Words matter. Rant justified. I think it’s important to have clear terminology so people can distinguish marketing from reality and have a common understanding for discussion. The topic is fraught with peril but I’m glad you’re shining a light on it.
Thanks for making this video. It's an excellent demonstration of the different modes. A regular paraphonic synth shares a single filter. Since the MiniFreak has 6 filters, it would try to make the best use of them. So for instance you could press 6 keys in rapid succession and each note gets its own filter. For keys 7-12 it would have to reuse the first/oldest filter for each new note and the key that the filter was taken from would have to combine with another old key's filter. A cheesy name could be "Pair-a-phonic" where each pair of notes could share a filter. This likely isn't exactly correct since the keys-to-filters don't necessarily have to be in pairs. Perhaps hexaphonic polyphony would be more accurate to indicate some kind of rotating recycling/reuse of the filters for the 12 notes.
I have written, spoken, and produced a lot of content regarding the confusion about what constitutes polyphony, and what, conversely, constitutes articulation of polyphony (filters, envelopes, amps). Companies have vastly muddied the waters of clear description of these various functions, unfortunately, and the telephone effect of the Internet hasn’t helped!
This is exactly the detail I wanted to know about the MiniFreak's voice settings - so thank you for that. I don't have to understand all of the digital magic - but I wanted to know the kinds of sound options that Arturia were aiming for with this synth. As is often said in these matters : if it sounds good - it is good!
Ha that was a great explanation, I always thought the paraphonic name for this was weird but didn't think too hard! Considering the Taiga gor example has a "paraphonic" mode where two notes can be played at once but all sharing a filter and envelope, the minifreaks mode with the same name couldnt be more different than that 😂
Nice video man! Does it mean that I can stack 6 sequences on top of each other in mono mode ? And if I split the 2 oscillators, does it mean I could stack up to 12 mono sequences?
It would be interesting to test the “paraphonic” mode further 12:49 have 6 notes permanently held (by an external sequencer) and then play short notes on top of it. That should give information about how the pairing works.
...think i might pull the trigger on this thing & Keylab 49 or 61 tooo control it: just can't decide man¿as usual, once again & one more time udahman, Udahbest Doty UrgUrU thanx again dude
It looks to me like it's a 12-note, single-voice polyphonic synth when it is in what they call 'paraphonic' mode... if that's the case, it should have been just labeled as 1-voice vs 2-voice mode.
@@automaticgainsay OK so I was really impressed with this vid, how you explained the multiphonic thing, how it should not be called paraphonic due to many things being involved, ie, the envelope, the filter etc per voice. So I asked Wagoo and I will ask you, since you sacrifice the 2nd OSC to add the extra 6 voices, do you think Arturia could somehow make a pseudo binaural mode like a UDO 6 by had panning the 1st OSC R and then the 2nd OSC L and making these 12 voices stacked in a 6 voice super mode? This is how I see it, I don't know if I have it right but given what Arturia have achieved to get the extra 6 voices, maybe they would be able to get something like this to happen?
Nerd alert. It’s better than paraphonic. If they made up a new term nobody would understand it. We are all impressed with you knowledge of synthesis but I didn’t hear any terrifying truths here.
Thanks for the video Mark, Even as a tester for this synth I have found this series in-depth
Thank you! That's really cool!
That was one of the most educationally fascinating 17 minutes of my life. Thank you! I own the MiniFreak, and I now look at it with more respect.
Thank you!
you must be terribly uneducated then.
Words matter. Rant justified. I think it’s important to have clear terminology so people can distinguish marketing from reality and have a common understanding for discussion. The topic is fraught with peril but I’m glad you’re shining a light on it.
Words matter. Experience matters more.
Thanks for making this video. It's an excellent demonstration of the different modes. A regular paraphonic synth shares a single filter. Since the MiniFreak has 6 filters, it would try to make the best use of them. So for instance you could press 6 keys in rapid succession and each note gets its own filter. For keys 7-12 it would have to reuse the first/oldest filter for each new note and the key that the filter was taken from would have to combine with another old key's filter. A cheesy name could be "Pair-a-phonic" where each pair of notes could share a filter. This likely isn't exactly correct since the keys-to-filters don't necessarily have to be in pairs. Perhaps hexaphonic polyphony would be more accurate to indicate some kind of rotating recycling/reuse of the filters for the 12 notes.
I have written, spoken, and produced a lot of content regarding the confusion about what constitutes polyphony, and what, conversely, constitutes articulation of polyphony (filters, envelopes, amps). Companies have vastly muddied the waters of clear description of these various functions, unfortunately, and the telephone effect of the Internet hasn’t helped!
Your series on the Minifreak is completely awesome and highly educational at the same time. Well done.
Thank you!
This is exactly the detail I wanted to know about the MiniFreak's voice settings - so thank you for that. I don't have to understand all of the digital magic - but I wanted to know the kinds of sound options that Arturia were aiming for with this synth. As is often said in these matters : if it sounds good - it is good!
Now I can't wait to get this!
As a relatively new Minifreak owner, I found this video super helpful. Thanks!
I’m glad to help!
This was really good! I’m new to synthesis and it helped. I’ll certainly be rewatching this. Thank you!
Can you poly chain two Minifreaks to get true 12 note polyphony, 24 note in the mode you have been speaking of?
This is the type of nerdiness that's going to get Doty into the Synth Hall of fame 😎
Piano machine go brrr
You might not believe me, but this is one of my favorite comments in 17 years of doing this.
Ha that was a great explanation, I always thought the paraphonic name for this was weird but didn't think too hard! Considering the Taiga gor example has a "paraphonic" mode where two notes can be played at once but all sharing a filter and envelope, the minifreaks mode with the same name couldnt be more different than that 😂
I dont know if Marc suffers from GAS but it appears he has a serious case of RAS - Ring Acquisition Syndrom.
:D
Split-Osc-Poly-Doubling is what Im calling it 😁
Thanks for another great vid!
Pseudophonic
Quasiphonic
Metrophonic
Hexaphonic
Dodecaphonic
Hookedonphonic
fk, now im confused again...
cacophonic...;)
Beautiful I noticed this noodling with it 🎉
Nice video man! Does it mean that I can stack 6 sequences on top of each other in mono mode ?
And if I split the 2 oscillators, does it mean I could stack up to 12 mono sequences?
Thanks for the explanation. Can the mink freak do stereo allocation of voices or oscillators in any of the modes, at all??
Just about any stereo chorus pedal can produce that effect for you.
It would be interesting to test the “paraphonic” mode further 12:49 have 6 notes permanently held (by an external sequencer) and then play short notes on top of it. That should give information about how the pairing works.
Any chance of u doing video for sequencer
Very good video TY
Thank you!
@@automaticgainsay liked and subscribed! Excellent materials on several synths I own! Happy happy joy joy! =)
...think i might pull the trigger on this thing & Keylab 49 or 61 tooo control it: just can't decide man¿as usual, once again & one more time udahman, Udahbest Doty UrgUrU thanx again dude
It looks to me like it's a 12-note, single-voice polyphonic synth when it is in what they call 'paraphonic' mode... if that's the case, it should have been just labeled as 1-voice vs 2-voice mode.
If we dont call it freakaphonic it will be a missed opportunity
You should create your own Wiki called Marcophonic...
ha ha haa
@@automaticgainsay OK so I was really impressed with this vid, how you explained the multiphonic thing, how it should not be called paraphonic due to many things being involved, ie, the envelope, the filter etc per voice.
So I asked Wagoo and I will ask you, since you sacrifice the 2nd OSC to add the extra 6 voices, do you think Arturia could somehow make a pseudo binaural mode like a UDO 6 by had panning the 1st OSC R and then the 2nd OSC L and making these 12 voices stacked in a 6 voice super mode?
This is how I see it, I don't know if I have it right but given what Arturia have achieved to get the extra 6 voices, maybe they would be able to get something like this to happen?
OH NO! Here we go again! 😅
I knew this was coming....
I swear Arturia resurrected Merlin in Brocéliande and have him on their payroll or something.
“Big, unusable punch in the face” lol
Its called freak for a reason;)
Psychophonic?
2:58☝🏾
Splittinghairsaphony 😏... to those who want it to respond like a piano ... just get a piano ... I can play this synth with one finger.
I think it’s periperiphonic
a dictionary description would take less than 30 seconds to read.
Thanks for sharing
Nerd alert. It’s better than paraphonic. If they made up a new term nobody would understand it. We are all impressed with you knowledge of synthesis but I didn’t hear any terrifying truths here.
YES YOU DID