Did Palworld STEAL These Pokemon!?
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2024
- Did Palworld COPY These Pokémon Designs?
Palworld Full Dex Footage → • EVERY PAL IN PALWORLD!...
Palworld Model Comparison → covingtown/status...
Cinderace/Verdash Comparison → byofrog/status/17... 
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Turns out the 3d models were altered slightly to give them the same polygon count because that certain troon hated the game.
I just hope this makes Game Freak step up their game
same... I'm hoping for another Legends game that continues to move away from a lot of the tropes holding back Pokémon
I'm happy this has happened, this game won't last for long, it'll fall off soon but it'll give GameFreak something to think about and make them improve on their upcoming games.
@@MunchingOrangeLegends Johto, naturally containing Kanto also 🤞
If this doesn't slap Gamefreak out of their Scarlet and Violet trashbin. Nothing will. Cartoonz, Dead squirrel, Vanos, Delirious, Wildcat, Mexican Eddie, and the Bois (All the ones that I currently watch) Have heard of it, and it's taking off instantly. The servers have overflowed to the point they're server troubles. And I know for a fact that Nogla is gonna start playing it if he gets wind of it.
it wont
Nintendo has already gotten denied an attempt at a lawsuit once, doubt theyll get it
i doubt the’ve been denied yet. Lawsuits can take months be reviewed and the game has only been out like a week
@@farb6780 they attempted a suit against a person who made a palworld mod for Pokemon, but I’m sure they’ll be denied a suit against palworld, it’s different enough to be considered its own game and not violate any copyright
It was a cease and desist not a lawsuit
It won't go anywhere if the game was just about catching monsters then yes but it's not it has bases building in it and other things in it making it different than Pokemon
It's like 10% pokemon and everything else is more ARK than anything.
I heard the individual who originally released these 3d models has come out stating they're fake and he did it because he hated the game.
it’s because he likes animals and palworld has slaves to him but pokemon are slaves to you literally take them from there habitat and make them fight to the death
yeah the guy who released them admitted he sabotaged the models bc he hates animal cruelty and the fact we can kill the pals
@@kalebnewman1145so why is friendship a whole ass feature
@@legobattledroid3098 to hide the slavery but if you dont like it thats fine i like both but thats up to you
@@kalebnewman1145 idk i havent played palworld but at least for pokemon i think of it less as slavery and more as coaching, i box in real life and my coach is a real slave driver sometimes working me to the bone but its all for my benefit so i kinda see pokemon the same way
The person who did the mesh comparison just admitted he changed the palworld mesh to fit the pokemon models
They downscaled them, any 3D artist who knows their stuff is gonna tell you that up/downscaling shouldn't matter when it comes to topography joints and such
They didn't. They said they scaled it. What's the first thing an art/asset thief does to obfuscate the source material? That's right. Transform/palette switch. Common transform methods? Horizontal flip (static art), or resize (3D models).
@@LuxyHugsthey didn’t just scale it. They scaled certain parts of the model to make it look more like the other model
@@fireb1rd490they didn't, what evidence do you have of that? You're repeating misinformation.
@@peacefusion yes, and most examples are extremely farfetched. People are trying way too hard to justify their bias.
Look at it like this. Nintendo had a few years to sue them. And they didn't.
Ninendo also reacted in less than a day after a random person created a mod for Palworld that added a few characters from Pokemon in it. It goes without saying, that the game would be long gone, if it would be ripping off anything.
Honestly.. people think that a husky-type of an anime monster is a ripoff of a wolf-type anime monster. Or even better, the last example... the only actual similarity was the snake apperance - which OH MY GOD, it's a real animal!...
It got to such a pathetic level of comparison, that some people compared a fire fox pal with vulpix, because... a fire fox is not a mythological creature that even a damn webbrowser named after. Or even better... a 9 tailed fox.. Never seen before, ey?
Or even better using the color pallet as proof that it's ripped off where the actual design is completely different... Or using accessories (like ribbons) as proof... They even got as far to compare a pokemon and a pal by the mere concept of what they are in real life (a candle), where neither the style or colors are the same. How about the sheep-like pal being compared with the pokemon version of it? With the only thing they had in common was.. well, that they are based on a real life animal.
And yes, a few of them are heavily inspired by the pokemon counterparts, but to say that they are ripoffs.. that's as stupid as calling pokemon a dragon quest and shin megami ripoff.
Honestly, some people should really take a grip and stop trying to confirm that bias of theirs.
I wonder where the line is drawn between plagiarism and parody? I think Palworld dances over that line a few times
The line is fuzzy and often arbitrary
They are very clearly different, even if similar. Legally distinct.
I remember hearing this in a lecture in college. The best way to make your idea a parody is to mock the competition.
The thing is in America this is not plaguerism it is unethical tho being inspired by those designs doesn't mean anything whilst in Japan it's completely different and they could loose the copyright if they can proove it being too similar. What is way likely helping their case is Pokemon mainly prioritizes copyrighting ROMs and MODs since they are considered cheating and can hurt their image.
Legally it's 70% likeness if I remember right
It’s important to know that at least some of these comparisons have been edited to make it seem like they are more alike then they actually are. I know one guy even admitted doing it because he hated the ‘animal abuse’ the game has.
As if Pokémon is much better with that. 😂
But even without, watching the trailer of the game i had to double check in the infobox if its not maybe actually a pokemon spin off game or something cause damn i almost can think of a pokemon for every design in palworld, and that just cant be a coincidence, people saying they didn’t copy them are just blind fr
@@vexxobex7333
Have you ever heard about the thing where if you get a low percent and then you increase the number you have a higher number chance I guess you can say of getting a hit on something like the lotto or any gambling thing
Well have I got a statement for you Pokémon has 1025 Pokémon
probably states they gonna look like they copied something
I mean if you get one game makes a wolf in the game and so does another and they look similar. Well of course they’re gonna look similar they both wolves why wouldn’t they be the similar
At most, they copied the style which is no big deal. People do that all the time in music, and shows everything.
Sounds like you are not familiar with pokemons cause if you would be you clearly would see the similarities which cant be coincidental
@@vexxobex7333 … how would I not know Pokémon? 🤣
But yeah, some are clearly inspired by Pokémon, but they are their own thing. The worst that comes to mine is that grass type one that looks like the final evolution of that fire type starter (don’t know their names).
The others are no where near as bad as that, and even then, keep in mind Pokemon has other a thousand Mons. I some are bound to be at least a little similar, like the foxes.
@@KHMDarkness bro but you cant call them original designs do you really defend a game developer that put little to zero effort in their character designs? They just took the pokemon models and changed them only to this point that they cant get sued, thats yukky to me
A lot of the comparison models have been proven to have been altered and fake. It was on Twitter a couple days ago I recommend looking at that.
I did, but the only altercation that I saw was that of scale. The models were otherwise unchanged. At least from what I saw.
@@leedlebob2667u literally don't need to look at "the models" just play the games lmao. None of them look that similar that their models would match that well it's basic common sense
"The models" are hogwash.
@@jacobbender2246 Except you do since there is a difference in lighting and all that. Comparing the models directly makes for the most fair comparison.
That being said many of these models show that at the very least they were likely highly derived from, not stolen assets. Like someone most likely had a cinderace model on hand when making verdash.
Also I have played the game and while there are original pals I like, there is a good chunk that hits the bargain bin, chinese bootleg, rip off category.
@@leedlebob2667 lmao that's just wrong though and you are repeating what you are being told. Look at the pal in palworld, look at the pokemon in scarlet/violet. There is no way anybody used one to copy the other, the proportions are not what's shown in this youtube video. If you ripped your own models they would not look like what this person has talked about at all.
@@jacobbender2246 It's like you didn't read what I said. I'll give you another chance though so make it count.
1: The person who did those comparisons admitted to tweeking the models to make them more similar.
2: oh God forbid you make a snake look like a snake.
3: They OBVIOUSLY copied Pokemon
4: Who cares if they did, the game is fun
@jtx6104 other than a few that resemble Pokémon, a good amount stand on their own. That being said, aside from the Pal Spheres and having creatures with "powers" (which existed in other games besides Pokémon) the rest of the game is more of a survival game which uses mechanics that don't exist in ANY of the Pokémon games. Acting like it's a 1-1 copy is kind of sad.
No they didn’t… you lack comprehension. What they said was they scaled the models to be roughly the same size…
You know like when you’re resizing a photo and you grab the anchor in the corner instead of the ones on the top/bottom/sides to keep from distorting the proportions…
@octopi3018 No I do not. There was a secondary post by "MetalDragonKid" using the same models where they found at no point did the models match up.
What that original poster did was manipulate the width and height to stretch them in a way to make them more similar. Said person didn't "resize the model like a photo" they widened and shortened the 3D models to make them match, then later said it was specifically because they disliked the game.
@@jtx6104pokemon OBVIOUSLY copied that one dragon warrior game with creature collecting. (2 or 3 maybe?)
Pokemon doesn't own creature collecting and most of the pals are way more generic than pokemon.
The guy that made this apologized for faking it on twitter
Nope. They admitted to rescaling it, which is the first port of call for 3D asset thieves, just like 2D asset thieves first method is the horizontal flip.
🤣🤣🤣🤣it's funny because the person that posted the models said they modified the models because palworld "glorified" animal abuse
Let the Pokemon fans be mad about Palworld, they’ll never understand the joy people get when seeing a monkey with an AK-47
Planet of the apes enters the chat…
I'm a pokemon fan, gamefreak was just shown the proper way to make a pokemon game. I'm mad that gamefreak is being so lazy.
You’d think after seeing the success ark had and other survival games Nintendo and gamefreak would’ve hopped on a Pokémon survival but they’re just mad someone beat them to it
dude. pokemon took creature designs from dragon quest. as well most creature designs ARE based on real animals
"Corporate wants you to find the differences between these two pictures"
Pokemon has a bat that is blue
Dragon Quest has a bat that is blue
Palworld literally has a recolored Goodra with Serperior's tail stitched onto its butt
"They're the same picture"
@@drawingdragon "both Satoshi Tajiri and Ken Sugimori were huge fans of the series- Playing Dragon Quest 3, Sugimori found an extra item that Tajiri needed. Sadly, there is no way to transfer items between save files; so the thought " well, wish we could trade ". And that is the idea for where trading came from for the Pokemon series. In fact, Ken Sugimori's original art of the 251 Pokemon are done in a watercolor style similar to the art style of Akira Toriyama, the illustrator for Dragon Quest and Dragon Ball."
@@bookbookbook1Being inspired by a piece of media and creating your own unique piece of media off of it is absolutely ok, what isn’t ok is stealing other people’s designs and passing them off as your own work.
@@FrankinNitebut no proof actually shows that they actually stole Pokemon things. Most of the stuff seem like fans of Pokemon was inspiration, they change a lot of looks, designs different color heck even different typing for most. So is palworld really stealing?
@@lawless7512 That is the thing with these arguments, like 3 or 4 of the designs look like it was made intentionally to copy or parody like sure its EA so i would like them to be changed a bit when its finished (like the Cinderace knock off that i havent found in game yet) but the rest of the things they try and say are copies are either:
based on the same animal but look completely different, based on a story or mythology, or they say it looks like 5 different pokemon combined when at that point that is a whole different creature (like someone said Chillet was just a Furret + Dragonair + Goodra... like bruh no wonder they can pull so many of these out their ass without getting hurt, they warm up by making the biggest stretches imaginable beforehand.)
I looked at a cover... and immediately saw Jigglypuff, Ho-Oh, and a Fat angry Pikachu... 😭
That was obviously electabuzz
If that was pikachu then I don’t know why they gave him a minigun
Then you played it and realized pokemon is 20 years behind the world in terms of game creation :)?
@@djh345pokemon do be behind, but lets not pretend that palworld isn't just a bunch of stock assets and some questionable creature designs.
@@leedlebob2667 i do not care one single percent, all that actually matters is that as a gamer i am getting what i desire to play.
This. IS. IT👌❤️
Anything else is just people arguing about arguments for the sake of arguing over arguments that are argumentatively stupid to even bother to care about. Just like deciphering my last sentence🤪 Rather than doing that, do something fun! Play palworld🤣👌
To actually address your reply to me: would you rather:
be bored, not enjoy the game play but think the monsters look good?
Or
Be thinking there is room for design improvements, but enjoy your gameplay more than anything you have ever played for 30 years?
My pick is B😃❤️
Let’s talk about the Pokémon that looks identical to eevee
Personally think this palworld was just lazy. “Ooh it’s based on the same animal it’s bound to happen!” Okay so why do fan artists create thousands of fanmade Pokémon that are all unique and amazing in their own way?
i don’t think it’s lazy. it’s on purpose. if they had the chance i’m sure it would just be pokémon with guns, but they can’t do that legally. i think they made the designs that way to make it as close as legally possible without a cease and desist
do we give a fuck it's a better experience than the last 2 pokemon games
Because it isn't lazy it's intentional. What makes a parody like pal world so effective is designs reminding you of real pokemon designs but being different. I swear the screeching pokemon children think Poekmon owns the entire genre and any parody of Pokemons concept is an abomination.
@@KM-qq7er Be the same type of person complaining when all games start to look the same
Personally I think Pokemon was just lazy for coping DragonQuest in the first place.
Of course they copied Pokémon designs isn’t it obvious why would anyone debate this
The borrowed components of pokemon designs. Like a head shape, or a body shape, or eyes but then literally every other aspect of the design is different. That isnt copying, that is a game that is a parody of pokemon wanting to remind you of the original game it's mocking but still have its own designs. You guys need to put on your big boy pants if you think one small component being similar is the same as making a 1 to 1 copy of a pokemon.
@@d.barrett578 say what you want they copied
@@karljenkins7682 They did not. They aren't exactly copies or even close to that, the game is parody which legally protects their ability to use similar designs, and Nintendo doesn't own the genre. It's not a copy, their are dozens of games in dozens of genres that are far more similar than Palworld and Pokemon but for some reason fans uniquely support Pokemon "owning" an entire genre and anything close to it is called a copy by children like you when it is nowhere close.
They are based off of the same thing but what makes it more obvious is their specific abilities
No they didn't dude, if you're talking about the wolf, they more than likely designed it after a wolf not lycanrock.
If you're talking about the purple cat, it looks closer to the cheshire cat than that dumb looking meowth.
If you're talking about verdash it's clearly inspired not stolen because it has a different size/design abit which is safe under parody laws.
If youre talking about the blue snake, it's completely different, it's a blue snake.
All in all theyre safe under parody laws, pokemon sucks, I love sweatshop simulator, go back to pokemon and get ripped off every year.
Palworld be stealing Pokemon better than Team Rocket.
Underrated comment
By this logic Pokemon owns all animal designs And more. I'm sick and tired of you guys Thinking that Pokémon or Nintendo Should own everything. They don't, And I hope they never will.
@@beaconrealbeef7497 that's absolutley silly you think that lol.
@@leedlebob2667 In what way?
@@beaconrealbeef7497 Because nobody is saying that and you're taking that nonexistant point to it's extreme.
The dude who compared the models admitted to manually scaling the models to make them look more similar than they actually are.
Scaling doesn't change the model itself though..m
@@sleepysera The scaling tool in blender scales individual selected components of a model. So yes, it does.
@@someguy3861 you can't tell that that's how the palworld models were created? None of them were made from scratch lol
@@CR-og5ho actually, they were. Looking at them as someone that actually knows how modeling works, there are several signs that the easier thing to do would actually be to make the models from scratch. The geometry around the base of the tail, as well as the actual structure of the legs for example.
You COULD re-sculpt the official pokemon model to be that, but at the level of work it would take you could just as easily if not more so make a new model from a reference picture.
Now, was the reference picture drawn over a front and side view of the model? Perhaps. But was the model ripped and altered? Not likely.
Have you seen that GREEN DINOSAUR which is just meganium with the flower on its head instead of its neck ITS COPY PASTE
I’m not a hater of the game but it’s crazy how proper are trying to defend it so hard when they clearly did just steal many of the designs. Lol
Does Pokémon have slavery? No but I find it bizarre that palworld has it.
Yes it does
I find ot more bizarre that you think pokemon doesn't have slavery
Slavery of humans, monsters that can fit in your pockets aren’t people.
I'm concerned with how many people praise slavery in the game.
It's legit the main thing I hear about palworld.
@camharkness there's also human slavery and cannibalism because you can catch PEOPLE as pals, and since everything in a pal sphere is a pal, and you can butcher pals, war crimes
I love how everyone talks shit about palworld having similar models yet oh yeah it looks like you know meowth's face cut and pasted yeah it also looks like a fucking Ghibli character My neighbor Totoro you don't think that wasn't stolen by Pokemon hell game freak his stolen full on Pokemon from fans they were stolen fakemon and made them real I love how this is all one-sided trying to protect shity ass game freak when they don't even fucking give a fuck about us all they care is how much money they can wring out of us for a while that's it and yeah Palworld might be the same but at the moment they're doing more interactions with the community and actually listening to the community to help make their game better compared to game freak it is so stupid the people are bitching and complaining about this obviously it's not that many people otherwise it wouldn't have sold 8 million in 4 days it hit a all new record high of sales in 8 hours I believe one of the top selling games in the past 5 or 10 years within just using the 8-hour marker
Every game company makes games for money, I’m sure Pocket Pair made Palword for money as well
I ain't reading all that
Yikes
“Monster taming game with survival elements” bro is being downright misleading for people who haven’t played it. It’s ark survival/Elden ring/botw/Pokémon and it’s way less of a Pokémon game than the others. The design are supposed to be Pokémon esque, but you don’t get to claim they invented wolves or sea serpents. So what if they borrowed design aspects.
Look when you have 1025 Pokémon there’s bound to be a few similarities,
No kommo-o based Pokémon = no money spent on the game
Ah, another Kommo-o enjoyer?
REAL
Ah yes one of the first fighting dragons
Mom, can I have koraidon?
No we have koraidon at home
Koraidon at home:
@@kanechristopherson5142 the roles should be reversed 😂
Idgaf if they copied Pokémon. If it gets Gamefreak to put some effort into Pokémon for the 1st time in 11 years, I'm game.
The dude who put out that model comparison with Luxray admitted he altered it
"legally distinct" is the phrase you're looking for. Pocket pair got a lawyer to keep them from getting sued.
Tbh this and the heavy use of AI jist make me iffy with this thing
Saw what you want about "muh competition". If you need to copy models 1 to 1, is it really competitio or you are riding the coattails of something far greater than you?
I will just say, tem tem did it way better
tem tem? okay you have to be trolling also theirs literally no proof of ai so i dont know what your talking about
This literally has already been debunked and that the guy lining up the meshes admitted that he adjusted them to fit his narrative and apologised.
Who did those? Where did they write that?
share a source for that
Google this phrase "PSA: User who claimed that Palworld assets are "literally the same" admits he lied"@@ApolJooce
Bruh just look at them
The person who accused them of stealing models from Pokemon already came forward and admitted he lied and forged it all because he saw palworld as animal abuse...
Seems like they took parts from different Pokemon and put them togeth or just combined them. There was one that just looked like Meowth + Jigglypuff.
I don’t understand why people care about if they copied some stuff from pokemon why can’t they just not worry about it and have fun playing the game
I think the issue is the company not putting in the work like they should and still making a profit
Idk man. If I'm gonna give devs $30, I don't want models that are almost 1 to 1 to another game.
Sorry I'm not giving your favorite devs money
@@camharkness oh no i don’t give a shit I just don’t understand why people are complaining
@@cubo_darkinI care because I want people to do their own thing. Art theft is something I care about a lot, and I include assists as art. These models are waaaaaaay too close to just be inspired. Especially the first one.
I am sorry we are not giving your favorite youtuber money for their AI game, but if I am gonna pay 30$ may as well get something original
Cyber Sleuth is the same price and has fully original designs for once
The person that posted the comparisons already has stated they messed with the proportions to make it looks closer than it actually is
This has been debunked with the person who did this saying they “may” have had to stretch the models to fit
I mean they definitely have some stolen assets and designs. But the gameplay and everything is different enough to avoid a lawsuit.
Parody isn't stealing. Chill buddy.
@@d.barrett578 I mean there’s still some stolen assets like the faces some of the pals? There are tons of original ones and I recognize that. However there are ones where it is obvious that it isn’t their original design and you can line them up with other Pokémon faces and see that it is a 1 to 1 match.
@@d.barrett578 the models are literally copy and pasted from pokemon. Learn what words mean 😂
@CR-og5ho They are absolutely not copy and pasted. You have no idea how copyright law or intellectual property works.
@@d.barrett578 lol yeah I'm sure they went out of their way to make their 3d models as close to pokemon's as possible.
Why would ip or copyright law knowledge have anything to do with this? Anyone can see that they're the same models
Palworld is clearly copying Pokemon and its not even close, also the creator is copying Hollow Knight with their new game and BOTW with one if their old. Its blatant and it sucks how many people are defending it while slop like this might just become the new norm :/
I'd rather defend palworld than the buggy trash that Pokémon company releases on switch
@@blackbullet4254 It's not about the gameplay. Its about the artist that work hard on Pokemon, they have nothing to do with the game being buggy
@@Updoggo1brother Pokémon’s copied its fair share of designs
@@daredevil2_074 Doesnt really mean its a good thing, also most of the stolen designs were from older Pokemon games. Both are bad but I'd say Palworld is definitely worse
@@Updoggo1 Pokémon is much more egregious without even color changes
It’s almost like Nintendo bases their Pokémon designs on real life animals?!? Nintendo really trying to get copyright on a cartoon wolf
Mickey Mouse is based on a mouse but looks basically nothing like a real life mouse and they still got the coypright. The design is inspired by real life but not exactly that. Some of Palworld designs just look like they are traced from Pokemon models. There are Fakemon artists taht can make Fakemon based on similar things look entirely different from existing Pokemon. There is no excuse for Palworld, they stole before (Craftopia) and did it again.
Obviously every single fictional dog in the entire history of the entire world is identical. Obviously there is one and only one way to draw a dog.
Pokemon alone absolutely *doesn't* have 20+ different dog Pokemon, each unique and immediately distinct from one another even to non-fans. The Annoying Dog from Undertale is identical to the dog from Full Metal Alchemist in every way, since there is only one way to draw a dog. Wolf Link is identical to Legoshi from Beastars, as they are both dogs, and wolves at that. Scooby-Doo is indistinguishable from Scrappy Doo, as unfortunately the creators were unable to find a way to draw two seperate dogs, as all dogs are identical.
Please stop justifying this stupid argument. I would respect you guys much more if you said "yes it's blatant copyright infringement but the game is fun" than you pretending like you don't have eyeballs.
I’d probably care if I haven’t had more fun with Palworld than I have with Pokemon for a bout a decade
Whether they did or not, Nintendo had it coming.
Palworld is what ppl wanted and had been asking for
To be fair Pokemon have made a pokemon for everything like literally everything
Behold!
My chair pokemon!
🪑
@@Hawkens4k behold rotom the pokemon that can be any electric appliance (not really but 5 versions)
Yes, but you can still make models that aren't almost 1 to 1.
But I guess games like nexiolmon, temtem, and the digimon games don't exist to you.
@@camharkness bro it's not a big deal and is it wrong to be INSPIRED by another thing almost everything can be seen as a copy of something also they actually have made a quality game that is the same shitty ass game as Pokemon it's more like ark then Pokemon to be honest try playing it and you would understand the work they have put into making the game
@@Sterfry_Chickennever said it was bad to be inspired. The stuff I've brought up was inspired. These models are basically just copies.
And I don't know why you're bringing up the rest of the game, I never said anything about the rest of the game, we're talking about the models for these pals.
When you use the same art style, a lot of things will look similar.
PalWorld is OBVIOUSLY transformative as the game plays almost NOTHING like Pokemon.
There is no valid lawsuit here.
This was proven a lie as proportions were off and deloberalty changed to look closer than it actually was. Bro here spreading misinformation. Palworld was being publicly developed for 3 years is pokemon wanted to sue them they already would gave this is just an attempt to stir up pointless controversy
3 years not one original design lmao
Siendo honesto se me hace tonto pensar que Pokemon y Palworld no pueden existir, ya lo hacen Digimon y Yokai Watch. Lo que me molesta la verdad es que si los monstruos parecen pokefusiones salidas de fanarts, rozan demasiado a lo Pokemon, al menos YW y Digimon tienen sus propio arte y características. Oh y también la actitud de los pokehaters que por poder capturar, disparar y matar lo que sea lo hace mejor que Pokémon. Si no te gusta Pokémon, perfecto. Pokémon en definitiva si necesita mejorar los rendimientos y gráficos de los ultimos juegos, estuvieron bien en LgP y LGE, y la novedad de Arceus y la construcción de Personajes en Escarlata y Púrpura estan preciosos. Ojala pudieran tomar los buenos aspectos y ponerlos juntos. Siendo honesto Palworld esta creciendo por trendy, pero una vez el hype caiga, si no se ponen pilas, la gente capaz lo deja de seguir. Pokémon podrá tener sus fallos, pero es una marca demasiado reconocida y quierase o no, estar en tantas cosas (juegos, peluches, coleccionables, útiles) siempre lo mantendrá a tope. Ya lo que si me parece tonto es que la gente ande mandando Amenazas de Mu3rt3 a los artistas de Palworld o a Gamefreak por no poner a tu Pokémon en la dex. Aqui se puede ver la toxidad tanto por fans o disgustos, una cosa es hacer una crítica constructiva y la otra es desear el desvivir de alguien. Espero estés bien Naranjito, saludos ❤
Pepsi was originally created as a coke knockoff. Palworld is Pepsi
Good comparison, because Pepsi sucks 😂
The mesh thing was proven to be a lie.
Edit: the wolf one is just bs. Its a wolf. And again, the meshes were edited by a fanatic who wanted to ruin palworld.
Not saying the designs are not heavily inspired by pokemon, but theres a lot of pokemon who are "borrowing" pretty much their entire design from other games like dragon quest and such. Some are even worse then palworld. If palworld was doing something illegal, Nintendo would have shut it down a LONG time ago.
Dude the guy that tweeted the model comparisons has admitted to faking it because they were pissed that palworld glorified animal abuse towards fictional animals. So no, they didnt steal anything the models in that tweet were reshaped and changed to fit the jackasses narrative.
Still runs better than scarlet and violet
@DuoIingo_Official like xenoblade 3 or tears of the kingdom, or even mario odissey. No wait those run on a switch too... Hmm now thats weird.
Heres the thing. If nintendo did anything close to another game, all the people defending pal world would legit scream and cry that Nintendo is stealing.
that makes no sense!
That's because then Nintendo would be a hypocrit, the palworld devs are not known for being patent trolls or sueing everyone. Just look at Dota 2, no one cares that it shares many features with league because it's fair use. But Nintendo is different because the company is diabolical
Makes perfect sense
Yea, that's the sad truth. It's that people simply love to hate on Pokémon and Nintendo as a whole. I get why, because of all the emulators and stuff that Nintendo takes down. But in the end, it just makes people want to defend a smaller game when they have clearly done something wrong. People look to blame the big names in literally anything, and defend a smaller name. And that's regardless if the bigger one does anything wrong or not. I haven't played Palworld or seen it so I can't say anything about the gameplay. It could be fun, so it doesn't really matter. Designs are 100% copied from Pokémon so all the people saying the gameplay is too different that is just irrelevant.
@@Johan_4587 what has palworld done wrong? You can't copyright a genre of games. Palworld has completely different mechanics from pokemon, this is clearly fair use. Nintendo could do the same but then they're hypocrites for attacking so many fair uses
Funny that the Pokémon fans are more pissed off than Nintendo is
The guy who did the 3d model comparisons you are using admitted to doctoring them and "apologized", saying he altered things to make it look more like plagarism becauze he hates how Palworld "glorifies animal abuse". Check your sources my guy. Bad look.
Can you provide a source for what you're saying? It's more helpful if you provide a source to show he is wrong.
@@skanaraki2161 RUclips does not allow links and deletes any comments with links in them. You are also just lazy and could Google it yourself in 30 seconds if you actually cared. But just to really drive this home Google this....
"The guy who accused Palworld of stealing pokemon models by comparing them had apologize for making it up reddit"
Also doesn't matter becauee Palworld is parody and has unique designs with small components inspired by Pokémon. But for the children who don't understand copyright and parody it drives home the point more to see this guy faked the comparisons.
@@d.barrett578 Thank you. I personally don't have an issue with them copying Pokémon designs, but you can't look at their designs and say they aren't ripping off Pokémon. The similarities are waaay to close. That being said, people are having fun with the game and I'm not about to tell them what to do with their time, I just have an issue with the people arguing that they haven't ripped off Pokémon.
@@skanaraki2161 For it to be plagarism they would have to be a near 1 to 1 copy of the original. And while some designs are similar it is nowhere near 1 to 1. It's usually a similar eye shape, body shape, or anatomical feature to a pokemon but with everything else being different which falls into the clear Parody Palworld was going for. Designs are similar for sure, but far from straight up copies. But again it's clear the devs intention was for many Pals to make you think of various Pokemon.
@@d.barrett578 I don't think that something has to be 1 to 1 for it to be plagiarism. And you're right they aren't just straight up copies, but the similarities speak for themselves. At any rate, it is what it is.
No doubt in my mind they took the 3d models and changed them just enough to hopefully get away with it. Some pals are different enough but some are straight rips
Honestly, no probably not. The thing is if you create 3D models for games that have animation you require a mesh with good topology. This means good edgeflow and other things but in general it means models with similar anatomy are going to have similar topology. This is really only the case with modern games as you don't have to fight with optimisation as much. You could grab a model of a wolf from any modern game and compare them and you'd find they are so similar that they could be copied.
Dude, the guy who compared the models admitted to manually scaling them to make them look more similar than they actually are.
The only thing they took is maybe some inspiration.
Tiny bit if they change more details, then I think they would be in the clear
The game is still early access and I think in future updates they might update the few Pals that are cutting it a bit too close!
@@MunchingOrange yeah, that could be true, but will game freak give them that I don’t know, but I hope you’re right, because Pokémon with the guns is some thing I need to watch
No, they didn't. they are in the clear. Copyright does not work like these outraged Twitter heroes think it does.
The Palworld team has been very open in the development process when showing off some of the designs months before the games release. If this was going to be a legal issue for Nintendo it would have been before it came out.
People who complain about the designs are only doing it because its a potential challenge to game freak.
That’s exactly it Nintendo knew about these designs before it was released they’re just mad because palworld made more money in less time than they did off pokemon for the last 5 years
Pokémon can't sue palworld because all palworlds creatures are drown by hand just because some Pokémon lovers are butt hurt Pokémon isn't winning the lawsuits they sending death threats to game devs LOL get a life sorry somepeople got to giving the people what they want before the poke goblins did 😂😂😂😂
How are they drawn by hand but have the same 3D models as multiple pokemon?
Now say it without crying
You… do know they are 3d modeled right? Just like pokemon are
Some were drawn by hand.. My hand. They stole some of my fakemon designs. Blatantly.
@@kiedisboughen5318I was waiting for someone to say this out loud
Bro who cares its fun
If they stole the designs, pokemon stole dragon quests design
I already know for a fact they didn't copy, and the model comparison guy edited the models to make it look that way. As for Boltmane, it's still coming. Just not implemented yet.
Honestly, who the hell cares? It’s a video game. If you don’t like it, don’t play. And don’t mess with people who do enjoy playing Palworld.
Yeah, who cares if palworld might possibly be breaking copyright laws and using pokemon for their own game?
Wow touched a nerve did he? 😂 He literally never said anything about the people who are playing it and yes EVERY video game has the right to be criticized.
So, we shouldn't call out scummy behavior? We should just be quiet?
@@camharkness again, its a video game. Pokemon isn’t and shouldn’t be mad. They’re one of the biggest franchises in the world. You really think they’re mad or worried?
@@brianhawk8446that does not change anything really.
Scummy behavior should still be called out. I'm sure you'd call out Nintendo if they did anything like this.
Still infinitely more fun than the last several Pokemon games. Which is why Im sticking with Palworld.
I think we should look into Dragonquest and how Pokemon totally copied of some designes from Dragonquest. Nintendo is such a hypocrate company...
Personally? I couldn't give less of a shit if they are copies or not. Palworld does what Nintendon't and Palworld is a lotta fun. Maybe pokemon should take notes because I am sick of being the good guy in pokemon, I wanna be a bad guy and Palworld gives you that choice!
So this might be a hot take that might get blown up out of proportion more then I intended but so what if they did? I don’t think it was intentional if it was. However if you enjoy the game you enjoy it that’s not a crime and at least the concept is unique with how it decided to incorporate inspiration from other games. That being said I understand this is a hot topic but honestly regardless of which side of the spectrum you decide to die on it’s up to you to decide whether you want to play it or not. Nobody is forcing you to play it if you don’t want to play.
I agree with this 100%. Folks need to chill out over this
I think the main thing, if palworld truly did just rip pokemon assets, then it doing as well as it is would be unhealthy for the gaming sphere as a whole. If it’s seen you can take assets from other franchises and slap a different coat of paint on it, and make a massive amount of money while you’re at it, then that’s won’t incentivize new things being made. Not saying that’s what’s happening here, or that’s what will happen, but that’s what I assume the uproar is about
ikr, like pokemon only has designs they came up with first right? no monster games have sheep, slimes, swords, wolves, spiders, man eating plants, lions, see what im going for here, most these "rip offs" simply go off the same idea as a pokemon aslo went off from, Pokemon wasnt the first monster game and wont be the last, not to mention them pumping out mid games for years and still selling millions, Pokemon need better competition to finally make an actually good game
I get what you're saying, but there's a huge difference between "We both just so happened to make anthropomorphic rabbits" VS "This looks almost exactly like cinderace". Character design is more complex than just inspiration, and irs highly unlikely so many designs would look so close to Pokémon by pure accident. Like, take a look at any Digimon design, Yokai Watch design, etc. and they look almost entirely different from any Pokémon despite many sharing similar inspirations.
Now, I personally don't think the blatant similarity is a big deal, I welcome it even, but it's a massive stretch to say it isn't there
@@KidPrarchord95 aside from the Cinderace one the rest are huge stretches, the wolf one the sheep and llama all said to be rip offs despite it clearly just being 2 separate designs based off the same thing, tons of games including Pokemon have done shit like this, look at Rock salt Pokemon in Scarlet and Violet, it's a Mario mushroom then a Minecraft pig ffs, Pokemon needed this wake up call, they're not the only ones who can make monster collector games and needed a blow to hopefully wake up and actually make a good polished game and not pumping out buggy mess after buggy mess
@@KidPrarchord95This case is exactly the same with monster quest and pokemon. Shit ton of pokemon looks like from that game however they cant sue pokemon
@@xrazer5if your wake up call is a game that plagiarizes your models, thats a very pathetic wake up call
It doesnt matter how much you want to meat ride it as a "pokemon killer" and "a true good game unlike SV", the fact they plagiarized designs and models remain the same, is illegal and should be called out
Lol that wierd serpentine pal has the same animation as Serperior. Same animation speed and everything
Pokesimps stay coping. All the hate for this game is unwarranted and is better than anything game freak has made in at least the past decade (excluding arceus) I would know because I’ve played almost every pokemon game and I’ve almost finished palworld and this game is just better.
They definitely took heavy inspiration from Pokémon. But this is no where near plagiarism
Then what is the parameters for plagiarism if this is not? A sentence in thesis research that not on quote will be tag as plagiarism in a research.
@@alfanrizkyarchitect2249😂 the game mechanics are so different from pokemon so nintendo can't sue palworld unless they are exact same mechanic as Evocreo
@@k-BlazeWuthringwaves30not how it works, let’s say I steal a model of link, change a little bit of it and throw it into a game that is nothing like Zelda, that’s still plagiarism
@blakebuckley1018 So Celtic Guardian from the Yugioh TCG...
@@LatinGiudo817 technically it looks more like Link
i’m shocked you didn’t choose the real worst offender. while the lion was removed before release, there is a water serpent pal who’s face is exactly 1:1 to serperiors when you line the models up, but they also copy and pasted Primarinas hair down to every tiny detail
He shows that one at the end
This is lies the guy who "released the models" already apologized for lying wake up folks
Those models were already debunked, the guy came out and apologized for lying
That's straight up misinfoemation. Byofrog talked about scaling the models (so they are the same size), he did not alter the mesh or models themselves in any other way. Some people also fabricated a tweet saying that he "fabricated the evidence" because "Palworld glorified animal abuse", a complete lie.
They literally support AI and NFTS, and also have stolen from fakemon on twitter
I wish people would ditch this game
Proof?
Im not ditching out of pure hate for nintendo fans
@@elmundodekyky7335 i forget the name, but somebody did a comparison of their own fakemon design against one of the pal designs, some skinny one that makes a circle? I need to find it again
@@DookJob so, you have no actual morals or brains, you just do things to hurt people who do not know you exist?
@@bellsroselps9548so zero proof
Regardless if the designs were inspired by or are direct rips of Pokémon the fact remains that Palworld is different enough to hold.its own.
From what a lot of game developers said and even some people that used to work at Nintendo legal team. Palworld definitely stole pokemon design and possibly some pokemon model. It's not because palworld team fuse pokemon with Ai or by themselves while trying to make them different enough that they're safe from a lawsuit. It mostly seems that Nintendo is waiting for the right opportunity that won't backfire at them or fail.
@@tarlaihope Nintendo was already denied a lawsuit.
@@philippecharitat467 the law just doesn't care enough to look for the truth about this drama. the thing is you can't get lawsuit for the gameplay even though it's similar to another game. but for stealing design you could get a lawsuit and even though the end result is different enough to be legal, the method to get those end result aren't. So it's just the law that say they don't give a fuck about searching the truth for the lawsuit against palworld. And funny thing is I have no problem with palworld, it seems fun even though it as apparently a pretty good amount of bug. but I won't support the company that created palworld because they're lazy and did use Ai in the past and so probably for palworld. I mean they're literally struggling with making pvp in palworld, because if you look at it that's the one thing they can't steal already existing idea from another game and you can't do it correctly if they're lazy when trying to make pvp work. In the end I'd just hope palworld was actually in the hand of competent and dedicated developers that wanted some interesting pokemon like game.
They directly stole some of my fakemon designs.
Of corse they copied pokemon, but as long as they did it legally, Nintendo can kick rocks
Feels like what I would do in an assignment. Just read a bunch of academic articles and rearrange and rephrase them so that the plagiarism check meter would be low
Oh it most definitely did
Thankyou munch for using your platform to speak on this, it’s fine for people to play the game. The plagiarism needs to still be called out.
Idk how more players can't see both sides like I'm also enjoying the game but can still acknowledge some of the designs are just a little too derivative
What’s crazy to me is while I don’t disagree with your statement but yet no one is calling out or I don’t see this community complaining about Scarlet and Violet that runs below 30Fps that payed full price for a game yet they moved on to dlc for a game that runs worse than the game that outdone them with the open world aspect. It gets outperformed by this same studio using the same algorithm that S&V had. I think this community has its priorities backwards imo
And taking certain characteristics of a pokemon but making a creature that is overall something very different isn't plagiarism. The entire concept of the game is to riff on the idea of pokemon and its world, and the dark reality of what a real world pokemon would look like. And a part of what makes that parody so effective is designs being reminiscent of pokemon, but not 1 to 1 copies of pokemon designs. Ya'll need to chill, acting like you specialize in copyright and IP law and calling it "plagiarism" is wild.
I get the whole comparison but at the same time I just want also point out it's not like Nintendo as original (How many Pokemon are based on a Rabbit so on...) Add even if it is similar it's not like at least so far we have concrete proof they even used the Pokemon models or etc (which is a similar thing some people attacked Yokai watch and Temtem for with similar designs)
I found out about this it’s not true the person who did this shrunk the models to fit together they’re not close at all to the same proportion 😡 a lot of people are tripping because you really love Pokémon but if you love Pokémon, you were still supported and not trip about this game, and if Pokémon really cared, they would make games as good as this. The only time they did was legends, Arceus, and they didn’t even really want to acknowledge that game until it got popular 😅
I mean, they don’t look bad. They do look very derivative of pokemon, however.
Ah yes, after over 1000 pokemon, the basic designs for animals will never look similar to another game, so pal world is obviously coping pokemon
I mean digimon managed to make their creatures look pretty damn different
Digimon, nexiolmon, temtem, and so many other Pokemon like games exist that don't have models that are basically 1 to 1.
But I guess those don't exist to you, correct?
Palworld has near 1:1 replicas of my fakemon, and their models are clearly lifted.
@DuoIingo_Officialnah, even the wolf is a rip off. There are multiple ways to design wolves, its even showed by Orange
No with how many pokemon its difficult to make something that doesn't seem a little similar
And yet so many games managed to do so 😅
Apparently Digimom and Temtem dont exists😂
Dude, dont be so spineless
@@mysticpumpkin8520Temtem is gonna look diferent because it has a different artstyle than pokemon.
I bet you no matter what they had enough lawyers to tell them what they could get away with and what they couldn’t
Why are people complaining, the game is different enough, just because some models are similar doesn't mean it's a 1 for 1 copy of pokemon
why not show the one thats a complete copy of Decidueye
I think they were lazy and did copy the models, but in the end made a far better game with a small team of dedicated devs rather than the shitty games from the billion dollar industry
I mean yeah it would be easier to make a better game when you don't have to do 80% of the work lol
So, as long as you enjoy the game, theft is good, got it.
Cool theory except it’s wrong because none of the models in pal world are copy pasted from Pokémon
@@Ben-zg8xk lol sure
I thimk they were lazy and did copy the models, but thats justified as long as I like the product😂
Sure dude sure
There’s 1000 Pokémon trying to be very different from each other
Just let palworld by it's quite a good game
You don't see animal geography or green Peace making a fuss of a squrtel or other once like arbok
So it’s ok to steal if it’s a good game?
Pokemon doesn’t own that type of art style. They don’t own four legged creatures with manes. They don’t own serpents. They don’t own two eyes and a toothy grin.
Was it inspired? Yes. Did they steal? No.
All the examples you gave were by someone who admitted to tampering with the models to make them more alike lol
I think they actually copied some of the Pokemons but regardless the game looks fun as hell.
One of the most obvious examples is the fat cat with no neck, if you can't see the two pokémon they got fuse together. Something's wrong with you
It doesn't even matter, they're not the same assets they were made individually. They look similar but none were actually taken from the games models.
Not trying to be mean but the better question is who cares. After how many copies that sold this is for sure going to light a fire under game freak to do better in the next pokemon game. Palworld is fine in my book and I don't care if the copied anything from pokemon.
That last one looked like cresselia with me unable to see the bottom
Can't forget dinossum who's just a green goodra with a hat on
Have y'all watched the animated Alice in wonderland because if you said Cheshire inspired you somehow forgot he's all eyes and mouth till he fully manifests
aint no way... at this point i'm almost 96% sure that palworld has the same production investor as pokemon, or else they're testing gamefreak ninja's capability too well.
Truthfully speaking, it's hard not to take inspiration from another source when making a product like this. It isn't easy to come up with designs ot creatures and it helps to have something familiar but it is important to make clear distinctions where your product and the inspirational materials end. These designs while being structurally similar to certain Pokémon, there are enough differences to make them stand out on their own. At the most I'd say they are skirting the line enough to get Gamefreak's attention but not enough to be a blatant copy of their own materials.
Whats really amusing is that this game has been KNOWN for 3 years, the trailer was released 3 years ago and only now people started hating it like where was the hate 3 years ago, y'all change up so fast