One trick I've learned thats actually pretty cool involves Goku black's 2S. His 2S can not go into an airdash but it does have the same animation as jS. So sometimes I'll condition someone using 2s and then I'll do 5LL into jS and hit them with a jL, jM, or jH. It doesn't always work and they'd have to block low but it definitely catches people when they're not really expecting it, it also helps if you put an assist behind it. But it's also useful because if you notice they're able to react to the 2S, you can bait them with the jS and if you manage to do that, then you can use 2S and it's sort of a mind game. Not the best ever but just something I've picked up to have a little fun
@@daniloka42 Yeah I've done it once or twice but depending on how you space it, it's really hard to get a crossup. Since you can't jS out of anything other than 5L, you have to make sure that you're close enough to actually do the crossup and GB's 5L reaches pretty far. But it's definitely a good way to get into your opponents head, lmk if you find a better way to cross up out of the jS!
"I teach people how to stop mashing". You certainly managed just that, friend. Thanks to your amazing guides, I can say I have become a better player who enjoys the game a lot more. AND I finally got into frame data as well. Thank you so much for all your work dude. It is greatly appreciated. 👍
Thanks so much for doing these guides. you're the most in depth and visually easy guide creator to watch. Looking forward to all of your character guides so I can get my mains
That block string flow chart is so helpful, I wish someone made that but for the entire characters move set to help build combos. Oh well a man can dream
For me my issue is playing with him sucking at mix and his moves being meh for so long that my brain is wired to just not use certain moves or combo routes without realizing that most of the moves I tried not to use are now super good. My Muscle memory actively fights me as I play Rose but due to playing Baseku and his weaker version for such a long time I actually have a really good Neutral game now.
I think it’s safe to say that it only makes sense for Tinytorgue to cover the “other half” of the equation. 😏 This day marks the beginning of a new chapter of the universe! The name of the one to author that chapter is Zamasu, the bringer of eternal order!
i know picking up this game 5 years later is a death sentence outside of playing with the homies, but this is such a helpful video nonetheless. Goku Black is one of my favorite DB characters ever and i feel like this video is really helping me connect with the game in general. I'm just hoping to become competent in time for the rollback update and next possible iteration of DBFZ. Thank you TinyTorgue
Training combos are quite good, and help you get a grasp of how a character can link certain moves into others. I’d recommend anyone new to this character to just do combo challenge, and see what is possible. None of the combos require assists, either.
@@josukehigashikata860 Synergy is how the characters cooperate in a team, for example:Tohan and baseku have good synergy since Tohan can combo his level one into spirit bomb
Goku Black with Wesker's theme fits perfectly, I mean both of them have a lot of similarities, to begin with they're both dark entities (or to make it simple they're edgelords)
Could you possibly make a SSJ Vegeta guide? Even though he’s standard, there’s not that many videos of him. It would be very helpful for newer players 🙏🙏
I found a TOD using the assist combo 2 example. 2 bar starter, does need spark. I did it pre sparked, don't know how you would spark mid combo so fyi. And the only thing you need to do is 2S>5L5H5S>236S>SD. That is the only addition. After the 214s just level 1, level 1, level 3
Thinking about dripping Black for UI Goku. I haven't had any matches with him yet but I've seen Black at bottom 2 in almost every list. Edit: There's still something about Black that just speaks to me. Like this character is calling me.
I did not know the divekicks gave another jump and SD, super useful to know! Thanks for the guide, now I can play better and justify my Grand Preist rank with Black Zamasu and Tien
7:39 Wanna ask, frametraps can beat mashing right? But in general, what examples of loophole in a blockstring can blocking players look for where they can counter through mashing? I.e what are the scenarios in FighterZ where players are incentivized to mash/normal attack?
Mashing includes mashing any button, jumping constantly and trying to counter. Theres scenarios where mashing is the right answer, like to not get grabbed or to take your turn back when they try to reset pressure or in just in general to punish sloppy/loose mix
@@TinyTorgue i think mashing reflect is better to punish a loose mix. what if they leave like 1 frame gap and you mash there? i see loose mixes like stagger pressure, you really dont wanna mash on them.
![DBFZ - Goku Black Optimal Combo Guide [1.33]](/img/1.gif)
“Nobody mains this character”
Axeice: “Am I a joke to you?”
i forgor 💀
@@TinyTorgue just for this comment ain't getting a like
Didn’t axe drop this game
@@naitsirc481 obviously you don’t pay attention, he doesn’t stream that much
@@naitsirc481 nope he’s streaming rn
One trick I've learned thats actually pretty cool involves Goku black's 2S. His 2S can not go into an airdash but it does have the same animation as jS. So sometimes I'll condition someone using 2s and then I'll do 5LL into jS and hit them with a jL, jM, or jH. It doesn't always work and they'd have to block low but it definitely catches people when they're not really expecting it, it also helps if you put an assist behind it. But it's also useful because if you notice they're able to react to the 2S, you can bait them with the jS and if you manage to do that, then you can use 2S and it's sort of a mind game. Not the best ever but just something I've picked up to have a little fun
Maybe crossup with j.S and Air Dash?
@@daniloka42 Yeah I've done it once or twice but depending on how you space it, it's really hard to get a crossup. Since you can't jS out of anything other than 5L, you have to make sure that you're close enough to actually do the crossup and GB's 5L reaches pretty far. But it's definitely a good way to get into your opponents head, lmk if you find a better way to cross up out of the jS!
Now I can rest in peace.
And i comment to slow now
@@bardockvegetable6377 but you grow at least
Sensei Torgue making every character look smooth with these guides, let's go
Wow the editing, humour, and just overall quality of these videos is insane. Major respect for you and the effort you put into your videos!
"I teach people how to stop mashing".
You certainly managed just that, friend. Thanks to your amazing guides, I can say I have become a better player who enjoys the game a lot more. AND I finally got into frame data as well. Thank you so much for all your work dude. It is greatly appreciated. 👍
I was not expecting the Isaac OST at the end, but damn does it fit well with Black's TOD
Thanks so much for doing these guides. you're the most in depth and visually easy guide creator to watch. Looking forward to all of your character guides so I can get my mains
That transition between the future and the present was smooth
That block string flow chart is so helpful, I wish someone made that but for the entire characters move set to help build combos. Oh well a man can dream
You just can't make those for combos, there is no way it would make any sense
@@TinyTorgue I guess maybe like only specifically special moves like telling u what moves can confirm into a super dash, vanish, etc
Been waiting for this! I’ve had mr dark Goku on my team for a while now but I’ve been struggling to open up people on block
For me my issue is playing with him sucking at mix and his moves being meh for so long that my brain is wired to just not use certain moves or combo routes without realizing that most of the moves I tried not to use are now super good. My Muscle memory actively fights me as I play Rose but due to playing Baseku and his weaker version for such a long time I actually have a really good Neutral game now.
Amazing video! The Rosé clan is definitely on the rise. Thank you so much for the S/O🤩
You deserve more credit bro you're the best channel to really get good at the game.
@@wildrussiansnake8978 ong
I think it’s safe to say that it only makes sense for Tinytorgue to cover the “other half” of the equation. 😏
This day marks the beginning of a new chapter of the universe! The name of the one to author that chapter is Zamasu, the bringer of eternal order!
i know picking up this game 5 years later is a death sentence outside of playing with the homies, but this is such a helpful video nonetheless. Goku Black is one of my favorite DB characters ever and i feel like this video is really helping me connect with the game in general. I'm just hoping to become competent in time for the rollback update and next possible iteration of DBFZ. Thank you TinyTorgue
Training combos are quite good, and help you get a grasp of how a character can link certain moves into others. I’d recommend anyone new to this character to just do combo challenge, and see what is possible. None of the combos require assists, either.
It's everything I ever wanted. Excellent work👌
You should do a synergy section just sayin
what is synergy? sorry im new
@@josukehigashikata860 Synergy is how the characters cooperate in a team, for example:Tohan and baseku have good synergy since Tohan can combo his level one into spirit bomb
@@gatosurfista4947 ohhhh ok thanks!
Ayyyyy novazayn getting some recognition! You love to see it
Welp, time to get back on fighterz and use team “pink/purple is manly” using black, baby and janemba
5:52 Beautiful description
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
That use of Janemba portal was creative asf not gonna lie
Finally, I can be semi-good at the game, thank you
If only I could remeber all of this while I was playing
Been waiting for this one😎
I think about starting off with this character and this definitely would help me understand his style so thanks for that.
nice guide as always and i really love your music decision.its really good.
Editing leveled up🔥🔥🔥
i require a nappa guide
Goku Black with Wesker's theme fits perfectly, I mean both of them have a lot of similarities, to begin with they're both dark entities (or to make it simple they're edgelords)
Lets go, finna sharpen my main :)
Could you possibly make a SSJ Vegeta guide? Even though he’s standard, there’s not that many videos of him. It would be very helpful for newer players 🙏🙏
J.5S after 214H is so saucy
The wesker theme is so fitting
*cough* Still waiting on that Piccolo guide. *cough* *cough
As a piccolo main, same
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THE DAY HAS COME
Really good stuff my dude
Best guides on yt for sure 🔥🔥. Piccolo guide needa come out tho 😂🤝
hot damn it feels like these are coming out crazy fast atm
Hey bro love the guide,
Quick question, does the vanish extension in 15:10 only work on large characters ??
Nope, that should be universal
@@TinyTorgue ok sweet bro ❤️👍🏻, I think I have to fit the j before my 214L
Amazing video !
Magnificent guide.
great guide. massive thanks 👍
Finally!
Amazing vid I’m picking him up again ... I was doubting him because all the other powerhouse characters but I just like him too much
Idk if Goku black has enough stuff in the latest patch to warrant another guide but I think I’d like to see some uses for 214 M
bro this gotta be the best tutorial to ever exist
Yo dose this dude stream ?
LETS FUCKING GOOOO
yo that message at 5:58 😂😂 im dead
Cooler guide
I found a TOD using the assist combo 2 example. 2 bar starter, does need spark. I did it pre sparked, don't know how you would spark mid combo so fyi. And the only thing you need to do is 2S>5L5H5S>236S>SD. That is the only addition. After the 214s just level 1, level 1, level 3
this video better be godly
LETS GOO!!!
He did it boys!
i was literally just looking for this last night what. same thing happened with the broly video LOOL
Thank u :D
“nobody mains this character”
i too grow closer and closer to not maining him anymore.. great guide tho!
Yo what happened to your adult gohan video, I really liked that one😔🥔
Copyright claimed and unavailable almost everywhere, dont worry though ive got something coming
@@TinyTorgue I'll be waiting, yessir 😈🥔
@@samoansilverback411 Me too, I was just searching for that video
hyped
5:59 I can appreciate that
Nice
Am I the only one expecting a Monty Python reference at Holy Light Grenade section?
Frieza next PLEASE 😭
thanks for Yakuza music again, Chaps
i wanna get into this game but it looks difficult is it worth it?
Its the easiest fighting game to get into of all time, absolutely go for it
@@TinyTorgue deffinatly not the easiest but it's deffinatly on the easier side.
Now I’m waiting on Android 18 combos
Now we need zamasu
please zamasu guide bro! TuT
Bubble gum flavoured kamehameha ☠️
I know we shit on Tien for being about as plain as white rice but Goku Black is equally as sleep in my eyes- still a great review as always
He’s one of the coolest characters and has some of the sauciest and most badass looking moves, combos and supers etc you’re tripping
Thinking about dripping Black for UI Goku. I haven't had any matches with him yet but I've seen Black at bottom 2 in almost every list.
Edit: There's still something about Black that just speaks to me. Like this character is calling me.
He's not terrible anymore, definitely no longer bottom two so dont worry about that
Don't drop a charecter just cause hes low on teir lists, if you do good with him and like playing him then keep playing him
1:04 jutsu bola de fuego
Yo, on everything, I'd sign up on patreon if you drop a Super Baby guide next
Super Baby has gone almost entirely unchanged, the Season 3 guide is still very up to date. that said ill still update it with the stats sheer and all
Subarashii!
Why are you running??? Just for that ima sub 😭😭
I'mma need that ginyu guide cuh
get us them zamasu guide
Where adult gohan guide
Where can I find this instrumental for the beginning. Epic
Will u do gogeta and teen gohan?
These combos still work today?
Please A-18 guide
I did not know the divekicks gave another jump and SD, super useful to know! Thanks for the guide, now I can play better and justify my Grand Preist rank with Black Zamasu and Tien
0:22 did trunks say we will die Got it
Whos next? I hope is ssj goku or cell
Blacks's... Plural Plurals???
5:59 I didn’t say anything I swear
Like I did with the community post: Great Value SSGSS
Ig Great Value is better than name brand in this case
7:39 Wanna ask, frametraps can beat mashing right? But in general, what examples of loophole in a blockstring can blocking players look for where they can counter through mashing? I.e what are the scenarios in FighterZ where players are incentivized to mash/normal attack?
Mashing includes mashing any button, jumping constantly and trying to counter. Theres scenarios where mashing is the right answer, like to not get grabbed or to take your turn back when they try to reset pressure or in just in general to punish sloppy/loose mix
@@TinyTorgue Ooh got it thanks! 🙏
@@TinyTorgue i think mashing reflect is better to punish a loose mix. what if they leave like 1 frame gap and you mash there? i see loose mixes like stagger pressure, you really dont wanna mash on them.
Can u do Frieza or Base Vegeta soon
Me seeing 3J H4 j3 jH3 and stuff like that while looking at my controller with just X Y A B
Pause on the infographic before the character intro, we're all on different platforms so we try to make it universal
@@TinyTorgue oh I didn't see that thanks
“No one mains this character” I BEG YOUR PARDON HE HAS BEEN MY MAIN SINCE THIS GAME’S RELEASE
I think people are talking about pros when they say that stuff
Nerf Ginyu
PS: 16/Nappa guide when?
16 and nappa lmao
@@diaco3100
Good, you don‘t know 👁
Majin But next
Is the jab necessary for the meaty? Or can you just set it up with good timing?
You can manually time it too, the 5L is there to kill the perfect amount of time
@@TinyTorgue Thank you, good to know cuz I'm having trouble getting the input to register.
You can do the other characters too please
6:30 Can the community please decide on a common name for this technique? I've seen like 3 different names for it.
That's literally it, god slicer dance
God Slicer is also the special move, both share the first part but the super has also dance in it.
The next for adultos Gohan please