And this is a healthy response! Yelling is NOT a coaching technique that is constructive unless it is done in the context of a safe, trusting, respectful relationship!
Judging from Ms. Debbie L's comments, her choice of words and with an intent to simply attack in an abusive way instead of proper argument for yelling...actually proves that this guy does indeed know what he is talking about. Miss Debbie with your deep throat-hearted intent on disproving the videos thoughts, your actions actually validated the video...
There is a difference in being loud and excited vs being abusive. Putting down a person, isolating them, making fun of them, telling them that’s why you sit on the bench. Love this mentality. We need to teach this to all coaches. Specially those little league parents calling themselves coach.
My athletics coach at school yells a lot and our teams have won many games. But she disciplines hard ( I had to do 250 sit-ups once because a sub said that I was “back taking” her) but then she asks you if you have learned anything and makes sure you understand the punishment. She told me she was very disappointed because she knows I’m better than that and it made me think and change my attitude.
Coach... you’re a teacher during the week and a coach on Friday night/Saturday afternoon... does a teacher yell at the kid who screws up a math problem?.. No...the other thing I learned from an Olympic judo coach... you’re not going to teach anyone anything on the day of competition.., your job is to get them through the competition... same on game day in other sports.. you get them., coach them through the game.. go back and teach on Monday... I’ve coached for 30 years... HS... college.., these coaches are correct... I’ve had way more success with this type of coaching than any other... it is what it is
only reason why I'm here because it was my first time my coach screamed at me and I'm used to doing everything right I've been doing the same thing since I started football how come he starts to yell now ?
I yell at my players not in hateful way i always say good job or good after they do something right and i raise my voice in a loud tone not necessarily yell but im correcting them on their technique or that they need to be going harder and not be lethargic and give 100 percent effort and be aggresive and u also have to yell sometimes otherwise kids will walk all over you u cant be their friend u can care about them but at the end of the day ur their coach and u have to get after them
Tyler! I totally agree! I have no problem with coaches getting angry and yelling act their athletes as long as it is done in the context of a safe, trusting and respectful relationship! When athletes aren't giving a full effort, when they're not paying attention, acting out, etc., it's fine for coaches to get upset and constructively intervene. As a coach, you never need to yell in a manner that attacks an individual's character and demeans them! However, it's fine to call a player out when they're not taking responsibility and doing their job as long as it is done constructively! (I.e. "I don't like your behavior! This is what you're doing wrong and this is what you need to do differently and this is what I expect of you!")
@@TheCompetitivedge i agree and sometimes u get soft kids that this sport just isn't meant for them i remember watching a show about a Juco football school on Netflix and the coach one time says Hurry up u fat F*** and I just thought man thats not right
The athlete will give 200% without asking instead of 110% when told if you make them believe in themself and give them motivation to do their best, for themself, for the team, for the coach. Ever had a sense of flow when playing, that you just can't do a wrong move? Well, imagine that the opposite for any and every mistake that happens, no matter how minor. Will you score after becoming afraid to make a mistake while trying? Will you surprise anyone when you're afraid of doing something out of ordinary in the fear of making a mistake? No, your creativity shuts down and all options look like possible failures instead of possible success. Of course there are people who have a spark set on fire in them when they make a mistake and you yell at them to be better, but that's some individual and very particular personalities, not a general case. Eventually the athlete will just hate the coach and the game. It's similar to starting say a martial art and the sensei thinks their role is to have fun smashing beginners and less skilled players, give them a "lesson". Or not even the sensei, the lower belts too who are higher than the beginners. It is not motivating, it is not bringing kids (or adults) to the sport, it is at worst a high injury risk, it is not teaching them anything and it is not even effective practice to the person doing the smashing. "The mutual benefit" is even in the mottos of judo, and part of that is practicing effectively despite skill difference. Even if you let the beginner have a grip or try a throw, even letting them throw if they executed the technique well, it is not ruining your practice - you can focus on techniques that you don't master yet and that you can't reasonably use against your peers because they'd catch you fumbling and penalize you. And even better, giving tips while doing it will benefit you as well, they say teaching is the fastest way to learn something well. The unfortunate thing is that in many sports the coaches aren't required to have any pedagogic education or necessarily even any coaching courses that extend beyond physical training. And they become merited if their athletes get results so they are seen as authorities. A bit similarly to how someone with great genetics, some PED use and plenty of effort becomes a successful bodybuilder, or bodybuilders coached by someone become successful, people go to ask the bodybuilder how to train and they might know nothing about training successfully for other than themself or people who could succeed with just about anything as long as they put in effort. Partially that's why many PhDs of sports science, of course initially getting the spark to study from participating, but later having a higher motivation to do well in competitive scene as well just to get some credibility from the masses to what they're trying to educate people on.
Get out of here. Dont demean but players do not respond to just to positive reinforcement. You learn grit and determination by digging deep. It all starts at home. If parents constantly they make excuses for their kids when coaches are hard on them their kids become weak and quitters that way. Way more than a coach yelling at them. There is a fine line between idiots who just yell and a coach is trying to help you realize that you have more to give. Most times if not all it is through tough love. Lastly if a coach is not pushing you they think you suck or you have a coach who wants everyone to have fun and get a trophy. That’s not the way of the world. It’s just not. If you are not being pushed in competitor sports you stink or your coach is clueless. This is reality. Self esteem comes from self belief and toughness. Not from an other whether it’s a coach or not. This is the problem with our society,
Patrick, I have absolutely no problem with coaches being tough on their athletes as long as it is done in the context of a trusting, caring relationship. Good coaches sell two things to their athletes: Hard work and the pursuit of excellence. This can't happen if the coach doesn't consistently push an athlete out of their comfort zone. The issue I have is with coaches who don't know how or care to develop trusting, safe relationships with their athletes. Instead, they demean, embarrass and humiliate their athletes. They coach through fear. Their explanation for this is that this is how you build mental toughness and prepare athletes to perform at the next level. This belief is delusional! Without a caring, trusting relationship you will never be able to truly motivate athletes to excel and take their performance to the next level. I am certainly not advocating that coaches shouldn't push their athletes or even yell at them. Yelling is fine in the context of that solid relationship. However, in the absence of a trusting relationship, yelling and putting your players down becomes nothing more than emotional abuse!
Its my first time doing soccer and I threw up and my coach yells super loud and wants us do every thing perfect and said don't stop running at the next day today I just want to quite cause my leg every walk and move can't even do it it actually hurts so I have to go but I don't want to so I'm waiting till my season is done but I can't wait cause it sucks being a soccer team know
I can assure you that the most successful team in NBA for the last 20yrs gets yelled at. I'm a Laker fan ..unfortunately that's not who I'm speaking of. Gregg Popovich yells yet he cultivates the players character not destroy it. its a difference. people become too bias on toward the yelling in sports coaching define it better within reason, other wise you'll always get in the way of someone achieving their best through adverse conditions. so, stay balanced in coaching to much of anything can be good or bad for an individual. It just depends on that individual. "Many respond on different frequencies, so respond toward different individuals with frequent consistency ."An old quote from ALH.
The litmus test for coaching behavior at the minor level is pretty simple but not many people think of it: Simply ask if you could do/say this with an adult team. Most adult teams are made up of a voluntary association of like minded/skilled individuals who pay their own fees and drive themselves to practices and games, so this is a good way to see if particular behaviors are acceptable. People forget that kids are little adults and if treated inappropriately they will lose interest in playing. Every now and then you get a player on an adult team that has nothing but criticism for his team mates, and perhaps yells at them a lot. This normally gets corrected very quickly as the other players tell him/her to stuff a sock in it or de-invite them from the team. You have to command a lot of respect in order to be critical, and you have to do it in a constructive way. The same can be said for playing time (subject of a previous video where I disagree with this guy). On an adult team, everybody plays, even the call ups. If a player sits on the bench, he/she loses motivation to drive him/herself to the games and stops showing up. Or say your team brings a few call ups/recruits to a tournament and then they don't play. They won't come next year. This advice doesn't necessarily apply to professional sports where players are getting paid even if they are sitting on the bench and may not have better prospects, or to high school and college teams who have enormous pressure on them to win. But even in professional sports it applies somewhat, especially to marque players who have options once the contract expires. If the coach makes their life hell enough, they will be leaving for another team once they are a free agent. Sure, you can convince them to stay with a few extra million a year, but it's usually cheaper to get a better coach. So the simplest test for any youth coaching behavior is simply to ask if it would be appropriate if you were coaching an adult team. If the answer is "no", you need to modify your behavior. If you wouldn't do or say something to an adult, you have no business doing or saying it to someone else's kid. Now that said, there can be a sort of "theatrics" involved in coaching, to pump the players up and extract the best performance from the players. But it's more along the lines of "we are going to go out there and give 110% (huh? But it works) and "we are going to leave everything on the field and win this game!" Not "if we lose it's all wind sprints next practice you sucky losers." You can see just by thinking about it for a moment that the hypothetical adult team would react much differently to the 2 scenarios. The adult team will let pretty much anybody give the 110% speech and get all pumped up and fire the sucky loser speech guy. That said a youth coach still has to be a disciplinarian, but it must be fair and constructive. Saying things like "let's go people, we aren't getting any faster if we don't run as hard as we can!" might be ok, but your personal trainer says that too so it is acceptable adult language.
That does not work this way. That is more like a female majorette coach encouraging her female baton twirlers winning all competitions. You win some, you lose some. This is how competitive works this way.
imin football in school.And my coaches freaking scream like dinosaurs.if we don't follow directons he screams to us right in our face and makes us do push ups.but if 1 person does it wrong the whole team does push from 10 to 100.
Yelling is not meant to demean or crush an athlete. Yelling is a way of communicating a sense of urgency. abuse is when you say demeaning and nasty things to kids. I yell all the time, and my kids yell back communications back to me and each other. I teach them to go get what they want... the timid, the weak, the mild , will not survive. I preach for them to be alive with enthusiasm. When a mental or physical mistake is made, I YELL for one simple reason..., I want that play made !!! The kids know that coaches who yell care..., The coach is alive with competitiveness too. IF I PLAYED FOR THIS GUY TALKING HERE, I WOULD FALL ASLEEP ON THE FIELD.... LMAO.... , ITS ALL GOOD, MANY WAYS TO DO THINGS, SO DON'T BASH SOMETHING YOU MISUNDERSTAND....
Negative performance requires negative feedback - that's life Coach. Obviously you don't know what you're talking about. Positive performance is just as quickly rewarded. It's a completely HONEST approach...you liberal wimp. The "military mentality" as you so call it - has many purposes - overcoming FEAR is one of them. Ovecoming FEAR requires that the player learns how to adapt to negativity, yelling, etc. MAN UP or turn in your Coaching card.
I would have to disagree with part of this. I think that yelling is important. Most athletes (like myself) hate failure. I have played baseball, football, soccer, and boxing. I would push myself harder when I would fail. I use this technique in the gym daily. I am stronger when I am frustrated at myself. Look at nick saben, He might be the greatest college football coach of all time. He hates failure more than the next three guys combined. I would have to disagree that nick saben is unsuccessful and not a good coach. He praises people when they need to be praised and corrects people when they make mistakes. We are men and not boys. Athletes here to compete and not to receive a participation trophy.
The yelling isn't the problem. The problem is how they do it and when they do it! If you get angry at a player and yell at them in the context of a caring relationship, then that is acceptable. What isn't ok is to yell and demean athletes and make them feel badly about themselves for no constructive reason. And there are some coaches out there who do just that!
I one hundred percent agree. I wanna respond to coaches every time they yell negative garbage and curse at players calling them disgraces and crap.
And this is a healthy response! Yelling is NOT a coaching technique that is constructive unless it is done in the context of a safe, trusting, respectful relationship!
Judging from Ms. Debbie L's comments, her choice of words and with an intent to simply attack in an abusive way instead of proper argument for yelling...actually proves that this guy does indeed know what he is talking about.
Miss Debbie with your deep throat-hearted intent on disproving the videos thoughts, your actions actually validated the video...
There is a difference in being loud and excited vs being abusive. Putting down a person, isolating them, making fun of them, telling them that’s why you sit on the bench. Love this mentality. We need to teach this to all coaches. Specially those little league parents calling themselves coach.
10 years later and this is STILL a problem with coaches! So sad to see coaches demeaning players/athletes
My athletics coach at school yells a lot and our teams have won many games. But she disciplines hard ( I had to do 250 sit-ups once because a sub said that I was “back taking” her) but then she asks you if you have learned anything and makes sure you understand the punishment. She told me she was very disappointed because she knows I’m better than that and it made me think and change my attitude.
Best thing I learned.. from a very winning HS and JC football
Coach... you’re a teacher during the week and a coach on Friday night/Saturday afternoon... does a teacher yell at the kid who screws up a math problem?.. No...the other thing I learned from an Olympic judo coach... you’re not going to teach anyone anything on the day of competition.., your job is to get them through the competition... same on game day in other sports.. you get them., coach them through the game.. go back and teach on Monday... I’ve coached for 30 years... HS... college.., these coaches are correct... I’ve had way more success with this type of coaching than any other... it is what it is
only reason why I'm here because it was my first time my coach screamed at me and I'm used to doing everything right I've been doing the same thing since I started football how come he starts to yell now ?
It's always the how, when and why.
I yell at my players not in hateful way i always say good job or good after they do something right and i raise my voice in a loud tone not necessarily yell but im correcting them on their technique or that they need to be going harder and not be lethargic and give 100 percent effort and be aggresive and u also have to yell sometimes otherwise kids will walk all over you u cant be their friend u can care about them but at the end of the day ur their coach and u have to get after them
Tyler! I totally agree! I have no problem with coaches getting angry and yelling act their athletes as long as it is done in the context of a safe, trusting and respectful relationship!
When athletes aren't giving a full effort, when they're not paying attention, acting out, etc., it's fine for coaches to get upset and constructively intervene. As a coach, you never need to yell in a manner that attacks an individual's character and demeans them!
However, it's fine to call a player out when they're not taking responsibility and doing their job as long as it is done constructively! (I.e. "I don't like your behavior! This is what you're doing wrong and this is what you need to do differently and this is what I expect of you!")
@@TheCompetitivedge i agree and sometimes u get soft kids that this sport just isn't meant for them i remember watching a show about a Juco football school on Netflix and the coach one time says Hurry up u fat F*** and I just thought man thats not right
If someone yells at me, I stop listening. If they yell to me, i listen.
The 1 dislike is an old school coach that yells at his players.
The athlete will give 200% without asking instead of 110% when told if you make them believe in themself and give them motivation to do their best, for themself, for the team, for the coach. Ever had a sense of flow when playing, that you just can't do a wrong move? Well, imagine that the opposite for any and every mistake that happens, no matter how minor. Will you score after becoming afraid to make a mistake while trying? Will you surprise anyone when you're afraid of doing something out of ordinary in the fear of making a mistake? No, your creativity shuts down and all options look like possible failures instead of possible success. Of course there are people who have a spark set on fire in them when they make a mistake and you yell at them to be better, but that's some individual and very particular personalities, not a general case. Eventually the athlete will just hate the coach and the game.
It's similar to starting say a martial art and the sensei thinks their role is to have fun smashing beginners and less skilled players, give them a "lesson". Or not even the sensei, the lower belts too who are higher than the beginners. It is not motivating, it is not bringing kids (or adults) to the sport, it is at worst a high injury risk, it is not teaching them anything and it is not even effective practice to the person doing the smashing. "The mutual benefit" is even in the mottos of judo, and part of that is practicing effectively despite skill difference. Even if you let the beginner have a grip or try a throw, even letting them throw if they executed the technique well, it is not ruining your practice - you can focus on techniques that you don't master yet and that you can't reasonably use against your peers because they'd catch you fumbling and penalize you. And even better, giving tips while doing it will benefit you as well, they say teaching is the fastest way to learn something well.
The unfortunate thing is that in many sports the coaches aren't required to have any pedagogic education or necessarily even any coaching courses that extend beyond physical training. And they become merited if their athletes get results so they are seen as authorities. A bit similarly to how someone with great genetics, some PED use and plenty of effort becomes a successful bodybuilder, or bodybuilders coached by someone become successful, people go to ask the bodybuilder how to train and they might know nothing about training successfully for other than themself or people who could succeed with just about anything as long as they put in effort. Partially that's why many PhDs of sports science, of course initially getting the spark to study from participating, but later having a higher motivation to do well in competitive scene as well just to get some credibility from the masses to what they're trying to educate people on.
Get out of here. Dont demean but players do not respond to just to positive reinforcement. You learn grit and determination by digging deep.
It all starts at home. If parents constantly they make excuses for their kids when coaches are hard on them their kids become weak and quitters that way. Way more than a coach yelling at them.
There is a fine line between idiots who just yell and a coach is trying to help you realize that you have more to give. Most times if not all it is through tough love.
Lastly if a coach is not pushing you they think you suck or you have a coach who wants everyone to have fun and get a trophy. That’s not the way of the world. It’s just not.
If you are not being pushed in competitor sports you stink or your coach is clueless. This is reality. Self esteem comes from self belief and toughness. Not from an other whether it’s a coach or not. This is the problem with our society,
Patrick,
I have absolutely no problem with coaches being tough on their athletes as long as it is done in the context of a trusting, caring relationship. Good coaches sell two things to their athletes: Hard work and the pursuit of excellence. This can't happen if the coach doesn't consistently push an athlete out of their comfort zone.
The issue I have is with coaches who don't know how or care to develop trusting, safe relationships with their athletes. Instead, they demean, embarrass and humiliate their athletes. They coach through fear. Their explanation for this is that this is how you build mental toughness and prepare athletes to perform at the next level. This belief is delusional! Without a caring, trusting relationship you will never be able to truly motivate athletes to excel and take their performance to the next level.
I am certainly not advocating that coaches shouldn't push their athletes or even yell at them. Yelling is fine in the context of that solid relationship. However, in the absence of a trusting relationship, yelling and putting your players down becomes nothing more than emotional abuse!
@@TheCompetitivedgeEXACTLY You better PREACH
Its my first time doing soccer and I threw up and my coach yells super loud and wants us do every thing perfect and said don't stop running at the next day today I just want to quite cause my leg every walk and move can't even do it it actually hurts so I have to go but I don't want to so I'm waiting till my season is done but I can't wait cause it sucks being a soccer team know
I can assure you that the most successful team in NBA for the last 20yrs gets yelled at. I'm a Laker fan ..unfortunately that's not who I'm speaking of. Gregg Popovich yells yet he cultivates the players character not destroy it. its a difference. people become too bias on toward the yelling in sports coaching define it better within reason, other wise you'll always get in the way of someone achieving their best through adverse conditions. so, stay balanced in coaching to much of anything can be good or bad for an individual. It just depends on that individual. "Many respond on different frequencies, so respond toward different individuals with frequent consistency ."An old quote from ALH.
My high-school coaches should of watched this haha
The litmus test for coaching behavior at the minor level is pretty simple but not many people think of it: Simply ask if you could do/say this with an adult team. Most adult teams are made up of a voluntary association of like minded/skilled individuals who pay their own fees and drive themselves to practices and games, so this is a good way to see if particular behaviors are acceptable. People forget that kids are little adults and if treated inappropriately they will lose interest in playing.
Every now and then you get a player on an adult team that has nothing but criticism for his team mates, and perhaps yells at them a lot. This normally gets corrected very quickly as the other players tell him/her to stuff a sock in it or de-invite them from the team. You have to command a lot of respect in order to be critical, and you have to do it in a constructive way.
The same can be said for playing time (subject of a previous video where I disagree with this guy). On an adult team, everybody plays, even the call ups. If a player sits on the bench, he/she loses motivation to drive him/herself to the games and stops showing up. Or say your team brings a few call ups/recruits to a tournament and then they don't play. They won't come next year.
This advice doesn't necessarily apply to professional sports where players are getting paid even if they are sitting on the bench and may not have better prospects, or to high school and college teams who have enormous pressure on them to win. But even in professional sports it applies somewhat, especially to marque players who have options once the contract expires. If the coach makes their life hell enough, they will be leaving for another team once they are a free agent. Sure, you can convince them to stay with a few extra million a year, but it's usually cheaper to get a better coach.
So the simplest test for any youth coaching behavior is simply to ask if it would be appropriate if you were coaching an adult team. If the answer is "no", you need to modify your behavior. If you wouldn't do or say something to an adult, you have no business doing or saying it to someone else's kid.
Now that said, there can be a sort of "theatrics" involved in coaching, to pump the players up and extract the best performance from the players. But it's more along the lines of "we are going to go out there and give 110% (huh? But it works) and "we are going to leave everything on the field and win this game!" Not "if we lose it's all wind sprints next practice you sucky losers." You can see just by thinking about it for a moment that the hypothetical adult team would react much differently to the 2 scenarios. The adult team will let pretty much anybody give the 110% speech and get all pumped up and fire the sucky loser speech guy.
That said a youth coach still has to be a disciplinarian, but it must be fair and constructive. Saying things like "let's go people, we aren't getting any faster if we don't run as hard as we can!" might be ok, but your personal trainer says that too so it is acceptable adult language.
My own players yell at me
D1M1T not sure if your trolling, I would run them. If they still keep it up just point to the door
That does not work this way. That is more like a female majorette coach encouraging her female baton twirlers winning all competitions. You win some, you lose some. This is how competitive works this way.
imin football in school.And my coaches freaking scream like dinosaurs.if we don't follow directons he screams to us right in our face and makes us do push ups.but if 1 person does it wrong the whole team does push from 10 to 100.
Yelling is not meant to demean or crush an athlete. Yelling is a way of communicating a sense of urgency.
abuse is when you say demeaning and nasty things to kids. I yell all the time, and my kids yell back communications back to me and each other. I teach them to go get what they want... the timid, the weak, the mild , will not survive. I preach for them to be alive with enthusiasm. When a mental or physical mistake is made, I YELL for one simple reason..., I want that play made !!!
The kids know that coaches who yell care..., The coach is alive with competitiveness too. IF I PLAYED FOR THIS GUY TALKING HERE, I WOULD FALL ASLEEP ON THE FIELD.... LMAO.... , ITS ALL GOOD, MANY WAYS TO DO THINGS, SO DON'T BASH SOMETHING YOU MISUNDERSTAND....
Negative performance requires negative feedback - that's life Coach. Obviously you don't know what you're talking about. Positive performance is just as quickly rewarded. It's a completely HONEST approach...you liberal wimp. The "military mentality" as you so call it - has many purposes - overcoming FEAR is one of them. Ovecoming FEAR requires that the player learns how to adapt to negativity, yelling, etc. MAN UP or turn in your Coaching card.
I would have to disagree with part of this. I think that yelling is important. Most athletes (like myself) hate failure. I have played baseball, football, soccer, and boxing. I would push myself harder when I would fail. I use this technique in the gym daily. I am stronger when I am frustrated at myself. Look at nick saben, He might be the greatest college football coach of all time. He hates failure more than the next three guys combined. I would have to disagree that nick saben is unsuccessful and not a good coach. He praises people when they need to be praised and corrects people when they make mistakes. We are men and not boys. Athletes here to compete and not to receive a participation trophy.
When coach yell at you they care about you they want you to do it correct next time, bad coach would not yell because they don care
The yelling isn't the problem. The problem is how they do it and when they do it! If you get angry at a player and yell at them in the context of a caring relationship, then that is acceptable. What isn't ok is to yell and demean athletes and make them feel badly about themselves for no constructive reason. And there are some coaches out there who do just that!
YELLING AT PLAYERS WORKS ITS A METHOD THAT WORKS.THIS DOCTOR IS A COOK,HE IS USING JUNK SCIENCE.