Why everything you buy is worse now | Hasanabi Reacts to Vox
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2023
- Hasan reacts to two Vox videos about how everything is being made cheaper and lower quality and how credit scores are messed up!
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The fact that we can hardly take our phones apart anymore is also a big give away. We're not "allowed" to try and fix it ourselves
I used to have a side job doing phone repair in college but I had to stop a few years ago because it's just too hard anymore. It's practically designed to break when you open it. I phones ares especially bad.
Buy a Fairphone, Dutch company, good quality and you can take apart all parts
I thought I was crazy and stupid when I had to break a few pieces of plastic to open an android one time... Didn't even think it was because it was designed to never be opened
? I literally DIY everything.
Right to repair!!! Right to repair!!!!
Planned obsolescence is by far THE leading cause of wasted work-hours.
Instead of innovating - forcing the consumer to replace their goods because there's a much better version available - we replace stuff because it's broken and buy ~the exact same thing. Someone has to spend time manufacturing the exact same thing.
capitalism is inferior and only maintained by violence it goes against all common sense.
I don’t know man, I’m in a basic lower middle class factory town suburb, trash day around here is often like Xmas… at least half the tv and home appliance type stuff that are on the curb work fine when I snag them. Fans, power tools, vacuums, furniture especially desks and desk chairs, yard tools like weed eaters mowers even perfectly good hand tools… sometimes the stuff is dirty or dusty, sometimes it’s got some very minor easy to fix problem but often enough it’s just fine.
The only thing I can figure is either they just don’t care and and throw it away without a care because they bought it without a care… or they’re stepping up to something a bit nicer… or they’d rather upgrade while it still works instead of waiting til it craps out and the inconvenience that comes with it.
Whatever the case it’s incredibly wasteful in every sense
Theoretically it leaves room for new people to enter the market and make more durable items
@@Classified-qt4su Human foresight isn't good enough for that. Why buy something that will last longer (which you don't even know/notice at the time of buying, most likely), but is more expensive, when what you've been buying up until now is cheaper and worked "fine"?
Plus the new people are going to lose out anyway when it comes to manufacturing costs.
Not to mention the heaping pile of trash it creates
My mom had Samsung washer/dryer combo where the washer drum started to rub. It was near the end of its warranty. Samsung sent a local tech out to look at it. Said it needed a new bearing assembly that, surprise, they couldn't get for a month. I took it apart and realized the bearing had backed out of its press fitted hole and tapped it back into place. Done. No parts needed. I then installed some keeper tabs, that should have been part of the design, to keep the bearing in place. But, hey, it hooks up to your phone. 😂😂😂
yeah IoT is 90% bullshit
Man you hit the nail in the head with that comment 😂
One of the reasons vintage clothes rock. If grandpas been wearing the same sweater for 30 years and it ends up on the thrift rack, chances are it’ll continue to be fine.
My mom passed in 2020 and I ended up taking a few of her clothes from the 90s more to try to feel close to her still. But the cool thing is the clothes still look in style because of this whole resurgence of 90s style clothing, and the quality is amazing. It’s like brand new after all these years
I have tons of vintage clothes, great quality for usually cheap prices
Other than base layer clothing like underwear and socks and stuff I basically only buy clothes from thrift stores, even if the item is only a couple years old it’s typically a tiny bit better than what I’d find in a regular store and if not it’s typically cheaper
Been screaming about this for years! I'm a tailor by trade and I have personally noticed the decline in clothing quality over time. Compound that with the decline of home ec classes in public school and you have a whole generation of kids who don't know how to patch a hole, or darn one before it even reaches that point, or even replace a button without it falling off again a week later - and it's no wonder people just continually throw stuff out or donate clothing they've only had for a couple of years. Clothing is supposed to last you so much longer than that. So people need to buy clothing more often, which means they have less money to spend on any one article of clothing, so they buy cheap clothing that is not made to last. Fast fashion really is a self feeding, vicious cycle.
Don't even get me started on phones, one of my partners works in tech repair, holy planned obsolescence batman. Remember when you could replace a faulty phone battery yourself? I'm lucky now if I can get a phone to last more than two years.
Hey let me ask you this. Have you been noticing a decline in even the fabric that you use for your job? I’m in a similar business and it’s getting harder and harder to find fabric that is up to our standards and that’s been concerning us for years.
@@gerryg2560 Generally we focus on repair, when we do custom suits the head tailor (who owns the shop) has a specific place he uses. I wish I had a name for you but he's never told me, all I know is it's imported. Either from Italy or Vietnam, are my guesses.
Edit: but to answer your question regarding fabric outside of that, yes absolutely. I've been sewing for years, I've been in and around all the fabric stores and the stuff you get at your average JoAnn is remarkably worse than it used to be.
@@WatashiMachineFullCycle That’s alright. We have a company that does small runs of clothing and like super custom clothing, and we have to source from different places. Our stuff is a little pricey so we have always make good quality clothing. Our people that make it are actual seamstresses, not like shop workers, and we try to find good quality fabric. The places we buy from has kind of been shrinking. I guess I just mean that quality is declining even at the base material level and it sucks.
@@gerryg2560Absolutely agree. We're also a bit pricey, our focus is on formal wear and weddings and there's just three of us. We keep stuff very small and focus on quality over speed which I love (I've worked in assembly in the past, and yikes). But every year the clothing we alter is thinner and flimsier, the price of materials goes up and up. Thankfully industrial machinery is relatively simple to service though. We're actually closing up shop in the near future because our rent is about to double (guy who owns the strip wants to muscle everybody out and demolish it).
Also not to mention the clothing now is so poorly made it's not even worth patching and fixing them. The repair ends up being to strong and the button stitches now just tear the fabric because the thread is stronger then the clothing
My cat ripped several keys off a friend's laptop and it was difficult to just put them back on. We took it to a repair shop and they said they'd try to put the keys back on and if that didn't work they'd give us a quote on a parts replacement. Turns out they wanted to replace the entire top plate that contained the keyboard for something like $450, almost half the price of the laptop. I refused, took the laptop home, grabbed some tweezers and a tiny screwdriver and slowly/carefully set the keys back in place in under 30 minutes. They didn't even try to repair it, they just wanted to replace the whole top plate.
Phones used to open up to allow you to access and change the battery easily, now all phones are glued together and it takes literal surgery of taking the phone apart to replace the battery. My samsung galaxy 4 lasted me many years until I had to get a galaxy 9 just because of how easy it was to repair the 4. Now I dread the repair bill for my galaxy 9.
I also have a Galaxy 9 and They really push the planned obsolescence.
It's actually insane, there's no way there's a physical reason some of these glitches are happening they're just fucking with us.
How does a touch screen keyboard malfunction?
Not to mention how all the pixels are burning out, I can literally read the RUclips homepage through my keypad
I'm looking to replace a cracked screen on my note 9 but the screen is worth as much the phone itself and probably more now. I'm sometimes on ebay trying to find a bricked note 9 with a pristine screen to harvest but I've had no luck. It's mostly cracked screens lol.
Heads up for the future if any keys get ripped off and DAMAGED, you can find aftermarket keys to replace them super cheap. the lettering is normally slightly off as to not infringe copyrights and stuff but thats what I did for 2 keys on my laptop and they cost me next to nothing
Something people will never pay attention to. Socks. Socks used to be made of beautiful breathable material like pure cotton or wool. But after decades the quality has been changing slowly. Now, socks have very minimal grade quality materials. They no longer let your feet “breathe”. The materias are not stretchy so it’s uncomfortable. Now if you want good comfortable socks they will cost you almost four times more than the mass produced. It’s insane.
Yes! I buy socks as a semi-joke gift for my manufacturing worker brother in law every year. 12 pairs at least. He gets holes in them earlier and earlier. These last dozen pairs only lasted him to October this year.
Yes!
ugh YES IM SO SICK OF SWAMP FEET!! the combo of fabrics is like 70% some plastic fabric and 30% cotton for some tiny socks. absurd! it also didn’t help that my dad somehow managed to lose all of my old high quality socks in the laundry. so tired of this and I’m barely an adult
top of my christmas list was socks and the best pair i got was almost 30 bucks. FOR ONE PAIR. its absurd
I work a giant used garmets warehouse, recently my job changed to collecting vintage. The quality difference between new stuff compared to Y2K is crazy, usually you can tell what's vintage by how heavy it is, by how thick the fabric and neck is. Also the older Carhartt pants are just better than the newer ones. Newer jeans are just shittier.
I haven't bought new clothes since 2018, I've had clothes that are several years old that I haven't replaced, all my new clothes are second hand either from my job or from when I use to thrift. You can even find good second hand shoes, just need to replace the sole, plus older shoes look cooler and has higher quality
@@2_ratsplz And guess what, ripped jeans and torn clothes become a fashion.
Im a tailor of historical men's suits, I work with a lot of vintage cloth from 1900 to 1960. It is COMPLETELY different to modern cloth. Even the very good stuff at $150 a yard.
It is SO heavy even at the same thickness cos its woven so much tighter. Which drapes better. Its warmer. It lasts for ever.
I legitimately tried 4 coffee makers in 2021 until I found my KitchenAid model that’s actually built well.
Light bulb manufacturers overdrive the LED modules so that they don’t last 20+ yrs
I’ve learned to do electronics repair DIY because I can’t stand planned obsolescence.
I use a Braun KF 140 from either the late 80s or early 90s and it's perfect.
I've been trying to be more conscious about the things I buy and spend money on clothes that actually lasts. once you start paying attention to the actual fabric makeup of new clothes it's honestly infurating how nothing is made with good material anymore. i'll find cute clothes and check the tags only to find out that it's $50+ for an item that's 100% polyester. meanwhile, I have random tops passed down to me from the early 2000s and they still look great despite being from department stores, turns out they're all made up of entirely natural fibers.
As someone from a country that doesn't have credit scores, it amazes me that the US of all places has them. I thought the idea was supposed to be very communistic and dystopian?
The only difference between the Chinese system and the American one seems to be state-managed vs private company managed. Which... I don't know which is more worse to be honest.
I mean China gives you a score based on your moral actions, credit score is more about your financial trustworthiness. I don’t think the two are remotely comparable
There are some important differences between the Chinese and American system. The surveillance is much more intrusive than what is found in America. The things that can lower your social credit score are much more personal than that found in America: buying too many video games, posting fake news, bad driving, not visiting your elders, or cheating in video games can all lower your credit score. A too low credit score may cause you your internet speed to be throttled or being banned from travelling including buying train tickets or booking into hotels. In Jinan, pet owners who had a too low credit score had their dogs took off them in 2017. Depending on your parents social credit score your educational choices may also be limited. A student from Beijing got banned from enrolling in higher education because their father failed to repay a loan. I have no doubts that if American companies could implement such a system they would but, at the moment, the Chinese social credit system is probably worse than what you think it is.
@@Artofcarissayou don't have a clue what you're talking about
You'd be amazed by the amount of blatantly dystopian shit that right wing Americans lap up because they've been spoonfed some horse shit about how it somehow doesn't count if it's a rich CEO getting even more rich instead of a rich politician.
No one in China has ever heard of a social credit system. It's purely an Internet meme in the west.@@Artofcarissa
When I moved out on my own in 1991, my dad gave me kitchen appliances and a TV that he and my mom had been given as wedding presents in 1968! And they worked great. Most of them didn't break down until about ten years ago! I'm serious. Do you think a GE blender that you buy new in 2023 will still be in use 40 years later? Nope! But that one made in 1968 sure as hell did!
TVs and Toasters are tech to the average progressive viewer based on the comments here.
Not renewable energy that you can buy for peanuts right now.
Green Party Socialists have no clue about renewables, bc they watch this and think its progressive.
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My parents have a washer and dryer that have been donated to all 4 of their kids first apartments and have never had any issues. They got it when they first got married in 1989! The washer and dryer they bought when they moved into a new place in 2006 has had to repaired numerous times. It’s crazy
@@May_Berry_ the washer/drier thing is so damn noticeable, i still remember our older drier lasted for 30ish years and since that broke down, we had to buy a few new ones already because "the parts were too outdated and could be repaired" according to the companies.
Its literally easier to buy a used well made product than try to figure out which Amazon option will even work at all
@@crackthefoundation_ Nailed it.
You won't be a victim of Darwinism very likely.
"cHiNa HAs a SoCiaL cReDiT sYsTem!"
America: "Sorry. We understand that you're more than qualified for this job, but we have to deny your application because your credit score is low. Company rules. =D"
The smiley at the end is actually perfect. Because that's pretty much what most American systems do. They are the either close to or are the worse version of everything officials project about other countries... but with a white smiley face slapped over it. Therefore "better".
I’ll take America over China any day
Ha! Funny how Murica does a lot of the shit they accuse China of. And I'm no China simp. At all. While we're on this subject here's your daily reminder US has ~4% of the world's population, yet ~25% of the prisoners somehow. Freedom!
Unless you're in the financial sector or do something related to finance you won't have your credit checked
@@HH-le1viokay so only people who work in finance deserve to have their life ruined over a personal bankruptcy?
I’m only at the beginning of the video but my prediction is: companies used to make things to last, then realized it was more profitable to not do that.
the video starts with him saying that lol
You're right because that's the explanation for most problems in the world, in one way or another
Industrial revolution/modern capitalism is behind it. The markets are big enough to not care about having repeat customers. When we had blacksmiths and shoemakers they wanted you to return for repairs and to be proud of their marksmanship
It’s not even that it’s more profitable for them to do it. It’s NOT profitable for them to not do it because, if everyone has a functional, long-lasting device, the original company goes out of business because there’s no one left to sell their things to. So you as a company almost _have_ to make your products break unless you want to go out of business
@@EroticInfernoor they can sell parts to repair the products instead like in the past?
idk if theyll talk about it but sewing machines are a perfect example of a product that hasnt gotten planned obsolecence! the biggest brands of sewing machines, singer, brother, etc., still sell old models from like the 70s on their official sites because and they do all the jobs theyre supposed to. the newer models will have like screens and more stitch options, but if you dont care about that you can get a machine thatll last your whole life. you can especially see this when you find an antique sewing machine before they even looked how they do today. usually, antique sewing machines still work with just a little tuning.
im really glad there are some companies left that seem to care about the products they put out! but theyre few and far between
I remember reading the Bra vox article a while ago! Stuck with me not least because a bra is such a good example of an object that should be resilient and made well. I’m sick of things that just don’t do what they’re for, don’t fit, or are too expensive.
Companies are lowering the standard on production to cut costs and maximize profits. Its pretty obvious they've gotten shittier and greedier simultaneously
Theyre scared because they forgot how hated they are and they understood it now. Aristocrats used to hide away from peasants to not get murdered. Now they go on interviews and try to yet public affection, and lately they remembered how much most people (other than bootlickers) hate them and wish we could meet them without cameras or witnesses around.
a perfect anecdotal example i can give about forced obsolescence/consumer engineering is about the backpacks i’ve owned. the old red one i had as a kid like 18yrs ago is worn down but very much still functional. damn near ever backpack since has broken in some way, and now i have a 70-80+ yr old backpack that was my dedo’s from poland. minus some outer pockets that have holes that i can totally fix the only thing that’s broken on it was the leather draw string that i replaced with a rope.
my parents got me an REI backpack when i was a baby, probably about 20 years ago. i now use it for work and hiking and its great. i found a 1945 backpack at an antique store and regret not getting it tbh, bet itd be sturdy as hell
Literally just started reading a book exactly about this, written 1960 - « The Waste Makers » by Vance Packard. Highly recommend for anyone wanting to understand more about how deeply rooted planned obsolescence is in capitalism, even in the late 20th century.
i remember that in my house we never changed the fridge and washing machine until i was like 17 since then we´ve gone through 2 of each and i am 23 now
ive had my laptop for 6 years now and it no longer stays on unless it is plugged in, the battery is constantly at 0%, and i usually have to turn it on twice in the morning (it turns itself off the first time usually) but i'll be damned if i'm not going to use this thing until it literally dies and i cant use it anymore. i may not be cheating any systems but ill be as stubborn as i fucking want while im being played by them.
I'm the same. I also just hate getting used to new things. I like my stuff and just want to keep using it 😢
My work laptop is terrible. Completely unusable within like 2-3 years, which coincidentally is when the warranty ends.
My old laptop was like this… might have been because I accidentally left it plugged in during a thunderstorm though 😅
The thing with cars nowadays to making them last long is maintenance - maintenance, maintenance, maintenance and that’s how you can get your car to last decades.
Like I have a 2003 Corolla S, which still runs perfect today because of maintenance.
And yes, maintenance is hella expensive to get your car to last decades.
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 They’re not taking my car child. 😂😍🥰🤣
Maintenance can definitely help a car built pre 2010ish last much longer. Most cars now have what they call a "closed transmission system". An amazing advancement in car technology! you never have to change transmission fluid for the "life of the car"! Accept nothing really changed. Other than the "life of the car" part being 80k miles instead of 200k miles... They are actively prohibiting you from doing proper maintenance. You can still change transmission fluid and you should. But it's a huge pain in the ass now. Just one example in cars. It's everything.
@@e.and.f That's unfortunate.
@@e.and.f That's a bad example. There is nothing about a closed transmission that makes it harder to perform maintenance. The point is so owners don't accidently put foreign fluids into the transmission via the dipstick. They still drain and refil the same.
@@shelbyseitzinger927 Huh, that's sooo weird because my 2018 Nissan has that and the dealership is the only one allowed to do ANY service on the transmission. So weird that it's failed 3x now. Had to switch over to a Kia
It's also a rich vs poor thing too. The Vimes theory of boots. "A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet."
The rich (and I'm talking about old money, not new money) can afford quality and it's maintenance. The poor can't and don't have the choices to buy quality which are available to the rich.
over the past few years ive transitioned into mostly thrifting rather than buying "new" stuff and i guess this is pretty much why. especially with clothing, i really only ever find good quality stuff at thrift stores
It's so Vox how in the end this video blames this on regular people's behavior. "We want to buy a lot of stuff". Classic liberal angle of "What we have to do to fix society is get every single person to individually change their behavior, which is impossible, so the status quo is inevitable."
Pepsi went from 8 packs to 6 pack and are still the same price
I'm just glad to know I'm not going insane. Though now I know there's a cause for the anxiety I feel that eventually everything will just go away, idk if that makes me feel better or worse that it's actually real and not in my head
When they mention cars, my biggest annoyance comes to mind. New cars only leave enough room for a jack and not a jackstand, meaning that only a car lift can get the vehicle up in the air to work on for most stuff.
even the lightbulbs theory is 100% accurate. I got these bulbs from ikea for probably the most frequently used lamps in my house that were a bit more expensive than the regular bulbs but promised a longer life (& i was frustrated with changing them so often). It has been around 10 years since then and theyre still working perfectly fine, not even a little bit dim
Damn do you know if they still sell them?
This is why I buy vintage clothing as much as possible. I still have my 1st pair of designer jeans from Calvin Klein that I bought with my h.s. graduation money back in the 1970s. Ditto for my full grain leather car coat from the 1980's, it's in perfect condition. The leather coats in stores now are trash unless you spend $2000 for a designer leather coat. And even then, I doubt that they're made of full grain leather. They still fit & look decent. I still have the microwave I took from my parent's kitchen when I left for college, it still works. Women need to let go of the fast fashion trends, spend the extra $$ & buy fewer items of higher quality, clothes that will last for decades.
That car take was wild. Cars were not safe, they invented crumple zones, seatbelts, disc brakes, air bags, etc. cars used to have metal dashboards and no seat belts. The cars were meant to survive a crash, not so much the people inside, but yes, new cars these days are cheap plastic shit, and Covid only made this worse.
I agree with this part. But the sad thing is the safe small cars in the US is now slowly been replaced by large pickup trucks which are not heavily regulated due to it being considered as a large vehicle, making it cheaper to manufacture. It's a big money machine for the car manufacturers, that's why they are heavily advertised in the US. Not just bikes covered this one.
Highly agree! Cars simply weren't as safe and honestly weren't as reliable as people think they were back in the day.
Planned obsolescence phases out the need for specialised trades. Taylors, cobblers, many aspects of the building trades and auto mechanics which is what made it so easy to ship those “jobs” overseas.
I first learned about planned obsolesce in Wheres Wally (waldo for you US folks) on a vhs tape from of a show ran in 1991. It's sad that we haven't really overcome it.
(episode Ahead of the future)
Has a great quote,
"Roses are red, violets are blue, it's an age old problem and that's your clue"
When hunting for their mission of discovering planned obsolesce it's on youtube if you like old tv shows.
Bought a cheap TCL tv and it lasted right up until the warranty expired… “You get what you pay for.”
it’s LIKE shrinkflation but it’s actually closer to skimpflation! in the food example it’s when companies use a lower quality ingredient to substitute out higher cost ones, like using corn syrup instead of cane sugar.
Cut out all unneeded expenses just the bear necessities.... We are a gambler society with virtually no federal protections on the verge of yet again a imperialist great war aka ww3.... for there is no war but the class war.
I'm so lucky my grandmother put me on her line of credit when i was a kid so i have a 680-700+ credit score at all times, it's genuinely saved my ass especially with vet bills since i was able to take out loans at relatively low interest rates. Just qualifying for the loans in the first place was a life saver for real.
But did you just look at it to check? Because then it's lower lol
@@rudeboyjohn3483credit karma doesnt lower your score
I would expect it to be higher if she had good credit..
@@rudeboyjohn3483it doesn’t work like that anymore. lol
this is why i sew, knit, and crochet my own clothes. they look how i want them to look and they last a long ass time 👍
I am a knitter and it takes like 15-20 balls of yarn to knit a sweater, and balls of yarn (I’m a yarn snob, only like wool) can be $20 a piece. After I knit a couple of sweaters I swore never again.
@wplants9793 damn! i use natural fibers, mixed fibers, and acrylic. to knit a sweater i just made (dk weight, wool, 7mm needles) it took me 4 balls and around $50. well, they were hanks that i wound into a ball.
though, one sweater i made took around 10 hanks and around $150-$200. it ended up being super warm, though LOL!
my parents still have their keyboard from before i was born, my dad has been wearing the same shirts and coats for decades(give or take a few), and we have so many appliances they got as wedding gifts(nearly 2 and a half decades old atp,) that we still use. taking dad clothes isnt even about the 'dad fashion', its the fact his coat is good quality and still in such good quality after all these years
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the dishwasher in my mothers kitchen has been there for over 30 years and still runs perfectly. growing more and more fearful of the day when it stops working
The complete topic change halfway through? Lol. I was like wait what video did I click..?
Yeah but the problem is with fashion isn't that you know you're not reading the care label The problem is that the fabric is woven with less threads but also the other problem is that they're not usually always sewn together well. If you don't sew the fabric together in a good manner it will pull apart at the seams but also by not having a higher amount of thread that goes into the fabric then it wears down much easier and it's more likely that it gets pulled up part at the seams now satin it's just woven a little bit differently it has nothing to do with the amount of thread that goes into it but it does require a little bit more thread to be a little bit stronger and unfortunately these companies are just you know who's to say and that's why you kind of have to figure out the weight of the fabric per yard because if a garment is heavier but it's the same size and same amount of fabric as the matching garment the heavier one is going to last longer cuz it has more thread in it because it's going to take let's say you have thread that weighs 150 GSM versus one that's 300 I mean you literally have twice as much threat to wear through and let alone if they need pants that were like 450 or 500 if not 600 GSM those would be amazing work pants because they would have so much dread that has to be cut through in order for or worn through in comparison to 100 g or maybe 50 GSM
Haha I had to keep replacing my toaster until I said enough! I just make toast in the oven like I did back in the days of my childhood. 😂😂😂
same things happening with my favorite pair of headphones man. they changed manufacturers for the hyper x cloud ii when they got bought out by hp; apparently they suck ASS now compared to the ones made by kingston :/
the one thing I think that wastes our time the most is shit that breaks for no reason, or wears out. I've been complaining and complaining about buying a new phone over the past year. There are no headphone jacks, no removable batteries, I can't even take the back off of any phone on the market right now. Products are slowly being designed like this on purpose. They don't want you to fix it yourself.
Think about shoes. Converse was popular and used to hold up well for years... however the last pair I bought wore out under two years. The difference between 2014, and 2021 was astounding to me. I had one pair of converse in high school that lasted me until I was in my second year of college. I was a kid that wore those things to track meets, on the football field for marching band practice, or when I would walk somewhere with my friends which could be forest trails, the mall, some city center. Wherever I went I was wearing my pair of converse shoes. And for me to replace it wasn't worth it for some ungodly reason. Now I don't even know what pair of shoes I want to buy next.
This is another of those issues that gives me anxiety as I get older. I also just realized that mid priced brands of clothing or home items are either the cheapest shit you've ever touched, went bankrupt, or have turned into a wannabe luxury brand.
My clothes basket. I have one from 20 years ago still works . Bought a new one and broke in 3 months
replacing a laptop battery is pretty easy unless it's super thin or designed so that it's a pain in the ass to repair, like a macbook for example
So I worked for a company that was building the prototype of fords mobile campers and bread trucks. And in a meeting with the team, I was specifically told that these things have the best frame and safety that they can make, but, these things don’t sell out a lot, so they are designed to be trash in about 3+ years. You can’t work on the engines, you can’t take your thing to any shop or even your back yard for tires or suspension or breaks. There is absolutely nothing the private consumer could do with it other than change its oil and drive it until it breaks down. And they could be spending upwards of $250,000 for something that they are just going to be throwing away in like 3 years. It was madness.
A new can opener will lay maybe a year or two before it breaks.
But I have an old from my grandparents that works like a charm every time, and it’s way older than me.
It’s nutz.
I still have one of the very few original macbook's that, even tho it's not a macPro, have an aluminum case & removable battery. I no longer have a working charge cord for this computer so I can't charge it. But I do plan to find one at some point so I can use it. Apple definitely doesn't want me to have it or be able to use it cuz it's modular and none of their laptops have been that way since 2006/7
The movie “A Beautiful Mind” is about the guy that came up with the idea behind this…. What’s weird is that it’s a biopic but they leave out his devil horns
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I never pay attention to this stuff, but I always see it in passing... From Tae-bo to Peloton, copper Moscow mule mugs to Yeti coolers to the Insta-pot. They come, they suck, they go, they are forgotten.
does the instapot suck? my mom's had one for like 5 years and she uses it all the time. i got one as a housewarming gift a year ago and i don't use it a lot but it seems pretty sturdy
Damn, I think I'm lucky cause I still have shirts I wore in middle school (I never really grew ahh) that still fit me and I'm in college now. Also, I never try getting what's new if I still have a working anything I don't buy anything even if I got some holes I can just stitch them if they are big. Like I'm still using the same sweater I used since either last year of middle school or first year of high school. Also, yeah laptops suck but I've noticed my ipad I got in 2019 or 2018 is still working so hopefully it lasts me another 4 years lol/
I don't get how some people obliterate their phone or laptop's batteries. As for the Apple batterygate thing, I can see why they did it, if a battery's life falls below a certain percentage, it's not going to last very long throughout the day. If they can throttle the powerstates of the phone, then it'll increase how long that phone can last on a single charge. Not defending it, but it should've been a user toggle-able option. The only two things that I see as specifically egregious from Apple, is that they do firmware checks on internal parts so you can't just replace a failing part, and that they charge _filthy mcnasty_ levels of margins on memory and storage upgrades.
Tha band on my $500 Sony headphones broke within a year and a half (!) so i contacted the licensed repair shop in Toronto and they said they had to replace the entire headband and it costs $360+ tax. A fucking outrage. 😠
ifixit has repair guides and repairability ratings for items. Also has information on the "right to repair" act
In brazil is common for homes to have an extra +50 years old fridge just in case your modern one stop working.
The lightbulb example doesn’t work to well because while yes they are made to only last for a certain amount of time the reason for that is that if they made super long lasting bulbs they would be pretty dark because it’s a trade off between brightness and lifetime(this is for filament not led because I don’t know about led bulbs)
filament light bulbs are illegal now and LEDs would last longer if they were designed better.
An example of non-obvious decision to reduce hardware lifetime was putting power line next to CPU data line. Those two shouldn’t be placed together as the max-currents and voltages vary wildly. Apple decided to put them next to an edge of the MacBook. As an engineer I can only say that motivation behind this design was obvious the first time I looked at the data sheets.
The first time you spill anything next to the laptop, you risk frying your CPU instantly. In fact this happened a lot in practice.
I have a netbook that I still use from 2012. I basically just use it as a type writer, it's not really good for anything else.
The laptop issue is so personal for me. I had a surface pro 6. And I accidentally dropped it while it was charging which caused the charging port to dent. I COULD NOT get it repaired. Simply not feasible they said. The laptop was not created to be repaired or have any parts replaced at all. It took me days to believe it but it was true. I had to buy an entirely new laptop because one tiny part of my old one was dented.
The light bulb thing Hasan talks about is wrong, but for the right reasons. Basically it's true that there were / are bulbs manufactured back in the day that could have lifetimes in the range of decades and there was an agreement to standardize and fix the costs and price of bulbs going forward.
The big thing to remember that in this particular case, the bulbs that lasted for that long were objectively worse than the ones that break and burn out a lot faster.
They're brighter and more guaranteed to put out the same brightness every time. The generational bulbs or however you'd wanna call them wouldn't be better than having dim candles.
It's still a good introduction to planned obsolescence, with the caveat that, there are better examples of products getting shittier over time or fantastic products paradoxically not being profitable and their business going under.
Instant Pot declaring bankruptcy for instance. They break too rarely and there's nothing else to sell once you buy an instant pot. Punished by the market for making a fantastic product.
I think it depends if you are intoa gaming. It's someone is true like you don't have to buy a new graphics card if you just bought the newest one like a year or two ago but every 5 years you could upgrade your graphics card because I mean like the PS3 was out in like 2008 2009. And that was 15 years ago those games could now be played on your phone because phones are so powerful The average person who doesn't play games does not need a phone that strong or powerful but essentially phones are as powerful now as computers were back in 2010. Realistically someone could release a phone that is also acts as a gaming PC it wouldn't be like the highest quality of games like it would probably like PS3 and prior level of games but yeah you could have a really awesome gaming console a full functioning computer and it all be inside your phone because that's just how good phones are now.
However if you're not playing video games on your phone you know what a phone that came out 5 years ago is fine or if you're like my some people I know then you probably could just make do with one of those old fashioned type flip phones
My niece and nephew are now playing with the remakes of my childhood toys and they're made so cheap like dollar store knockoffs.
I was wondering how our brand new couch and chair started falling apart. I looked inside and seen they're made with cardboard.
I’m old enough to remember a time when you could repair and even upgrade an apple device.
A 30 oz bag of chips for $5.00 is a hell of a deal
My favorite pair of pants got a hole in them from like a year and half's worth of wear, and I almost got a new pair, but then I took them to a tailor and they put a pretty clean looking interior patch on them for like 2 bucks.
gg when I took mine to a tailor they said 30. I only paid 28 for the jeans.
@appa609 would you rather wear in a new pair for the same price or wear the one that's broken in? did you try other tailors?
I have a Chromebook who's only issue is that the OS isn't supported by some streaming services. It's like eight years old and works perfectly fine. 😢
11:30 was the Senate staffer huh
cars are changing so much. It is virtually impossible to repair a modern vehicle DIY now and the dealerships are making it harder and harder for third party shops to do certain work because they need a specific mechanism that only the dealer has in increasing instances. Also these new "closed system" transmissions that you "never have to change fluids" for are ridiculous because they're doing that under the impression that the car doesn't need to last a typical lifetime! They're only promising like 100k instead of allowing you to do the work to make it last 200+
There's plenty of planned obsolescence in tech, but losing battery life over time is not really one of them. Batteries that are difficult to replace, that's planned obsolescence, but unfortunately, LiPO batteries just wear out over time. Its one of the big hurdles in switching to renewables on a larger scale.
11:20. The corporate fines are now just 'a cost of doing business'. Corporations in all sectors employ huge teams of highly-paid lawyers to dissuade dissatisfied customers from suing. If a lawsuit does lead to a conviction, the penalties are risible. Companies merely pay the fine, then jack the prices to absorb the cost. Industry lobbyists also bribe politicians to slash consumer protections, and push policies which defend corporations from legal jeopardy.
When any politician mentions the term 'deregulation', be aware that they are going after your right to accountability from business malpractice.
I buy second hand where possible it’s the only way to afford normal stuff. Like clothes made from cotton and a sofa that isn’t made of bits of string and stuffed with plastic bags, anything cheap on Amazon like smart bulbs etc is definitely stealing your information if it uses an app too so that’s fun.
My grandfather was a TV repairman. He would just go over to people’s houses and fix their broken TVs and radios. Change vacuum tubes and stuff. Black and white CRT TVs lasted fuckin forever.
if he's always going to eat he should have a picture of his food in the corner lol
Not everything is worse now. First thing that pops into my mind is all the new hiking and camping gear that I've bought. Way lighter and better materials than when I first started buying stuff twenty years ago. Next thing is good tools, like these new Klein multi tool screwdrivers are probably the best tools I've ever used.
a good example is the gtx 1080ti. A graphics card so good and for it's price was blowing everything else out the water so well they decided to never make it agian
First thing: new washing machines can suck a tugeye.
Also I may be a chronic spending addict who used fast fashion etc, but I also am not throwing things out. I take intense care of my items of all kinds. I have band shirts that are 17 yrs old that have no holes that I wear regularly. I just have a MASSIVE amount of things 🙃
Saw a clip from India recently where Lays sold a bag of chips for 5 rupees and the bag had only 2 chips in it.
Let me guess, Obamna?
Bra with durable outer casing to prevent fall-apart.
(at 5:00) Cars are safer now, but really only for those inside the car. They're far more dangerous for anyone outside the vehicle.
I wish he would stop using the lightbulb example, the 1000 hours was a sweet spot between bulb life and light quality, you could make them last a lot longer but if you compare the 2 lights to eachother, the longer lasting one is a lot dimmer
Cars too! They don't make em like that 2005 Toyota carry anymore.
40% of people buy new clothes once a month? I haven't bought new clothes in 2 years lol
my 2013 mac has outlived two of my friends 2020 macs
Can take your laptop battery out n just plug it in. Loses its portability, but it’s better than nothing.
Even without the battery, it’s still semi portable, at least when you compare it to if you tried moving a desktop tower (and monitor) from place to place regularly. you can still realistically use a batteryless laptop all over in your home or workplace at different spots with little hassle if you don’t mind having to restart it each time you move it, (or you could use a really long extension cord of course).
The video probably comes off as “boring” or annoying to some.. but we absolutely need more women like the ones in the video. In a decade + this is gonna matter so much! Everyone’s brains may not be susceptible to that change now but it’s a need in the future. We’re gonna see so many communities doing “trade” & relying on community.
I didn't realize freaking Gretchen Weeners was in the chat today, yeesh
What is planned obsolescence?
I think what's funny about this is that veritasium made a better edited video about the same topic in 2021
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The light bulb thing is nonsense.
Watch you some Technology Connections.
For the lightbulb example specifically, there's a little bit of justification for that, Technology Connections made a good video about it. This topic has more nuance than most people give it. Like yeah companies are shit, but like this issue specifically is a little complicated.
I had a class called consumer sociology in my second semester of studying marketing and what Hasan said about planned obsolescence is true. It's basically a way of generating demand. Functional obsolescence for insance happens when a new product has a technical progress compared to its predecessor. Planned obsolescence is a way of consciously causing dissatisfaction with the product, it's supposed to create the need for something new. And psychological obsolescence is the same thing, however it describes the psychological process on side of the customer. While there are technically more forms of obsolescence they all have the same goal, leave the consumer unsatisfied in hopes of him finding meaning in the useless shit he buys.
But what he said about cars is not true in the slightest, General Motors was one of the first to apply "dynamic/ planned obsolesence" in their business model. For a long time they switched up the model design without actually improving them in functionally meaningful ways. The model was supposed to be recognized as "an older model" when compared to the "latest one". In comparison, Ford wanted their cars to "last a lifetime", but I think that was just part of their brand strategy lol
Oh I can see it, I hate buying stuff. I don't even want to go to the supermarket anymore, everything disappoints. I'm amazing how this has worked so well for companies and hasn't caused EVERYONE to stop consuming ANYTHING AT ALL and just go touch grass smoke grass and lie down till we die.
planned obsolescence like 8 gb or 10 gb nvidia gpu's :P
My housemate fixes all the holes in my clothes, she sows and she's nice
I swear sweaters aren't as warm and soft anymore
10:43 - Honestly, what Apple did ACTUALLY was good.
While it was disgusting they didn't TELL you it was slower and to replace the battery to make it fast again....
As a battery ages, it can only delivery so much power at once, and that amount goes down as it ages. If the device draws too much power, and the battery can't give that, it'll reboot.
So... to keep the device WORKING to some degree longer... they reduced it's power draw -- they limited it's max brightness and cpu/gpu clock speed to stay under what the battery can deliver, so the device was at least USABLE just slower.
That was ACTUALLY good.
They just didn't tell anybody they did this, and what the solution was if they didn't want to upgrade.
But... that's the CORE philosophy behind current manufacturer trends -- they cut corners / don't provide information, or a solution, and people have little choice and assume the device is merely just worn out.
This kind of thing NEEDS to be illegal.
As a consumer, I should have AT MINIMUM, every firmware file (it can even be encrypted and ready to deploy to device, and if it needs to be unique to device, too bad, you can't do that), board views, schematics, parts lists, and data sheets for every part.
Is it a lot of work for somebody who wants to build a product to sell? Sure.
But we can't continue how we are operating, where lack of information is the biggest driver to ewaste, over consumption, and artificially inflated demand for products merely because they are DESIGNED to fail at X years given their materials / defects.
If I wanted to "dropship" a device, I should make information available to whom manufacturers it, with all the needed info. Sure, it's more work, but we can't keep generating so much waste. We just can't.