Thank you for clarifying about the firmware update for the 990 I was skeptical on getting it because of hearing that problem and I’m glad it was fixed and will now be making my purchase
Same here - was hearing about problems but then heard about firmware update. Bought this stick a couple months ago with a 40GBs ORICO enclosure. Have been thrilled with the performance. Mind-blowing for an external drive on my 24" iMac.
Hey I’m so excited and thankful to be the fan giveway winner of one of the nas storage cases you have behind you! Anyone will do, thank you sooo much NasCompares!
....having both the 990 Pro and the T700 Pro from crucial on PCI Gen5 with a 7800X3D, the T700 Pro gives me 11,080 MB/s in sequential writing while the 990 pro only 7,400 MB/s. The difference is very noticeable while launching games such as MS FS2020 but not really in other applications.
I have chosen to avoid gen5 nvme drives purely because they run so bloody hot and require active cooling, not to mention the early adopter tax for crash test dummies. For myself reliability and endurance are my main points of interest and don't see any practical reason to "upgrade" from 5000-7000 MB/s gen4 2tb for OS and games and gen3/4 3000-4000 MB/s for my quick mass storage. Spinning rust is fine for my NAS and slow system storage needs where again i want reliablity and endurance even if i have to use slower spinning disks.
Good decision. Unless you absolutely need the speeds, ie your work requires large file transfers and it would save time then go with the latest. Otherwise even gen 3 is fast enough for games. Games simply dont utilize nvme ssd speeds bar few games. Direct storage still isnt adopted for some reason.
Got the 2T 990 Pro for $110. 980 Pro just isn’t worth it for the price it’s going right now unless you just really don’t trust the newer version’s durability.
In Canada the 1TB version of the 980 pro has often been going for 80 CAD, and the 990 has been going for 100 CAD. For the 2TB versions, it's been 140 and 160 (which is proportionally less of a price difference), and the models with heat sinks were all available for 10 CAD more. All of these prices were very good, but for a 1TB drive, I don't think the 990 pro was worth an extra 25% Now, if you were putting together a new system, and you were planning to install the OS onto the NVMe SSD, or if you are buying the drive for a laptop, I'd probably recommend going with 2TB over 1TB, but I already have my OS installed on an older SSD, and have no plans to migrate the install to the NVMe drive, and I also have a ton of space on mechanical drives in my system, so didn't want to pay the extra for a 2TB drive. Also, I have my OS installed on a drive which has advanced power loss protection, making it safer to leave the OS on that drive.
Between the 980 and 990, maybe. Even between those two I’d imagine the speed to copy large files onto and off of the drives have a difference. Samsung states 40%+ speeds.
does it make sense to get 990 Pro for PCIe 3.0 x4 slot in a server/nas with VMs and higher I/O? small blocks random read/writes shouldn't be bottlenecked there, but will its performance at such uses remain maximum? or would dedicated server-grade SSDs justify their higher costs in that regard?
Thats what i was thinking. Why buy pcie 3.0 gen 3 ssd, when prie gen 4.0 ssd will probably be faster even if its limited to gen 3.0 speeds and cost same or less. The IOPS should still be higher since it's the stuff that happens on the ssd and theres no way some random iops can saturate the entire pcie 3.0 bus, those random reads dont go into multiple GB/s range, ever. I'm not sure though could be wrong. Old anantech article shows 980 pro ssd having almost identical performance on prie 3.0 and 4.0. 4.0 being slight faster but less power efficient. The difference though is that 990 pro has 400k more IOPS vs 980 pro at 16 thread 32 qdepth operations. But identical 1 thread 1qdepth operations whatever that means.
This video is so informative and so helpful, thank you so much for explaining it so clearly and being engaging while doing it. Your speaking cadence is very easy to listen to. Cheers!
Is there a manufacture date after which I can be certain the 990 Pro has the updated firmware? Buying as a gift for PS5 and neither the recipient nor I currently own a personal PC on which we could check or update the firmware. Thank you.
The spec durability is what is warrantied, but what is the actual durability? They will last longer than their spec, but how much longer? 20%? 100%? 5000%?
I just bought the 4TB Version of the 990, main reason are the iops. Drive feels way snappier than my 980 Pro and I will probably switch out all my 980 against the 990.
@LeCrackDeStalingrad yea, it's my main os drive but to be honest I'd rather wait to see if Samsung somehow fixed the wear issue with the 990 series because the 1 and 2 tb has issues with outwearing faster that then the tbw Samsung says. If you can wait do so for another 2-3 month because the drive is still too new to say. I have the wear issue with both 1-2 tb drives and can't say much about the 4TB drive right now.
I really doubt that any NAS running a Celeron and pcie gen 3 will really take full advantage of either one of these drives. In my option write life is more important then speed. Most people don't have a network and or workstation fast enough to really notice the difference. Even the slowest nvme pcie 3 drive is faster then any HDD.
I have question why the read is just at 7050 mb/s and under that is at 4200-4700/mb s are this normal? Owh are writeable size is just 838 Gb for 1 tb size? Thx
Wonderful video!!!!!!!!… PLEEEEASEEEE, make a head to head between the 990 Pro with heatsink vs Seagate Firecuda 530 with heatsink. I want a 2TB SSD for my new PS5.
I would say If you want more capacity go for the cheaper 980 However if you want more speed then go for 990 (which only case should be for OS, 980 is plenty for games cmon)
Iv purchased 2 for ps5s the 2tb 990 pro will arive tommorow could mine still have the issues iv just read about online il check any dates or info on packaging when recieved bit worried now
Bro im in that same dilemma. Thinking I might get the 980 pro 2tb w/ heatsink. 990's dont have heatsink and I dont really think the difference is gonna be that huge.
right so has the firm ware been sorted yes or no if i buy one will i be safe as long as i make sure i update firm ware using wizard strait answer please
Hdds are cheaper because they're 10x slower, cause more heat and are a lot more likely to die out, I'm surprised they're not fully phased out by now but it looks like that's what's coming soon
@@InsaneVRGamer A standard HDD will read and write at typically 80MB/s to 160MB/s, but an SSD reads and writes at between 200MB/s to 560MB/s, any SSD today is going to be under 500
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You know in these videos no one ever shows what these ssd upgrades do lmao we just see numbers. Is it all a scam or what is it suppose to do better in reality where can we use it and see what it does lol no one does those videos tho
When I installed a 970 to replace my hard drives, the difference was white and black. Windows would easily take 30 minutes to boot, but the 970 brought it down to well under 1 minute. Upgrading to a 990 soon because it was on sale, and I need the 970 for a separate PC build, so I suppose I'll see.
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Thank you for clarifying about the firmware update for the 990 I was skeptical on getting it because of hearing that problem and I’m glad it was fixed and will now be making my purchase
Same here - was hearing about problems but then heard about firmware update. Bought this stick a couple months ago with a 40GBs ORICO enclosure. Have been thrilled with the performance. Mind-blowing for an external drive on my 24" iMac.
Hey I’m so excited and thankful to be the fan giveway winner of one of the nas storage cases you have behind you! Anyone will do, thank you sooo much NasCompares!
$100 for the 2Tb on amazon right now
I scored this deal...kinda feel like I'm stealing it at that price
Not anymore
@alejandrotohas it gone down because im getting one if christmas time is having sales for some bienne8220
....having both the 990 Pro and the T700 Pro from crucial on PCI Gen5 with a 7800X3D, the T700 Pro gives me 11,080 MB/s in sequential writing while the 990 pro only 7,400 MB/s. The difference is very noticeable while launching games such as MS FS2020 but not really in other applications.
I have chosen to avoid gen5 nvme drives purely because they run so bloody hot and require active cooling, not to mention the early adopter tax for crash test dummies. For myself reliability and endurance are my main points of interest and don't see any practical reason to "upgrade" from 5000-7000 MB/s gen4 2tb for OS and games and gen3/4 3000-4000 MB/s for my quick mass storage. Spinning rust is fine for my NAS and slow system storage needs where again i want reliablity and endurance even if i have to use slower spinning disks.
Good decision. Unless you absolutely need the speeds, ie your work requires large file transfers and it would save time then go with the latest. Otherwise even gen 3 is fast enough for games. Games simply dont utilize nvme ssd speeds bar few games. Direct storage still isnt adopted for some reason.
Got the 2T 990 Pro for $110. 980 Pro just isn’t worth it for the price it’s going right now unless you just really don’t trust the newer version’s durability.
In Canada the 1TB version of the 980 pro has often been going for 80 CAD, and the 990 has been going for 100 CAD. For the 2TB versions, it's been 140 and 160 (which is proportionally less of a price difference), and the models with heat sinks were all available for 10 CAD more. All of these prices were very good, but for a 1TB drive, I don't think the 990 pro was worth an extra 25%
Now, if you were putting together a new system, and you were planning to install the OS onto the NVMe SSD, or if you are buying the drive for a laptop, I'd probably recommend going with 2TB over 1TB, but I already have my OS installed on an older SSD, and have no plans to migrate the install to the NVMe drive, and I also have a ton of space on mechanical drives in my system, so didn't want to pay the extra for a 2TB drive. Also, I have my OS installed on a drive which has advanced power loss protection, making it safer to leave the OS on that drive.
even in the most demanding games, you will only see a 1 second difference in load times.
Coming from a 2.5 Sata, 1 sec still?
Between the 980 and 990, maybe. Even between those two I’d imagine the speed to copy large files onto and off of the drives have a difference. Samsung states 40%+ speeds.
Fantastic breakdown bud. I just installed a 990 Pro in my PC tonight. Looking forward to the blazing fast speeds. 👍
does it make sense to get 990 Pro for PCIe 3.0 x4 slot in a server/nas with VMs and higher I/O? small blocks random read/writes shouldn't be bottlenecked there, but will its performance at such uses remain maximum? or would dedicated server-grade SSDs justify their higher costs in that regard?
yes... since when you later upgrade to gen4...also the 990 can be had less expensive than the 980.
Thats what i was thinking. Why buy pcie 3.0 gen 3 ssd, when prie gen 4.0 ssd will probably be faster even if its limited to gen 3.0 speeds and cost same or less. The IOPS should still be higher since it's the stuff that happens on the ssd and theres no way some random iops can saturate the entire pcie 3.0 bus, those random reads dont go into multiple GB/s range, ever. I'm not sure though could be wrong. Old anantech article shows 980 pro ssd having almost identical performance on prie 3.0 and 4.0. 4.0 being slight faster but less power efficient. The difference though is that 990 pro has 400k more IOPS vs 980 pro at 16 thread 32 qdepth operations. But identical 1 thread 1qdepth operations whatever that means.
@@AndytlpYeah no point in going for Gen 3 if it’s the same price as Gen 4.
@@ZackSNetwork Yes my future upgrade path is zen 5 next year so mobo will be changed and it'll have its pcie 4.0
This video is so informative and so helpful, thank you so much for explaining it so clearly and being engaging while doing it. Your speaking cadence is very easy to listen to. Cheers!
Is there a manufacture date after which I can be certain the 990 Pro has the updated firmware? Buying as a gift for PS5 and neither the recipient nor I currently own a personal PC on which we could check or update the firmware. Thank you.
did you know?
Just built a system with a 990 Pro and it's working right at spec, measured MB/s 7460 read and 6906 write. Recommended.
The spec durability is what is warrantied, but what is the actual durability? They will last longer than their spec, but how much longer? 20%? 100%? 5000%?
I just bought the 4TB Version of the 990, main reason are the iops. Drive feels way snappier than my 980 Pro and I will probably switch out all my 980 against the 990.
Is it your main drive where Windows is installed ? Because I'm interested in replacing my 2 TB 980 Pro
@LeCrackDeStalingrad yea, it's my main os drive but to be honest I'd rather wait to see if Samsung somehow fixed the wear issue with the 990 series because the 1 and 2 tb has issues with outwearing faster that then the tbw Samsung says. If you can wait do so for another 2-3 month because the drive is still too new to say. I have the wear issue with both 1-2 tb drives and can't say much about the 4TB drive right now.
@@r0tb3rt If I'm not mistaken, the issue has been resolved by a firmware update
I really doubt that any NAS running a Celeron and pcie gen 3 will really take full advantage of either one of these drives. In my option write life is more important then speed. Most people don't have a network and or workstation fast enough to really notice the difference. Even the slowest nvme pcie 3 drive is faster then any HDD.
I have question why the read is just at 7050 mb/s and under that is at 4200-4700/mb s are this normal? Owh are writeable size is just 838 Gb for 1 tb size? Thx
This is a topic that I wanted to see!!
I’m assuming it doesn’t really matter which one you get for ps5 tho, correct?
And … finish the video before commenting lol. Thank you for the video as always.
Wonderful video!!!!!!!!… PLEEEEASEEEE, make a head to head between the 990 Pro with heatsink vs Seagate Firecuda 530 with heatsink. I want a 2TB SSD for my new PS5.
i run three time magician test it come up 78c i tear down my 4 tb nothing in the heatsink if i where you stay away from samsung
Do you Know any places where you can get a nas motherboard repaired I have a WD ex4100?
I would say If you want more capacity go for the cheaper 980
However if you want more speed then go for 990 (which only case should be for OS, 980 is plenty for games cmon)
Iv purchased 2 for ps5s the 2tb 990 pro will arive tommorow could mine still have the issues iv just read about online il check any dates or info on packaging when recieved bit worried now
All i care is heat emit , how much is the heat emit on both ????
Should I get the 980 pro 2tb with heat sink or 2tb 990 pro for my PS5 with the 980pro 2tb cheaper right now?
Bro im in that same dilemma. Thinking I might get the 980 pro 2tb w/ heatsink. 990's dont have heatsink and I dont really think the difference is gonna be that huge.
@@saimanwar7756990 pro does have a heat sink model. Right now I found the 990 pro with heat sink for 112.99 and with 2tb
@@jayyqnillawhat company / website???? Would appreciate it
You want the heat sink or kiss your console goodbye
right so has the firm ware been sorted yes or no if i buy one will i be safe as long as i make sure i update firm ware using wizard strait answer please
Yes, current firmware seems to be safe
it's kinda weird... but last I checked 5000MB/s was 10 times more than "half a gig".
Gigabyte?
My 980 has been in a state of imminent complete failure for almost 14 months?
Check the firmware version. Older versions (I think version 3) will eventually cause the drive to go into read-only mode.
How do you update the firmware if used in a ps5?
Good question
Go to the part of the video where he talkes about firmware
SN850X 2TB only 99 bucks let’s go!!!
Well... my 980 Pro just died while inside PS5 😢
Bought the 990 pro yesterday
planning in buying one.. how does it feels like 3 months of use?
Bought one for my pc build its amazing never downloaded things so fast before
HAH the seagull in the background. 🙂
He has a problem with them flying in to steal his lunch.
l had just Samsung 990 PRO 2TB PCIe 4.0
Its better than 980 pro ??
980 pro 1Tb 49$ 💪
Where did you find for that price ?
@@XMS1212X 990 pro 2TB $99 on Amazon right now
but compared to hdd price per tb, nvme is still a scam XD
Yes, price wise HDDs win..but it's hardly a scam...
Hdds are cheaper because they're 10x slower, cause more heat and are a lot more likely to die out, I'm surprised they're not fully phased out by now but it looks like that's what's coming soon
@@josephhall7317 they are not 10x slower lol
@@InsaneVRGamer A standard HDD will read and write at typically 80MB/s to 160MB/s, but an SSD reads and writes at between 200MB/s to 560MB/s, any SSD today is going to be under 500
@@InsaneVRGamer here's another simple Google, A solid state drive reads up to 10 times faster and writes up to 20 times faster than a hard disk drive.
Will either one of these work with my pc?
Lenovo - Legion Tower 5i Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i5-12400 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 - 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD - Black
Model:90SU000RUS SKU:6501813
You know in these videos no one ever shows what these ssd upgrades do lmao we just see numbers. Is it all a scam or what is it suppose to do better in reality where can we use it and see what it does lol no one does those videos tho
When I installed a 970 to replace my hard drives, the difference was white and black. Windows would easily take 30 minutes to boot, but the 970 brought it down to well under 1 minute. Upgrading to a 990 soon because it was on sale, and I need the 970 for a separate PC build, so I suppose I'll see.