The sincerity with which Christianity is treated in Faith is really nice. As someone who ditched the Catholic church due to the terrible actions of local priests, seeing priests as heroes in media really helps to heal a specific part of my soul.
@maya993 God Bless. I'll pray for you. Nobody should ever have had to go through what you did. Jesus still loves you, and I'm sure He would love for you to come home to Him.
@@maya993 I feel this exact sentiment so strongly. There's a part of me that mourns the loss that I'll never be able to connect with religion properly as all of my religious friends can, but it's media like FAITH that lets me interact and grapple with the ideas in a way that doesn't trigger my flight or fight response. So glad Airdorf is such a cool dude in that aspect.
*Timestamps* 0:00 Opening 3:38 About Airdorf & his inspirations 14:13 Airdorf meeting Markiplier 22:49 Airdorf trying to describe his game to others 29:16 Others’ reactions/ opinions to Faith 32:02 Bonding over Sunday school 32:45 Wendigoon’s opinions on Faith 36:35 Discussing John’s character / forgiveness 40:05 Symbolism & “the being of light” 48:20 Faith: Amy 52:51 Faith: Gary & his cult 58:09 Faith: John & Lisa the twins 1:00:17 God & His intervention in the story of Faith 1:04:50 John being a tender lil guy 1:05:52 Writing & art 1:08:11 Rotoscoping 1:14:16 Chapters inspired by songs 1:17:26 Satanic Panic & the 80s 1:25:33 Faith & other games 1:34:14 Faith: Michael 1:46:50 Faith: Garcia 1:48:20 Awww 1:50:26 Fr. Garcia 2:05:05 Movies & TV 2:07:24 The church & Sister Belle 2:22:20 Rain of 🕷️🕷️ 2:22:38 The demons & the Unholy Trinity 2:26:16 The demons 2:28:37 The note: Amy’s doll 2:30:50 The note: Missionary in South America 2:37:30 Easter eggs & the Second Death 2:44:03 The note: John in the Psych ward 2:46:12 Why would the cult want John out? 2:47:46 Easter eggs & Faith music 2:59:30 Second Death ritual 3:13:09 What are some subtle portrayals of Christianity you find interesting? / Movie suggestions 3:21:24 Future of Faith / Closing
I know Airdorf wants to make his own story for his scariest horror game but I think the style and gameplay of Faith would be perfect for a game of Blood Meridian, especially the Rotoscope scenes and some of the imagery of The Judge would blend perfectly
It sounds a tad bit corny, but Faith got me thinking about religion again. I played the game when I was still agnostic, not knowing if I truly believed in God or not. Faith getting me interested in religion again made me do some personal exploration. And now I am a believer again. To think, a game with Atari graphics influenced me to the point where I converted. How funny is that?
It’s not silly at all! A lot of people have a very childish view of spirituality, and it DOES turn away a lot of people. This game goes into detail of the deep elements of Christianity and the real horrors involved with Lucifer, demons, and sin itself with it taints our free will. Demons are HORRIFYING, and it’s really awesome to see Christians highlighting the very dark realities that exist in the physical world.
Man, this game has one of the best endings of all time. It only hits home after you realize how close John was close to success, but had to suffer thru infinitely much more because he initially traded his faith for fear. One single word just brought it all home. AMEN. Shivers.
i may not be a religious fan of Wendigoon and Airdorf but it's IMPOSSIBLE to not appreciate and learn about the connections to religion and redemption and faith, it's amazing!!!!!! thank u for this interview :D
i thought EXACTLY the same!! im agnostic and really not interested in spirituality for myself, but i deeply respect it for what it does for other people. and seeing all the passion and thought going into these references and parallels and all the deep meaning, not even 'just' spiritual but so deeply _human_ and personal, it is really moving and always will be infinitely better than any hollow imitation of those themes could possibly be.
@@martenmaartenYou cannot be lukewarm. “You will be spit from the mouth of the father.” When you say you’re agnostic…you mean you define yourself by your incapability of knowing the truth. The problem with that is all human beings are in that exact position. By deciding you’ll be defined by your inability to decide what is truth…you’ve only sealed your fate to fall for lies.
@@matthewblackledge5464 So you have to be an extremist like you? Well I am not lukewarm. I know that your god is as evil as your devil and in the end of this age Adi Shakti will come with Her Husband Kalki to defeat Yahweh, Jesus and Satan and throw them and their devout followers into Naraka to be punished by King Yama and the Yama Kings and Queens.
@@matthewblackledge5464 Your first sentence is false. If someone doesn’t have enough information to determine what they define is knowledge, then they are lukewarm. (they can also be lukewarm if they are slightly above room temperature, like a newly dead body!) Your second sentence is an assertion that you didn’t provide rational justification for claiming as knowledge. Your third sentence is false, because it assumes that, “because you don’t know this one thing, you can’t know anything!” - That’s a logical fallacy! Your fourth sentence was built upon the third, and is flawed due to the transitive property of logic for that reason… but I will let it slide as observation. Your fifth sentence is also false. I have a lot more confidence in my knowledge that I am speaking English right now than I am that Jesus really cursed a fig tree. belief and knowledge are not the same thing but they are related: all knowledge is belief - but not all belief is knowledge.
@@matthewblackledge5464 first of all, let the guy believe his own belief and you believe yours. You can't judge and correct someone's belief if they're believing in it and you're not.
I can confidently say that as an atheist, the game does not come across as preachy and is in fact, fucking rad. Awesome interview and looking forward to Chapter 4!
for me, it's on the level of Prince of Egypt in terms of stories that are deeply about Christianity that i think have universal appeal - well, gore and spooks aside since obviously some people aren't about all that. i'm not religious nor spiritual either, but i think everyone wants to see John Ward succeed - doesn't matter who you are, you can clearly see that the cult's actions are heinous and horrifying! it's very cool, and i love it *particularly* because it's not using the faith on a tacky surface level. respectful and genuine, deep and interesting, and terrifying!!
Here is an interesting question for you Do you feel the religious themes of renewing faith were still kind of emotional and effective? It kind of gave me the same feeling as the end of the Grey which is a much more atheistic story about self reliance lol But since you are open about being an atheist I am interested in how you feel about the drama itself Feel free to answer my friend Coming from someone who believes in God but doesn't quite know why or how ha
@@johnstone2029 I personally still found it emotional and effective because I was invested in Father Ward as a character, so my personal beliefs (or lack thereof) is irrelevant in regards to his growth and arc.
As a catholic, this stuff is absolutely down my alley. This interview is so great thank you both for doing this!! I love how much of the symbolism and story parts Airdorf thought through and how much it delves into faith and the themes of our lives
As a fellow catholic, I love stories where Catholicism is portrayed as a force of good. I don’t get to see it enough so it makes me happy when we get it. Too often in media Catholicism is the butt of the “joke” and it’s so tiresome 😭😭
@@sakurawindss92 I've got a couple short stories in my head that center around catholicism that I want to write. If no one is gonna give me the cool catholicism related stories I'll write them myself. I have a very specific scene in my head I want to write. It's currently not connected to anything but I want to write it someday
I’m a deconstructed ex Baptist, I was seriously hurt by the church, but hearing you two talk and seeing this awesome work of art airdorf has made has made me so happy. So good to be reminded of the good parts of church and good believers ❤
It's a shame that the brethren we have are sometimes the stumbling blocks that cause other christians to fall and stumble... I hope that you're well despite what has happened
I'm seriously sorry to hear that. Please keep in mind that "christians" may not love but Christ definitely does. I was hurt by religion too, but He found me where I was at. My heart goes out to you.
As a hardcore Faith fan who has rewatched this game multiple times, I’m realizing how little I knew about Airdorf and about the themes in this game. This interview is amazing!
I LOVE that Airdorf compared the possible sequel with John and Garcia running around and hunting demons to Supernatural, because that is literally the first thing that came to mind when I saw that scene.
I was half expecting one of them to reference "it's really cute that you wanna defeat me with the power of friendship or whatever, but then again, I am THE Devil from THE Bible" during the whole being-of-light-appearing-to-John segment.
As a catholic i appreciate how he handled everything. It's always nice to have Christian unity were we can at aside doctrinal differences and focus on the important things like the message of christ and the power of God and forgiveness. God bless you Wendi and Airdorf! Ps: we do have married priests, but they are very rare
Doesn't that have something to do with integrating disgruntled Lutheran ministers into Catholicism, or are there married priests who were Catholic for their whole ministry?
@@MrDrumStikz That is merely accidental. Deacons can be married, they are a part of the priesthood. Priests cannot. In some Orthodox traditions, deacons and priests can be married, but bishops cannot.
@@MrDrumStikz Eastern Catholics like Greek Catholics, Maronites, etc. can marry. Roman Catholics are 98% of Catholics though so those eastern churches are relatively small. Google "sui iuris" if you want to read more.
@@MrDrumStikz Married men can become Byzantine Catholic priests, but can’t marry if ordained first. An Anglican priest may become a Catholic priest if married. Roman Rite priests must be celebrate
I was very close to my Grandma, possibly closer to her than my mother. She was very religious and was a pastor for 50+ years who had a doctorate in theology. She learned Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek and she mentored and helped a lot of people, learning the Bible in all its forms and trying to spread kindness. She passed in 2021 from a brain tumor. I felt so guilty because I had never felt connected to my faith or even understood the appeal despite trying my entire life, it just never gave me a sense of comfort, it felt like I was always putting on a mask. I was a self-proclaimed agnostic. FAITH made me cry. While I am still agnostic, it’s helped me understand a lot more and relate to John’s struggles in the journey, and I feel like my grandma would love the work you guys put out, so thank you.
Honestly, the idea that both Faith and Dusk are in the same universe would explain why the FBI hasn’t gotten involved after 490 babies went missing. They’re overloaded with all the other shit going on in that messed-up world.
The whole 490 missing babies would be much easier to explain if the clinic WAS actually an abortion clinic. As dark as it sounds: What's a better sacrifice than someone no one is going to miss? Sedate the woman, induce birth with drugs, then keep the premature baby.
the idea of father garcia scaring up john into doing his work while dressed as clown is hilarious ngl, id lose it... bonus points if using the shotgun as well for extra effectiveness
Man, as a Christian, hearing you two talk about FAITH is so refreshing. I don’t know anything about this game, but y’all make me want to play it just from your edifying conversation. As a fellow Baptist, I love your videos, Wendigoon. And, as a confessional Baptist, I especially love that airredorf shied away from the 2cv in the games. Y’all are awesome.
Well he makes it clear that it wasn't his main intention you know. He wanted to make it big by doing that but he clearly put a ton of passion into it lol
@@goora1866Why did you immediately get defensive? No one was hating on the big game maker guy that doesn't know you, calm down, he doesn't need to be protected 😂
For real, when creators ignore that aspect of the creative process, it isn't giving you the full picture of what influenced it's creation. I appreciate him saying that, because it gives me such a clearer lense to see these new indie games through. Most of the games i like, the devs would never dream of going this into detail abojt how the game was made, but that part is so interesting to me. Makes WAY more sense why a lot of other... less well made games😅 fall into a lot of the same old tropes, while Faith stays feeling fresh. I think he did a GREAT job of balancing streamablity and playabitly without sacrificing the games quality.
Hearing you talking about miracles, it makes me think about how hard its been to believe in them. I have been trying to get a teaching job for a year. Applying left and right I finally had an interview that I felt went well. As it has been such a challenge I honestly cant even comprehend actually getting the job even though it did. I feel like that will be a miracle. Its been a rough few years, but hearing you talk about it helps, I hope god is out there and he cares about my life.
God Bless. It's not super easy for Christians either, I have times when I don't "feel it". But that's OK, merely having uncertainties and bad feelings isn't a sin. I've decided just to trust Him and face the unknown (to me, anyway) future one day at a time. 'Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof". Luke 12:6-7 is a favourite if mine as well - God cares about and pays attention to even something as small as a single sparrow, so He surely will not ignore us, His beloved.
The crazy thing is that you might not get the job and that fact in itself can turn into a miracle. It’s dumbfounding what God will do to bring you closer to Him, and anything that does that is truly the miracle.
as a person who already not going to church or believe in church for long time due to religion trauma, playing FAITH the series is kinda slightly heal my soul a little bit. it makes me believe there's a priest who really put their dedication to learn, and use the value of christianity to really protect others and deliver the true sense of "peace", " kindness", "the Loves of God/the Whisper of God". and it really captures perfectly of human struggling to make their faith stand strong. FATHER GARCIA IS BALLIN, AND FATHER JOHN IS AMAZING OMG.
The whole thing about John's note was wow, because I thought he was being unintentionally gaslit by the psychiatrist cause to the psychiatrist the whole story would seem like john has major delusions, despite all of it being real. Though slightly disappointed Wendi never asked about the "fight it John" line, cause it has a similar color to the being of light, and I don't think satan would want John to fight back.
That's because the voice saying "FIGHT IT, JOHN" isn't Satan, it's God (or a guardian angel). If you remember Airdorf and Wendigoon mention several verses of 'Satan appearing with the guise of an angel', the figure of light that John pleaded to on the initial exorcism was Satan, who was in the guise of a holy being. Also, Satan is named "The Father of All Lies", and he WAS one of God's most beautiful archangels before he fell, taking a third of all the angels down with him. So to summarize: Satan took the form of the being of light during the initial exorcism, and the voice is actually God (or his guardian angel) telling John to fight the demon during the Alu fight.
2:31:36 when i read "San la Muerte" in the notes I was like "It can't be THAT San la Muerte... right?" but finding out that it really was the same San la Muerte that some relatives worship was a great surprise (and that Airdorf even visited Argentina too) I hope to see more Argentinian culture reference in the next chapter (something about El Gauchito Gil maybe?) really love Faith and Wendi :)
I think it is funny how Airdorf told that boy that Yahweh wouldn't scare him the way San La Muerte did when Yahweh of the Bible is way more scary and cruel then San La Muerte. Though admittedly my favorite Latin American Death Deity is Santa Muerte from Mexico. She is kind of like their version of our Kali Ma In Hindiusm.
@@goora1866 But isn't the god of the old testament Yahweh's father so both of them are in cohoots and are part of the same godhead? Unless of course you are a Gnostic.
Timestamps for myself: 1:04:40 - John's a bit sensitive. He's a tender little guy 2:11:15 - confirmation of john and lisa being the only two left at the church 2:16:25 - still a priest. Just not approved by the Vatican 2:24:00 - no. 15 Gary Encounter. Also info on second death during gary fight 2:45:05 - Gary wrote the psyche ward note!? And his reasoning for getting John out 3:21:40 - devious update
Incredibly insightful interview. I'm not a practicing Christian, but I was more of one when I was younger, and their conversations on the religious themes around the game were really interesting and almost nostalgic-- I was kind of surprised that I was able to follow along with Airdorf citing passages and all that. FAITH is a wonderful, wonderful game.
It's really nice to know that, whether John went to live a mentee life with Garcia or live a more peaceful life with his sister, that both would be the Good Ending for his character and arc. :')
Airdorf's pleasant sense of humor is refreshing, and nostalgic for my time in the South (That Boy Aint Right, its 6am!). I didn't go to many Sunday School Services, but maybe I would have if he was the teacher.
Yea over here in Southeast Asia, black magic and hauntings and paranormal things are very common especially in rural areas lmao like people talk about seeing tuyuls or genderuwos or pocongs or kuyangs like talking about the weather. Sending hexes and curses to someone is very widely practiced, that people know what to look for when weird things happen, such as: go around your house or your shop and dig around, and you'll probably find a packet of soil (usually soil from someone's grave) or a clump of hair wrapped inside a paper with spells written on it. There's a lot of interesting and spooky stuff here
@@redline841 And hopefully the indigenous Pagans will stage their own reclamations and eradicate Christianity and Islam. We honestly need a new Lakshmi Bai and Lady Nata.
I think Faith, Joel Haver and a bunch of people looking back at stuff like old Ralph Bakshi animated films have really brought rotoscoping back as a particular form of animation with its own feel. It’s really cool to see.
I honestly can't wait for Wendigoon's finished video of this series in his main channel. IH voicing Gary?!! That'll be a fun watch. The game is such an amazing experience that I always recommend my friends to play this especially during Halloween. Also, congrats to Airdorf for getting a lot of recognition from making this masterpiece. I didn't even know that each game is based off the lyrics of a song. Looking forward to Faith Chapter 4!
Talking about Garcia using a weapon, in our weird west tabletop session we had three big things that could stop the unholy. Consecrated Silver bullets, Consecrated Salt, and one called “Kerosene Sulfate.” Our alchemist coated little glass vials with silver and filled them with the chemical. Silver let the bullet in, then the sulfate set them on fire on the inside.
4:46 That's actually a pretty funny and interesting way to establish a name lol. The first thing my oldest son ever said, when he was about 8 months old, was a parroted line we would tell him when we sat him down on the barstool at our breakfast nook: "Don't fall, you'll get hurt." His actual words were, "don't fall; get hoyt." My wife and I just stopped in our tracks and looked at each other, then started cracking up. It completely caught us off guard because you wouldn't expect your baby's first dialogue to basically be a whole ass sentence lol. When I told my parents about it they said, "it's better than YOUR first word; your grandfather would always joke around and mess with you so you repeated the word 'SHOWGIRLS' with enthusiasm." My family went to Vegas every other year for vacation and it was apparently significant enough to where THAT was my first bit of character dialogue 😆.
My brother was like completely silent for his first like 3 years and his very first word was the sentence "mama, I want that cookie" in reference to how he was addressing his mother in hopes if acquiring an aforementioned cookie. Pretty fun story, all things considered
I bought this purely because it is such a breath of fresh air to have a game out there that actually gives Christianity proper shine. Not some corrupt or villainous religion like so many enjoy portraying them as, but one of humility and unwavering devotion even in the face of great evil. Excellent work.
I'm Jewish and I absolutely adore this game. I love how respectful it is towards religion, but still manages to be one of the most terrifying things I've ever played. It's also neat seeing this demon that's present in both Judaism and Christianity.
Thanks for this interview! Though I ain't religious, I love that the both of you discussed the game and its relevancy to your experiences with being practicing Christians. Really sheds a light on the nuances of the game and gives a perspective I couldn't have been able to understand myself.
i'm 10 minutes into the interview and hearing airdorf talk has unlocked memories of me as a kid falling asleep listening to interviews/talkshows on my dingy $1 battery fm radio from a garage sale back in like 2010 lmao, oddly nostalgic, thank you
If there are any two people that I've been longing to hear talk to each other, it's Wendigoon and Airdorf. FAITH was one of my most favorite horror game series and I'm glad I could finally hear him talk about it with one of my most favorite youtubers! :)
Faith is definitely my favorite horror game of all time and it's so nice to see that Airdorf is such an incredibly creative and amazing person! The interview was great, love both of you guys
I like the idea of the cross country game with John and Garcia bc that would kinda be like Oregon Trail like he described it as to his family. Very good interview, he seems like a great dude.
I think Faith is a fantastic piece of art, be it as a critical piece, or otherwise, however Airdorf being so upfront and so intelligent with his wording and his intentions with the game is so damn refreshing, the game never comes off as preachy or "love god or else" messages that a lot of judeochristian media has, and the fact that Father Garcia, a Spanish speaking man wearing a cross made of wood that has forsaken the clerical order in order to fight the actual threats that harm actual people is so very like the typical Mexican small town old father, tired, grumpy, but understading of man and his plight. Fantastic stuff Wendigoon, thank you for the interview.
FAITH will always have a special place in my heart because it was my barrier to entry with Horror games in general. I'll always appreciate Airdorf for giving me the courage (by scaring the crap outta me) to try more games. If anyone is aiming to try the Good Christian Boy challenge - I wish you luck!
Its interesting that Airdorf mentions that he gets praise from both ends of the belief spectrum, because as an agnostic who refuses to be defined or restricted by a single belief system, what I find most compelling about the game (and Airdorf himself) is that it/he presents the themes of belief stripped of any dogma, ritual or pretense. John is an excommunicated priest. Garcia (arguably) kidnapped a boy and carries a shotgun. But they are our heroes. The game is not shoving morality down our throats, it is simply presenting a case for good vs evil, both within ourselves and without. Quite frankly, the characters could be of any religion or denomination and the impact of its message would remain thr same. Faith is not a religious game. It is a call to simply devote yourself to being a source of good in the world, and doing what is right when it is asked of you.
Not a great take. The creator is catholic. Exorcisms are catholic capabilities. The game is a catholic game. Open to everyone, yes. But it strengthens catholic faith.
John quoting, “faith without works is death also,” was such a well written moment. You can interpret it as John grimly acknowledging his failure to stop Gary. A dark acceptance that he tried so hard but ultimately was not strong enough. Didn’t truly believe in himself. Or, you can see it as John mocking Gary knowing that even if he dies he finally has his faith in himself again and he only got that far because he had finally redeemed himself.
Super Miriam was easily my favorite part of the trilogy- I was so exasperated after fighting the first two forms that when I got hit during the finale I sat back in my chair in frustration only to jolt forward again upon realizing I wasn't dead. John's prayer during that final boss gave me goosebumps, it gave me that second wind I needed to push on
here in Argentina to this day, I still find shrines to san la muerte in some streets where people do not usually pass like close to some train tracks or lonely sections in parks, I even know a family that they wont let their kids invite friends inside because all of the decorations to san la muerte they have there
This timing for me was wild. I just started listening to the Chilluminati podcast a couple weeks ago while I work and just listened to the Airdorf episode last Thursday, picked up Faith after that, and played it over stream with my friends over the weekend when this interview comes out so I can listen to it at work on Monday.
Airdorf telling us that future faith stuff will be similar to resident evil or silent hill, as a survival horror fan, has made me extremely excited. Maybe Garcia’s “methods” of fighting demons will have a bigger role?
Yeah the East Coast has some weird names for places. Like Rhode Island has Purgatory Chasm, and believe it or not it’s actually a beautiful view and a nice hike through some pretty woods
very excited to watch through this all. i became obsessed with faith last year (although it only lasted a week lol) and i still think about it some. im broke so i couldn't play it, so i watched the stream vod of you playing it. uh anyways, i hope everyone reading this comment is having a good day
The fact that Faith manages to not be preachy and still be very, very religious, that blows my mind. So many works are either preachy, or don't take the religious ideals to heart, or are denouncing organized religion (which is great, but not that unique and hence not anything that would stand out to me), or simply don't care about their message - or even some that care but have ideals that are just shitty layered on top of the religious stuff (i.e. Narnia. Makes you understand what believing in God is like to a certain extent, but certain elements are very questionable). It blows my mind that Faith is just. So Christian. In like the best possible way, and while dodging all the pitfalls works with similar elements usually fall into. It's one of the most impressive things I have ever seen tbh, and the reason why I will never forget it, despite having never played it myself.
What is nania?is it a game? Also while i adore any religion themed games or even movies (whether pro or anti) you CANNOT discuss these topics alogside politics without being a little preachy...to me there is nothing wrong with that.
@@shimaaalayie9965 @shimaaalayie9965 Narnia, the book series by C.S. Lewis 😆 I also did not mean discussion about politics and religion together being preachy. I just meant fictional media in general, which don't always discuss politics. Edit: Btw, I don't mean to make it sound like I think religion should be left out of politics. If religion is an important part of a person's ideals, I see nothing wrong with including it when they talk about politics (although it may not be a good argument to convince non-religious people or people of other religions)
@@pauline_f328so this proves i am not good at english, what i meant was: religion cannot be spoken upon in media without it being a little preachy. Politics (which i just addad as a sidenote) is also like that. Making this two subjects the most controversial INGENERAL...it is okay to be a little preachy about any touchy subjects not just these two particular ones. I didnt intend to mention the mixture of them eventho thats a whole subgenre of its own.
I’m personally agnostic. I grew up Catholic. Sunday school and confirmation and the whole 9 yards. Minus the being touched. Now I’m very agnostic. Personally I 99% think there is a higher power but I 1% believe there are any humans who can come close to understanding what that higher being might want from us. This game made me really think about this position on religion. It didn’t change my mind but it made me examine my ideas. That’s a lot more than any sermon I got from any priest and it didn’t come off as preachy at all. Very well done Airdorf.
I’m gonna have to touch base with Airdorf someday he seems super chill 👌 the amount of super intricate and interesting details he includes in these games make you really appreciate the craftsmanship and creativity he brings.
Oh man what a trip, I played Faith a while ago and I really loved this game, it was really unique and I felt it did the retro presentation really well. Another relatively indie horror game that blew me away was Signalis, it plays like an old Resident Evil/Silent Hill type of game (heavily inspired) but has an atmosphere totally of its own. Super mind boggling at times and a LOT of questions even after playing multiple times. Would love to see if you’d cover it I think it deserves all the recognition possible. Awesome work as usual ❤️
my dad was a beat cop in the late 70's and reported to a couple of SoS scenes in Queens around that time. The regular uniform guys had never seen anything of the sort and had no idea what to make of it except for some sort of wild gangland initiation. a couple years later it came out as a SK and it all came into line. im glad that this sort of stuff has widespread knowledge nowadays
Even as a kid when I went to church I never really believed. Listening to Wendigoon and now Airdorf talk about their faith - beginning with the main channel video on FAITH - has been the closest I've come in a long time to returning to Christ. And now really believing. Top-tier sunday school teachers.
hastings! i remember that store. i used to call it when i was in middle school for my first programming books. i also first found starcraft, nine inch nails, and learned about the AO esrb rating there. :) oh those memories are yummy.
I really appreciate that Airdorf used religion as more than just an easy aesthetic for his scares. So many indie horrors that use religious themes just have demons and Satan or maybe some Divine Comedy or Revelations references and nothing deeper.
47:30 C.S. Lewis said the same thing of his Screwtape Letters. He never wrote a counterpoint from an angels perspective because he did not consider himself worthy of it, and refrained from a reverence perspective.
I just personally enjoy the fact that FAITH takes Christianity seriously. Father Garcia is cool.
The sincerity with which Christianity is treated in Faith is really nice. As someone who ditched the Catholic church due to the terrible actions of local priests, seeing priests as heroes in media really helps to heal a specific part of my soul.
@maya993 God Bless. I'll pray for you. Nobody should ever have had to go through what you did. Jesus still loves you, and I'm sure He would love for you to come home to Him.
@@maya993 I feel this exact sentiment so strongly. There's a part of me that mourns the loss that I'll never be able to connect with religion properly as all of my religious friends can, but it's media like FAITH that lets me interact and grapple with the ideas in a way that doesn't trigger my flight or fight response. So glad Airdorf is such a cool dude in that aspect.
sincerity in media is very rare nowadays
The holy trinity. The cross, the bible and the double barelled shotgun.
I absolutely love that both Airdorf and Wendigoon are both Sunday school teachers
I’d throw myself out of a window if I got either of them as a teacher
@@lextavactchiwhy?
@@karama5562Because dude’s probably xenophobic, intolerant, and resents anybody who holds onto any sort of spiritualism to get by in life.
@@karama5562i think it's a reference to Amy at the end of the first chapter
@@Berrycah oh lol
Let us not forget the most important thing to take away from all this.
RAIN OF SPIDERS 🕷️🕷️🕷️
Remember that Gary is a normal human being just like you and me.
MORTIS
woe, spiders be upon ye
@@fatherwardsleftshoe and remember Gary loves you
Hallelujah it’s raining spiders
*Timestamps*
0:00 Opening
3:38 About Airdorf & his inspirations
14:13 Airdorf meeting Markiplier
22:49 Airdorf trying to describe his game to others
29:16 Others’ reactions/ opinions to Faith
32:02 Bonding over Sunday school
32:45 Wendigoon’s opinions on Faith
36:35 Discussing John’s character / forgiveness
40:05 Symbolism & “the being of light”
48:20 Faith: Amy
52:51 Faith: Gary & his cult
58:09 Faith: John & Lisa the twins
1:00:17 God & His intervention in the story of Faith
1:04:50 John being a tender lil guy
1:05:52 Writing & art
1:08:11 Rotoscoping
1:14:16 Chapters inspired by songs
1:17:26 Satanic Panic & the 80s
1:25:33 Faith & other games
1:34:14 Faith: Michael
1:46:50 Faith: Garcia
1:48:20 Awww
1:50:26 Fr. Garcia
2:05:05 Movies & TV
2:07:24 The church & Sister Belle
2:22:20 Rain of 🕷️🕷️
2:22:38 The demons & the Unholy Trinity
2:26:16 The demons
2:28:37 The note: Amy’s doll
2:30:50 The note: Missionary in South America
2:37:30 Easter eggs & the Second Death
2:44:03 The note: John in the Psych ward
2:46:12 Why would the cult want John out?
2:47:46 Easter eggs & Faith music
2:59:30 Second Death ritual
3:13:09 What are some subtle portrayals of Christianity you find interesting? / Movie suggestions
3:21:24 Future of Faith / Closing
Bro you’re a hero for this
3 and a half hours I forgot how long this is 😭😭😭
Classic wendigoon
I owe you my life
Wow, thank you so much for the detailed timestamps! This must've taken you forever -- I appreciate how much work you put into these.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar!
I know Airdorf wants to make his own story for his scariest horror game but I think the style and gameplay of Faith would be perfect for a game of Blood Meridian, especially the Rotoscope scenes and some of the imagery of The Judge would blend perfectly
Oh my god that would be horrifying, what a fantastic idea
@@ca44444 imagine if the scene at the river where the priest holds up his cross the judge starts flashing red as a reference to Faith
Like a mix of Faith and Oregon Trail lmao
oh gosh blood meridian + oregon trail mechanics + faith graphics? ready and waiting for the nightmares LOL
Dancing... Dancing..
airdorf sounds so kind and humble, I love that he’s getting this kind of attention. especially since we’re getting a wendigoon analysis!!
I trolled around a few Faith videos on RUclips. Memes mostly.
He'd commented on almost every single one.
Does anyone know what the timestamp is for when they talk about the gravestones and the historical society?
At some points in this video they sound more like friends than interviewer and interviewee :)
It sounds a tad bit corny, but Faith got me thinking about religion again. I played the game when I was still agnostic, not knowing if I truly believed in God or not. Faith getting me interested in religion again made me do some personal exploration. And now I am a believer again. To think, a game with Atari graphics influenced me to the point where I converted. How funny is that?
I'm so glad to hear that. God bless! The heavens rejoice for you.
@@obijuan__ God bless you too, bro
Praise God, welcome back to the faith!
@@dexbuild9132 feels good to be back
It’s not silly at all! A lot of people have a very childish view of spirituality, and it DOES turn away a lot of people. This game goes into detail of the deep elements of Christianity and the real horrors involved with Lucifer, demons, and sin itself with it taints our free will. Demons are HORRIFYING, and it’s really awesome to see Christians highlighting the very dark realities that exist in the physical world.
Man, this game has one of the best endings of all time. It only hits home after you realize how close John was close to success, but had to suffer thru infinitely much more because he initially traded his faith for fear. One single word just brought it all home. AMEN. Shivers.
i may not be a religious fan of Wendigoon and Airdorf but it's IMPOSSIBLE to not appreciate and learn about the connections to religion and redemption and faith, it's amazing!!!!!! thank u for this interview :D
i thought EXACTLY the same!! im agnostic and really not interested in spirituality for myself, but i deeply respect it for what it does for other people. and seeing all the passion and thought going into these references and parallels and all the deep meaning, not even 'just' spiritual but so deeply _human_ and personal, it is really moving and always will be infinitely better than any hollow imitation of those themes could possibly be.
@@martenmaartenYou cannot be lukewarm. “You will be spit from the mouth of the father.” When you say you’re agnostic…you mean you define yourself by your incapability of knowing the truth. The problem with that is all human beings are in that exact position. By deciding you’ll be defined by your inability to decide what is truth…you’ve only sealed your fate to fall for lies.
@@matthewblackledge5464 So you have to be an extremist like you? Well I am not lukewarm. I know that your god is as evil as your devil and in the end of this age Adi Shakti will come with Her Husband Kalki to defeat Yahweh, Jesus and Satan and throw them and their devout followers into Naraka to be punished by King Yama and the Yama Kings and Queens.
@@matthewblackledge5464
Your first sentence is false.
If someone doesn’t have enough information to determine what they define is knowledge, then they are lukewarm. (they can also be lukewarm if they are slightly above room temperature, like a newly dead body!)
Your second sentence is an assertion that you didn’t provide rational justification for claiming as knowledge.
Your third sentence is false, because it assumes that, “because you don’t know this one thing, you can’t know anything!” - That’s a logical fallacy!
Your fourth sentence was built upon the third, and is flawed due to the transitive property of logic for that reason… but I will let it slide as observation.
Your fifth sentence is also false.
I have a lot more confidence in my knowledge that I am speaking English right now than I am that Jesus really cursed a fig tree.
belief and knowledge are not the same thing but they are related: all knowledge is belief - but not all belief is knowledge.
@@matthewblackledge5464 first of all, let the guy believe his own belief and you believe yours. You can't judge and correct someone's belief if they're believing in it and you're not.
I can confidently say that as an atheist, the game does not come across as preachy and is in fact, fucking rad. Awesome interview and looking forward to Chapter 4!
for me, it's on the level of Prince of Egypt in terms of stories that are deeply about Christianity that i think have universal appeal - well, gore and spooks aside since obviously some people aren't about all that. i'm not religious nor spiritual either, but i think everyone wants to see John Ward succeed - doesn't matter who you are, you can clearly see that the cult's actions are heinous and horrifying! it's very cool, and i love it *particularly* because it's not using the faith on a tacky surface level. respectful and genuine, deep and interesting, and terrifying!!
@@matts9871 100% agreed
@@matts9871 Yeah I got that same feeling from the game
Here is an interesting question for you
Do you feel the religious themes of renewing faith were still kind of emotional and effective?
It kind of gave me the same feeling as the end of the Grey which is a much more atheistic story about self reliance lol
But since you are open about being an atheist I am interested in how you feel about the drama itself
Feel free to answer my friend
Coming from someone who believes in God but doesn't quite know why or how ha
@@johnstone2029 I personally still found it emotional and effective because I was invested in Father Ward as a character, so my personal beliefs (or lack thereof) is irrelevant in regards to his growth and arc.
As a catholic, this stuff is absolutely down my alley. This interview is so great thank you both for doing this!! I love how much of the symbolism and story parts Airdorf thought through and how much it delves into faith and the themes of our lives
As a fellow catholic, I love stories where Catholicism is portrayed as a force of good. I don’t get to see it enough so it makes me happy when we get it. Too often in media Catholicism is the butt of the “joke” and it’s so tiresome 😭😭
@@elizabethlevesque6978 Preach
Oh absolutely I 100% agree it's really nice!
@@sakurawindss92 I've got a couple short stories in my head that center around catholicism that I want to write. If no one is gonna give me the cool catholicism related stories I'll write them myself.
I have a very specific scene in my head I want to write. It's currently not connected to anything but I want to write it someday
@@elizabethlevesque6978when you do make sure you let me know :) ❤
I’m a deconstructed ex Baptist, I was seriously hurt by the church, but hearing you two talk and seeing this awesome work of art airdorf has made has made me so happy. So good to be reminded of the good parts of church and good believers ❤
It's a shame that the brethren we have are sometimes the stumbling blocks that cause other christians to fall and stumble...
I hope that you're well despite what has happened
I'm seriously sorry to hear that. Please keep in mind that "christians" may not love but Christ definitely does. I was hurt by religion too, but He found me where I was at. My heart goes out to you.
Faith is one of my favourite horror games ever. I’m so excited for this interview
Really? Man I dunno I watched the play through. We all have our opinions.
Is it on Xbox Is it on Xbox
@@succklanapparently it is, or is planned on being on consoles, including Xbox
@corning1 some games are preferred by others. This gane just isn't your cup of tea it seems
@@Moofshire That is good That is good
As a hardcore Faith fan who has rewatched this game multiple times, I’m realizing how little I knew about Airdorf and about the themes in this game. This interview is amazing!
Rewatched?
Rewatched?
Rewatched?
how could you call yourself a fan before you learned the themes?
@gregtronica3569 it's called having eyes and ears mf? You don't need a masters degree in theology to appreciate religious themes
I LOVE that Airdorf compared the possible sequel with John and Garcia running around and hunting demons to Supernatural, because that is literally the first thing that came to mind when I saw that scene.
I was half expecting one of them to reference "it's really cute that you wanna defeat me with the power of friendship or whatever, but then again, I am THE Devil from THE Bible" during the whole being-of-light-appearing-to-John segment.
Shadow the Hedgehog fandub goes hard
oh my god thats so accurate
Can't wait for the new sin point mechanics
As a catholic i appreciate how he handled everything. It's always nice to have Christian unity were we can at aside doctrinal differences and focus on the important things like the message of christ and the power of God and forgiveness. God bless you Wendi and Airdorf!
Ps: we do have married priests, but they are very rare
Doesn't that have something to do with integrating disgruntled Lutheran ministers into Catholicism, or are there married priests who were Catholic for their whole ministry?
@@MrDrumStikz That is merely accidental. Deacons can be married, they are a part of the priesthood. Priests cannot. In some Orthodox traditions, deacons and priests can be married, but bishops cannot.
@@MrDrumStikz Eastern Catholics like Greek Catholics, Maronites, etc. can marry. Roman Catholics are 98% of Catholics though so those eastern churches are relatively small. Google "sui iuris" if you want to read more.
@@MrDrumStikz Married men can become Byzantine Catholic priests, but can’t marry if ordained first. An Anglican priest may become a Catholic priest if married. Roman Rite priests must be celebrate
As a Christian, I love seeing creators like you and Airdorf implement their faith (no pun intended) into their work. Amazing interview 🙏
14:40 cackling at the timing of talking abt mark surprising him w a 'hello there' from behind him while Amy rises from the foot of the bed
Wasn't that also his girlfriend's name at the time? lmao.
It is so heartwarming to know airdorfs dreams of scaring markiplier came true
I was very close to my Grandma, possibly closer to her than my mother. She was very religious and was a pastor for 50+ years who had a doctorate in theology. She learned Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek and she mentored and helped a lot of people, learning the Bible in all its forms and trying to spread kindness.
She passed in 2021 from a brain tumor. I felt so guilty because I had never felt connected to my faith or even understood the appeal despite trying my entire life, it just never gave me a sense of comfort, it felt like I was always putting on a mask. I was a self-proclaimed agnostic.
FAITH made me cry. While I am still agnostic, it’s helped me understand a lot more and relate to John’s struggles in the journey, and I feel like my grandma would love the work you guys put out, so thank you.
Honestly, the idea that both Faith and Dusk are in the same universe would explain why the FBI hasn’t gotten involved after 490 babies went missing. They’re overloaded with all the other shit going on in that messed-up world.
Because they are involved with the cult, just like in real life.
@@rusi6219 Finders
@@melvinmerkelhopper5752that was the CIA, but close!
There's a much funnier implication there that the entire spiritual order this whole game is built on will one day be upended by murder robots
The whole 490 missing babies would be much easier to explain if the clinic WAS actually an abortion clinic. As dark as it sounds: What's a better sacrifice than someone no one is going to miss? Sedate the woman, induce birth with drugs, then keep the premature baby.
the idea of father garcia scaring up john into doing his work while dressed as clown is hilarious ngl, id lose it... bonus points if using the shotgun as well for extra effectiveness
I love that Airdorf is such a normal dude. So often creative geniuses are stuck up or judgmental.
1:50:00 That's so sweet that the family all contributed in some way to Faith
Man, as a Christian, hearing you two talk about FAITH is so refreshing. I don’t know anything about this game, but y’all make me want to play it just from your edifying conversation. As a fellow Baptist, I love your videos, Wendigoon. And, as a confessional Baptist, I especially love that airredorf shied away from the 2cv in the games. Y’all are awesome.
What is 2cv?
@@DROPKICK500gaming i think it refers to the second commandment of the bible
You should play it
@@DROPKICK500gamingA 2cv or 'deux cheveaux' is a car, the french Beetle.
Two horsepower engine.
It's really refreshing that Dorf is honest about making games to appeal to big youtubers and make money. Not a lot of devs admit it these days.
Well he makes it clear that it wasn't his main intention you know. He wanted to make it big by doing that but he clearly put a ton of passion into it lol
@@goora1866Why did you immediately get defensive? No one was hating on the big game maker guy that doesn't know you, calm down, he doesn't need to be protected 😂
For real, when creators ignore that aspect of the creative process, it isn't giving you the full picture of what influenced it's creation. I appreciate him saying that, because it gives me such a clearer lense to see these new indie games through. Most of the games i like, the devs would never dream of going this into detail abojt how the game was made, but that part is so interesting to me. Makes WAY more sense why a lot of other... less well made games😅 fall into a lot of the same old tropes, while Faith stays feeling fresh. I think he did a GREAT job of balancing streamablity and playabitly without sacrificing the games quality.
@@heehoopeanut420 that wasn't even defensive stop looking for things to argue about
Hearing you talking about miracles, it makes me think about how hard its been to believe in them. I have been trying to get a teaching job for a year. Applying left and right I finally had an interview that I felt went well. As it has been such a challenge I honestly cant even comprehend actually getting the job even though it did. I feel like that will be a miracle.
Its been a rough few years, but hearing you talk about it helps, I hope god is out there and he cares about my life.
God Bless. It's not super easy for Christians either, I have times when I don't "feel it". But that's OK, merely having uncertainties and bad feelings isn't a sin. I've decided just to trust Him and face the unknown (to me, anyway) future one day at a time. 'Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof". Luke 12:6-7 is a favourite if mine as well - God cares about and pays attention to even something as small as a single sparrow, so He surely will not ignore us, His beloved.
The crazy thing is that you might not get the job and that fact in itself can turn into a miracle.
It’s dumbfounding what God will do to bring you closer to Him, and anything that does that is truly the miracle.
as a person who already not going to church or believe in church for long time due to religion trauma, playing FAITH the series is kinda slightly heal my soul a little bit. it makes me believe there's a priest who really put their dedication to learn, and use the value of christianity to really protect others and deliver the true sense of "peace", " kindness", "the Loves of God/the Whisper of God". and it really captures perfectly of human struggling to make their faith stand strong.
FATHER GARCIA IS BALLIN, AND FATHER JOHN IS AMAZING OMG.
The whole thing about John's note was wow, because I thought he was being unintentionally gaslit by the psychiatrist cause to the psychiatrist the whole story would seem like john has major delusions, despite all of it being real.
Though slightly disappointed Wendi never asked about the "fight it John" line, cause it has a similar color to the being of light, and I don't think satan would want John to fight back.
I believe thats supposed to be lisa
That's because the voice saying "FIGHT IT, JOHN" isn't Satan, it's God (or a guardian angel).
If you remember Airdorf and Wendigoon mention several verses of 'Satan appearing with the guise of an angel', the figure of light that John pleaded to on the initial exorcism was Satan, who was in the guise of a holy being.
Also, Satan is named "The Father of All Lies", and he WAS one of God's most beautiful archangels before he fell, taking a third of all the angels down with him.
So to summarize: Satan took the form of the being of light during the initial exorcism, and the voice is actually God (or his guardian angel) telling John to fight the demon during the Alu fight.
2:31:36 when i read "San la Muerte" in the notes I was like "It can't be THAT San la Muerte... right?" but finding out that it really was the same San la Muerte that some relatives worship was a great surprise (and that Airdorf even visited Argentina too)
I hope to see more Argentinian culture reference in the next chapter (something about El Gauchito Gil maybe?) really love Faith and Wendi :)
I think it is funny how Airdorf told that boy that Yahweh wouldn't scare him the way San La Muerte did when Yahweh of the Bible is way more scary and cruel then San La Muerte. Though admittedly my favorite Latin American Death Deity is Santa Muerte from Mexico. She is kind of like their version of our Kali Ma In Hindiusm.
@@mariaavalon3730you're referring to God in the Old Testament, before Christ
@@goora1866 But isn't the god of the old testament Yahweh's father so both of them are in cohoots and are part of the same godhead? Unless of course you are a Gnostic.
@@mariaavalon3730 this is such a confusing statement I don't even know where to begin with a response
@@mariaavalon3730Tell me how I know you're jewish, Yahweh? Really? You might as well have opened your sentence with shalom
Timestamps for myself:
1:04:40 - John's a bit sensitive. He's a tender little guy
2:11:15 - confirmation of john and lisa being the only two left at the church
2:16:25 - still a priest. Just not approved by the Vatican
2:24:00 - no. 15 Gary Encounter. Also info on second death during gary fight
2:45:05 - Gary wrote the psyche ward note!? And his reasoning for getting John out
3:21:40 - devious update
I read gary fight as gay fight…
Incredibly insightful interview. I'm not a practicing Christian, but I was more of one when I was younger, and their conversations on the religious themes around the game were really interesting and almost nostalgic-- I was kind of surprised that I was able to follow along with Airdorf citing passages and all that. FAITH is a wonderful, wonderful game.
It's really nice to know that, whether John went to live a mentee life with Garcia or live a more peaceful life with his sister, that both would be the Good Ending for his character and arc. :')
You know it’s a good day whenever funny Wendigoon man posts a video on a Saturday.
Hello fellow phil fan
@@Kikimikiriki hola.
Airdorf's pleasant sense of humor is refreshing, and nostalgic for my time in the South (That Boy Aint Right, its 6am!). I didn't go to many Sunday School Services, but maybe I would have if he was the teacher.
1:19:03 was my favorite part, the cut off was great.
Ngl the funniest part of this interview
@1:48:20 Bruh. This was so sweet. You can tell a lot about a person by how they interact with their kiddos. My whole heart friggin melted lol
Yea over here in Southeast Asia, black magic and hauntings and paranormal things are very common especially in rural areas lmao like people talk about seeing tuyuls or genderuwos or pocongs or kuyangs like talking about the weather. Sending hexes and curses to someone is very widely practiced, that people know what to look for when weird things happen, such as: go around your house or your shop and dig around, and you'll probably find a packet of soil (usually soil from someone's grave) or a clump of hair wrapped inside a paper with spells written on it. There's a lot of interesting and spooky stuff here
Thankfully, we have the Spanish built churches to reinforce our Faith™.
Ada Indo cuy
@@redline841 And hopefully the indigenous Pagans will stage their own reclamations and eradicate Christianity and Islam. We honestly need a new Lakshmi Bai and Lady Nata.
@@mariaavalon3730
ow le egde
@@redline841 Please this is just me at my base level you can't handle me at my edginess.
I think Faith, Joel Haver and a bunch of people looking back at stuff like old Ralph Bakshi animated films have really brought rotoscoping back as a particular form of animation with its own feel. It’s really cool to see.
I honestly can't wait for Wendigoon's finished video of this series in his main channel. IH voicing Gary?!! That'll be a fun watch. The game is such an amazing experience that I always recommend my friends to play this especially during Halloween.
Also, congrats to Airdorf for getting a lot of recognition from making this masterpiece. I didn't even know that each game is based off the lyrics of a song. Looking forward to Faith Chapter 4!
Talking about Garcia using a weapon, in our weird west tabletop session we had three big things that could stop the unholy. Consecrated Silver bullets, Consecrated Salt, and one called “Kerosene Sulfate.” Our alchemist coated little glass vials with silver and filled them with the chemical. Silver let the bullet in, then the sulfate set them on fire on the inside.
4:46
That's actually a pretty funny and interesting way to establish a name lol. The first thing my oldest son ever said, when he was about 8 months old, was a parroted line we would tell him when we sat him down on the barstool at our breakfast nook:
"Don't fall, you'll get hurt."
His actual words were, "don't fall; get hoyt." My wife and I just stopped in our tracks and looked at each other, then started cracking up. It completely caught us off guard because you wouldn't expect your baby's first dialogue to basically be a whole ass sentence lol.
When I told my parents about it they said, "it's better than YOUR first word; your grandfather would always joke around and mess with you so you repeated the word 'SHOWGIRLS' with enthusiasm." My family went to Vegas every other year for vacation and it was apparently significant enough to where THAT was my first bit of character dialogue 😆.
This is so wholesome
My brother was like completely silent for his first like 3 years and his very first word was the sentence "mama, I want that cookie" in reference to how he was addressing his mother in hopes if acquiring an aforementioned cookie.
Pretty fun story, all things considered
So not only a sentence, a whole ass accent too
"He wants bavies to be born, so that he can send 'em to hell"
Most metal thing I' ve heard in a long time
The bit about chalk and walking around the star had me in tears. I love this interview.
I bought this purely because it is such a breath of fresh air to have a game out there that actually gives Christianity proper shine. Not some corrupt or villainous religion like so many enjoy portraying them as, but one of humility and unwavering devotion even in the face of great evil. Excellent work.
I'm Jewish and I absolutely adore this game. I love how respectful it is towards religion, but still manages to be one of the most terrifying things I've ever played. It's also neat seeing this demon that's present in both Judaism and Christianity.
Fellow based Jewish wendigoon viewer
Thanks for this interview! Though I ain't religious, I love that the both of you discussed the game and its relevancy to your experiences with being practicing Christians. Really sheds a light on the nuances of the game and gives a perspective I couldn't have been able to understand myself.
Watched the whole stream of you playing this, super hype for the deep dive!!!!
Kickass. I loved the Faith trilogy, looking forward to digging into this interview.
i'm 10 minutes into the interview and hearing airdorf talk has unlocked memories of me as a kid falling asleep listening to interviews/talkshows on my dingy $1 battery fm radio from a garage sale back in like 2010 lmao, oddly nostalgic, thank you
I can’t wait for faith to hopefully get a boost like blood meridian, it absolutely deserves it!
"Cybertron is the kingdom of God" is one of my all-time favorite sentences now.
Wendi uploading +3 hour video interviewing great indie dev puts a smile on my face
Did he say something bad about me
If there are any two people that I've been longing to hear talk to each other, it's Wendigoon and Airdorf. FAITH was one of my most favorite horror game series and I'm glad I could finally hear him talk about it with one of my most favorite youtubers! :)
Faith is definitely my favorite horror game of all time and it's so nice to see that Airdorf is such an incredibly creative and amazing person! The interview was great, love both of you guys
"So Wendigoon, what was your favorite part of Faith?"
"MORTIS"
I like the idea of the cross country game with John and Garcia bc that would kinda be like Oregon Trail like he described it as to his family. Very good interview, he seems like a great dude.
I think Faith is a fantastic piece of art, be it as a critical piece, or otherwise, however Airdorf being so upfront and so intelligent with his wording and his intentions with the game is so damn refreshing, the game never comes off as preachy or "love god or else" messages that a lot of judeochristian media has, and the fact that Father Garcia, a Spanish speaking man wearing a cross made of wood that has forsaken the clerical order in order to fight the actual threats that harm actual people is so very like the typical Mexican small town old father, tired, grumpy, but understading of man and his plight.
Fantastic stuff Wendigoon, thank you for the interview.
FAITH will always have a special place in my heart because it was my barrier to entry with Horror games in general. I'll always appreciate Airdorf for giving me the courage (by scaring the crap outta me) to try more games.
If anyone is aiming to try the Good Christian Boy challenge - I wish you luck!
I love how you and Airdorf just geeked out over various topics throughout this interview, it was so fun to listen to!
Its interesting that Airdorf mentions that he gets praise from both ends of the belief spectrum, because as an agnostic who refuses to be defined or restricted by a single belief system, what I find most compelling about the game (and Airdorf himself) is that it/he presents the themes of belief stripped of any dogma, ritual or pretense.
John is an excommunicated priest. Garcia (arguably) kidnapped a boy and carries a shotgun. But they are our heroes. The game is not shoving morality down our throats, it is simply presenting a case for good vs evil, both within ourselves and without. Quite frankly, the characters could be of any religion or denomination and the impact of its message would remain thr same.
Faith is not a religious game. It is a call to simply devote yourself to being a source of good in the world, and doing what is right when it is asked of you.
Not a great take. The creator is catholic. Exorcisms are catholic capabilities. The game is a catholic game. Open to everyone, yes. But it strengthens catholic faith.
A call to devote yourself to being a source of good in the world, and doing what is right when it is asked of you, is religion.
John quoting, “faith without works is death also,” was such a well written moment. You can interpret it as John grimly acknowledging his failure to stop Gary. A dark acceptance that he tried so hard but ultimately was not strong enough. Didn’t truly believe in himself. Or, you can see it as John mocking Gary knowing that even if he dies he finally has his faith in himself again and he only got that far because he had finally redeemed himself.
Super Miriam was easily my favorite part of the trilogy- I was so exasperated after fighting the first two forms that when I got hit during the finale I sat back in my chair in frustration only to jolt forward again upon realizing I wasn't dead.
John's prayer during that final boss gave me goosebumps, it gave me that second wind I needed to push on
here in Argentina to this day, I still find shrines to san la muerte in some streets where people do not usually pass like close to some train tracks or lonely sections in parks, I even know a family that they wont let their kids invite friends inside because all of the decorations to san la muerte they have there
Of course I wait all day and this finally gets posted right as I’m about to leave for church.
One of the scariest games I've ever played, well done Airdorf you're amazing as always!!!
This timing for me was wild.
I just started listening to the Chilluminati podcast a couple weeks ago while I work and just listened to the Airdorf episode last Thursday, picked up Faith after that, and played it over stream with my friends over the weekend when this interview comes out so I can listen to it at work on Monday.
Airdorf telling us that future faith stuff will be similar to resident evil or silent hill, as a survival horror fan, has made me extremely excited. Maybe Garcia’s “methods” of fighting demons will have a bigger role?
“Get in loser. We’re going to war with the Unspeakable.”
Hell yeah
Yeah the East Coast has some weird names for places. Like Rhode Island has Purgatory Chasm, and believe it or not it’s actually a beautiful view and a nice hike through some pretty woods
It’s now apparent that airside played with his daughter today and that makes my day better even though it was already good
there’s something so beautiful about two people having a genuine mutual respect and understanding of one another.
1:49:14 you can pinpoint the moment when wendigoon completed his transformation into Owen Wilson
very excited to watch through this all. i became obsessed with faith last year (although it only lasted a week lol) and i still think about it some. im broke so i couldn't play it, so i watched the stream vod of you playing it. uh anyways, i hope everyone reading this comment is having a good day
I was a little bit skeptical about christianity but when I finished faith i knew i want to become christian, thanks airdorf, you changed my life
1:48:24 sobbing. Crying. Throwing up. Bawling my eyes out. Collapsing. Running into mailboxes. Wailing./pos
The fact that Faith manages to not be preachy and still be very, very religious, that blows my mind. So many works are either preachy, or don't take the religious ideals to heart, or are denouncing organized religion (which is great, but not that unique and hence not anything that would stand out to me), or simply don't care about their message - or even some that care but have ideals that are just shitty layered on top of the religious stuff (i.e. Narnia. Makes you understand what believing in God is like to a certain extent, but certain elements are very questionable).
It blows my mind that Faith is just. So Christian. In like the best possible way, and while dodging all the pitfalls works with similar elements usually fall into. It's one of the most impressive things I have ever seen tbh, and the reason why I will never forget it, despite having never played it myself.
What is nania?is it a game?
Also while i adore any religion themed games or even movies (whether pro or anti) you CANNOT discuss these topics alogside politics without being a little preachy...to me there is nothing wrong with that.
@@shimaaalayie9965 @shimaaalayie9965 Narnia, the book series by C.S. Lewis 😆
I also did not mean discussion about politics and religion together being preachy. I just meant fictional media in general, which don't always discuss politics.
Edit: Btw, I don't mean to make it sound like I think religion should be left out of politics. If religion is an important part of a person's ideals, I see nothing wrong with including it when they talk about politics (although it may not be a good argument to convince non-religious people or people of other religions)
@@pauline_f328so this proves i am not good at english, what i meant was:
religion cannot be spoken upon in media without it being a little preachy. Politics (which i just addad as a sidenote) is also like that. Making this two subjects the most controversial INGENERAL...it is okay to be a little preachy about any touchy subjects not just these two particular ones.
I didnt intend to mention the mixture of them eventho thats a whole subgenre of its own.
@@shimaaalayie9965 Ohh sorry for the miscomprehension. I see what you mean now
I’m personally agnostic. I grew up Catholic. Sunday school and confirmation and the whole 9 yards. Minus the being touched. Now I’m very agnostic. Personally I 99% think there is a higher power but I 1% believe there are any humans who can come close to understanding what that higher being might want from us. This game made me really think about this position on religion. It didn’t change my mind but it made me examine my ideas. That’s a lot more than any sermon I got from any priest and it didn’t come off as preachy at all. Very well done Airdorf.
Sometimes as a Christian I feel alone in the game media but hearing you guys made my day.
I’m gonna have to touch base with Airdorf someday he seems super chill 👌 the amount of super intricate and interesting details he includes in these games make you really appreciate the craftsmanship and creativity he brings.
Every time I saw Michael my brain would recite the “skitters toward you on all fours” post
as soon as i first heard about faith: the unholy trinity, i knew wendigoon would love it!! so excited for the main channel video now!!!
Even as an atheist this game is so badass. Love the messaging of it as well.
Oh man what a trip, I played Faith a while ago and I really loved this game, it was really unique and I felt it did the retro presentation really well. Another relatively indie horror game that blew me away was Signalis, it plays like an old Resident Evil/Silent Hill type of game (heavily inspired) but has an atmosphere totally of its own. Super mind boggling at times and a LOT of questions even after playing multiple times. Would love to see if you’d cover it I think it deserves all the recognition possible. Awesome work as usual ❤️
I don’t think airdorf will ever read this but I just wanna say thank you for sharing with us this piece of art.
The games are so good. A breath of fresh air on a genre that often gets stagnant.
my dad was a beat cop in the late 70's and reported to a couple of SoS scenes in Queens around that time. The regular uniform guys had never seen anything of the sort and had no idea what to make of it except for some sort of wild gangland initiation. a couple years later it came out as a SK and it all came into line. im glad that this sort of stuff has widespread knowledge nowadays
What do SoS and SK stand for?
Yeah i wanna know more!
Even as a kid when I went to church I never really believed. Listening to Wendigoon and now Airdorf talk about their faith - beginning with the main channel video on FAITH - has been the closest I've come in a long time to returning to Christ. And now really believing. Top-tier sunday school teachers.
hastings! i remember that store. i used to call it when i was in middle school for my first programming books. i also first found starcraft, nine inch nails, and learned about the AO esrb rating there. :) oh those memories are yummy.
I've been thinking about this game all week so seeing this upload today felt like a gift.
Humans were not meant to know about the Crazy Bus cameo. This forbidden knowledge will haunt me for the rest of my life.
If your kid is into coffins, they’re in danger of growing up to be a mortician.
Oh no
I really appreciate that Airdorf used religion as more than just an easy aesthetic for his scares. So many indie horrors that use religious themes just have demons and Satan or maybe some Divine Comedy or Revelations references and nothing deeper.
Now I need to go rewatch the entire play through again.
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C.S. Lewis said the same thing of his Screwtape Letters. He never wrote a counterpoint from an angels perspective because he did not consider himself worthy of it, and refrained from a reverence perspective.
Was literally in the middle of watching his faith play through when I got the notification
thank you for these videos. Just finished my first playthrough of the game and now i need to unpack everythimg. Gary loves you.
I actually had no clue Wendi was a Sunday school teacher. That explains why he's so knowledgeable on the subject. I think that's pretty cool.
Almost finished the interview....fascinating!!! Thanks for the link!
was literally thinking about faith lore this morning, what a delightful surprise