable. you're getting all the parts at close to retail or the lowest price you can pay online. I've literally checked this service half a dozen times. The only difference is the 99 dollar service fee and the cost of windows. Doubt a local retailer is going to be doing much better and you don't get same type of service/turn around. For a tech noob friend, it's well within reason and cost... you won't do much better without DIYing it.
@Sood's do you even read? literally just said recommended for less tech inclined friends who don't know how to don't want to build their own system. the nzxt service is reasonably priced for that sole purpose. OF COURSE.. someone could get better value if they could or do it themselves. You're totally missing the point.
@Sood's you must work for a mom and pop's retailer. thanks for participating, but you've completely missed the point.
Sood's boy stfu
@Sood's completely over your head you sound like a real dumb fuck. Some people dont have the time to build a pc dealing with irl stuff. Maybe grandpa wants to buy his grand kid a pc but doesnt know how to build one or parents that don't either. Sometimes spending another 100 or so is worth it why does it matter to you just stfu and DIY attitude entitled little prick. Nothing like a good keyboard warrior in the morning.
My one and only prebuild was an Alienware back when it WAS Alienware (not to put an age on myself or anything)
Early to mid 30's.
Nailed it
I demand a towercooler instead of the AIO and I demand proper ventilation. And that is why we 'enthusiasts' assemble our own system, we just know hardware too well to settle for anything less than how we like it best. However, I like it that they use Ryzen, an AMD graphics card and fast RAM. Kudos for that.
@@HAHA.GoodMeme
"good AIO", there is my objection against an AIO in my system. An AIO of $80-150 is not really better than a tower cooler, the more expensive AIO's with 240/280 mm radiators can cool a bit better but it also gives more noise than a tower cooler and with a sustained load the temperatures of those AIO's get comparable to those with a towercooler because the fluid in the AIO warms up. Science Studio has done a video on that.
When you use a 360 mm. radiator the AIO will probably win but then you pay a lot.
Tower coolers have a comparable heat dissipation but cost less, make less noise and are safer. There is no pump so no pump failure and no noise from a pump. This is one of those cases where the engineering principe KISS applies. Keep It Simple, Stupid.
Sure, if you make a custom waterloop then you get supreme cooling and if you use good radiators with silent fans on top of that then you get a great setup with supreme cooling and little noise, but it is expensive and it requires a lot of maintenance. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless when the person enjoys maintaining that custom loop. But, if you use that much electrical power then you overclock at a point where you get very little added performance for a lot of electrical power, I don't like that anyway, I don't mind some overclocking (certainly for older hardware) but it has to be somewhat sensible for me.
Of course, if you use a tower cooler then you need a case which is larger, for me that is not an issue because I do not put the computercase on the desk.
I love that you tested at 3440x1440p. Me and several friends have this resolution and almost no one puts up benchmarks for it. Great video.
"graphics cards are in stock for the most part now" oh you could not be more wrong sir, the past year has changed a great many things.
it didnt age well 🥲
I have been a Xidax customer for several years.
Customer service is a nightmare. There are multiple reasons.
For one thing, I get passed around to different representatives which creates unnecessary risk that they will get my order wrong.
Half the time, then don't even acknowledge email inquiries; and their projected delivery dates for orders are way off.
On my most recent upgrade, the workmanship was shoddy. But, I was able to fix things without having to return my PC to Xidax for them to fix their error.
I have no basis of comparing Xidax to their competitors. So for all I know, it could be as frustrating dealing with Xidax competitors as it is frustrating to deal with Xidax.
Whether Xidax marks-up prices on components does not bother me because Xidax is entitled to earn a profit because charging more than what something costs is how every manufacturer earns a living.
One reason that I stay with Xidax, in spite of it, is because Xidax employees are more knowledgeable than any sales person who you ever would talk to in a retail store such as Best Buy.
Please try to differentiate between m.2 (form factor) and NVME (protocol) when you mention how fast the boot drive is. This already confuses so many people who believe that buying "m.2" = max speed (whereas SATA m.2 is no faster than a standard 2.5in SATA SSD).
Sorry for the nitpick, but this one matters. I know what you mean, but some people won't. Gotta look out for the new builders to make sure they don't inadvertently rip themselves off! :)
Valid request. If ya don't look for it - it can be overlooked.
Yeah I’ve seen people think they have a good M.2 and then break to them they paid more for just a mini SATA when the pricing is probably not that far apart cost wise. As well as having a huge hard drive cage in the middle of the build with “one” lonely hdd. At least they put in 1-2 tb of storage.
For a pre built it looks really good!
It's cool they matched mobo and GPU for a more clean look!
Yea man, I just love it when my PC companies give it to me RAW!
You know prebuilt is worth it? The $6k one from grace computers!
Lmfao that degenerate's business is probably going to die soon for good
@STS Tech his last video about being threatened with a lawsuit is about the owner of Grace computers (Dustin Ellenwood) he has a criminal history and if you're following Greg's Twitter a bit is uncovered in the tweets and replies.
STS Tech BET,
@STS Tech sciense studio made a video on grace company and they had a pc for sale and ofc he criticize the price and the owner replied with "take down the video or we will sue"
@STS Tech you obviously have never built a custom Hardline PC if u think PCs don't cost 6k. My rig w 9900k and 2080ti was over 4k and that's a single GPU, only 250gb m.2 and 1tb ssd. You add a HEDT platform and chip and a SLI setup you can easily approach 5 figures. Not to mention I built the rig myself so there was no cost for assembly. Paying someone to build a custom, high end and water cooled rig demands a premium.
Just bought a custom built Xidax x-6 frame with the I9-10900k, nvidia rtx 3070, a deepcool castle 360ex 360mm liquid cooler, and a few other top notch specs.
It would be fun to see prebuilt systems that comes to you in all of the pieces that you put together yourself with the lower costs for components that companies like Xidax and other such companies can.
Alienware is going to publish a Spanish Inquisition investigation on you for this
Nobody expects a Spanish Inquisition!!
Just finished my new build tonight and it's way better than that pre-build for alot less thanks to all the deals newegg constantly has and some parts from Amazon
Good for you? I’m confused on what the purpose of your comment was
A Vega 56 would have been a killer choice for this build, one of the only things i would change.
to be honest my custom build that i'm planning comes in at 500/600 (2600x/2700x) lower with a 2070
I'm sure you could make that work if you made compromises elsewhere. That's the beauty of this industry.
You make alot of compromises, although I guess I'm dumb for spending 400 bucks on RGB
@@gu3z185 nonsense rgb guaranteed at least 50% fps boost in game
$1700 for an RX 590 >>> RUNNNN AWAY!
@Argya Wanaditya hell no this is a trash deal. $1700 for this system is an absolute ripoff.
@Argya Wanaditya cyberpower---->rtx 2070, 16gb ddr4 3000, r7 2700 cooled with kraken m22, 600w gold EVGA PSU, all on an MSI x470 GP board.... $1240.
@Argya Wanaditya "experts"
you can easily mod your PC case from a place like v1tech. You can buy custom cable extensions for your whole PC for less than $30. Xidax isn't a good deal.
Seems like a ripoff. I'd buy a prebuilt a pc at costco or part it up on newegg before I'd ever go to these guys.
i love my xidax... gonna be a customer forever
Just ordered my first PC with Xidax cause they have a lifetime warranty and you're able to trade in your current Xidax system towards a new one so I think it is worth it
@@Drone732 how is the PC? I'm new to PC's and don't know much but prefer that someone builds it for me lol
@@compajuan014 it runs great, I have had no issues whatsoever with it and been running all my games smoothly. It was packaged perfectly and was very easy to set up
@@Drone732 oh ok well that's good as I said I'm new to the PC world and prebuilt and don't know if they're trust worthy especially since they're in Utah and I'm in Cali but yeah I'm trying to see if they can make me a crpto mining rig but also able to use it as a gaming PC or for work but mainly as a mining rig I reached out to an agent and he helped me to start up a build and affordable but what's the difference in the different models? He started me up on the cheapest model and are all their mother boards only able to put in 1-2 GPU's?
@@Drone732 how long did it take to ship?
This review was well documented and gives me a good idea of what you can get for a pre-built system for less the 2K. That said building a new system yourself gives you a lot of satisfaction. (Take note CH, this review is rant & coke free! )
Bitfenix made a new Enso Mesh, which costs the same (as of now) as the original.
For $1500 you can do a Ryzen 7 2700x and RTX 2080 build (thats with 16gb of ram, 1tb nvme drive and all other required stuff.)
What? Bullshit! GPU=$700 CPU=$280 RAM=$85 SSD=150... The CPU and GPU is 1000 dollars alone 😂
As well as the case, power supply, motherboard, case fans, CPU cooler, etc
@Tied Noose Where the hell you live? :D I would love to have that kind of prices
Nah for $1500 you can get a Threadripper 2990WX system with four quadro RTX 8000's, 64GB EEC DDR4
@Tied Noose Oh. Here in Finland it is simply not possible.
For an extra $100 A lifetime warranty would be pretty great for buyers that may not be so technically inclined I think. BLD is cool for people that know what they want but maybe aren't confident or just don't have the time to build themselves.
Lee Adkins I do now how to build PC’s but the bld has been nothing but a great experience. Only thing you have to pay is $99 build and $50 ship. With two warranty for every single part
its more about the hassle with parts warranties and the time to assemble and reassemble that give prebuilts value.
youre right, building a pc is easy, but takes hours id rather be doing other things with
Hey, great video.
I enjoy these types of vids- as I too do comparison shopping. I see no reason to excessively spend hundreds of dollars for someone building it for me. I do agree with some shops have better prebuilt deals - I'd consider such an option(again, based on the price differential). I guess the exyended warranty is a factor often overlooked by builders.....
They honestly have the best prebuilts on the market ive ever seen.
Decent cable management and not cheaping out on parts such as PSU, SSD and RAM is important to me. Often these pre built system might have a decent CPU and GPU as that's the first thing people check out, and then save money on everything else.
With the custom builds I sell, I never charge more than $150 markup for any client, and I always try to get parts on sale. I haven't seen the prices of any pre-builts accurately reflect how much cheaper the parts are for SIs. The Xidax pre-built had a rough markup of 18% over retail, but one can easily infer that they got all the parts for $100+ less than retail. I don't think enough people take that into account when looking at a pre-built system. When buying anything, it's important for buyers to consider how much is being put into the product they're buying. If you're paying an extra $200+ over retail on a machine that a company payed way less on, and had to only put in 2 hours of work to build and setup, you're getting pretty heavily ripped off. Same goes for NZXT's "competitive" prices. They're literally right next to a warehouse that they constantly get components from. No shipping or handling costs, immediate bulk prices, and no wait times for shipments to come in. And yet they still overcharge customers. I really don't think these SIs and large scale system builders should be supported when they try to do as much as they can to pretend that they're giving customers a good deal.
I put together a 8700K based system for $900 that scored exactly the same Fire Strike score of 14'000. but I was using a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 8GB OC (1411) basically a RX 580.
I guess that shows hiw much an intel chip can help a GPU. about a 10to15% difference.
There are some really good prebuilt PCs available & some really bad ones too, but like any product you need to do some research on price to quality & performance,
I think Xidax has done a good job with this one as far as build quality but as you said for performance price could be a bit better
just bought mine from xidax waiting for it to arrive, lifetime warranty on parts and a trade in value if you wanna upgrade later on.
6:27 "A CD for Software."
But the System doesn't even have a CD drive. xD
I didn't know where's Waldo was into Tech videos. Been looking for him since I was a kid.
I knew he would include the fans. That's why I love this channel!
I believe that Xidax is one of those PC builders that offer lifetime warranties for every computer they build. That might be why they charge so much.
You can't customize their prebuilds or else it breaks their warranty. So, if you want to change anything, such as the "Xidax Extreme DDR4 2666MHz Memory" to G-Skill through their own menu before checkout, you do that breaking that warranty. Most ppl probably wont even read their warranty details and will end up changing something.
ButtsnifferStinkerface Animefan69 if you build your own custom one then it has a lifetime warranty.
Read warranty info. Amd is 2 years i think
Bill Bird no I talked with them, lifetime.
Just ordered a Xidax. According to Julian, one of their sales reps, the warranty only applies to the PC and parts they send. I was told that I could go out and buy more ram and install it per instructions, and it would not void the warranty. However the warranty would not extend to the new parts.
Nice on the knowledge your helping people understand researching a pre-built and what they will get...my 1st gaming pc was an ibuypower ..had shipped to Wal-Mart and picked it up...was a nzxt case with Asus b350 mb...8g adata ram...600w antec power supply...ryzen 7 1700x...msi gtx 1070 8g ddr5 graphics card ...a 240g ssd not sure brand..a 1 tb hdd...rgb light strip at top .. 2 nzxt case fans 1front ,1back..I intentionally took a loss on ram to get it for 1446$ I later added 16g ram totalling to 24...put and cooler from my new 2700x on the 1700x added 2x thermaltake ring fans in the top ...added 4port 3.0 sub in front and have the build right around 1600$ this p rebuilt is roughly 2 yrs old ...I've since did my 1st build and appreciate your vids and other tube teckies because you guys have taught me a lot ...I recently built for round 2000$ thermaltake view 31 case...Asus prime x470 pro mb with crucial 500g m.2 nvme drive for op...2x 4tb drives for games ...ryzen 7 2700x...coolermaster 240ml rad ...5coolermaster rgb case fans ...g skill 1250w power supply...2x16g g skill trident z rgb totaling 32g at 3200mhz...a gigabyte rtx 2060...was my 1st ever build ...hence putting the included amd prizm cooler on my prebuilt 1700x to help on cooling and do away with the stock cooler that was on it ...but I appreciate all the knowledge you share and helped my confidence ! Keep up the good work I'm a huge fan !! And long winded but just saying I agree ..to do the research and know what your getting for your money!! I plan to teach my 14yr old son how to build a pc one day and step up from that quad phenom with a 1050ti I gave him for his bday and teach him how to build his own one day!! Thanks man!!
Would just like to add that Xidax does not manufacture the "Xidax" coolers or RAM but puts their nameplate on them. Not saying they are bad parts, but Xidax does not manufacture them in-house to my knowledge.
Seems like the lifetime parts and labor warranty has a value to it. That would shrink the difference in price.
There are some pre-builts that offer an incredible value. I don't see the problem getting one these days if you just don't want to build your own. Sure, it's usually always cheaper to do it yourself but I get it if you're lazy and want some super clean cable management.
M.2 is a form factor so you're not going guaranteed to see a speed boost from SSD(2.5in drive) to M.2 but rather SATA to NVMe (there are SATA M.2 slots on some motherboards) I'm sure you know this so just clarification for people that may not realise.
So glad I looked at this review! Just bought one a couple days ago it’s coming in 2 weeks :) Xidax is one of the best prebuilt companies in 2019 for sure
Animal got mine as well and love it
Thanks, Greg.
Seasonic S12II? Why is NZXT using Group Regulated PSUs from 2011? Hopefully they swap them all out for the new S12III soon.
Great channel. Sorry to bring another subject. Could you clarify why you did once recommend not using a big wattage power supply for relatively modest wattage systems. It seems to be safe to oversize the capacity of the current source. The bigger PSU too be less noisy running at low power.
I own that exact PSU, the thing is amazing.... It is silent and works perfectly.
Apparently they are extremely reliable. Only time will tell!
How is it a year later?
Most the pre builts from pc case gear here in Australia are awesome.
Could you get some merch with "science studio" in air quotes? That would be nifty.
If they use those Pure Wings in each build, they'll get a humongous discount on them for sure. Similar for the RGB, they'll have paid no more than a tenner max netto per build
Yep. The bulk discounts were discussed in the video.
I bought a prebuilt back in 2016 for $780 and I have yet to upgrade a single thing to it and Amy game I play runs a smooth 60-110 fps. So it boils down to what you buy in a prebuilt package obviously
I built my new rig yesterday for 1600 bucks. I wanted to go with prebuilt, but the markup and choices across different companies turned me off.
Imho too much of the budget was spent making the system look good. It looks fantastic but I would rather spend more on a high quality monitor and gpu for outstanding picture quality which i will be spending hours and hours staring at, instead of a pretty box I won’t hardly look at after finding the power button
I don't really have anything against pre-built computers, I just think it's more fun to put mine together myself. Building a PC and then turning it on and playing a game on it at a really nice framerate is kind of... nice lol.
I think there should be a differentiation between "pre-built" systems like store brands, Dell, HP, Lenovo etc and what I would consider "Boutique" builds like this one. Some may well be pre-assembled on store shelves etc but they are built from known brand components that have been selected by someone with customer satisfaction in mind rather than simply bottom line. There are still tons of "pre-built" systems out there I wouldn't recommend to my worst enemy let alone a friend or customer, the ones that have unbranded bulk components (or brands you never heard of) and OEM GPUs that have sub standard cooling and components. Systems like the one in this video are becoming more common and I sincerely hope they do one day become the standard for pre-built systems but today, you can find utter garbage in just about any electronics store with their budget (dated) cases, unbranded cooling and bargain basement motherboards that often look as though they were made 20 years ago even though they somehow use the latest chipset.
I wouldn't lump the likes of Dell, HP and Lenovo with the horrible store brands but I also wouldn't recommend them to a home user. They are for office systems, mass deployment and schools etc where you want the corporate package that includes replacement programs etc. You always pay more than the value of the specs for these systems but that is part and parcel with brand tax.
To my mind these new pre-built systems are more "we built it for you" rather than what I have come to accept as a pre-built system over the years.
I agree. There should be a better distinction.
does nzxt charge state sales tax? I just found out xidax doesn't that alone is $387 on my build i'm thinking of buying from them.
I personally see these "prebuilts" the same thing as a DIY - it literally is. It' just Pre-assembled, but not OEM like the title implies. It's obvious click bait, but I definitely respect this channel, and everybody does this.
My issue, and I guess question is: Why do people call these as such? It's the same components you pull off the shelf, whether it be at MicroCenter or FRY's. Nothing 'OEM' or "Dell" about it.
It's just pre-built. They're literally built before you get the systems. That's the definition 😅
@@GregSalazar Yeah but it's like saying 'this computer put together with the same identical parts by someone else vs. Me' - Let's compare them! LOLZ!
Like, why? Windows installation procedure? Drivers? Cable management? It's so, so easy to fix if there's a problem.. I don't get the attraction or purpose of these topics. It's the same computer.
Have you tried calling customer service and see how they react to a small problem
You can really see the 40Mbps on this one.
Prebuilts are not ideal, but if it’s what someone has I don’t give them a hard time about it because it’s still a pc nonetheless, and if the parts are good then it’s doing it’s job
Sometimes I wonder if I should order a good pre-built. The thought of dealing with cables, troubleshooting, sleeving cables just terrifies my lazy ass to build another pc. Especially an itx one.
5:32 buys a mega rig pc..plays sims on it..
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@WITE FOX i mean minecraft with tracing mods becomes ridiculously hard to run.
Did they setup the memory speed in the bios, which is important. Most ppl buying pre-builds are not in the know.
Good question actually, I’m waiting to receive mine so I can find out, but they definitely should. Not too difficult of a fix incase they don’t though so 🤷🏻♂️
These days going to these companies are a little better. This was the only place I was able to find RTX3090 and Ryzen 9 series. Its insane how hard these parts are to find.
Really curious now. Why shouldn’t people shop on Outlet PC?
You can get that case with a mesh front panel now!
In Croatia, if you build a pc yourself, yiu can get an i5 9600k with an rtx 2060 for the same price as a prebuild with pentium g5400 and rx 570 4gb.
So is it worth it
is this the spectrum light case? i saw a video on youtube from 2020 with this same case from xidax, but it had a front-mesh panel so the fans can breathe. did they change to the mesh now if you know?
I've been looking at the darkbase 900, would you recommend the 700 or the 900 more? Nothing fancy, gonna be single GPU, AIO with triple rad for the cpu, E-ATX mobo, everything else pretty standard, 1 boot/most used stuff SSD and 1 storage HDD.
Here is my issue of pre-built machines:
Most of them come from places like HP, Dell, Walmart (God forbid) etc. these are not PCs that are built with the same motherboards, cases, and power supplies that we buy for our custom machines. These OEM builders have proprietary cases and motherboards that are only compatible with each other. Try to take a Dell machine and put it in a be quiet! case? Not gonna work. Not to mention, that motherboard will have a barely passable VRM, holding back your processor’s potential. Also, the cooler will also be something build by the OEM vendor: something cheap and likely ineffective.
This machine in this video is an exception to usual prebuilt machines. When regular consumers go to buy a computer, they aren’t looking at Xidax or NZXT. They are looking at HP or Dell.
What about shipping...most parts are free shipping but a full system might be very expensive
do the top case fans blow air into case or out of case. Sorry if this is a silly question.
also am I correct in assuming the radiator fans pull air into case?
Just a heads up don't run dx12 if you don't have a good pc if you got a medium setup use dx11 you get more fps keep up the good work
I'm so bad at cable management I just shove all my cables in the back of the case and hope my screws dont pop out lol
Should I get this or the 1500 gaming pc from nzxt
could you find a way to compare the value in all the prebuilt brands you know of? between value and warranty and all that
Does the Xidax lifetime warranty not add any value?
He’s sponsored by them... They want him to say things good about it, he won’t be completely honest if he wants to keep his sponsor... See where I’m goin?!?
Did I miss the ton of fans in the second system? Won't that add another hundred dollars to the build?
Did your nzxt system have an m.2? Looked like it had an 860 sata?
i have this case how do u open the front, be trying for years now lmao. nothing found online bc of how xidax markets their cases, finally found out it was a bitfinex, they replaced it w a X, for xidax.. but yea how do you open it, i want better cooling, it sucks closed
why you lie xidax is way less priced for me it's1786.05 at xidax with water cooling and everything else the same and at nzxt it was 1900 with air cooling.
does BLD just not charge you for cooling? pretty weird that's not included in the price cause it can get pretty expensive. like BLD listed all the components of the price and it adds up to the end price. whereas the other company included everything down to the thermal paste and we saw the fans and the water cooler would add up to a bit less than $200? so do BLD computers just have really shitty cheap fans that they get a huge discount on, or am i missing something
just picked up a system with a 2080ti Zotac and i9-9900k total out the door was 2200, came out cheaper to buy pre built and take apart for the parts inside
wow where'd you buy it?!
Imagine paying 1700 for 1080p gaming LUL
right? I'm dropping $1800 on a rig where I went a little Rgb and ram excessive, and it runs most triple A titles at 1440 minimum @95+ fps. On top of that, if I were to purchase my rig through NZXT (where I wanted to get it from, before deciding to build my own), I'm saving well over $300 and I have more freedom for better parts
@@zach23ize Nice man what cpu and gpu you got?
2500$ for my prebuild. I could game at a higher res. but high fps 130-170 @ max graphics is amazing. alienware monitor helps alot. i dont find the screen to be blurry at 1080p at all.
B&h is freaking awesome too btw. Customer service there is top notch
I have ordered a few things from them and I definitely agree.
@@GregSalazar I got the rtx 2080 from them and they ran out of the free game codes and when this months codes came out they gave it to me. Which came with an extra game. I love them
I have no idea what any of this 3ejfjenr 12p00ei all i want is a prebuilt pc with 240 fps on fortnite if u know any let me KNOW
Syrix well I could build you one
A cyber power works I think(decent deals) and if I build you one I’ll use new Ryzen 7 cpus
Ryzen 3000* but if u don’t want me too get a cyberpowerpc or go on nzxt and they will build you one with a 100$ installation fee very good deal.
i got a pre-built pc for 800 euros which otherwise would've cost me at least 900 or so if i wanted to build it myself
What pc did you get?
@@niels7621 rtx 2060, i5 9400, 16gb ddr4 with an 500gb ssd, usually not that cheap in the netherlands
Turn down the cloud settings in AC. Its the most demanding graphics.
How much did this cost you?
They have to make a profit on it. That's how a business works.
@@okwhateverlol1983 Larger companies get wholesale sale discounts.
Companies needs to make a profit.
Smaller companies are not telsa, and have all these investors throwing money at your company and watching it burn.
a led strip like that is max 10. also custom cables are like 15 a piece. u only had 2 customs. not a set.
Sick vid
Thanks for watching!
Could you explain why you said "if it was an intel system it would be a bit easier to run" talking about gta v?
Still cheaper than Grace Computer's $6000 build! But its not a beautiful as my Verge build from last year. That was truly a masterpiece. We were contacted by the Vatican because it is currently on display in the Sistine Chapel. The Pope says it rivals Michelangelo's artwork and deserves to have a home there.
Does the Sistine Chapel have a "Comedy Central" room?
@@FeeLtheHertZ It does, for whatever reason, there's lots of young boys in there.
I Ordered a pre built and when it got here my gpu wouldn’t display any video but everything else works rgb, fans, etc... except the gpu
1700 bucks for a 590 based build...? Nope.
@gray pierre get my what specifically? Afraid I dont understand the question.
@gray pierre the question itself is somewhat irrelevant really - the value of a mass produced object is not defined by a single users purchase. But I built my own, with more performance by a significant margin, and for 520 bucks less. As for prebuilt machines (so it's an apples to apples comparison), if you're interested in the best bang for your buck, I'd recommend checking out EKWB's systems. Their cheapest machine is higher performing than this xidax and for 400 bucks less than it at that.