Thanks man, but I don’t know about all that, I’m fumbling my way through it though! I HOPE I love this bike! It’s looking pretty awesome, it might be the worst thing ever on the trails though, 😆.
From someone dealing with a hard clutch pull right now on a yz250, I appreciate this video. Definitely gunna order this up. I’ve also done a new cable and I oil it frequently. I did the basket first as you did lol.
Came across this video on my hunt for an easier clutch pull. Purchased a new 450FX this last spring and been riding some very technical single tracks. This was a compromise type purchase as I sold a CRF450 and a KTM 300 to get one bike to do it all. But lately after each ride I am getting some serious joint and hand pain. So the time has come. I appreciate the time you took to log the differences. Been looking at ASV lever/perch, clutch springs and going hydro. Definitely an investment. Just wanted to say thanks for the content!
You bet! I wouldn’t be afraid to yank a couple springs out of the clutch pack and see how it goes (unless it has like 4 springs already). That might sound like sacrilege to some though. People do it on YZ250s but they’re very secretive about it. 😂 even if it led to more clutch wear, it’s such a cheap and easy replacement. I’m fool of terrible ideas though. 😆
I'm getting pretty serious arm pump from my TE510. Might be time to start looking for any alternative springs and a new lever because -20% sounds fantastic to me.
I just replaced my rear sprocket and the bolts were all individualy wrapped. I thought the same thing, what a pain to open each one! What's the big crescent wrench on the peg board for?
This was an awesome test with really interesting results. I think you should go back and do the same test with the just the protaper lever, and then just the new springs and see which modification is truly making a difference, or if they are both decreasing the pull by 10%.
You deserve more subs because your helping people out so i am gonna share the vid to my friends around 600 people and then they can share this video. Hope more foks sees this
Cool video thank you, maybe a full loop big enough to go around the bar would give a completely straight pull, may not make much difference but I’m curious.
I really enjoy your videos, nicely laid out. They actually motivate me to get to work on my two yz250's. I've got an 04 steel frame and 06 aluminum. Love both bikes dearly. Keep up the good work and stay on the pipe!
Did you have any issues getting the yz clutch cable into the pro taper lever? I tried this once with a different after market brand and it didn't fit. Having the metal quick adjuster is definitely way better than the rubber Yamaha stock adjuster. You could also put in 2 or 3 125 springs if you still want a softer pull, would be interesting to see how soft you can go before slipping becomes an issue. I put in 3 wr250f springs on my wr450f and it really helped with now slipping issues. Looking forward to seeing how your bike performs.
There’s an Aussie who does extreme enduro stuff who’s on RUclips here who runs 4 YZ springs and says he has no slipping. Given how good he is I kinda believe him. Oh and no issues no.
did ya lube the cable? they are easier than hydro when lubed properly and all pivot points are cleaned of grit and re-lubed. DO NOT USE YZ250X SPRINGS - just roasted a set today doing hard enduro on yz250x 2017. Stock YZ are back in, had to install on the trail.
There are 2 pivot points: first is on the lever (where almost no dust is found), the other is where the cable is attached, just at the spring., wich is cleaned every time you ride. With a new cable installed, the pull is the same and I believe it's hard. I can drive my 1090R double as long without arm fatige. If I misunderstood you, please point out where I should clean en lube, thanks!
i have read about cutting the actuator arm near where the cable joins - make the arm 1-2mm longer weld back together Not sure how much % it would change it but all makes a difference
Great question. Brand new cable and freshly lubed. Total cost for the springs and bolts was $29 the Profile Clutch assembly was 62.99 so roughly $91 total while the Magura can be had for about $250.
Hydro clutch is overrated and overpriced at about $250. Search "easy clutch adapter" on ebay. Gives same effect for under $20. And yes, i have personally used both.
@@Distracted_driving_kills I typed what you said, I don't find what you mean :) Would you be so kind? If my arm wasn't pumped up this much I would give you 2 thumbs up instaed of 1 :D
brwi1 O M G ... I assumed I just listed the wrong part numbers... nope, just verified through my old order. FML. Supplementary video SOON. PS THANK YOU Apparently the newer YZ springs are lighter now than they were in 2002... uhhggg. This sucks.
brwi1 yeah I’m curious to see if it’s better with the real X springs as well. Thanks again! i ordered the correct stuff and I’ll supplement this video or release with some additional info or something along those lines. So much free time on my hands right now. 🤮
This build series is honestly the best!!! I think you’re going to love this yz more than the beta
Thanks man, but I don’t know about all that, I’m fumbling my way through it though!
I HOPE I love this bike! It’s looking pretty awesome, it might be the worst thing ever on the trails though, 😆.
This Mountain Life everyone I’ve ever seen build one says it’s the best bike out but you’ll miss e start but that’s it
@@Lostonabike I know I'll miss the e-start for sure! Technology has made me soft.
panthera makes an electric start for the yz. It would cost half of what i paid for my yz though.
I liked the testing and seeing that percentage change! Going to definitely look into doing that for my yz250 when I start building it up!
Thanks bud, No guarantee on the accuracy of the science though!
From someone dealing with a hard clutch pull right now on a yz250, I appreciate this video. Definitely gunna order this up. I’ve also done a new cable and I oil it frequently. I did the basket first as you did lol.
It helps! It’s funny, I’m on a yz250fx sometimes now and it’s the easiest pull ever. Still a cable clutch in 2024.
Came across this video on my hunt for an easier clutch pull. Purchased a new 450FX this last spring and been riding some very technical single tracks. This was a compromise type purchase as I sold a CRF450 and a KTM 300 to get one bike to do it all. But lately after each ride I am getting some serious joint and hand pain. So the time has come. I appreciate the time you took to log the differences. Been looking at ASV lever/perch, clutch springs and going hydro. Definitely an investment. Just wanted to say thanks for the content!
You bet! I wouldn’t be afraid to yank a couple springs out of the clutch pack and see how it goes (unless it has like 4 springs already). That might sound like sacrilege to some though. People do it on YZ250s but they’re very secretive about it. 😂 even if it led to more clutch wear, it’s such a cheap and easy replacement. I’m fool of terrible ideas though. 😆
I'm getting pretty serious arm pump from my TE510. Might be time to start looking for any alternative springs and a new lever because -20% sounds fantastic to me.
Simple, straight forward information. Thanks
you bet
I just replaced my rear sprocket and the bolts were all individualy wrapped. I thought the same thing, what a pain to open each one! What's the big crescent wrench on the peg board for?
I used the crescent wrench to bend the frame on an old FJ60 back to straight. Now it’s mostly decoration.
This was an awesome test with really interesting results. I think you should go back and do the same test with the just the protaper lever, and then just the new springs and see which modification is truly making a difference, or if they are both decreasing the pull by 10%.
I also building my yz250 to a woods bike. Thinking of adding more washer to the clutch springs to make it easier to pull
Thanks for tips !
I have a 2016 yz 250 that I making mods for enduro/trail & it’s tiring using just 2 fingers
You deserve more subs because your helping people out so i am gonna share the vid to my friends around 600 people and then they can share this video. Hope more foks sees this
What!? Thanks buddy, I appreciate it! 🙏
This Mountain Life sorry i mean i’m a BIG fan
This Mountain Life i’m watching your KTM 85 videos over and over because i have one now.
SmekStake congratulations, they’re great bikes!
Cool video thank you, maybe a full loop big enough to go around the bar would give a completely straight pull, may not make much difference but I’m curious.
Nice, loving the Science, Subscribed.
I really enjoy your videos, nicely laid out. They actually motivate me to get to work on my two yz250's. I've got an 04 steel frame and 06 aluminum. Love both bikes dearly. Keep up the good work and stay on the pipe!
Chad thanks buddy, it’s still a work in progress on my end.
Did you have any issues getting the yz clutch cable into the pro taper lever? I tried this once with a different after market brand and it didn't fit. Having the metal quick adjuster is definitely way better than the rubber Yamaha stock adjuster. You could also put in 2 or 3 125 springs if you still want a softer pull, would be interesting to see how soft you can go before slipping becomes an issue. I put in 3 wr250f springs on my wr450f and it really helped with now slipping issues. Looking forward to seeing how your bike performs.
There’s an Aussie who does extreme enduro stuff who’s on RUclips here who runs 4 YZ springs and says he has no slipping. Given how good he is I kinda believe him.
Oh and no issues no.
@@PlushEnduro I think I might give that a shot and see what happens.
Report back! I’m curious as well.
@@nvmcrider8475 So how went that test?
@@PlushEnduro Can i find him on youtube?
You got me with the maybe I’m just a bitch comment. Im starting to think the same thing about me😭
did ya lube the cable? they are easier than hydro when lubed properly and all pivot points are cleaned of grit and re-lubed.
DO NOT USE YZ250X SPRINGS - just roasted a set today doing hard enduro on yz250x 2017. Stock YZ are back in, had to install on the trail.
There are 2 pivot points: first is on the lever (where almost no dust is found), the other is where the cable is attached, just at the spring., wich is cleaned every time you ride. With a new cable installed, the pull is the same and I believe it's hard. I can drive my 1090R double as long without arm fatige. If I misunderstood you, please point out where I should clean en lube, thanks!
Very informative 🏁👍 thank you
i have read about cutting the actuator arm near where the cable joins - make the arm 1-2mm longer weld back together
Not sure how much % it would change it but all makes a difference
I have a welder (I suck at welding). I could give it a go maybe? I wonder how much that would lengthen the clutch pull though.
I did this on my old 450. It works. And it is noticable. But not dramatic.
@@PlushEnduro im not sure maybe 4mm on lever? but it would increase the abilitly to feather the clutch instead of being so on or off i reckon
Hmm... maybe I’ll give it a go then.
Nice vid just finished a restyle on my 2001 YZ250
Definitely makes the bike 1000x more aesthetically pleasing.
i wonder if you did the 250x springs but took one out?
Check out Liam Heinzel’s channel. I think he runs his YZ with 2 removed. his skills on that thing are ridiculous.
So what was the total spent vs getting a hydro clutch for it? Also did you lube the cable before the test?
Great question. Brand new cable and freshly lubed. Total cost for the springs and bolts was $29 the Profile Clutch assembly was 62.99 so roughly $91 total while the Magura can be had for about $250.
Hydro clutch is overrated and overpriced at about $250. Search "easy clutch adapter" on ebay. Gives same effect for under $20.
And yes, i have personally used both.
@@Distracted_driving_kills I typed what you said, I don't find what you mean :) Would you be so kind? If my arm wasn't pumped up this much I would give you 2 thumbs up instaed of 1 :D
Spent $200 for magura hydro. Run the stiffer springs softer than ktm.
Get venhill or motion pro clutchcable and a ptfe lube.
are you sure you got the springs for the X? The part numbers you listed are for a standard yz250
brwi1 O M G ... I assumed I just listed the wrong part numbers... nope, just verified through my old order. FML. Supplementary video SOON.
PS THANK YOU
Apparently the newer YZ springs are lighter now than they were in 2002... uhhggg. This sucks.
This Mountain Life dang that does suck. But I look forward to hearing your thoughts! Was considering doing it this mod myself.
brwi1 yeah I’m curious to see if it’s better with the real X springs as well. Thanks again! i ordered the correct stuff and I’ll supplement this video or release with some additional info or something along those lines. So much free time on my hands right now. 🤮
Interesting,if dere is no quartly improvement,then definately 5th portion bkums lifesaver
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