Starfield Is Getting Review Bombed, Again But Is It Deserved This Time ?
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Starfield Is Getting Review Bombed, Again But Is It Deserved This Time ?
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While I agree that the Vulture Bounty mission is overpriced for its content (for 7 dollars it should be multiple missions, unique player home ship, stuff, etc..), and having achievements disabled for non BGS mods sucks (just get the Baka achievement enabler mod), those are still flimsy reasons for review bombing the game. This stuff is optional, not the base game, so I'm thinking its just the Starfield/BGS haters and trolls acting up. If one enjoys the game, great. If not ,play another game.
I wouldn't mind micro transactions if they were indeed micro. $7 for 1 quest is steep and will ensure that probably more than 50% of players don't purchase it.
I get why people are angry especially for this Bounty Hunter one. I also don’t like paying for mods but I also don’t mind paying for mods from creators I like soooo yea. I hate the system but will use it for the creator… I think I’m just the target demographic in this case.
Also let’s be real here and say our favorite mod creator didn’t use CC and instead decided to upload it on to Patreon, it would likely be a 5 dollar mod there too but we won’t bat a eye at that.
Now the one complaint I do have is these damn virtual dollars I’ll have to pay 10 bucks to get one 5 dollar mod. Now that is the scummy part we should be angy about.
I would have paid for a bounty hunter expansion. Instead they want me to pay $10 PER mission. So BS man
I have no problem with modders selling their mods. I have a BIG problem with BGS, themselves, asking us for MORE money for THEIR content when they haven't even released the DLC we all paid $100 for yet and many in the playerbase think the base game is still unfinished. They should have laundered their reputation and the games reputation before selling anyone macrotransactions. They've burnt any goodwill they were starting to build for the game.
I’m tired of “gamers” complaining about completely optional content. That’s like buying a car and complaining that all the extra features costs extra. If you don’t want to pay for that content then just don’t pay for it. Don’t piss and moan like a child that it even exists.
Unfortunately asking that to happen is like asking the sky to not be night time it's gonna happen again, and again , and agin
I’m happy I can come to the comments and find at least 1 competent person in here. 😂
They provide an expanded faction, HQ hangout/building, scanner upgrade, new currency for effectively free Legendary gear, a full mission/space station, higher value mission board, unique spacesuit, 2 unique cutter/weapons, all for free, right?
Then people are offended they put a second part, a nice gun and some clothing behind a cheap paywall?
It's a bargain. People will throw away $7 on a couple energy drinks (they'll just piss away later).
@@EchoPlaynomics they ignore all the pros and just see the negative side of things if bGs was to only put in the HQ and the mission I would understand them being pissed off but they gave us a free HQ with everything you said which I'm no expert in pricing but this update alone could easily be 30 to 40 dollars and they gave it to us for free
@@alexpena4091 I might not have gone that high (value in $), but I can absolutely see the value at 2x the DLC price without breaking a marketing sweat.
Putting it all behind a paywall would have also silenced those that pretend 'part 1' has no value.
If that's the answer Bethesda chooses going forward, it will be because of complaints.
Imagine that, "We gave everyone something for free, but OK if you don't like that we'll just wall it off next time and every one pays." :)
:)
Players shouldn't whine about achievements being disabled by mods when you can just install a mod to reenable them.
Can't see many people paying for that one quest and it is a shitty way to do it. They could have gone about it better and hopefully will be forced to pay for their mistake and change it.
Cosmetics I have no problem paying for but not game play unless its dlc or a mini dlc.
I've been thoroughly enjoying this game. I think it keeps getting better with the updates and fixes that we've seen so far. People are going to deprive themselves of a very enjoyable gaming experience because they want to be on the side of popular opinions.
I don't agree with review bombing. Its easily misused for counter productive purposes. - I simply don't bother with content mods that aren't tagged "achievement friendly" for the time being.
The creations system is important to this games continued success, and the success of creations content - if people aren't using it, that says more than "attacking the game". Which can be provoked for ulterior motives other than whatever is stated. - However using it, but having a problem with it, and review bombing - To me that seems counter-intuitively trying to have your cake and eat it.
The realists perspective on anything is, "where too many conflicting interests exist, there are no solutions, only compromises", but the thing about 'compromises', is theres plenty of room for improvement, for all concerns, as long as they remain invested.
Given the reasons generally offered for review bombing, often makes me wonder whether those people are being genuine.
Absolutely agree that locking the second quest of a brand new faction behind a paywall sucks - especially when you consider how long we have waited for fixes in the main game. Would have left a better taste, maybe, if they had made the Trackers Alliance questing part of the DLC, or just left it as part of mission board quests. As it stands, it just stinks of baiting a hook to capture the equivalent of micro transactions. Will just make it easier for me to move on to the Elden Ring DLC dropping next week.
Gamers simultaneously want games supported for a decade after release but don't want to pay anyone to make the content
👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿This!!!! They sound like whiny douchebags. People deserve to be paid for their time. Or just make the mods yourself. It's real simple.
The problem is that the basic game is left wanting. People are willing to pay, not to be scammed.
Have you played No Man’s Sky? How much extra did you have to pay for almost decade of upgrades?
And it's not just about the quest being too expensive, it's the idea that it shows what we can expect from Creations going forward. I think people have high hopes for Ceations, but when they feel nickel-and-dimed right away it leaves a bad taste. I personally wouldn't review bomb the game for it, but that's where we are.
its not only the 7$ mission. Its the lack of moderation of the other creation. We have a 2$ gun that breaks sound. We have a 1$ Stat Change on a single gun, that just adds 20 health. This either broken or lazy mod design should be reported....but we dont have a report function.
Then the issue is with the pricing. 10$ for a single new Hab for the ship, or 5$ for several habs with the Crimson Fleet theme.
5$ for a noodle stand or a new vendor or 5$ for a complete new space mining faction plus station management or a new companion with over 1200 voice lines.
This is a shitshow.
I got the free credits and didn't use them for a 40 minute quest. I did enjoy the first free one. 7 bucks should get you a few hours play. I did find a few good quality of life free mods and will donate to the author's.
Aren’t the authors just Bethesda employees anyway?
Game has room for a lot more content, and we did not got almost anything aside from 2 3 major faction quests. All other side missions are completely unworthy. If they want to make this game as they said "to be played many years" it needs a lot more content.
I did get the starsim.
Only issue I have with bethesdas outpost items is the outpost itself doesn't really have shit to begin with not when compared to F4 though i do have DLC too so who knows.
I eatched a stream yesterday from Sista Citizen and she explained the whole process of downloading a mod lets say from Nexus Mods the whole 30 minutes or 45 i lost track of time just to download one mod and even than you best hope nothing breaks inside the mod or it doesnt break the game mods in the creation kit are as easy as you like this mod, click download and done so i really dont see why so many ppl are complaining
Also as someone here said if you dont want to pay than dont
Like Sista Citizen said Bethesda doesnt care if you cheat or use mods they just want you to have fun your way
Want to spawn in a billion creds go ahead they dont care plus unlike Nexus Mods when starfield is in need of an update the game will automatically update the mods as well no need to go through the process of deleting a mod entirely to go through thebsame 45 minute headache
I’ve noticed if it’s got the Bethesda logo it will not deactivate achievements. You do have to restart the game when you activate the mods. The game won’t to it like fallout 4 or Skyrim did.
I took some time away from the game and just came back and I’m enjoying my time. SS looks a little creepy in the way morrowind looked creepy in an alien way.
$7 for a single mission is really overpriced. That's more than half the price of some really good and in-depth indie games. If it was a once-off payment with more missions to follow it would be perfectly reasonable. Modders should get paid though so good one on Bethesday.
To hell with Bethesda. They went full Ubisoft with this creation club BS. Glad I added them to my blacklist in 2018
If they're on your "blacklist" and have been since 2018,then why are you even commenting or complaining about a game and features that you shouldn't own,play or have anything to complain about?
Your comment makes no sense and amounts to nothing other than crybabying and/or lying in your original statement. If you have them blacklisted then you have absolutely NOTHING to complain,cry about or say on the matter.
Exactly. It shouldn't even be in his RUclips algorithms to see. 😂😂😂 They are such crybabies.
@MzShaybutta he probably complains about other shit he doesn't own or has blacklisted. Hell,I bet his feelings get hurt over everything... I'll stop there. 😆 🤣 😂
Dunno, but I'm kinda angry at the ragetubers who originally turned me off the game. It really is kinda good. It obviously could have been great, but at least it works unlike Star Scam
This particular drab 'loading screen simulator' was intentionally released as a minimum viable product. I'm not even prepared to buy the base game, nevermind any dlc or paid mods.
The trackers aren’t new they just got an expansion quest.
$7.00 per mission price structure starting with the vulture mission. This is the reason for the season.
It should have been three bounty missions and working Brig Habs.
If those come for free in future updates, I will be fine with. It seems like those were intended features that were never completed.
On Nexusmods there is a mod with working brig habs. (It seems like this function was just cut before the release.) And you get an additional bounty, when you turn in a criminal alive. However you have to shoot him with an EM weapon to take him to your brig, he won't surrender as in the official Bethesda tracker quests.
I have zero interest in paid mods and I expect that the greater number of players will be the same. Hopefully BGS learn to stop burning bridges with the fans. There is only so much they'll except.
However this is what I've grown to expect, just another crap move by BGS, which has only got worse since MS bought them. Likely in a few years BGS will have provided just enough content and fixes that mod creators start to take it more seriously and we will have a lively community that actually fix Starfield, just like Skyrim, and keep the game alive, which BGS can cash in on.
That dumb ass tracker were every bounty spawns in. I've got 8 bounties running around for 2 in game days with roach following around and is stuck with him until I find this stupid bounty
Review bombing is never deserved. (Redacted)* That is a scapegoat term used to try and negate negative criticism. Real review bombing is downvoting something simply just to do it.
Starfield was heavily review bombed by chinese tencent trolls (for bg3), sony ponies, star citizen ufo investors and general rªcists
@@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo You are probably right. I will fix my comment to reflect your input.
Hold on. I mean. I know we're all sophisticated guys. The world is a mess. The world is as angry as it gets. What? You think this is gonna cause a little more anger? The world is an angry place.
Ok…weird point
Name a AAA game that hasn’t gotten review bombed in the past 2 years.. toxic culture, people need to realize if they’re not having fun in any game, then maybe they just don’t like video games.
How dare people who paid $70 for a game leave a review for it on steam!
@@danhensley reviews being weaponized is where I have a problem, the fact that a term like “review bombing” exists makes my point.
“A review bomb is an Internet phenomenon in which a large number of people or a few people with multiple accounts post negative user reviews online in an attempt to harm the sales or popularity of a product, a service, or a business.”
@@ericcicale5613 You're forgetting that "review bombing" does not apply to what's actually happening. It's being used as a clickbait term when this is about steam reviews. Steam requires you to own the game in your library to review it. Every reviewer paid $70-99 to post their Starfield Review. Additionally, if you look through the reviews, avg. playtime is 100hrs for these reviewers.
Exactly toxic gaming culture. Loving starfield and it's success. Most of these youtuber/ Podcasters don't even play video games just upload white rage videos for likes
@@ericcicale5613really Noone cares about steam reviews.
Could the 1st run of creations been all free to say thank's to those who have stuck with the game absolutely yes & could they bring a 50/50 mix of free & good value paid mods to creations again yes, are they greedy with the initial batch umm yes though this seems par for the course now & although a backlash may get a few naff free mods from them to say that overused line "We've heard you" this is the way of things with this industry as is review bombing nowadays though people seem to do this rather than exercise the old principle of......just not buying it, if paid mods do not sell well it'll be cheaper or maybe even free in the future so play them at their own game because they're not going away folks but they probably have a shelf life when more mods start to come out to eclipse them in the future.
Agreed clearly folkreview bombing them without thinking "what if I just choose a mod that's free" is spreading like wildfire. Now in Helldivers we did review bombing when Sony was forcing us to make PSN accounts and of which 180 countries are banned from making a PSN account and the Helldivers won that so if used appropriately review bombing could be helpful but over it's just complainers wanting to be heard
If yall would go downstairs in game theres a mission board just do those if you want to bounty hunt and stop complaining its not one mission its an entire line of randomly generated missions and the main questline is paid how else do you think they will make money back
I really love how we have one of each kind of bounty one just dead , another alive (accidentally killed the target instead of lights out ) and one that is more of a dungeon boss
It's always deserved when it comes to this game
Wasn’t the vulture made by 1 person
Also seriously do you really prefer Bethesda randomly update starfield for 1 small mission and making people made there mods broke like fallout/Skyrim everytime they updated creation club?
Not that ppl are forced to pay. Respect mod authors, they have all the right to make their mods payable.
Not sure why choices seems to upset so many people. If you don’t want (me) then don’t pay for it. If you do that’s perfectly fine. Eventually, if you pay attention to history, all these paid mods will be free at some point so again why are people upset?
It is not whether you want to buy it, people have a problem with this because let's be real here it is greedy as fuck. Imagine if the dark brotherhood assassination quests from Elder Scrolls where individually locked behind a pay wall, I understand what you mean with these mods will become free but they are not yet and they know people will buy into it enough to justify doing this over and over again. This content should be free, it is crazy that quests as simple a as a bounty are now all the sudden considered worth paying money for. We should pay attention to history, I fully agree so let's look at Bethesda's track record over the last decades, they keep pushing micro transactions, from horse armor to the creation club, every new title they released they grew more greedy, they kept pushing the boundaries of what they could get away with and I promise you it is unlikely that they will stop doing this. Now I ask you is not insanely depressing that Bethesda has become like this? The community keeps pushing back and yet they keep coming back with it, so yes you can choose not to buy it but the problem is that it is there to begin with.
@@zombiepinda I get if you don’t want to pay, I’ve never paid for mods nor will I ever do that. Problem for me is you’re equating two different things as the same by extension. Trackers quest is made by a mod author not Bethesda and your issue is with them. Bethesda itself is a for profit business. It’s not a charity. Money is what keeps them working on updates and new games and employing thousands of people and the lights on. Name one other AAA company that listens to their customer base more than Bethesda. Just because you want something one way doesn’t mean 20 others in front of you don’t want something different so how do you please everyone? Ever? Again I come back to the fact it’s a choice per individual. It’s not mandatory.
@@AzViking69 Sorry where do you get this information from that the trackers alliance is made by a mod author? I cannot find anything about this online, nor does the announcement imply this information? I'd love to be proven wrong though. Aside from this you cannot argue to me in good faith that a company has to milk every little bit of their game in order to stay economically stable, if a company does have to resort to doing this practice and it is not out of greed I'd argue they should get a economic advisor because something must be seriously wrong there. I never said the purchase was mandatory I explained the sentiment of the outrage, is review bombing the correct response, why would it not be, it has drawn attention of the devs and it is the most effective way to get them to listen in other cases that's why it happens. Also I never argued that mod author's paywalling their mods is a problem, i argued from the perspective that the trackers alliance is made by Bethesda directly which I still think it since I cannot find anything that says otherwise. Give me an example btw of Bethesda ever listening to us directly, because even Diablo 4's dev team listens better to feedback than they do.
@@AzViking69 The June update video say "we are introducing a new mission structure with the tracker's alliance" and "we are periodically releasing new missions to the trackers alliance board" so where did you get the information from that the tracker quests are not made by Bethesda? Seems pretty clear that it is in fact Bethesda doing this so my argument is still valid. But you dont have to buy them is a weak argument, it is not the fact that am buying them which am not, it is the fact they are doing it which is disgusting to me.
@@zombiepinda as far as I’ve known the creation club mods are made by mod authors and sponsored by Bethesda. This could be that exception but can’t honestly say either way. Yet open to being wrong. And again, you’re talking about a business. Not a charity or a public trust were everyone gets an input. And yet again it comes down to a choice you have, I have, we all have. If enough people aren’t buying then it’s not cost effective and goes away as history has shown it has before. Simple. No one has to get all worked up over a business acting like a business. With all the issue we face in todays world this should never be a priority in anyone’s life. We should be grateful to live in this small sliver of time of all humanity that gets to actually enjoy video games, instead of tearing down trying building up.
This update has re ignited my love for the game
The Vulture mission is essentially there just to get his sniper rifle. The quest itself is quite forgettable and nowhere near the quality of the first one.
Please for the love of god SOMEONE add in somw form of power armor
yes
It's just another form of micro transactions
It's so weird how these high budget companies, who litterally make the biggest games ever, think that people just want more content lol
All of the review bombing for this game is justified. What a garbage game after a decade development and countless decades in game development as a company.
Truly pathetic
It's pissed me off
Oh no a $10000 space ship?!?! Oh wait, whiners review bombing
Bethesda fans are as whiny as Star Wars fans.
This is not a game but store
Loads and loads of rip off content that's all it is ! I call it the suckers extras😂😂😂.
Speak with your wallet.
This game is poop
Anyone who is reviewing starifeilds creations section as negative isn't a true fan
True fans know every few mods are paid
The majority are free and always better than the paid mods