It still baffles me that no companies have acquired the ability to do FEMTO unlocks in the US. The shipping eats up so much of the price of the unlock it’s ridiculous.
Apparently Femto got burned the last time they loosened the reigns on their tuning abilities and watched the industry profit from their hard work without any compensation. They aren’t making that mistake again so they are unrelenting in maintaining their IP.
It's crazy how long this has been out and nobody besides FEMTO has been able to reverse engineer what they've done. The A90 Supra community is in the same boat. Nobody is trying to pay thousands of dollars for an unlock on an ECU that provides 0 power and you still have to pay for a tune after.
I like the extra explanation on where all the clips are and exactly how each one works. It's these little details that prevent a first timer from breaking a cheap plastic clip that could need a very expensive fix.
It should be noted that mod would void any warranty claim to BMW and even if you go back to stock they still know that you flashed it. People should know before cry 😅
Amazing you uploaded this video right as I started looking into unlocks. Thank you so much for the videos on the turbo inlet and air intake for the f30 helped me do the job with ease.
If BMW is like any other manufacturer they look at key turns and successful startups. They also have ways to tell you’re using a piggyback. So if you use this stuff just know it’s a risk they may deny the repair.
I agree, if im not mistaken every dme is programed and licensed to your vehicle with vin.They'll know based on that alone plus different serial numbers for the dme's in there system.@@98ws6m6cvert
Nice vid. I just mailed my ecu to femto; your tutorials are amazing. Hey Bryan if you ever need a g82 MT for one of you videos let me know, I’m in NJ not too far from your shop.
I don't understand how people do this. I have a G87 but there is no way I can compromise my warranty. Same issue with an exhaust. I also lease which is another problem I guess. If something expensive breaks and they tell me they won't cover it because I played with the dme and I'm stuck with a multi thousand dollar bill, I would lose it. It also sucks that when you bring it in, they will relock it. I guess tuning isn't for every body. Makes me sad though because I want to so badly
If you have to make a warranty claim the dealer obviously will connect and do a check. They will know for sure if you flashed it, no possibility to escape and so no more warranty. Period.
As long as you are transparent with your dealer you won't have any issue's after all BMW adheres to the Magnuson-Moss Act basically stating BMW has to honor your warranty and prove where and how the tune caused some sort of failure..... The key is to be transparent first, not after the fact... The dealer knows 30%-50% will tune their cars/suvs so it's better to work with them....
when you get your BMW tuned all the BMWs I have had, had horsepower and torque gauges on the radio screen do those still work after the tune if so, are they still accurate at least for the torque?
Kies lists it on their website for each tune, a percentage gain in hp and tq but im not sure they have a tune for MINIs after 2019. My brother has a Countryman S so ive done a little research.
Good afternoon, I have a 2022 BMW M440I xdrive G26 model and I liked to get it tuned. I just purchase a VRSF catless downpipe but I was told that I need it to unlock my ecu to avoid an engine light, can you guys help me with this. I saw your video on you RUclips but I'm confused about my options since I only want to install a catless downpipe and do a stage 1 or 2 tuned. Your input would be much appreciated.
If you go with an AARP catted dp you can avoid the CEL or there is also spacers that sometimes work with other dps to avoid the CEL. If you choose to go catless you will need to send your ECU abroad and get it unlocked to code out the CEL.
Just play around with them, you'll figure it out pretty quick. The car will not let you hurt it, even in manual mode. Current gen BMW M cars are actually idiot proof because it tells you right in the gauge cluster when you need to shift.
I don’t want to sound like a newb but does this void warranty? Ive been struggling on thinking what can I and cant i do to my g82 to be better. Id love to get more hp and burbles but obviously without voiding warranty.
I have a 440i when I flash it do I still need to wear my seatbelt during the flash cause I see old bootmod videos and the say the seatbelt needs to be plugged in.
Is each unlock specific to different models? 2020 M340i can i do it with the obd2 or do i have to send my dme to kies? Very much regret getting that latest update -.-
Is it normal it doesn’t get any connection on bm3 ? I did not buy the license yet can it be the reason why there’s no connection ? But I checked with MHD and it did read my dme and needs a femto unlock. Guys HELP!!
Try putting the wifi adapter in manual mode in settings to allow BootMod3 to connect. Reach out to our team at INFO@KIES.COM and our team can assist you further 💪
@@KiesMotorsports i already set it up manually but I don’t get anything, also tried disconnecting the battery in the trunk and re do it but still nothing…
everyone recommands it but i hear mixed stories from yeah even stock can crack it to people running 600+ without one so. my guess is better to do it and not worry about it. it is expensive
@@KiesMotorsports definitely BM3 FTW! I questioned it because when I got a custom tune the tuner advised me go with MHD but I didn't know if I would have had to perform the bench unlock once again
I though mission or whatever tf their name is got the solution to odb flash 2021+ cars they been saything stay tuned since march I guess they are just lying.
It still baffles me that no companies have acquired the ability to do FEMTO unlocks in the US. The shipping eats up so much of the price of the unlock it’s ridiculous.
Yup, it's crazy. I have no idea why a domestic tuner doesn't want to do it. I have no idea why ProTuningFreaks ALSO won't even try. Why...???
They probably aren’t willing to give up the secret on how it’s done. If they are the only ones that means they can charge however much they want
Apparently Femto got burned the last time they loosened the reigns on their tuning abilities and watched the industry profit from their hard work without any compensation. They aren’t making that mistake again so they are unrelenting in maintaining their IP.
They can avoid EPA regulations and fines by not being in the USA. Look up what happened to most of the diesel tuners…millions of dollars in fines.
If you get an issue with your g80 & you take it to a bmw service centre.They can tell if you have tuned the car & it'll void your warranty
Clicked fast as I thought you'd found a way to get around sending out the DME for the G80. Hope we can get a better process than this soon.
Same. Bummed.
Facts
It's crazy how long this has been out and nobody besides FEMTO has been able to reverse engineer what they've done. The A90 Supra community is in the same boat. Nobody is trying to pay thousands of dollars for an unlock on an ECU that provides 0 power and you still have to pay for a tune after.
The detail you put in your videos is like no other channel. UK owner here, thanks for the effort you put into these.
I like the extra explanation on where all the clips are and exactly how each one works. It's these little details that prevent a first timer from breaking a cheap plastic clip that could need a very expensive fix.
how has no American company figured out how to unlock the ECU, honestly sad
Exactly
It should be noted that mod would void any warranty claim to BMW and even if you go back to stock they still know that you flashed it. People should know before cry 😅
If you put a JB4 the dealer will know the turbos have been put on. If you want power you gotta pay to play. Alternatively you can buy another dme
You guys are putting out such high quality content. Well done!
Amazing you uploaded this video right as I started looking into unlocks. Thank you so much for the videos on the turbo inlet and air intake for the f30 helped me do the job with ease.
My suggestion, buy a separate DME and tune that one. When going to service, put back the original one.
If BMW is like any other manufacturer they look at key turns and successful startups. They also have ways to tell you’re using a piggyback. So if you use this stuff just know it’s a risk they may deny the repair.
I agree, if im not mistaken every dme is programed and licensed to your vehicle with vin.They'll know based on that alone plus different serial numbers for the dme's in there system.@@98ws6m6cvert
Nice vid. I just mailed my ecu to femto; your tutorials are amazing. Hey Bryan if you ever need a g82 MT for one of you videos let me know, I’m in NJ not too far from your shop.
I don't understand how people do this. I have a G87 but there is no way I can compromise my warranty. Same issue with an exhaust. I also lease which is another problem I guess. If something expensive breaks and they tell me they won't cover it because I played with the dme and I'm stuck with a multi thousand dollar bill, I would lose it. It also sucks that when you bring it in, they will relock it. I guess tuning isn't for every body. Makes me sad though because I want to so badly
Just get a cloned dme , that would be the best option tbh
How much are you paying on your M2 lease?
Glad that you recovered your car brother 🫡
Will the dme unlock with using mhd as well?
Is there ever going to be a Femto option state side. Can’t really be without a car for 2 weeks
You should do a video on how to install port injection kit on g20 or g80 man!
Good stuff!!!
Considering the over the air updates through BMW, wont they be able to tell the car has been tuned? just thinking warranty voiding potential
As of now, they need to hook ista up at the dealer
If you have to make a warranty claim the dealer obviously will connect and do a check. They will know for sure if you flashed it, no possibility to escape and so no more warranty. Period.
Of course its gonna void the warranty
As long as you are transparent with your dealer you won't have any issue's after all BMW adheres to the Magnuson-Moss Act basically stating BMW has to honor your warranty and prove where and how the tune caused some sort of failure..... The key is to be transparent first, not after the fact... The dealer knows 30%-50% will tune their cars/suvs so it's better to work with them....
yes@@DiiAndre
Will definitely be doing this for my M4
you got 400 bucks layin around??
@@noobyboypro8658my guy has an m4, has much more than 400 laying around 😂
@@noobyboypro8658 If he can afford a M4, 400 "bucks" is peanuts.
It’s not a m if it not tuned that’s how I feel about it 😂😂😂
@@noobyboypro8658yea lol
when i bought my f80 comp new, the dme was locked then too, so it shouldn't be long before someone like bm3 unlocks via obd
Congrats! I wish their PC app what that easy and more intuitive.
Their PC app is as easy as it gets. What's the problem?
when you get your BMW tuned all the BMWs I have had, had horsepower and torque gauges on the radio screen do those still work after the tune if so, are they still accurate at least for the torque?
They still work but they’re not accurate. I’m on BM3 e50 on my m340i and it says I get 520hp and 520tq. Well I dynod my car and I get 590hp and 590tq
Yes you can also make them go to higher numbers
They will work but peak out once you reach the limit.
You should show the increase for each engine. I have a JCW f60 2023 a b48 engine. How much increasing power before I purchase?
Kies lists it on their website for each tune, a percentage gain in hp and tq but im not sure they have a tune for MINIs after 2019. My brother has a Countryman S so ive done a little research.
After an unlock.....whats the potential AWHP on a 2021 AWD G80 M3......if you do a custom full dyno tune on E85? Or whatever E mix it can handle.
After the Femto unlock, can I still go to the dealership to do maintenance?
No, if you go to the dealership to get work done they will lock your ECU again.
@@convella that is good to know! Thanks
Wont an over the air update reset the dme? That's my biggest fear.
yes u need to turn off updates for the car
How exactly did you unlock it if shipping your DME Europe is the only current solution
thats exactly how....
Still only for the Gen 1 B58 Models.. This is so very frustrating.
The reason why BMWs sell so well is because they respond well to tuning.
Good afternoon, I have a 2022 BMW M440I xdrive G26 model and I liked to get it tuned.
I just purchase a VRSF catless downpipe but I was told that I need it to unlock my ecu to avoid an engine light, can you guys help me with this.
I saw your video on you RUclips but I'm confused about my options since I only want to install a catless downpipe and do a stage 1 or 2 tuned.
Your input would be much appreciated.
If you go with an AARP catted dp you can avoid the CEL or there is also spacers that sometimes work with other dps to avoid the CEL. If you choose to go catless you will need to send your ECU abroad and get it unlocked to code out the CEL.
Do you guys ship them to FEMTO for your customers
Which octane do you pick if your state has 92 octane gas? Thanks!
91
wow amazing😮
If i buy one, can you unlock it for a hybrid?
So tempted but JUST bought my 2024 m4 competition xdrive 2 weeks ago 😭😭. My warranty though :((. Was thinking of piggyback for now lol
piggyback voids the warranty too lol
I thought if you remove it before taking it to the dealer they couldn't tell? well might as well send the car to kies haha. @@BK_BT
Hi Bryan...I'm have a F10 528i...can I ask, after I change mst air filter when cold start my car ilde up n down..back to normal after normal temp
Can you use the VeePeek OBD or does it have to be WIFI enabled?
Good question
please make a vid on how to paddle shift for beginners 😩 I'm begging
you mean to press the paddle?
Just play around with them, you'll figure it out pretty quick. The car will not let you hurt it, even in manual mode. Current gen BMW M cars are actually idiot proof because it tells you right in the gauge cluster when you need to shift.
Great video!
I don’t want to sound like a newb but does this void warranty? Ive been struggling on thinking what can I and cant i do to my g82 to be better. Id love to get more hp and burbles but obviously without voiding warranty.
Hi thanks for the video, Does this void warranty? I’m in NJ can I just come out to you?
Was wondering does Kies adapter supports to tune your transmission too ?
Thank you
I have a OBDLink for my 2016 428i F33 and BimmerCode. Do I need a KIES reader?
If M340i production is 17.06.2020 will I be able to unlock or not?
did not see any option for 2023 330e. any ideas why it is not available?
Femto is OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive sadly
yeah it’s expensive but not outrageous. 1600-2000usd is pretty normal
Compared to deleting an tuning a Duramax. It's cheap.
They have a direct option i paid a 1000 for unlock
By comparison to tuning a Porsche, this is still cheap. M-Engineering tune for my 992 was $2500.
@@anikmomin2794what do you mean ?
Wish BM3 supported E70 N63.
Is the A90 supra ECU in the same place,and same way to remove? thanks!
would a bmw dealer see that the dme is unlocked?
Yes.
I have a 440i when I flash it do I still need to wear my seatbelt during the flash cause I see old bootmod videos and the say the seatbelt needs to be plugged in.
You don't have to send the ecu ro Russia any more?
Is a bench unlock required for single-DME N63s that are pre-TU? 2013 550i
Do you offer this service new to bmw and just bought 2024 m240i love car but the 130 limiter is sad.
Is this service only for BMWs?
If my vehicle has the latest software does that mean I need a bench unlock or can I still do OBD unlock?
Is it all the 21 an up models still ?
I just need something that lets me disable stop/start on 2024 M40i’s 😭
Can I do this to my f30 with N20 engine ?
Can this be done in a 23' 430i?
im sure, but that car only comes stock w/ 250 HSP. its so slow.....
I’m interested in flashing my 2015 f30
If you have questions, message us at info@kiesmotorsports.com and our team can assist you
Could I obd tune my 2019 330i xdrive?
Is each unlock specific to different models?
2020 M340i can i do it with the obd2 or do i have to send my dme to kies?
Very much regret getting that latest update -.-
Is it normal it doesn’t get any connection on bm3 ? I did not buy the license yet can it be the reason why there’s no connection ? But I checked with MHD and it did read my dme and needs a femto unlock. Guys HELP!!
Try putting the wifi adapter in manual mode in settings to allow BootMod3 to connect. Reach out to our team at INFO@KIES.COM and our team can assist you further 💪
@@KiesMotorsports i already set it up manually but I don’t get anything, also tried disconnecting the battery in the trunk and re do it but still nothing…
Is it available for Diesel BMW G20 in Europe?
so with obd you don’t have to do anything except for the last part of the video
Are there any tunes/mods for NA Beemers?
Do you have to do this is if I have an f32 and want mhd tho? Or does that classify as obd
Is this better than Dahler piggy back?
the gain in WHP are comparable?
flash unlocks are always better than piggybacks
Wouldn’t you need add new spark plugs?
Should always take care of maintenance before mods
Can i use a different obd enet adapter to connect to the bm3 app?
Brian! Do I need to do my crank hub on my F80 before I do a stage 1 flash?
everyone recommands it but i hear mixed stories from yeah even stock can crack it to people running 600+ without one so. my guess is better to do it and not worry about it. it is expensive
does this work on the a91 supra
Does this mean an already tuned (2014 X5 F15 w/ Stage 2+ BM3) can be further unlocked? Or is it already at this point?
Is femto only
For like new new cars? Like what year frame 2021+?
Yep… Gen 2 engines
Is the kids obd married to one car or can I tune several cars?
Any experience with m850i? Leaning carbahn at the moment.
if you're doing Carbahn from a BMW dealership, its a piggyback tune not a flash tune. I wouldn't do it.
Non tu n63 have just one
You can’t even open the exhaust flaps with BimmerLink on the g80.
The g80 is truly a car for people who won’t mod until warranty is out
any recommendations for a e46 330i. Is it even worth flashing... for 25hp ?💀
When it comes to bench unlock or femto, do I need to know which tuning platform will I use?
No, but speaking from experience and what we run on all of our cars… you can’t go wrong with BM3
@@KiesMotorsports definitely BM3 FTW! I questioned it because when I got a custom tune the tuner advised me go with MHD but I didn't know if I would have had to perform the bench unlock once again
I have m340i with jb4 map 2. Would switching to BM3 stage 2 make a big difference? Wondering if it would be worth the cost of switching
How much HP does it push ?
Yes especially custom tune. Instead of spending money on custom tune jb4. Spend some money sending it out and paying for the service
A real ECU map would be a hugeeee difference then a piggy pack tune. I mean a lot different it’s extremely worth it if your willing to do it
Of course it will lol
Running same setup w catless dp u ever send it ?
So i sent the ECU u get it bench unlocked? Than i can just flash BM3 at home ?
Moreeee Powaaaaa
I though mission or whatever tf their name is got the solution to odb flash 2021+ cars they been saything stay tuned since march I guess they are just lying.
🤜🏼🤛🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
femto isnt cheap
If you buy a car out right they shouldnt have any control over the ecu its a complete joke !
first?
BMW will remotely hack your tuned car and turn off your heated seats.
Awesome video! Massive potential for the S58 platform for sure 🛞 💨