My drama class is doing this tomorrow in chapel! i am able to do the girl with the red balloon its so awesome because the words are so true and its a fun skit to do with my friends because they are such wonderful actors! :) thank you for doing this it helps reach people who need to hear!
As a colour deficient person (who can see that the balloon is red), my uncle would say that the balloon is green. He'd say this because he can't see red at all (whereas I can see red when it's clear). My uncle isn't lying. It really does look green to him. So for him, the word "green" means both green and red. In his classification system, they are one category, not two. Although truth may not change, how it is expressed can vary.
@1boy1dr You're right, science does change, constantly. Science paints a picture of the world - of it's beauty, it's complexity, and it's harmony - and that picture, by it's very nature, is never complete. Religion takes a picture painted 2000 years ago and crams the wold in to fit the picture, no matter how poorly it fits and all to often casting all of that beauty and complexity of the real world. And in that, you are also correct - religion never changes.
You can prove that it is red because color is defined as the wave length of light that the eye perceives, if everybody else is seeing different colors in that balloon there are pigment deficiencies in their eyes. The wavelength of red is around 400 nano meters, if you take this balloon to India and measure the wave length of reflected light it will be around 400, the same in Ecuador, the USA, Finland, Mars, Uranus, or any other place in the universe.
Now, by saying nothing can possibly be outside the universe, the problem of where everything originally came from arises again. Having faith that it was always is more ludicrous than thinking God was always, and believing it just appeared is even more implausible.
To believe that a Creator existed forever would indeed contradict cause-and-effect. However, that is assuming He is within the creation itself. When a person makes something, say a book, they are not confined to its story, setting, or mood. Likewise, a Creator who would have created the universe would exist outside of it, and not be bound by its rules, such as time.
And yet, when Darwin was older and looking back at his life, he commented that his entire theory could be compromised by the activities and intricacies of a single beehive.
@griffinajg The real point is that saying "the nice thing about the truth is that it's always true" is a logically nonsensical statement. It's the same as saying something like "the great thing about the sky is that its always the sky" or "the neat thing about blue is that its always blue". The statement that the "great thing about the truth is that its true" belongs in a hallmark card, not as part of a logical conversation
The balloon *is* red. No one will argue that because that's a truth that is easy to ascertain. And there is objective evidence to back it up (the electro-magnetic wavelength reflected off the balloon might be measured to be in the range 625 to 740 nm). Unfortunately, religion is not so easy to figure out.
it would stink if you are colour blind, or a dog, or a deep sea fish, or a mole. or if there is no light, or if the atmosphere is different. (breaking of light) beautifully illustrates the issue though.
@MegaMsPerfect1 I agree with you to an extent, but if the person keeps on asking questions, then I don't believe that we should simply ignore them and walk away. If they're determined not to believe, then yes leave them alone, but if they seem genuinely interested (instead of simply trying to prove you wrong) then I don't think there's any reason not to keep talking to them.
DNA is information with content. It has a 4-letter language. Whenever you see written information in a book or computer-code, it's obvious to you that someone wrote it. Check it out. It's amazing.
They should've used a spectrophotometer to measure the wavelength of the light coming off the balloon. It wouldn't tell them if they were all 'perceiving' the same color, or how to define it, but it would tell them what the sensory input was that their eyes were gathering. Math is universal, science is testable and repeatable, and reality is true whether you believe in it or not. :)
And yet, that's assuming that one cannot use truth to establish belief. If one completely suspends all beliefs, desires, and prejudices and simply looks at the truth of the world, the sheer volume of incredible and unexplainable things would logically point to some sort of intelligent creation, which then directs attention to a Creator, whom is often referred to in religious text, namely the Bible.
We had to do this in church today - so fun and I was the crazy one that saw different colours - we had a talk then about how Jesus was around whether you believe it or not
If one enquires scientifically, as you have said, huge problems appear. How did the first matter come into existence? If one says it was always present, then other pieces of this train of thought fall apart. If the matter was always there, then our universe must not be based in cause-and-effect. And yet, something causing a certain effect to occur is exactly what scientific study accomplishes. From this one simple problem, the logical conclusion is that Someone created the first matter.
@drivetwister Exactly. Then why is this woman KNOW that the balloon is red? Wouldn't the point then be that you should be open to ALL beliefs? So Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, Atheism would all be treated with the same respect if no one could know for sure what is true and what is not true.
Red is red. Truth is truth. God is God. No matter what "viewpoint" you look at Him from, He will always be God. It doesn't matter how we think we see Him, it matters who He is.
@frankvonfrauner I will be going into the hospital for some surgery and will be unavailable for a month or so due to rehab after an amputation, so I will not be able to go on with this back and forth. I have enjoyed the conversation and perhaps we will pick it up at another time. In the mean time, I will be praying for you.
@charlzm So, then the balloon holder isn't incorrect because she sees it as Red. If then, the color is subjective, then arguing over the color of the balloon is futile, because then people will always see differently.
@AHarmlessBlackMan any truth can be labeled as unsound if you don't want it to be sound. the question is, who ultimately gets to decide what is and isn't sound?
I know this will seem really boring and all.... but "truly" that balloon is not red. Red is a colour. Colour is caused by the broad spectrum of "white" light - that is light containing all the different frequencys that make the different colours - being absorbed by the balloon except for the range that bounces off the balloon. That range just happens to be recieved by my eyes in a way that I have been taught to call red. The balloon is not on its own red.
This skit could have been made by a follower from any religion. Everyone thinks that they are seeing the "red balloon" and everyone else is seeing it incorrectly.
Do we look at a great machine, with all it's parts moving in prefect unison, perfect harmony, perfect symmetry, and say that it made itself? Of course not, that'd be ridiculous. I look at our solar system. We live on a planet the perfect distance away from the sun to sustain life, and that life is able to take the nutrients that sun provides us and live. Other creatures will eat these plants, and live, and so on and so on. It all screams "intelligent design!"
@frankvonfrauner "Slavery" in the Bible that was allowed under God's law was not the same thing as we think of for slavery today. "Slaves" had rights and protection under the law. There were not allowed to be mistreated. They were compensated. There were slaves for limited periods of time unless the "slave" decided at the end of his service to continue for life. I could go on with the differences, but what was allowed (not promoted) under the law had very little resemblance to slavery today.
more ex.: Charles Babbage - creator of the computer; James Clerk Maxwell - summarized all electricity, magnetism and optics to a few equations that still form the basis of electromagnetic theory; Louis Pasteur ( everybody knows him!). Gregor Mendel ( genetics); Stephen Hales; Isaac Newton; Nicolaus Steno; Johannes Kepler; Michael Faraday; Georges Cuwler; Alberto Magno; Jean Baptiste Carnoy; Nicolas de Cusa; Carolus Linnaeus; Robert Boyle; Charles Bell ... and so on.
Hardly a 'veil over the temple' moment though was it. The point I'm making is that if you are in any way serious about establishing 'the truth', you have to suspend belief, not engage in it. Thats why its paradoxical to find this point presented as part of a religious sketch.
@DanLee8884 Absolute Truth exists. Period. That is the statement made in this video. Human beings (and other beings such as intelligent animals) have experiences that interpret the experience and create OPINION or BELIEF. It is essential that truth not be confused with belief. There is no "My Truth / Your Truth". Absolute truth is and always will be. There is and always will be "My Belief / Your Belief". The idea [cont'd]
@DanLee8884 You are right about some truth being unknowable, but we are in constant pursuit of it. However, we live in a concrete world where it doesn't matter what people's experiences are, just because my experience is different than others doesn't make my "version" right or wrong. Truth IS black and white, perceptions do not mean that person's "truth" of a particular subject make the order of the universe shape to that view. Truth IS and cannot be compromised just because I think it will.
@drivetwister then why are there planets that aren't in perfect natural equilibrium like earth is? did the intelligent designer just make those for fun?
@horngal88 I think its more complicated that...I think its kind of funny that we Protestant Christians argue against the whole I believe/you believe thing cuz to me it seems like the Reformation was all about how everyone one could interpret the scriptures....I mean the Catholic Church made it about one interpretation...then protestants kind of opened the pandora's box with their different interpretations....then denominations formed all over the place....
@ZomusPrime - How did the first matter come into existence? We don't know for certain. Maybe we can't ever figure it out. But I fail to follow the leap of logic that this proves an entity we call "God" made everything.
It's not so much that truth is God's... but that God IS truth. He is the gold standard by which we measure truth. And his truth is self-evident. This video focuses on that simple fact. Truth is truth, no matter what you say about it.
That strikes me as a ridiculous thing to say - this line is often trotted out by those of a religious inclination. I agree that intelligence appears as a natural part of existence but to conjure up the image of some benevolent old gentleman beavering away in his cosmic workshop just seems plain daft.
@RetartedWaffles it's more broader than that, it applies to any kind of indoctrination or misinformation. Point being: be critical, make questions, if someone presents you new evidence, take the time to consider it.
Atheist says: I don't believe in God! Christian says: Really, well I don't believe in bullets. Does my belief negate reality? Atheist says: God just doesn't exist so his laws and your definition of Hell doesn't apply to me. Christian says: Trucks don't exist, therefore if I stand in the middle of this highway, this so-called Truck coming towards me can't harm me cause this is not my definition of a truck and it doesn't apply to me!?
But if one accepts intelligence as a key and natural part of life, yet denies a Creator, then to what end does that acceptance go? Intelligence cannot exist without some being to hold it. To believe that would be more ridiculous than what your propose to be so.
@drivetwister I just read that and all of the 'prophecy' was simply coincidental. There is no mention of names, no mention of date, and no mention what weapons that are used. I can make a 'prophecy' too: Some day, America will experience a serious national tragedy, one that changes our lives. There, if some great tragedy DOES happen I've just predicted it with the same amount of detail as Ezekiel 26:1-14.
"This video is the perfect illustration for why Hinduism is true. Argue all you want, but the truth is the truth, no matter what anyone else believes." -- filorps, 1 day ago. Never forget the truth.
But I'm not claiming it to be the arbiter of truth. Science isn't perfect, and has never claimed to be perfect. But it's better than any previous method for determining what is likely to be true.
@db22170 I agree...however I believe that only God knows what is absolute truth...humans get into trouble when they say what they believe is absolute truth....that's why I think that no matter how sure we are about something, we MUST always have our minds and ears open...there is nothing wrong with hearing people out....just because we listen to the other side doesn't mean we agree with them or anything....
@AHarmlessBlackMan You obviously didn't read too far into it, because they go into a great amount of detail. "Nebuchadnezzar will destroy the mainland of Tyre" (Ezekiel 26:8), Many nations against Tyre (Ezekiel 26:3), Make her a bare rock; flat like the top of a rock (Ezekiel 26:4), Fishermen will spread their nets over the site (Ezekiel 26:5), Throw the debris into the water (Ezekiel 26:12), Never be rebuilt (Ezekiel 26:14), Never be found again (Ezekiel 26:21).
@DanLee8884 agreed, i think it would have been a really poignant video if the balloon was a different color from all of their interpretations. by declaring that one of the people is right, they narrow the scope of the video significantly. reinforcing the faith of "red" people by painting belittling caricatures of everyone else concerns me a bit also. taken alone it's not that bad, but knowing the nature of their other videos, the message is quite clear.
@drivetwister First of all Nebuchadnezzar failed to destroy the mainland of Tyre. Saying many nations is a way of saying 'not sure exactly who's going to destroy this island, but someone will'. Oh really? Fishermen actually spread their nets over the site? Is that literally true? no it's not. Of course an island that holds a political or military significance will be fought over, leaving the island destroyed. Tyre might as well have been Iwo Jima
@DanLee8884 But it IS red, and we can plainly see that. Most things can be seen in black and white/ right and wrong perspectives. Sometimes people don't want to see the truth, and intentionally obfuscate the issue because they want to do something that is clearly wrong (to the rest of us!).
but who says "truth" is "truth" matters....many times truth isn't black and white...or red in this case... human beings have experiences that interpret what is truth...sometimes truth is unknowable...yet people claim they have the "truth"...this video would prove my point if the balloon was actually a diff color and the woman was saying it was red...
@hikari4light And that leads to the conclusion that there is a God? All I can tell from what you told me (I've done it before) is that there might or might not be a deity, omnipotent (omniscient, etc) or not.
I think its funny that technically that balloon is any color but red. As our eyes are only seeing the color in which that balloon can reflect. That balloon is absorbing all of the colors in the light spectrum but reflecting only one. It's this kind of thinking that allows people to think outside the box you are trying to put them in.
@pstood you can separate belief and truth if you are omniscient...so for humans those two things get mixed together.....I do believe there is absolute truth and it belongs to God only....
@MrLogada But that is the point, isn't it? Jesus died to cover all our sin, so what is wrong with homosexuality? Huh? Did Jesus come and die for all sins BUT homosexuality? What of those parts of the old covenant not explicitly affirmed or rejected? Sure divorce was made wrong, and eating pork ok, but what of keeping the sabbath holy? Should we read our own interpretation into what parts of the old covenant are to apply, like claiming the balloon is blue?
@charlzm Not just matter itself, but consciousness, intelligence, the wonders of our world that are so incredible...these things just proclaim their Creator! I know without Him, I would be naught. Logic can only go so far...the 'leap' isn't so much a jump, but an acceptance of His wonders and love!
Red is not a truth. It's the name of a color that someone made up. In Spanish it's rojo. To someone who is color blind, it may very well be green. However, with science we can measure the frequency of the light and it will be relatively the same every time something of relative color is measured. Science holds the truth.
@tmcca2 "No matter how much you don't believe in something, doesn't make it untrue." How come it doesn't work the other way for you? No matter how much you believe in something, doesn't make it true. Why is it more on me to disprove some belief that you can't prove in the first place.
Christians don't ignore science. Well, some might ignore certain things in science, like the dating system of rocks, or evolution theories, but Christianity is not blind. Nor is it mythology. Simple question to invoke thought: What is the authority you accept as the source of absolute truth, and what makes it true? Does it hold together logically? Do any of your thoughts or behaviors contradict any part of its reasoning?
@MrLogada "religion dosen't have to be proven" Yes! That's exactly my point....the vid is comparing something provable to something unprovable. The example you give of science changing are examples of science changing the name of something. The mass known as Pluto is still out there whether it's a planet or planetoid. The fossil remains are still the same whether called 'brontosaurus', 'seismosaurus' or 'Jenkins Minor'. And the arangement / refraction of light particles stay the same.
@griffinajg the funny thing about science really is that it's always changing. but what never changes is bible, because it's truth and truth can't change. and the most important fact in the bible is that we are sinners and that Christ died for our sins.
Too bad "truth" (aka something you have to take on faith) isn't something you can hold in your hand and quantify like a balloon. A better analogy than this video would be if the girl is telling everyone that there is a red balloon, but she cant' show it to anyone or prove that it exists. But there is a red balloon, honest!
The red balloon represents absolute truth. Many are teaching that truth is relative when it really isn't.
As she said... Truth is true, whether you believe it or not.
There is no balloon... lol
They actually broke the fourth wall. Wow. And amazing analogy. So accurate.
"It's totally purple from here!!!" Hahaha! *thumbs up*
My drama class is doing this tomorrow in chapel! i am able to do the girl with the red balloon its so awesome because the words are so true and its a fun skit to do with my friends because they are such wonderful actors! :) thank you for doing this it helps reach people who need to hear!
Plot twist: half of these people are colorblind! But they were just mad Defensive
As a colour deficient person (who can see that the balloon is red), my uncle would say that the balloon is green. He'd say this because he can't see red at all (whereas I can see red when it's clear). My uncle isn't lying. It really does look green to him. So for him, the word "green" means both green and red. In his classification system, they are one category, not two. Although truth may not change, how it is expressed can vary.
Woo Hoo! That's my aunt and uncle! This one is possibly my favorite!
haha love that statement "there is no baloon" haha
Jesus is God, sin is sin...we cannot change the truth by just our own principles and ideologies...wonderful video.
Christianity is Green, Islam is Blue, Judism is Yellow...Thank you for giving me the greatest anti-religion video ever. Good Work.
@1boy1dr You're right, science does change, constantly. Science paints a picture of the world - of it's beauty, it's complexity, and it's harmony - and that picture, by it's very nature, is never complete. Religion takes a picture painted 2000 years ago and crams the wold in to fit the picture, no matter how poorly it fits and all to often casting all of that beauty and complexity of the real world. And in that, you are also correct - religion never changes.
Signal....the point is that often truth is right infront of us, and obvious, yet people still deny it.
You can prove that it is red because color is defined as the wave length of light that the eye perceives, if everybody else is seeing different colors in that balloon there are pigment deficiencies in their eyes. The wavelength of red is around 400 nano meters, if you take this balloon to India and measure the wave length of reflected light it will be around 400, the same in Ecuador, the USA, Finland, Mars, Uranus, or any other place in the universe.
O my crazyness. That was awesome!! Very well done. May God continue to bless ya'll.
Now, by saying nothing can possibly be outside the universe, the problem of where everything originally came from arises again.
Having faith that it was always is more ludicrous than thinking God was always, and believing it just appeared is even more implausible.
To believe that a Creator existed forever would indeed contradict cause-and-effect.
However, that is assuming He is within the creation itself.
When a person makes something, say a book, they are not confined to its story, setting, or mood.
Likewise, a Creator who would have created the universe would exist outside of it, and not be bound by its rules, such as time.
And yet, when Darwin was older and looking back at his life, he commented that his entire theory could be compromised by the activities and intricacies of a single beehive.
There is no balloon! My life is full of those who say that.
funny meme
@griffinajg The real point is that saying "the nice thing about the truth is that it's always true" is a logically nonsensical statement. It's the same as saying something like "the great thing about the sky is that its always the sky" or "the neat thing about blue is that its always blue". The statement that the "great thing about the truth is that its true" belongs in a hallmark card, not as part of a logical conversation
The moral is: Only believe what you can measure with a spectroscope. And nothing invisible.
The balloon *is* red. No one will argue that because that's a truth that is easy to ascertain. And there is objective evidence to back it up (the electro-magnetic wavelength reflected off the balloon might be measured to be in the range 625 to 740 nm). Unfortunately, religion is not so easy to figure out.
it would stink if you are colour blind, or a dog, or a deep sea fish, or a mole. or if there is no light, or if the atmosphere is different. (breaking of light)
beautifully illustrates the issue though.
@MegaMsPerfect1 I agree with you to an extent, but if the person keeps on asking questions, then I don't believe that we should simply ignore them and walk away. If they're determined not to believe, then yes leave them alone, but if they seem genuinely interested (instead of simply trying to prove you wrong) then I don't think there's any reason not to keep talking to them.
'there is no balloon' xD
anyway, I think I'm gonna show this vid to my friend and family n__n
DNA is information with content. It has a 4-letter language. Whenever you see written information in a book or computer-code, it's obvious to you that someone wrote it. Check it out. It's amazing.
They should've used a spectrophotometer to measure the wavelength of the light coming off the balloon. It wouldn't tell them if they were all 'perceiving' the same color, or how to define it, but it would tell them what the sensory input was that their eyes were gathering.
Math is universal, science is testable and repeatable, and reality is true whether you believe in it or not. :)
That is the coolest brown balloon I've ever seen in my life!
In fact the more I watch this video the more it seems to present a compelling argument for rejecting religion as a life choice. It worked for Darwin.
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away ~ Philip Dick
my school is doing this skit for numerous Churches
And yet, that's assuming that one cannot use truth to establish belief. If one completely suspends all beliefs, desires, and prejudices and simply looks at the truth of the world, the sheer volume of incredible and unexplainable things would logically point to some sort of intelligent creation, which then directs attention to a Creator, whom is often referred to in religious text, namely the Bible.
We had to do this in church today - so fun and I was the crazy one that saw different colours - we had a talk then about how Jesus was around whether you believe it or not
I only see dark green and green.
lovely parable . If balloons existed while christ was on earth, i could imagine him using it to filter out the unbelievers!
The analogy only works if she was holding an invisible thing and saying it's a red balloon. Hallucinations is not evidence.
So, we're saying people who go to college and learn, are doing the wrong thing?
ohhhhhhhhh! i gotta show this to the pastor of my church and hear his opinion on this,and some friend of mine too!
Beyond GENIUS!!!
LOVE IT!
Red ballon has some weird meaning.
This video is the perfect illustration for why Hinduism is true.
Argue all you want, but the truth is the truth, no matter what anyone else believes.
If one enquires scientifically, as you have said, huge problems appear.
How did the first matter come into existence?
If one says it was always present, then other pieces of this train of thought fall apart. If the matter was always there, then our universe must not be based in cause-and-effect. And yet, something causing a certain effect to occur is exactly what scientific study accomplishes.
From this one simple problem, the logical conclusion is that Someone created the first matter.
@drivetwister Exactly. Then why is this woman KNOW that the balloon is red? Wouldn't the point then be that you should be open to ALL beliefs? So Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, Atheism would all be treated with the same respect if no one could know for sure what is true and what is not true.
Red is red. Truth is truth. God is God. No matter what "viewpoint" you look at Him from, He will always be God. It doesn't matter how we think we see Him, it matters who He is.
@frankvonfrauner I will be going into the hospital for some surgery and will be unavailable for a month or so due to rehab after an amputation, so I will not be able to go on with this back and forth. I have enjoyed the conversation and perhaps we will pick it up at another time. In the mean time, I will be praying for you.
@charlzm So, then the balloon holder isn't incorrect because she sees it as Red. If then, the color is subjective, then arguing over the color of the balloon is futile, because then people will always see differently.
@AHarmlessBlackMan any truth can be labeled as unsound if you don't want it to be sound. the question is, who ultimately gets to decide what is and isn't sound?
I know this will seem really boring and all.... but "truly" that balloon is not red. Red is a colour. Colour is caused by the broad spectrum of "white" light - that is light containing all the different frequencys that make the different colours - being absorbed by the balloon except for the range that bounces off the balloon. That range just happens to be recieved by my eyes in a way that I have been taught to call red.
The balloon is not on its own red.
ah i get it, im lactose intollerant so i hav to lay off the milk.
thanks gang
To pick up a single marked coin on his first pick than for Jesus to fulfill all the prophecies by chance?
This skit could have been made by a follower from any religion. Everyone thinks that they are seeing the "red balloon" and everyone else is seeing it incorrectly.
Do we look at a great machine, with all it's parts moving in prefect unison, perfect harmony, perfect symmetry, and say that it made itself? Of course not, that'd be ridiculous. I look at our solar system. We live on a planet the perfect distance away from the sun to sustain life, and that life is able to take the nutrients that sun provides us and live. Other creatures will eat these plants, and live, and so on and so on. It all screams "intelligent design!"
@frankvonfrauner "Slavery" in the Bible that was allowed under God's law was not the same thing as we think of for slavery today. "Slaves" had rights and protection under the law. There were not allowed to be mistreated. They were compensated. There were slaves for limited periods of time unless the "slave" decided at the end of his service to continue for life. I could go on with the differences, but what was allowed (not promoted) under the law had very little resemblance to slavery today.
more ex.: Charles Babbage - creator of the computer; James Clerk Maxwell - summarized all electricity, magnetism and optics to a few equations that still form the basis of electromagnetic theory; Louis Pasteur ( everybody knows him!). Gregor Mendel ( genetics); Stephen Hales; Isaac Newton; Nicolaus Steno; Johannes Kepler; Michael Faraday; Georges Cuwler; Alberto Magno; Jean Baptiste Carnoy; Nicolas de Cusa; Carolus Linnaeus; Robert Boyle; Charles Bell ... and so on.
i made computer
Hardly a 'veil over the temple' moment though was it. The point I'm making is that if you are in any way serious about establishing 'the truth', you have to suspend belief, not engage in it. Thats why its paradoxical to find this point presented as part of a religious sketch.
@DanLee8884 Absolute Truth exists. Period. That is the statement made in this video. Human beings (and other beings such as intelligent animals) have experiences that interpret the experience and create OPINION or BELIEF. It is essential that truth not be confused with belief. There is no "My Truth / Your Truth". Absolute truth is and always will be. There is and always will be "My Belief / Your Belief". The idea [cont'd]
@DanLee8884 You are right about some truth being unknowable, but we are in constant pursuit of it. However, we live in a concrete world where it doesn't matter what people's experiences are, just because my experience is different than others doesn't make my "version" right or wrong. Truth IS black and white, perceptions do not mean that person's "truth" of a particular subject make the order of the universe shape to that view. Truth IS and cannot be compromised just because I think it will.
@drivetwister then why are there planets that aren't in perfect natural equilibrium like earth is? did the intelligent designer just make those for fun?
@horngal88 I think its more complicated that...I think its kind of funny that we Protestant Christians argue against the whole I believe/you believe thing cuz to me it seems like the Reformation was all about how everyone one could interpret the scriptures....I mean the Catholic Church made it about one interpretation...then protestants kind of opened the pandora's box with their different interpretations....then denominations formed all over the place....
@ZomusPrime - How did the first matter come into existence? We don't know for certain. Maybe we can't ever figure it out. But I fail to follow the leap of logic that this proves an entity we call "God" made everything.
It is a pity that they stopped producing content, I learned as much about God as these guys, I would like to know what happened to each one.
The funny thing about gods is that they're not true, whether you believe in them or not.
@Shachah223 - Truth is in the eye of the beholder, not the balloon holder.
It's not so much that truth is God's... but that God IS truth. He is the gold standard by which we measure truth. And his truth is self-evident. This video focuses on that simple fact. Truth is truth, no matter what you say about it.
this is such a good one. It teaches me some thing
That strikes me as a ridiculous thing to say - this line is often trotted out by those of a religious inclination. I agree that intelligence appears as a natural part of existence but to conjure up the image of some benevolent old gentleman beavering away in his cosmic workshop just seems plain daft.
How I miss OTB
@RetartedWaffles it's more broader than that, it applies to any kind of indoctrination or misinformation. Point being: be critical, make questions, if someone presents you new evidence, take the time to consider it.
Atheist says: I don't believe in God!
Christian says: Really, well I don't believe in bullets. Does my belief negate reality?
Atheist says: God just doesn't exist so his laws and your definition of Hell doesn't apply to me.
Christian says: Trucks don't exist, therefore if I stand in the middle of this highway, this so-called Truck coming towards me can't harm me cause this is not my definition of a truck and it doesn't apply to me!?
But if one accepts intelligence as a key and natural part of life, yet denies a Creator, then to what end does that acceptance go?
Intelligence cannot exist without some being to hold it.
To believe that would be more ridiculous than what your propose to be so.
@drivetwister I just read that and all of the 'prophecy' was simply coincidental. There is no mention of names, no mention of date, and no mention what weapons that are used. I can make a 'prophecy' too: Some day, America will experience a serious national tragedy, one that changes our lives.
There, if some great tragedy DOES happen I've just predicted it with the same amount of detail as Ezekiel 26:1-14.
"This video is the perfect illustration for why Hinduism is true.
Argue all you want, but the truth is the truth, no matter what anyone else believes." -- filorps, 1 day ago. Never forget the truth.
Hinduism is a lie
JESUS IS TRUTH!!
JOHN 1:1
But I'm not claiming it to be the arbiter of truth. Science isn't perfect, and has never claimed to be perfect. But it's better than any previous method for determining what is likely to be true.
And this is exactly how I feel as an atheist...
That's how we feel as Christian's. The atheists are the ones saying the balloon is green.
@frankvonfrauner Me too:) Thanks. He comes highly recommended. Thanks for your kind thoughts.
@db22170 I agree...however I believe that only God knows what is absolute truth...humans get into trouble when they say what they believe is absolute truth....that's why I think that no matter how sure we are about something, we MUST always have our minds and ears open...there is nothing wrong with hearing people out....just because we listen to the other side doesn't mean we agree with them or anything....
@AHarmlessBlackMan You obviously didn't read too far into it, because they go into a great amount of detail. "Nebuchadnezzar will destroy the mainland of Tyre" (Ezekiel 26:8), Many nations against Tyre (Ezekiel 26:3), Make her a bare rock; flat like the top of a rock (Ezekiel 26:4), Fishermen will spread their nets over the site (Ezekiel 26:5), Throw the debris into the water (Ezekiel 26:12), Never be rebuilt (Ezekiel 26:14), Never be found again (Ezekiel 26:21).
@DanLee8884 agreed, i think it would have been a really poignant video if the balloon was a different color from all of their interpretations. by declaring that one of the people is right, they narrow the scope of the video significantly.
reinforcing the faith of "red" people by painting belittling caricatures of everyone else concerns me a bit also. taken alone it's not that bad, but knowing the nature of their other videos, the message is quite clear.
@drivetwister First of all Nebuchadnezzar failed to destroy the mainland of Tyre. Saying many nations is a way of saying 'not sure exactly who's going to destroy this island, but someone will'. Oh really? Fishermen actually spread their nets over the site? Is that literally true? no it's not.
Of course an island that holds a political or military significance will be fought over, leaving the island destroyed. Tyre might as well have been Iwo Jima
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Blew my mind away!!!
@DanLee8884
But it IS red, and we can plainly see that. Most things can be seen in black and white/ right and wrong perspectives. Sometimes people don't want to see the truth, and intentionally obfuscate the issue because they want to do something that is clearly wrong (to the rest of us!).
I think it would be more of an analogy than an exegesis...
but who says "truth" is "truth" matters....many times truth isn't black and white...or red in this case... human beings have experiences that interpret what is truth...sometimes truth is unknowable...yet people claim they have the "truth"...this video would prove my point if the balloon was actually a diff color and the woman was saying it was red...
Who wrote the code?
@hikari4light And that leads to the conclusion that there is a God? All I can tell from what you told me (I've done it before) is that there might or might not be a deity, omnipotent (omniscient, etc) or not.
I think its funny that technically that balloon is any color but red. As our eyes are only seeing the color in which that balloon can reflect. That balloon is absorbing all of the colors in the light spectrum but reflecting only one.
It's this kind of thinking that allows people to think outside the box you are trying to put them in.
@pstood you can separate belief and truth if you are omniscient...so for humans those two things get mixed together.....I do believe there is absolute truth and it belongs to God only....
@MrLogada But that is the point, isn't it? Jesus died to cover all our sin, so what is wrong with homosexuality? Huh? Did Jesus come and die for all sins BUT homosexuality? What of those parts of the old covenant not explicitly affirmed or rejected? Sure divorce was made wrong, and eating pork ok, but what of keeping the sabbath holy? Should we read our own interpretation into what parts of the old covenant are to apply, like claiming the balloon is blue?
I wish the Christians in this video would apply this same logic to their own silly beliefs.
that's football ball there is no balloon
@charlzm Not just matter itself, but consciousness, intelligence, the wonders of our world that are so incredible...these things just proclaim their Creator! I know without Him, I would be naught. Logic can only go so far...the 'leap' isn't so much a jump, but an acceptance of His wonders and love!
Red is not a truth. It's the name of a color that someone made up. In Spanish it's rojo. To someone who is color blind, it may very well be green. However, with science we can measure the frequency of the light and it will be relatively the same every time something of relative color is measured. Science holds the truth.
@tmcca2 "No matter how much you don't believe in something, doesn't make it untrue." How come it doesn't work the other way for you? No matter how much you believe in something, doesn't make it true. Why is it more on me to disprove some belief that you can't prove in the first place.
Should've asked the balloon first, no? heheh
Christians don't ignore science. Well, some might ignore certain things in science, like the dating system of rocks, or evolution theories, but Christianity is not blind. Nor is it mythology. Simple question to invoke thought: What is the authority you accept as the source of absolute truth, and what makes it true? Does it hold together logically? Do any of your thoughts or behaviors contradict any part of its reasoning?
@MrLogada
"religion dosen't have to be proven" Yes! That's exactly my point....the vid is comparing something provable to something unprovable.
The example you give of science changing are examples of science changing the name of something. The mass known as Pluto is still out there whether it's a planet or planetoid. The fossil remains are still the same whether called 'brontosaurus', 'seismosaurus' or 'Jenkins Minor'. And the arangement / refraction of light particles stay the same.
@griffinajg the funny thing about science really is that it's always changing. but what never changes is bible, because it's truth and truth can't change. and the most important fact in the bible is that we are sinners and that Christ died for our sins.
Too bad "truth" (aka something you have to take on faith) isn't something you can hold in your hand and quantify like a balloon. A better analogy than this video would be if the girl is telling everyone that there is a red balloon, but she cant' show it to anyone or prove that it exists. But there is a red balloon, honest!