Sean yelling "SHUT YOUR OLD ASS UP!" Had me rolling. He needs to release a soundbite to the Patrons of him yelling "Wake your old ass up" that they can use as their alarm. 😂
That 18 is legal guy wouldn't understand all the nuances, like power imbalances for example, for why older people shouldn't be dating super young people. Bro just lets his moral code be dictated by the law
fr cause if theres an 18 year old dating a 30 year old it is *weird.* cause why does a 30 year old want someone barely legal? someone who is definitely not mature and easier to manipulate than a 25+ year old? to me it just says the older one wants to be with a minor but takes what they can legally get barely following the law ≠ morality. if someone wants to kill people but doesnt because of the law, they arent a good person. so why is someone who may want a minor but doesnt due to the law okay? that op is insane 😭😭
@@MisforMakeup yeah I think that people who base their morality on what’s legal and what’s illegal don’t have any critical thinking skills OR are purposely clinging onto technicalities to justify their actions.
Weird that he's angry and wants advice on how to "deal with her making more money than me." So, he no longer has financial control over her and angry that she's experiencing some financial freedom. . Yikes.
This is what I was thinking about. In the story, she told him that he doesn’t pay for things like getting her hair done. So it sounds like the only money he gives her is related to bills and child rearing. That’s so controlling. And I think his anger over this is probably a good indicator of why she hid it from him.
@@xcreativecobrax Didn't he also write that she'd also said "to get clothes for her"? Which I would say is almost as important as getting clothes for their kids.
The 18 is legal folks are wild. The government had to make a cut off at some point doesn’t mean you should act like a creep and try have sex with people in a wildly different/vulnerable stage of life than you and not recognize it’s weird and there’s often a power imbalance. Like an 18 year old is just starting the adulthood tutorial.
"If she's old enough to be taken advantage of by the government, she's old enough to be taken advantage of by men twice her age" isn't the gotcha some dudes think it is
I'm totally in the camp of sharing finance info with my partner, but if he's supposed to be the "traditional bread winner", then he's supposed to provide her with an allowance. She said he wasn't doing that at all, so if I were her I would've hidden MY new money as well
frr like ur telling me she has NOTHING? all she can do is go on her phone and watch tv? we dont even know if this dude would buy books for her. and she cant do anything nice for herself bc he literally didnt give her an allowance as he shouldve. she should be given money cause shes his wife 💀💀
Right. These dudes out here want trad wives but forget that means the male financial support, as in, the wife still has access to money to take care of herself and buy things. Not JUST have the bills paid and be happy with that.
I will never understand the 18 thing .. when I was 18, I wouldn’t even date an 18 yr old. When I was 21, my gf was 19 and that was sssssoooooooo weird for me. After that I decided that if they weren’t legally able to have a drink with me (I’m in the US) then it was a no. And now??? I’m 27 and 25 is too young FOR ME. “Waiting for someone to be 18” is so beyond disgusting. THEY’RE BABIES!! I know most of the issue, for me, is that I’ve always been “a little old lady/mature for my age”, so even people around my age are “too young” and I consider them “kids” .. ssssooooooo yeah. That means 18 yr olds are DEFINITELY babies.. crazy.
kinda strange u wouldnt wanna date 18 year olds while u were 18 but the overall yeahh. im turning 21 this year and cant imagine dating an 18 year old 💀💀
Yeah I’m the oldest of 7 siblings. Even when the youngest of my siblings turned 21 last year he still seemed so *young* to me. I know when you have a nine year age gap they always will, but there’s that difference in life experience, maturity, etc that sets you apart.
I always appreciate stories where parents hold their children accountable for their actions instead of backing them up and condoning their bad behavior. There’s a lot of “parents should always be supportive of their kids” rhetoric out there and I think many people overlook the nuances. Support your kid’s identity, their passions, and their dreams. However, if your child is a tornado who goes around exploiting and hurting the people around them it’s your duty as a parent to call them out for it. If your kid is a menace to society don’t just blindly defend and support their behavior. Your perfect little baby isn’t infallible.
The sad thing is, about the story with the creepy grocery guy, he’s semi right on them not doing that procedure on young women. I tried to have it done when I was like 20-21 and the doctor basically said no because “I’m too young and I might want kids some day”. Lady, I never played with baby dolls, I don’t like kids (usually), and I’ve never wanted to have to take care of another life. I don’t think I’d be capable anyway lol I can’t even keep a plant alive 😂🤣🤙🏻
When I was 35, my doctor wouldn't "tie my tubes" without my Husband's written permission. At 50 (2019) a different doctor *also* refused to perform my hysterectomy surgery without my Husband's permission. That dude is an absolute assbutt, but he happens to be horrifyingly right about that one point. (Even a broken clock is right 2x a day).
@@persaunna yeah but its super misogynistic to need a MANS permission. like what if you divorced that dude later on? theres a 50% chance of it happening. why not say "i cant do that because youre still young enough to change your mind about having kids"? if only freezing eggs were more affordable, itd let people have 100% control over their bodies cause you can say "oh i have x as a backup" :/ orrr if people were more open about adoption -_-
38:40 but people do complain about 18yo getting into legally binding contracts, taking out predatory loans and joining the military. He's wrong even just here. I personally think there should be limitations with the things they can do till maybe twenty but the limitations should be in such a way to train them rather than limit them in the name of protection. We don't have a universal way of differentiating childhood from adulthood; literally we even moved it up from a younger age and to coincide with how our structures guide our lives. Almost all countries have 12 years of primary education with the knowledge children can participate in learning starting from 4 so most kids are leaving home for uni or starting work at around 16 and with two years to learn how to adult 18 is safe but still lacking. I've worked in children's welfare, although through disability welfare, I still know a thing or two but might be wrong so correct me.
honestly, maybe i wouldnt think about telling my spouse what im making unless they asked. not that id be keeping a secret, i just wouldnt think its a big deal cause they were doing fine already and i feel like itd naturally come up in conversation like "man i really want ___" or "im really worrying about this payment coming up" and the wife would say "oh dont worry, i make a lot of money now :)" yk? maybe it is weird, idk, im probably autistic so in rare cases i dont get some conflicts one thing i find wrong/weird about the guy is that maybe he just likes having financial control over his wife. im not saying he is one, but a lot of abusers/narcissists will try to have that control so its harder for their partner to leave them. an example of a mental and financial abuser would be illuminaughtii if that helps anyone put it into perspective
Well given the way this dude reacted to his wife not being dependent on him anymore, it’e clear why there isn’t free communication in that relationship
You just randomly showed up on my feed bc I listen to a ton of reddit on here. I am really enjoying the commentary. Fav song is anything by Linkin Park. Lost is def up there.
I need to know what OP’s wife’s social media is. Like is she an influencer or does she make art, food, etc? If she’s an artist I want to see what she’s making. Also I agree I don’t get cars either. As long as it has all wheel or 4 wheel drive (I hate winter) and a Bluetooth stereo I don’t care what I drive
The first rate this date reminds me of the How I Met Your Mother ep about Meet Cute vs Stalk Crazy ... Literally just depends on if you like the person or not
I'm guessing Only fans or something similar. I'm really surprised that there was no discussion about how unlikely it is that she made 30K in 3 months on RUclips.
💯%‼️ They said she was doing RUclips and tiktok, but I'm not buying it. 30K in 3 months (especially considering that she's fairly new at it), screams Only Fans or something along those lines.
OP is upset that his wife is now the 'Breadswinner', in my opinion, because he probably feels like a failure as a man. He's not the one providing, and it's probably affecting his self-esteem.
Also, his wife managed to earn his annual income in just three months, and she shined a Bright light on how he’s gipping his family without even trying. He needs to do better, and he is feeling ashamed that he’s not!
Idk for the guy who’s trying to deal with his wife making more money than him it doesn’t necessarily sound like he is mad at her for making the money. It sounds to me like he is upset that she’s not being transparent about it. She threw it in his face that he wasn’t able to afford getting her new clothes or going to get her nails done and that just sounds like her original idea was for him to give her that 1970s lifestyle of him paying for everything and her staying home with the kids and going shopping everyday. I think the couple needs therapy more than anything. I could be wrong of course but that’s where my mind went, not to financial abuse. If they’re only making 30k with his salary they were struggling to just survive. It’s possible his anger comes from the fact that they need other things besides a fancy car.
You are making an assumption that 30K is an unlivable wage. It is _definitely_ a livable wage for a family in many parts of the world. I agree with the guys here that he *now* doubts his own value in the relationship if his wife can out earn him in a matter of months doing a "hobby." The guys were right about her hesitation to say anything about the money but I'd also posit that she might have tried to surprise him or was thinking she was going to save his fragile ego.
But are they in it together if he doesn't even know and she didn't even share it ? I think thats more his point. I mean she only told him because she he would notice the Audi in the driveway lol she was buying her one not them one.
Unpopular opinion, story one sounds like the wife had every intention on spending every dime on herself. I think the title is the only area where it might cause me to do a head tilt and wonder if he is jealous. But my goodness, coming into $30,000 and never telling your partner for THREE MONTHS! And then just deciding on your own, where the money is going to be spent, when the husband has been paying for the household on $30,000 a year. Of course he doesn’t have extra money to pay for you to get your hair done.
Traditional simply means habitually done, used, or found. The term doesn't mean good or bad 🤷♀️ And if you are struggling to make enough money to support your family, and you find out that your partner has been secretly hoarding money for a unnecessarily expensive car, it would be disappointing. It doesn't mean that you are not happy about their success. It means that you feel like she isn't using her money towards the family, which is disappointing regardless of your support of her success.
The finance story in the beginning - i agree with everything said however playing devils advocate here slightly. Without the genders involved lets say. I would be upset too if my partner was suddenly making my entire years salary in 3 months. I wouldnt be upset at my partner but id be upset at the situation. Like id be looking for a new job or pointing it out to my boss.
Sean yelling "SHUT YOUR OLD ASS UP!" Had me rolling. He needs to release a soundbite to the Patrons of him yelling "Wake your old ass up" that they can use as their alarm. 😂
I need all the soundbites and the OG intro song bc I miss the old one so much😭I’d fully make that a ringtone
@@Thatgenderconfused3mo omg I also would 100% make the old theme song my ringtone
Obsessed with how (rightfully) upset Sean gets when someone breaks The Rule lmao
I need "shut your old ass up" merch lol
Put it on any merch and I’m sold
That 18 is legal guy wouldn't understand all the nuances, like power imbalances for example, for why older people shouldn't be dating super young people. Bro just lets his moral code be dictated by the law
@@glitter4592 Yeah true
Insane to think there are people out there that are only “good” people because of laws and no inner morality
fr cause if theres an 18 year old dating a 30 year old it is *weird.* cause why does a 30 year old want someone barely legal? someone who is definitely not mature and easier to manipulate than a 25+ year old? to me it just says the older one wants to be with a minor but takes what they can legally get
barely following the law ≠ morality. if someone wants to kill people but doesnt because of the law, they arent a good person. so why is someone who may want a minor but doesnt due to the law okay? that op is insane 😭😭
@@MisforMakeup yeah I think that people who base their morality on what’s legal and what’s illegal don’t have any critical thinking skills OR are purposely clinging onto technicalities to justify their actions.
@@pearlycomplaints
*cough cough* Onision
Weird that he's angry and wants advice on how to "deal with her making more money than me." So, he no longer has financial control over her and angry that she's experiencing some financial freedom. . Yikes.
This is what I was thinking about. In the story, she told him that he doesn’t pay for things like getting her hair done. So it sounds like the only money he gives her is related to bills and child rearing. That’s so controlling. And I think his anger over this is probably a good indicator of why she hid it from him.
@@xcreativecobrax Didn't he also write that she'd also said "to get clothes for her"? Which I would say is almost as important as getting clothes for their kids.
The 18 is legal folks are wild. The government had to make a cut off at some point doesn’t mean you should act like a creep and try have sex with people in a wildly different/vulnerable stage of life than you and not recognize it’s weird and there’s often a power imbalance. Like an 18 year old is just starting the adulthood tutorial.
"If she's old enough to be taken advantage of by the government, she's old enough to be taken advantage of by men twice her age" isn't the gotcha some dudes think it is
The " If she's 18..." guy definitely asked his older cousin to break his virginity, and she said NO!
I'm totally in the camp of sharing finance info with my partner, but if he's supposed to be the "traditional bread winner", then he's supposed to provide her with an allowance. She said he wasn't doing that at all, so if I were her I would've hidden MY new money as well
frr like ur telling me she has NOTHING? all she can do is go on her phone and watch tv? we dont even know if this dude would buy books for her. and she cant do anything nice for herself bc he literally didnt give her an allowance as he shouldve. she should be given money cause shes his wife 💀💀
Pretty sure there are laws ensuring the stay-at-home spouse is also paid by the one working.
@@SleipnirseightIn some places sure. However, in the United States rules like that can vary a lot from state to state.
That’s a wild take to me, I don’t even understand how a person lives off of less than $30,000 a year much less has allowance money to get done.
Right. These dudes out here want trad wives but forget that means the male financial support, as in, the wife still has access to money to take care of herself and buy things. Not JUST have the bills paid and be happy with that.
I will never understand the 18 thing .. when I was 18, I wouldn’t even date an 18 yr old. When I was 21, my gf was 19 and that was sssssoooooooo weird for me. After that I decided that if they weren’t legally able to have a drink with me (I’m in the US) then it was a no. And now??? I’m 27 and 25 is too young FOR ME.
“Waiting for someone to be 18” is so beyond disgusting. THEY’RE BABIES!!
I know most of the issue, for me, is that I’ve always been “a little old lady/mature for my age”, so even people around my age are “too young” and I consider them “kids” .. ssssooooooo yeah. That means 18 yr olds are DEFINITELY babies.. crazy.
kinda strange u wouldnt wanna date 18 year olds while u were 18 but the overall yeahh. im turning 21 this year and cant imagine dating an 18 year old 💀💀
@@kaitlynmorgan4613 i thought maybe they meant that there were not even into dating at that age?
@@kaitlynmorgan4613 lol when I was 18, most 18 yr olds that I knew, had the maturity level of a 14 yr old and I couldn’t stand them 😅
@@your_eve I was for sure. I’ve just always been a little old lady, so 18 yr olds were too immature for me, even when I was 18 lol.
Yeah I’m the oldest of 7 siblings. Even when the youngest of my siblings turned 21 last year he still seemed so *young* to me. I know when you have a nine year age gap they always will, but there’s that difference in life experience, maturity, etc that sets you apart.
I always appreciate stories where parents hold their children accountable for their actions instead of backing them up and condoning their bad behavior. There’s a lot of “parents should always be supportive of their kids” rhetoric out there and I think many people overlook the nuances. Support your kid’s identity, their passions, and their dreams. However, if your child is a tornado who goes around exploiting and hurting the people around them it’s your duty as a parent to call them out for it. If your kid is a menace to society don’t just blindly defend and support their behavior. Your perfect little baby isn’t infallible.
My BF doesn't speak english yet, so I listen to u guys, and Tell him about the stories as If It was gossip... And WE LOVE IT!! ❤❤
The best episodes are the ones where Sean yells omg 😂😂😂
The sad thing is, about the story with the creepy grocery guy, he’s semi right on them not doing that procedure on young women. I tried to have it done when I was like 20-21 and the doctor basically said no because “I’m too young and I might want kids some day”. Lady, I never played with baby dolls, I don’t like kids (usually), and I’ve never wanted to have to take care of another life. I don’t think I’d be capable anyway lol I can’t even keep a plant alive 😂🤣🤙🏻
When I was 35, my doctor wouldn't "tie my tubes" without my Husband's written permission. At 50 (2019) a different doctor *also* refused to perform my hysterectomy surgery without my Husband's permission. That dude is an absolute assbutt, but he happens to be horrifyingly right about that one point. (Even a broken clock is right 2x a day).
@@persaunna i mean.. did u end up wanting more kids tho 💀💀
@@persaunna yeah but its super misogynistic to need a MANS permission. like what if you divorced that dude later on? theres a 50% chance of it happening. why not say "i cant do that because youre still young enough to change your mind about having kids"? if only freezing eggs were more affordable, itd let people have 100% control over their bodies cause you can say "oh i have x as a backup" :/ orrr if people were more open about adoption -_-
@kaitlynmorgan4613 no. I didn't ever change my mind about wanting more kids, but that was never the point.
ok but side note, I LOOOOVE Josh's cap!
YESSS
Stick Season!! 🍂
Okay but putting your videos with John's art videos is *genius* 😂
I'm upset your subreddit isn't called r/redditonwikionreddit
LOL Love that idea
38:40 but people do complain about 18yo getting into legally binding contracts, taking out predatory loans and joining the military. He's wrong even just here.
I personally think there should be limitations with the things they can do till maybe twenty but the limitations should be in such a way to train them rather than limit them in the name of protection. We don't have a universal way of differentiating childhood from adulthood; literally we even moved it up from a younger age and to coincide with how our structures guide our lives. Almost all countries have 12 years of primary education with the knowledge children can participate in learning starting from 4 so most kids are leaving home for uni or starting work at around 16 and with two years to learn how to adult 18 is safe but still lacking.
I've worked in children's welfare, although through disability welfare, I still know a thing or two but might be wrong so correct me.
Heads up Reddit On Wiki boys, the apple podcast uploaded version is only 20 minutes long. it sounds like a section was cut on accident
Does it also seem like the episodes have a different mix of stories than the Apple podcast sometimes?
2nd story: 30k/a year is quite a livable salary in finland! we have good benefits, like free healthcare and schooling, so no need to save for that
My favorite song is Syrgas (Till Anna) by LBSB. Its a swedish song and as a norwegian i can understand about half of what they are singing 😂
honestly, maybe i wouldnt think about telling my spouse what im making unless they asked. not that id be keeping a secret, i just wouldnt think its a big deal cause they were doing fine already and i feel like itd naturally come up in conversation like "man i really want ___" or "im really worrying about this payment coming up" and the wife would say "oh dont worry, i make a lot of money now :)" yk? maybe it is weird, idk, im probably autistic so in rare cases i dont get some conflicts
one thing i find wrong/weird about the guy is that maybe he just likes having financial control over his wife. im not saying he is one, but a lot of abusers/narcissists will try to have that control so its harder for their partner to leave them. an example of a mental and financial abuser would be illuminaughtii if that helps anyone put it into perspective
Well given the way this dude reacted to his wife not being dependent on him anymore, it’e clear why there isn’t free communication in that relationship
Wish this episode wasnt so old, i wanna see this drawing channel John has but cant find a link
Achilles Come Down by Gang of Youths has been my favorite song lately 💙💙
I so enjoy this podcast. Always gets me in a good mood. Thanks guys!
«18 y.o. shouldn’t probably go to war»
Crying in Ukrainian 💔💔
You just randomly showed up on my feed bc I listen to a ton of reddit on here. I am really enjoying the commentary. Fav song is anything by Linkin Park. Lost is def up there.
I just love watching John hype Juliet up
Such a strong start!! Loving this!! 💜
I need to know what OP’s wife’s social media is. Like is she an influencer or does she make art, food, etc? If she’s an artist I want to see what she’s making. Also I agree I don’t get cars either. As long as it has all wheel or 4 wheel drive (I hate winter) and a Bluetooth stereo I don’t care what I drive
The age gap guy is probably 19 years old himself and just thinks he’s being super edgy and contrarian and a hero of the Tate-ian faith 🙄
The first rate this date reminds me of the How I Met Your Mother ep about Meet Cute vs Stalk Crazy ... Literally just depends on if you like the person or not
Me watching ya'll while I wait for H3, no such thing as a coincidence
My favorite song is: what you know, by: two door cinema club
The story about the woman earning more.. i need some tips from her, this girl needs some money 😭
I'm guessing Only fans or something similar. I'm really surprised that there was no discussion about how unlikely it is that she made 30K in 3 months on RUclips.
Is it just me? But does anybody else think that social media this wife is doing is on only fans. I mean why is it a secret
💯%‼️
They said she was doing RUclips and tiktok, but I'm not buying it. 30K in 3 months (especially considering that she's fairly new at it), screams Only Fans or something along those lines.
i think you guys should collab with morgan (THT host) it would be such a good episode
OP is upset that his wife is now the 'Breadswinner', in my opinion, because he probably feels like a failure as a man. He's not the one providing, and it's probably affecting his self-esteem.
Also, his wife managed to earn his annual income in just three months, and she shined a Bright light on how he’s gipping his family without even trying. He needs to do better, and he is feeling ashamed that he’s not!
Sean calling 30s old, dang sean i just turned 33 🥺
Fave song currently is Below the Belt by Point North ft. Set it Off
I am also besties with my ex's mom. She's coming to my wedding this year with my new boo
Just a heads up, idk if this also happened for other podcast platforms but only 20 mins of the episode was uploaded to Pocket Casts 😅
Josh, get a VPN and change it to the US and post to a US account.
How are they looking up these stats for the top subreddits?
THERE IS ANOTHER GERMAN FAN??! IM NOT THE ONLY ONE? guys, I guess you now have two german fans...
Ethel Cain has been scratching my religious trauma itch lately, though, so I’ll have to say her song “Sun Bleached Flies” is my favorite at this point
I will 100% draw and put your videos next to mine hahaha
Idk for the guy who’s trying to deal with his wife making more money than him it doesn’t necessarily sound like he is mad at her for making the money. It sounds to me like he is upset that she’s not being transparent about it. She threw it in his face that he wasn’t able to afford getting her new clothes or going to get her nails done and that just sounds like her original idea was for him to give her that 1970s lifestyle of him paying for everything and her staying home with the kids and going shopping everyday. I think the couple needs therapy more than anything. I could be wrong of course but that’s where my mind went, not to financial abuse. If they’re only making 30k with his salary they were struggling to just survive. It’s possible his anger comes from the fact that they need other things besides a fancy car.
You are making an assumption that 30K is an unlivable wage. It is _definitely_ a livable wage for a family in many parts of the world.
I agree with the guys here that he *now* doubts his own value in the relationship if his wife can out earn him in a matter of months doing a "hobby." The guys were right about her hesitation to say anything about the money but I'd also posit that she might have tried to surprise him or was thinking she was going to save his fragile ego.
But are they in it together if he doesn't even know and she didn't even share it ? I think thats more his point.
I mean she only told him because she he would notice the Audi in the driveway lol she was buying her one not them one.
Hi guys! My favourite song (right now) is Francesca by Hozier ✨
Aaannnd Like I Do by J.Tajor 🌟
Age viola-Shawns!!!!
Ogtha is definitely not a normal name in germany. I just know everyone here would pronounce it sooo wrong lmaooo
Unpopular opinion, story one sounds like the wife had every intention on spending every dime on herself. I think the title is the only area where it might cause me to do a head tilt and wonder if he is jealous. But my goodness, coming into $30,000 and never telling your partner for THREE MONTHS! And then just deciding on your own, where the money is going to be spent, when the husband has been paying for the household on $30,000 a year. Of course he doesn’t have extra money to pay for you to get your hair done.
Traditional simply means habitually done, used, or found. The term doesn't mean good or bad 🤷♀️ And if you are struggling to make enough money to support your family, and you find out that your partner has been secretly hoarding money for a unnecessarily expensive car, it would be disappointing. It doesn't mean that you are not happy about their success. It means that you feel like she isn't using her money towards the family, which is disappointing regardless of your support of her success.
The finance story in the beginning - i agree with everything said however playing devils advocate here slightly. Without the genders involved lets say. I would be upset too if my partner was suddenly making my entire years salary in 3 months. I wouldnt be upset at my partner but id be upset at the situation. Like id be looking for a new job or pointing it out to my boss.
Holy shit guys, you gotta tread lightly on the h3 hate or you'll lose a lot of followers 😂
Ok look, if the genders were reversed in that second story y’all would be going off! Bring some consistency.
Am I like the only one who was the same person between 18 and 25?
This show is horrible to listen to as a podcast.