Just ordered a Shaman. It’s my first SpyderCo. Actually it’s my first nice knife ever. Only ever had one $60 Kershaw and that’s it so i am pretty stoked
@@topglock I was like wow this is amazing but dang it’s heavy. For the hell of it I ordered a PM2 even though I thought it was an ugly knife. Turns out I much preferred it. Best pocket knife ever made. More ergonomic, lighter, cuts better. Sent the shaman back
@@topglock the shaman is more heavy duty but I don’t ever need that in a pocket knife. For that stuff I have fixed blades - all of which are Half Face Blades and are amazing
@@DistrictSoundLab interesting take. I too find the pm2 very ugly and the shaman more tolerably ugly but I was never happy with my pm2. It’s very slicy but it’s always felt clunky to me. I let the pm2 go and now I have two shamans. Love them, I don’t mind the weight we have to carry so much gear everyday whats another 3 ounces lol
Just ordered one. Thought I would watch a review about it while i wait for mine (wanted one for a long time, but finally was able to pull it off). Fun to watch a throwback metal complex video!
I love the Manix and even if something is better I still love my Manix and it gets its pocket time. I kept hoping for a sprint Shaman but I'm not waiting anymore. I'm ready to just use one.
Just got my second Shaman today (05/04/2023). Unlike my first one, this one came perfectly centered, had no blade movement and was drop shut out of the box. Loving it. 😊
GOAT You described the Big Banter as a master class in ergonomics but it’s the Shaman. Big Banter is awesome, one of my favourites so not bashing it. But the Shaman is perfection and is the true masterclass in ergonomics.
I don't like most of the spydies with the "hole hump" in the blade, which is why the Paras didn't do it for me, the leaf shape, when wide enough, IS appealing to me, as is the compression lock, but with steel and handle, I can't see spending that much.....ymmv, and I will keep an eye on other versions of the Shaman that I'm sure will be coming !!
I just ordered one from Scheels after discovering how great this knife is...I paid $210 I believe? If this knife is as good as everyone makes it out to be I think it will still be worth it at that price. I couldn't find one new anywhere else....completely sold out. Just to compare you're paying $175 for a standard Benchmade 940...with that you get meh QC, aluminum handles, axis lock, and an S30V blade. I think the extra $45 is worth the contoured G-10 handles alone but you're also getting a nicely stonewashed blade, compression lock, forward choil, nested steel liners, and better QC. This thing is a steal when it was released for the original price...I can't even imagine how great a sprint run would be.
Just picked one up for $225. :( but oh my goodness, is a chonky boi. (in a good way) the PM2 is a better fidget toy and EDC. If I knew I had to go chop down a tree to make an emergency shelter or work on a construction site, the Shaman would definitely be in my pocket. The PM2 is surprisingly smoother and thinner, but the Shaman feels like a beast in hand.
Just got my all-black Shaman from DLT thanks to you. Paid more than I should but so far I love it. It's heavier than I expected, but I ain't mad. Thanks!
I've been so close to ordering the dlc version of this. I was all set before seeing how much these used to be. I mean is it honestly worth $225 for the dlc version?
2023 these are now $230😐 Spyderco have priced themselves out for me. Not because I can't afford it, but because they've raised the price almost $100?! I cannot justify supporting a company that does that.
Talk about being late to the party... I just picked one up and popped a vid online the other day. I might not have bought one on looks alone although I think it’s an ok looking knife the clincher for me was the feel in my hand much like your self it was like a bell rung lol. So far I’m loving it other then a few minor things I will take care of once I get my office back. Take care stay safe and love the channel buddy.
As a man looking at and trying to convince myself I don't need a blacked out Shaman with a Lynch clip that costs 251 dollars I'm a little "perturbed" that it was apparently 135 dollars just 3 or 4 years ago!😤
Great review, which all of yours are. This specific review however was so well detailed in everything I needed to know decide on the Shaman, which has been a long debate for me between the para2 , manix2, and this Shaman. Ultimately for me, the ergos of the handle with those contours and less jimping than the manix were the deal sealer for me. I really want a sprint run to release though cuz Im not a fan of black handles... just remind me of plain old kitchen knives. Not sure how long I can hold out waiting for one though
Probably too late...but I can tell you the PM2 comes with some fairly grippy g10 scales. shaman has smooth g10. This actually makes it a little hard to close left hand only. Other than that, shaman is a little thicker, heavier, and is closer to a drop point vs the pm2 clip point.
the price hike argument is tough for me. People are constantly asking companies to increase quality and dont want to pay for higher quality and more attention to detail. the shaman is a great example of a company trying to go above and beyond (stonewashed blade/ clip, round-over on g10, thicker blade stock) to appease the critics, and then get bashed for charging $20 more for these features.
Hi MC. I’ve watched this video and a number of your other Shaman videos a number of times. I’m totally sweating this knife and I appreciate your genuine reactions and takes. I can’t seem to find your unboxing video anywhere though. Could you link that? Would love to see your initial take on it. Thanks!
@@NS-nt4cw I put my DLC M4 on layaway on August 31, should ship to me on Oct 1. I tried to resist due to the $259 price ($283 with tax) but it was still available when I got paid. I like the design, love canvas micarta and M2 is probably my favorite knife steel, so I really want to try M4. Now watch, as soon as I get my M4 they'll release the Shaman in Magnacut for the same price.
So overpriced. That's what Spyderco does. They make really great knives for actual knife users, then overcharge for them. Now, the M4 micarta version for $245 that BladeHQ is going to drop is interesting. I still think that's overpriced, but you're getting a much better steel for $15 more. Let's see how long they last.
Explain which steel is "much better" than M4, and why. Also explain why that element in steel is creating a higher value for you. Lots of empty spots in your comment.
@@metal_complex I think you misunderstood my comment. I was saying that M4 is a much better steel than S30V... The gist of my comment: Any version of the Shaman at this point is overpriced, but if you're going to buy one then you might as well get a great steel (M4) for only $15 more than the base (S30V). Still overpriced? Yes.. But easier to justify.
@@MFRiley again, you're automatically assuming M4 is in some magical "higher tier" over S30V. It isn't. S30V is still nearly as expensive as M4 to purchase through crucible. M4 has better edge retention, but S30V is stainless and easier to sharpen. These are two attributes some people will prefer over M4's edge retention alone. For some, M4's non stainless nature will be an instant "no" because of the environment it'll be used in. There's way more to consider here than which is a better value based solely on how "premium" the steel is perceived.
Awesome looking knife. I can’t bring myself to spend big money on a knife mainly because I suck at knife sharpening. Just not cost effective for me to spend $180 for a disposable knife.
Everyone that bought the shermon early good job ! Because this knife is well where I live it's now at 300 buck'A'roos ? I pick mines up today well the day of my comment for 213$ and I was like whoa big knife ! But I think it might be my new edc and work knife maybe not for work because I carry a auto. Heavy to but like the length that may not turn into an issue.
So the knife gave you a religious type experience with the light from the ceiling on a knife called the Shaman. Interesting. I agree the price hike was dumb because what they are now saying is hate ir be ambivalent to a new release so price won't jump. Not a good marketing strategy in my opinion.
Got a spyderco the member numbered version of cts xhp from new Graham knives and behind one the washers on the blade is oddly smoothly scuffed brand new . The rest fully stonewashed but that one side one corner is not so much. Also taking forever to break in fully. I had to dye the safety orange g10, is how I found out. Kinda suprised and yea....
I like the design of the handle and the blade shape but for that little cutting edge you cannot ask for even 150.00 and not feel like a crook. Why a finger choil on such a little blade? What a waste. Give me 3.5 inch or greater of cutting edge and basically the same knife and you have a real winner not an also ran. This is a miss for me and I will stick with the Manix 2 XL for now.
I actually prefer a choil over extra cutting edge. 99% of the time, my cutting needs can be met with only 2 inches of blade. So for me, the Shaman is WAY overkill. But, when I'm at home breaking down thick cardboard boxes, I want to be able to get right up next to the edge because the pressure I'm applying is much more easily transferred to the thickness of the cardboard than on a blade with no choil, and my finger 0.5" further back on the handle. I.E. the Hinderer Eklipse vs XM 18. The Eklipse has more blade, but no choil. Same price. What I gain in usable cutting edge, I lose in utility (the ability to put heavy pressure behind my push cuts)
Just ordered a Shaman. It’s my first SpyderCo. Actually it’s my first nice knife ever. Only ever had one $60 Kershaw and that’s it so i am pretty stoked
How do you like your shaman
@@topglock I was like wow this is amazing but dang it’s heavy. For the hell of it I ordered a PM2 even though I thought it was an ugly knife. Turns out I much preferred it. Best pocket knife ever made. More ergonomic, lighter, cuts better. Sent the shaman back
@@topglock the shaman is more heavy duty but I don’t ever need that in a pocket knife. For that stuff I have fixed blades - all of which are Half Face Blades and are amazing
@@DistrictSoundLab interesting take. I too find the pm2 very ugly and the shaman more tolerably ugly but I was never happy with my pm2. It’s very slicy but it’s always felt clunky to me. I let the pm2 go and now I have two shamans. Love them, I don’t mind the weight we have to carry so much gear everyday whats another 3 ounces lol
Just ordered one. Thought I would watch a review about it while i wait for mine (wanted one for a long time, but finally was able to pull it off). Fun to watch a throwback metal complex video!
Spot on! The Manix 2 (s110v, g10) was the knife I carried 80-90% of the time until I got a Shaman. The Shaman is by far my favorite Spyderco.
why do you like the shaman over the manix 2? I have a shaman, looking at manix 2 xl
This is gonna be one of those knives I think about for 10 months and make up an excuse to buy lol
I’m thinking about it but $300+AUS is a tough pill to swallow.
I just did exactly that
@@Convocationofme I definitely did the same 😂 got in on that Z wear
Yup. Just ordered it. Waited for months, watched it go in and out of stock, and finally pulled the trigger. I'm excited tho
@@connorp5878 I got mine in m4 but same
I have the Manix 2 XL & YoJumbo. I love the bigger Spyderco. I’m so tempted to get a Shaman but they’re $325AUS. You thought $180 was a stretch.😉
I love the Manix and even if something is better I still love my Manix and it gets its pocket time. I kept hoping for a sprint Shaman but I'm not waiting anymore. I'm ready to just use one.
There's a sprint Shaman?
Question for ya. The Shammy went up to $231.00, would you still recommend now it’s up from the $181.00 price? The $50.0p jump is steep for me.
Just got my second Shaman today (05/04/2023). Unlike my first one, this one came perfectly centered, had no blade movement and was drop shut out of the box. Loving it. 😊
What did you pay and where did you get it?
@@joshym2006 Tactical Asia. I think it cost me almost P18,000. Quite expensive but that's how much I love the Shaman.
GOAT
You described the Big Banter as a master class in ergonomics but it’s the Shaman.
Big Banter is awesome, one of my favourites so not bashing it. But the Shaman is perfection and is the true masterclass in ergonomics.
I don't like most of the spydies with the "hole hump" in the blade, which is why the Paras didn't do it for me, the leaf shape, when wide enough, IS appealing to me, as is the compression lock, but with steel and handle, I can't see spending that much.....ymmv, and I will keep an eye on other versions of the Shaman that I'm sure will be coming !!
This thing is growing on me.
Maybe in a better steel version....
I just ordered one from Scheels after discovering how great this knife is...I paid $210 I believe? If this knife is as good as everyone makes it out to be I think it will still be worth it at that price. I couldn't find one new anywhere else....completely sold out.
Just to compare you're paying $175 for a standard Benchmade 940...with that you get meh QC, aluminum handles, axis lock, and an S30V blade. I think the extra $45 is worth the contoured G-10 handles alone but you're also getting a nicely stonewashed blade, compression lock, forward choil, nested steel liners, and better QC.
This thing is a steal when it was released for the original price...I can't even imagine how great a sprint run would be.
First Shaman has been ordered. I have two PM2s and a Delica.. excited for this to get here.
Just picked one up for $225. :( but oh my goodness, is a chonky boi. (in a good way) the PM2 is a better fidget toy and EDC. If I knew I had to go chop down a tree to make an emergency shelter or work on a construction site, the Shaman would definitely be in my pocket. The PM2 is surprisingly smoother and thinner, but the Shaman feels like a beast in hand.
Hearing that the shaman was 180 bucks 5 years ago and now $270 (Blade HQ) makes me sick
Right now they’re “on sale” for 225.. which is still sickening. But I finally decided to pull the trigger and get one.
I've been thinking about this one for awhile. Time to pull the trigger!
GREAT REVIEW
Just got my all-black Shaman from DLT thanks to you. Paid more than I should but so far I love it. It's heavier than I expected, but I ain't mad. Thanks!
I've been so close to ordering the dlc version of this. I was all set before seeing how much these used to be. I mean is it honestly worth $225 for the dlc version?
2023 these are now $230😐 Spyderco have priced themselves out for me. Not because I can't afford it, but because they've raised the price almost $100?! I cannot justify supporting a company that does that.
Talk about being late to the party... I just picked one up and popped a vid online the other day. I might not have bought one on looks alone although I think it’s an ok looking knife the clincher for me was the feel in my hand much like your self it was like a bell rung lol. So far I’m loving it other then a few minor things I will take care of once I get my office back. Take care stay safe and love the channel buddy.
I am ordering this very knife but it is currently on back order. I can't wait to get my hands on one!
Thanks for your review, it was awesome!
0:06 lol, you have to read the closed captions when he says that.
Spider toe jamming
Wasn't a Spyderco fan until I picked up this knife (all black serrated version). Its just angry and evil and if you pick it up you will own one too!
Shamrock, Pegasus, Wheelchair...
Winter-Soldier Activated!!
As a man looking at and trying to convince myself I don't need a blacked out Shaman with a Lynch clip that costs 251 dollars I'm a little "perturbed" that it was apparently 135 dollars just 3 or 4 years ago!😤
Found mine on Botach for 153.00 so excited to come across it for that price
Great review, which all of yours are. This specific review however was so well detailed in everything I needed to know decide on the Shaman, which has been a long debate for me between the para2 , manix2, and this Shaman. Ultimately for me, the ergos of the handle with those contours and less jimping than the manix were the deal sealer for me. I really want a sprint run to release though cuz Im not a fan of black handles... just remind me of plain old kitchen knives. Not sure how long I can hold out waiting for one though
Probably too late...but I can tell you the PM2 comes with some fairly grippy g10 scales. shaman has smooth g10. This actually makes it a little hard to close left hand only. Other than that, shaman is a little thicker, heavier, and is closer to a drop point vs the pm2 clip point.
$180, I wish!
the price hike argument is tough for me. People are constantly asking companies to increase quality and dont want to pay for higher quality and more attention to detail. the shaman is a great example of a company trying to go above and beyond (stonewashed blade/ clip, round-over on g10, thicker blade stock) to appease the critics, and then get bashed for charging $20 more for these features.
Hi MC. I’ve watched this video and a number of your other Shaman videos a number of times. I’m totally sweating this knife and I appreciate your genuine reactions and takes. I can’t seem to find your unboxing video anywhere though. Could you link that? Would love to see your initial take on it. Thanks!
Well I paid $245 for my shaman I love it something about this knife words can't explain
You adjust your pivot on the shaman? I've been working mine and it still doesn't fall closed.
Likely adjusted and he probably polishes the copper washers as well.
$250+ now
Have you thought about redoing some of your older videos like this?
I know I'm really late on this. But, I have a question. The Shamen in M4. Or the Gayle Bradley 2 with the upgraded scales? You can only have 1
I snagged a shaman in m4 & micarta today from bladehq. Pretty pumped for it to arrive!
@@NS-nt4cw same here bud. Waiting patiently
@@bubbleillusion5968 loving mine so far! Beast of a spyderco.
@@NS-nt4cw I put my DLC M4 on layaway on August 31, should ship to me on Oct 1. I tried to resist due to the $259 price ($283 with tax) but it was still available when I got paid. I like the design, love canvas micarta and M2 is probably my favorite knife steel, so I really want to try M4. Now watch, as soon as I get my M4 they'll release the Shaman in Magnacut for the same price.
@@Crusty_Otter you won’t be disappointed!! Until they drop one in magnacut like you said haha
How do I get one down under in AUS
$180 sounds pretty good now that it's $220. I've dragged my feet so I might have to pay up.
The real question is do you like it for $230? 😅 cause I'm struggling to justify it. Love your channel thanks for all the awesome videos and reviews!
So overpriced. That's what Spyderco does. They make really great knives for actual knife users, then overcharge for them. Now, the M4 micarta version for $245 that BladeHQ is going to drop is interesting. I still think that's overpriced, but you're getting a much better steel for $15 more. Let's see how long they last.
Explain which steel is "much better" than M4, and why. Also explain why that element in steel is creating a higher value for you.
Lots of empty spots in your comment.
@@metal_complex I think you misunderstood my comment. I was saying that M4 is a much better steel than S30V...
The gist of my comment:
Any version of the Shaman at this point is overpriced, but if you're going to buy one then you might as well get a great steel (M4) for only $15 more than the base (S30V). Still overpriced? Yes.. But easier to justify.
@@MFRiley again, you're automatically assuming M4 is in some magical "higher tier" over S30V. It isn't.
S30V is still nearly as expensive as M4 to purchase through crucible.
M4 has better edge retention, but S30V is stainless and easier to sharpen. These are two attributes some people will prefer over M4's edge retention alone. For some, M4's non stainless nature will be an instant "no" because of the environment it'll be used in.
There's way more to consider here than which is a better value based solely on how "premium" the steel is perceived.
188 bucks! Is it that much better than Manix or PM2?
IMO, yes, it is better... but whether or not it's $60-$80 better is another question...
Idk any other way to contact you lol but KnivesShipFree just got the S90V CF Shaman sprint in and I figured you’d be interested
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Dude, Spyderco is a business. Profit oriented, get it.
Every company who sells anything is profit oriented. Who is it you think you're informing? Lol
Anyone know what spyderco is closest to this? Full size handle and big bellied blade. I can’t find the shaman anywhere
getting mine in 2 days
If they came out with a shaman in cruwear id buy it. Ive been on a cruwear and cpm 20cv buy lately lolol
Yes. Speak the truth!!!
They did come out I wasn’t there for the preorders but am hoping I can buy one when they drop
I could not agree with you more and I’m fine with the current price point!
It’s like a bigger native 5.
it has absolutely no resemblance or origins to the PM2. the blade and handle ate totally different. the compression lock is on several models
Awesome looking knife. I can’t bring myself to spend big money on a knife mainly because I suck at knife sharpening. Just not cost effective for me to spend $180 for a disposable knife.
Spyderco sharpens knives for free, why throw them away???
I know how you feel about the manix vs. Shaman. Love them both but the shaman...ooh buddy!
Everyone that bought the shermon early good job ! Because this knife is well where I live it's now at 300 buck'A'roos ? I pick mines up today well the day of my comment for 213$ and I was like whoa big knife ! But I think it might be my new edc and work knife maybe not for work because I carry a auto. Heavy to but like the length that may not turn into an issue.
the spyderco wheelchair
Thinking of getting this one because it doesn't have that ugly hump on it imo lol
Just ordered my own from your Amazon store 😍⚔️⚔️⚔️
AWESOME!!!
Any today they run 240
This knife is $252 now and I still bought one
Your Para 2 us now 165 and shaman is 202. Talking about price hike.
I'm aware
dont waste your money on the manix 2 with g10 handle, its too smooth and slippery.
I want one but damn 180 ain’t cheap
Yup, not at all a good price. They came out December for 154 last year and after Jan went to 189.
Bought mine used for 150, that's the way to go.
It's $202 now
$230 now unfortunately
id love to buy a Shaman for $180 they are like $270 now wtf
$26 for a clone
lets go for magnacut’ in a titanium handle fixed blade and a unique blade shape! designers ?
Now your shaman sprint runs are $250 and they still sell. Really hurts my heart but mainly hurts my wallet. 😂
So the knife gave you a religious type experience with the light from the ceiling on a knife called the Shaman. Interesting. I agree the price hike was dumb because what they are now saying is hate ir be ambivalent to a new release so price won't jump. Not a good marketing strategy in my opinion.
And now they're 250 bucks lol
Fast forward to today, this fucking thing costs 275$
Wait what? Is that a knife with a lanyard in the cup holder of this old school MC car review??? C'mon man....
Got a spyderco the member numbered version of cts xhp from new Graham knives and behind one the washers on the blade is oddly smoothly scuffed brand new . The rest fully stonewashed but that one side one corner is not so much. Also taking forever to break in fully. I had to dye the safety orange g10, is how I found out. Kinda suprised and yea....
Looks neat. But they’re demanding $202 now?! wtf
271.03$ oct/2024 on amazon ...plus TAX 😅😅😹 did i pay it?.. yup
So what's the story about Ricky? Does he have a channel too?
He's a bodybuilder. Check out his Instagram @ricky_huse
Damb you. Now I want one.
😊
Elmax is the thing’ !
Shouldn’t have hiked it to $180…..how we feeling now about the $230 🤣
And now they are $252 for a basic entry level black g10 lol
It’s $300 now
Isn't Lexus made by Toyota
Yup. I honestly can't remember the analogy I made in this video. Sorry if it wasn't accurate 😅
👏👏👏
I like the design of the handle and the blade shape but for that little cutting edge you cannot ask for even 150.00 and not feel like a crook. Why a finger choil on such a little blade? What a waste. Give me 3.5 inch or greater of cutting edge and basically the same knife and you have a real winner not an also ran. This is a miss for me and I will stick with the Manix 2 XL for now.
I actually prefer a choil over extra cutting edge. 99% of the time, my cutting needs can be met with only 2 inches of blade. So for me, the Shaman is WAY overkill. But, when I'm at home breaking down thick cardboard boxes, I want to be able to get right up next to the edge because the pressure I'm applying is much more easily transferred to the thickness of the cardboard than on a blade with no choil, and my finger 0.5" further back on the handle. I.E. the Hinderer Eklipse vs XM 18. The Eklipse has more blade, but no choil. Same price. What I gain in usable cutting edge, I lose in utility (the ability to put heavy pressure behind my push cuts)
Wait until you see the price of it in 2022
I have. I'm still making content 😉
It seems heavy for no reason, and the nub is a poor design flaw
Bought mine for $200 :(
They're all $200 now unfortunately
@@metal_complex I just got it today and love it. I didn't even know it was released at $150 until now. Oh well
Sounds like you have safe words down. Lol
Come on z-wear shaman.
2023 - 300 euros
2046 - 3.000 euros probably