It’s so good of you to share your knowledge, knowing that you are going to help many that are hungry and willing to put forth the effort to achieve a higher level, must be very fulfilling. You’re a good good dude
Thanks so much Joe! Definitely fulfilling knowing its helping aspiring guitarists and especially when I receive nice feedback like this! Really appreciate it and hope I can continue to help out…
Congratulations on an excellent tutorial. I think you are an excellent teacher. Picado apoyando is good, but not resting the thumb an letting it float allows the fingers to maintain the angle to the strings for a smoother transition from string to string. The latter also allows the "p" to strike a base note during the run as in the end of Panaderos. Both approaches have their merit. I would be very interested in your thoughts about the value of three finger picado, specifically i-a-m, i-a.m (triplets) that overcomes the need to cross alternating fingers in some scales, such as in Fandangos de Huelva.
Thanks for the feedback! So yes, I agree there are merits to both those approaches. But as the majority of Flamenco players use the anchored thumb approach, that’s the way I was taught. On the flip side, I have used the floating thumb approach on a few pieces where the context forces you to use that method. It’s just not my go-to for typical runs or scale style phrases. But definitely nothing wrong with it! There’s some phenomenal players that I admire, usually more classical based, that rip away so smoothly and fast with that method. In the end it’s about either learning both or choosing the one that feels good to you. Same for the three finger picados. There are some maestros like Grisha or Javier Conde(I think) that use that as one of their picado vehicles. I’ve tried it in exercises fashion, for technique practice, but for me personally, to use it in real life just felt more confusing and unnatural. For me two fingers feels as natural as walking. I’m not use to walking with three legs 🦵🏼 😉
Great! Glad I can help. And just remember, some players do prefer to also keep the thumb free and not leaning against the wood. But I find this method helpful, just as most of the players I’ve learned from like this method.
Thanks so much for your nice feedback! Glad you enjoyed it. I don’t plan on stopping. 🙂 You can look for a new weekly lesson every weekend and also a live session on Sundays at Noon. If you have any specific questions, please let me know, and I’ll try to cover it in a video or live session. Cheers!
The nails are getting into my way. Should I shorten them or do I need to adjust my hand's angle? Is the hand position different from the way we are doing free strokes?
It’s hard to tell without seeing your exact nails and hand position. But generally speaking, too long nails can get in the way for picado. I like to make sure I’m playing from the left corner of the fingers and that I’m able to get some flesh and nail. If they’re too long, you should be able to tell. In terms of position, for free stroke, the knuckles are generally a little lower, nothing drastic, but a slight different angle. I should make a video on this subtle difference between positions…
How well would you say this technique transfers to electric guitar? I find the thinner steel strings snag a bit, but I perform solo jazz and would like to be able to apply this technique to single-note melodies.
I’ve seen everything done lol So sure it’s possible. For me personally, being so use to doing this on thicker nylon strings and the different action and guitar set up from a Spanish guitar, it didn’t flow well for me. But that said, I didn’t explore it more since that wasn’t my goal. I think your attack has to be even lighter and more precise so that you don’t get snagged on the strings. For fingerstyle jazz on an electric, Id also experiment with free strokes picking which I see more hybrid players using on electric. Free stoke position seems to flow better when you’re playing a lot of chord melody, so that you can more easily play chords in between. Sorry I can’t be of great help on this one, just my personal take.
Hi Paul! You should be able to start with either finger, I or M, especially when it’s not pre-planned, you should have the agility to start with either. When you’re learning a piece and can plan it out, choose the finger that feels best to start. Usually it’s best to start with the finger that will give you the best natural position for the start if you’re crossing strings. For example if your first note is on the second string and then next note is the on first string, then picado would start with index more most likely and be more comfortable. Hope that helps. 👍🏼
@@DavidChiriboga Hi David, thanks for the reply. I have played with muddles picado for 30 years and now see it is why I am not progressing. I can't seem to get the alternation automatic. I find I am very often repeating i or m when crossing strings espeacially... I mean I sit for 10 mins playing 4 notes and just can't seem to get it right automatically.. have you ever seen this depth of ingrained bad technique before.. I just don't know how I will do it correctly. I don't think it is practical to learn all my pieces note as well as which right hand finger to use.. that would be monumental task.
David, thank you for this lesson very practical and helpful. I’ve seen some flaminco guitar players use three fingers when playing Picado, you use two, is one way better than the other? And why?
Hey James! Thanks 👌🏼So I would say about 98% of Flamenco guitarists do picado with the standard two finger picado. The three finger picado is more of a specialty thing I’ve seen a few players do. Some players use it only for exercises to help with finger independence and not depend on the two standard fingers (I & M). Some will also practice exercises with the I & A or M & A. I think Grisha Goryachev likes doing the three finger version on occasion, but not as his main one… So, if you’re curious about pursuing it, I’d say you can introduce it as an exercise first and experiment with it very slowly to start. But the main thing is to master the two finger version first. Especially when crossing from string to string, the three finger will be much more challenging than the two finger version.
Hi David would you be able to teach Fuego Logo even if it's just some of the links that would be awesome. I can figure out some of the sinle notes but adding to it I'm not sure
I was searching for some time to find out what this style was. I think you have it 'Picado', after hearing the Elvis song 'We'll Be Together'. The opening guitar is very fast and I think it's picado. Do you know what chords are played to get that sound? Thanks for the great lesson.
Glad you enjoyed the lesson and found this technique. I havnt heard that specific Elvis song. Not sure if he or his musicians fingerpicked with this technique, I don’t think it’s likely… but who knows, I’d have to check it out….
@@DavidChiriboga Please do. I would like someone to analyse and explain it. Was wondering for some years and still don't know, until I had the idea that a spanish guitarist might know on YT. 'We'll Be Together' by Elvis 1962.
Thanks so much! Appreciate the nice feedback! Hope you find the other lessons helpful as well. And please feel free to let me know of other lessons you’d like to see more of...
Thanks so much! So it depends on what you’d like to play and what level you’re at. For Flamenco pieces, Sevillanas for beginners are good short practice pieces that use a lot of picado. I like using those for picado practice. Otherwise for rumbas, you can try some gipsy kings instrumentals like Alegria or Pharaon. So just depends
I don't know if this is common but do you have any tips if your fingernail gets "caught" on the string when transferring to different strings playing picado?
Hi! Without exactly seeing your nails or how you’re playing, I could only assume a couple things. Either your nails can be too long. Or if not too long, the shape can be snagging the string. I like to personally make sure my corners are a bit round to avoid getting caught in a corner, and I also file my nails on a 45 degree angle so that the string can slide off. Feel free to check out my nail care video incase that helps... Lastly, in regards to form, if you were approaching the string from too underneath, that can be an issue. Sorry I can’t be more precise without seeing it.
So the way I show in the video is pretty standard, as picado is also called “apoyando”(pushing/resting) on the next string. While this is standard, I’ve seen players that bounce off the string quicker and it works for them. But I would suggest if you’re a beginner and just learning this, to try resting. Or if you do not have good results without resting; then try it, test it out for at least a month. Otherwise if the other way works for you, then go with that.
I have been practising picado for some time now,thanks to you my fingers are really moving fast now but I have a doubt. If I am playing three notes on one string For eg:- If I am playing three notes on the G string and I have to move to the first string then do I have to play that string with my middle finger because you can't repeat a finger( the pattern will be I M I(G string) and then M on the first string) or I can use index finger on the first string because it's a different string? In the following cases:- 1) I M I (e string) to ?(D string) 2)I M I M I(E string) to ?(G string) When there are big leaps like these.
So in general for a situation like this, I would personally still stick to alternating the fingers consistently. So yes, the M finger would strike the high E string coming from the G string IMI. It would be harder to jump with the same finger for me. Very very few times, because of the context of a piece, I may do a repeat. But see what makes sense to the piece for you.
@@DavidChiriboga thanks for replying man❤️❤️❤️ I also play it with my M finger but will I be able to do that without thinking with fluidity with enough practice?like playing fast lines with big leaps.
David: A very thorough presentation, Sir. :) As you are aware, many classical players have "longer" nails, to be sure. As such, playing rest can sometimes be a little more 'challenging" with really long nails because with longer nails, it is more difficult to play faster, because the longer nails create a longer :"resistance" to the adjacent string. Therefore, I have a question. In Flamenco guitar, is it better to use considerably shorter nails to that with picado, the flesh of the finger pad traverses ONLY a much shorter length ? Thank you for your help. :) Antoine
Hi Antoine! So you might see the slightly longer nails on some classical players, but that’s not always necessarily true. I can just speak from pets on l experience and learnings from my maestros. I learned a while back that the longer nails are such a hinderance for many of the techniques, or even for achieving a nice fleshy golpe sound when desired. So I went shorter. They still do the job, but now they don’t get in the way or add delay to picado. I agree, long nails with picado can be tricky, and adds time to the strokes. So in answer, yes, I like feeling the flesh and having it roll off the left corner of my nails. That’s what feels good and efficient to me, and I like the sound.
@@DavidChiriboga I thought so. :) There is no disputing that in Flamenco OR Classical, shorter nails DO allow someone to play faster. Sextuplet arpeggios, tremolos, two, three finger scales, etc. With longer nails, it is just easier to keep the right hand a little further from the guitar. You will be pleased to know that THE ISSUE is that we were taught in university 40 years ago, that although classical guitar "is what it is".....the reality also is that the Flamenco players WERE ALWAYS better technicians than the classical players ! :) :) That is why I asked my original question. Thank you for your help. :)
Hi! Hard to exactly say, depends on the flamenco style or piece, but I would say the goal is ideally to reach a nice and clean 130-150bpm for the majority of themes. Obviously, no limits can be put on speed, if we can cleanly surpass 150 and higher, great, but just giving my thoughts on playing a decent speed range for playing many styles within flamenco. Hope that answers your question and makes sense 👍🏼🙂
@@DavidChiriboga Thank you so much for your response. Yeah makes sense. Just a quick follow up question. I have been practicing recuerdos de la alhambra. My plan is to get up to 130 -150 tremolo. Will that be of any help when I transition to flamenco guitar?
Sure, definitely will be of help for adjusting to the flamenco tremolo or just general finger dexterity which will help you transition more easily. In terms of picado/restroke, it may help to prepare for speed, but remember rest stroke is another animal from free stroke. So you’ll still have to re-adjust/learn the technique of rest stroke picking and start much slower.
@@DavidChiriboga When you learn new technique such as picado what would be a good time (realistic time frame) to get from 100 bpm quarter notes to 150 bpm 16th notes? That is a really interesting question.
Thanks, glad you found it helpful! So it all depends of course. But if you’re putting in some consisten focused practice, usually within a couple months you can get some decent finger dexterity and motion going. With any of these techniques, I think that’s true to start off, but the actually growth and development takes longer of course.
Hey!! You re amazing I am starting to learn flamenco guitar and I have a question on your tutorial: at 3:46 when you start playing 4 time at each string isn’t it supposed at the 3rd play the finger to rest on the string above and not get lifted up then for moments of second both fingers are laying on the string above and you lift the one you don’t play?
Hey! Thanks for the feedback. I’m sorry I don’t completely understand your question. I checked the video at that moment and didn’t see anything that caught my attention. If I laid both fingers on a string at the same time, that was just a small error. I make mistakes too lol 😉 Like mentioned in the video, the idea is to always alternate and take a quick rest on the higher string. Sorry if I couldn’t answer your question exactly.
It’s hard to remember exactly. But generally speaking, this this technique, along with a few of the others, can start to flourish nicely within the first few months of dedicated practice. But to really see it get to that next level takes time to develop. If you’ve never used it, I would say it can take up to a year to really start seeing those type of higher level results. Everybody’s different, but this is what I’ve typically seen through many of my students. The key is to always focus on the proper form(small movement) and sound, and then the speed will naturally come!
Thanks for your fast answer man. I barely watched every picado video on RUclips and many people have their own technique which they mean is the right one. So it's really hard to adapt. I don't have problems with alternate picking and those things but to crash through the speed wall. Its getting me really angry sometimes. Anyway your video helped me a bit. Thanks for your work.
No problem... Yea, there can be many schools of opinion on how to tackle some techniques. Honestly, if something works for one person, then great, but it may not work for another. So I would never say that one approach is the only approach. My approach is pretty standard in the Flamenco realm. For example, Vicente Amigo, one of Flamenco’s current greats, is know for having some weird hand forms. But since his playing is phenomenal, not much you can say about it lol. Anyway, last thing I would say is to really focus on where your powering your picado from and how much tension there is. For years, at the beginning, I played with too much tension, due to playing in loud places, and it totally slowed me down. I had to learn to relax the fingers and play from the knuckle joint. The tips of the fingers should be very flexible and give in. Hope that helps a bit and prob the best I can describe via chat. Good luck with it!
Thanks it's very clear explanation😊,I would like to know something regarding playing picado technique,can't we play picado fast from a classical guitar like flaminco guitar? Do we need to play it definitely from a flaminco guitar? Bcoz i am from srilanka, in our country very difficult to find flaminco guitars ,I am personally playing classical guitar but I love flaminco music too, I am also trying many lessons from youtube ,it's a great help for me if you can clarify the difference between playing picado technique in classical guitar and flaminco guitar 👍
Thanks for watching and the nice comment! Appreciate it. So the picado technique works perfectly well on a classical, they just call it “rest stroke” technique. Pure Classical guitarists tend to play more free stroke picking than rest stroke, generally. So the short answer, you should be fine learning some flamenco on your classical. Just be careful with golpes/tapping on the top. If you have longer nails, you’ll wear away at the top of the guitar. Let me know if you’d like any particular tutorials I can help out with... 🙂
Thank you very much for your clear explanation,so I should have to practice apoyando stroke to get more clear and stedy picado 😊as you told most of time I am playing with tirando stroke so I will switch in to apoyando stroke when I am trying the flaminco lessons, also I have watched your "Spanish romance" cover with the nice violin collaboration some years ago it was so marvellous 👍👍 👍 thank you for again for your valuable time to doing this lessons ☺
@@DavidChiriboga I could see that happening. I can't let myself get rusty again now that I've committed to this myself lol. And even better than just "not getting rusty" is adding and/or dusting off more skills. :)
weird technique, not at all similar to the flamenco greats. i honestly recommend putting super fast flamenco runners on 0.25 speed and watching what they do. It's the best way to learn.
Sure, slowing down videos and studying technique from someone you admire can be a great tool. But keep in mind that what works for one great player doesn’t always work for others. Paco’s style of picado vs Tomatito vs Vicente Amigo are all different. My style is pretty straight forward, don’t know what you find “weird” about it. I love constructive criticism, but it sounds like you’re an advanced player and you know what you’re doing already. If that’s the case, this video wasn’t made for you. It was made for beginners learning how to pick with the picado technique. Thanks for watching!
Hahaha…. Good eye. I was showing an example of hand position, so not thinking of the priority of alternating at that exact moment. And generally speaking, I do have very small percentage of moments of either repeating fingers by accident or intentionally for a particular phrases. I hope and assume this comment was made in playful joke lol. Because if not, it’s wishful thinking to think any of us are perfect, especially myself.
Why does the tension on the treble strings feel so tight on my guitar..l feel like that’s really hindering my Picado. Also my middle finger is slightly crooked, I get more response time with I and ring finger. I try and practice with both
Hard to know without seeing it, why there’s more tension on the trebles. All I could suggest off hand is to try low tension strings or at least for your trebles. For the picado fingers, there’s nothing wrong with using I and Ring if that works for you. There’s a smaller percentage of guitarists that like to use those fingers with success as well. So that’s ok if that works for you finger structure. So yes, practice a little with both fingerings, however I would decide on one main fingering for performance sakes.
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Picado is my favorite
There's so much passion in it
My favorite way to pick as well!
You have a thoroughness in your explanations that I haven't seen with other flamenco teachers. Thank you, David.
Thanks so much for your nice feedback! Just trying to break it down like I would have liked.
It’s so good of you to share your knowledge, knowing that you are going to help many that are hungry and willing to put forth the effort to achieve a higher level, must be very fulfilling. You’re a good good dude
Thanks so much Joe! Definitely fulfilling knowing its helping aspiring guitarists and especially when I receive nice feedback like this! Really appreciate it and hope I can continue to help out…
Oh my gosh did this for real a bit involved so have to do it many times over I'll stop here for today 3 lessons thanks David 😊
I don't know how to play the guitar but your teaching style is very easy to understand and implement the advice given.
Thanks so much Hara! It’s never too late to learn... 🙂
Perfect Lesson! Thank You!
Great lesson! Thanks
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful 😉
Excellent lesson on picado. Thanks
Thanks so much, glad you found it helpful! Feel free to check out a couple others I have on some exercises for picado. 😉
One of the hardest techniques on guitar, but i will get there, and i love the frick out of it!!!!!!!
Wishing you the best on your journey! I’m still continually trying to improve mine. It’s a life long journey! 😅
@@DavidChiriboga Seriously it is! Good luck to you! We'll be there one day! Just practice, and in time you'll get better.
You are the best, thank you so much ❤️
Congratulations on an excellent tutorial. I think you are an excellent teacher. Picado apoyando is good, but not resting the thumb an letting it float allows the fingers to maintain the angle to the strings for a smoother transition from string to string. The latter also allows the "p" to strike a base note during the run as in the end of Panaderos. Both approaches have their merit.
I would be very interested in your thoughts about the value of three finger picado, specifically i-a-m, i-a.m (triplets) that overcomes the need to cross alternating fingers in some scales, such as in Fandangos de Huelva.
Thanks for the feedback! So yes, I agree there are merits to both those approaches. But as the majority of Flamenco players use the anchored thumb approach, that’s the way I was taught. On the flip side, I have used the floating thumb approach on a few pieces where the context forces you to use that method. It’s just not my go-to for typical runs or scale style phrases. But definitely nothing wrong with it! There’s some phenomenal players that I admire, usually more classical based, that rip away so smoothly and fast with that method.
In the end it’s about either learning both or choosing the one that feels good to you.
Same for the three finger picados. There are some maestros like Grisha or Javier Conde(I think) that use that as one of their picado vehicles. I’ve tried it in exercises fashion, for technique practice, but for me personally, to use it in real life just felt more confusing and unnatural. For me two fingers feels as natural as walking. I’m not use to walking with three legs 🦵🏼 😉
That was straight forward just practice now
Great! 👌🏼
I viewed many RUclips videos to learn it but none helped but when I viewed your video it became a piece of cake
Thank you so much
I’m so glad to hear I was able to make it easy for you! That’s my goal with all of these videos. Thanks for your feedback!
2.35.. now i know what to do with my thumb when i enter the 5/6 string thank you☼
Great! Glad I can help. And just remember, some players do prefer to also keep the thumb free and not leaning against the wood. But I find this method helpful, just as most of the players I’ve learned from like this method.
@@DavidChiriboga i think this is ok, i did it without leaning but this feels better for me☼
Okay, you teach flamenco nice..... please don't stop your good videos after some lessons...
Thanks so much for your nice feedback! Glad you enjoyed it. I don’t plan on stopping. 🙂 You can look for a new weekly lesson every weekend and also a live session on Sundays at Noon. If you have any specific questions, please let me know, and I’ll try to cover it in a video or live session. Cheers!
You great teacher
Thank you! 🙏🏼
Muchos gracias señor
Gracias a ti por verlo!
Best teacher 😍😍😍😍
Thanks man! 🙏🏼
The nails are getting into my way. Should I shorten them or do I need to adjust my hand's angle? Is the hand position different from the way we are doing free strokes?
It’s hard to tell without seeing your exact nails and hand position. But generally speaking, too long nails can get in the way for picado. I like to make sure I’m playing from the left corner of the fingers and that I’m able to get some flesh and nail. If they’re too long, you should be able to tell. In terms of position, for free stroke, the knuckles are generally a little lower, nothing drastic, but a slight different angle. I should make a video on this subtle difference between positions…
♥ thank you so much
You’re welcome! 🙏🏼
How well would you say this technique transfers to electric guitar? I find the thinner steel strings snag a bit, but I perform solo jazz and would like to be able to apply this technique to single-note melodies.
I’ve seen everything done lol So sure it’s possible. For me personally, being so use to doing this on thicker nylon strings and the different action and guitar set up from a Spanish guitar, it didn’t flow well for me. But that said, I didn’t explore it more since that wasn’t my goal. I think your attack has to be even lighter and more precise so that you don’t get snagged on the strings. For fingerstyle jazz on an electric, Id also experiment with free strokes picking which I see more hybrid players using on electric. Free stoke position seems to flow better when you’re playing a lot of chord melody, so that you can more easily play chords in between. Sorry I can’t be of great help on this one, just my personal take.
@@DavidChiriboga I do rely on free strokes, but muting can be difficult using that approach. I just recently started experimenting with fret wraps.
Awesome.
Thank you. Great lesson.
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it helpful!
Only Jesus can teach like this. Thank you Jesus.
My little girls just got an acoustic guitar! This is very helpful and you make it look so easy. :)
Thanks for your kind words! I hope I’m able to help them....Wishing your little girls the best of luck with their new guitar!
which finger should you start a picado with? is it necessary always to start with that finger?
Hi Paul! You should be able to start with either finger, I or M, especially when it’s not pre-planned, you should have the agility to start with either. When you’re learning a piece and can plan it out, choose the finger that feels best to start.
Usually it’s best to start with the finger that will give you the best natural position for the start if you’re crossing strings. For example if your first note is on the second string and then next note is the on first string, then picado would start with index more most likely and be more comfortable. Hope that helps. 👍🏼
@@DavidChiriboga Hi David, thanks for the reply. I have played with muddles picado for 30 years and now see it is why I am not progressing. I can't seem to get the alternation automatic. I find I am very often repeating i or m when crossing strings espeacially... I mean I sit for 10 mins playing 4 notes and just can't seem to get it right automatically.. have you ever seen this depth of ingrained bad technique before.. I just don't know how I will do it correctly. I don't think it is practical to learn all my pieces note as well as which right hand finger to use.. that would be monumental task.
I always like your tutorials... sincerely very useful and easy to follow 👍👍❤❤
Thanks so much for the nice words! Appreciate it. That’s my goal, to break it down and make it easy to understand.
Thank you ❤❤
Thanks so much 🙏🏼❤️🔥
Thanks!
Thanks for watching! 👍🏼
@@DavidChiriboga your most welcome
David, thank you for this lesson very practical and helpful. I’ve seen some flaminco guitar players use three fingers when playing Picado, you use two, is one way better than the other? And why?
Hey James! Thanks 👌🏼So I would say about 98% of Flamenco guitarists do picado with the standard two finger picado. The three finger picado is more of a specialty thing I’ve seen a few players do. Some players use it only for exercises to help with finger independence and not depend on the two standard fingers (I & M). Some will also practice exercises with the I & A or M & A. I think Grisha Goryachev likes doing the three finger version on occasion, but not as his main one… So, if you’re curious about pursuing it, I’d say you can introduce it as an exercise first and experiment with it very slowly to start. But the main thing is to master the two finger version first. Especially when crossing from string to string, the three finger will be much more challenging than the two finger version.
@@DavidChiriboga Thank you David, I will take that to heart and work on what you’ve suggested. I appreciate your wisdom.
Hi David would you be able to teach Fuego Logo even if it's just some of the links that would be awesome. I can figure out some of the sinle notes but adding to it I'm not sure
Sure, hopefully I can get Steve to join me as well. You mean the main melody or the rhythm as well?
@@DavidChiriboga yes that would be really great thanks so much
@@DavidChiriboga funny just as I put this comment hear the song is going through my head
Best well thought, logical and taught beginning intro to Picado out there - well done!
Thanks so much for the nice input! I try my best to break down the techniques to their core mechanics...
Damn man finally some good deep basics... Now I'm getting the hang of it 😍💯
Awesome! Glad it’s helping out!
Hi, What is the guitar you are using?. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Hi, thanks for watching. Hope you found it helpful. 🙂 I’m using a Hermanos Conde (Atocha) Guitar from Spain
I was searching for some time to find out what this style was. I think you have it 'Picado', after hearing the Elvis song 'We'll Be Together'. The opening guitar is very fast and I think it's picado. Do you know what chords are played to get that sound? Thanks for the great lesson.
Glad you enjoyed the lesson and found this technique. I havnt heard that specific Elvis song. Not sure if he or his musicians fingerpicked with this technique, I don’t think it’s likely… but who knows, I’d have to check it out….
@@DavidChiriboga Please do. I would like someone to analyse and explain it. Was wondering for some years and still don't know, until I had the idea that a spanish guitarist might know on YT. 'We'll Be Together' by Elvis 1962.
Awesome teaching style. Very clear, concise, perfect tempo.
Thanks so much! Appreciate the nice feedback! Hope you find the other lessons helpful as well. And please feel free to let me know of other lessons you’d like to see more of...
hey its woking. nice well done.can u recommend me some picado pieces to play
Thanks so much! So it depends on what you’d like to play and what level you’re at. For Flamenco pieces, Sevillanas for beginners are good short practice pieces that use a lot of picado. I like using those for picado practice. Otherwise for rumbas, you can try some gipsy kings instrumentals like Alegria or Pharaon. So just depends
Tnx
Brilliant! thanks,
Thanks so much Tony! Glad I can help. Feel free to comment with any other picado concerns or with any future video requests as well... Thanks again!
nice lesson sir i am from pakistan
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful. Greetings from Chicago, USA!
I don't know if this is common but do you have any tips if your fingernail gets "caught" on the string when transferring to different strings playing picado?
Hi! Without exactly seeing your nails or how you’re playing, I could only assume a couple things. Either your nails can be too long. Or if not too long, the shape can be snagging the string. I like to personally make sure my corners are a bit round to avoid getting caught in a corner, and I also file my nails on a 45 degree angle so that the string can slide off. Feel free to check out my nail care video incase that helps...
Lastly, in regards to form, if you were approaching the string from too underneath, that can be an issue. Sorry I can’t be more precise without seeing it.
hello i don't have the habit of resting my finger after playing a note when doing pikado. is that a problem?
So the way I show in the video is pretty standard, as picado is also called “apoyando”(pushing/resting) on the next string. While this is standard, I’ve seen players that bounce off the string quicker and it works for them. But I would suggest if you’re a beginner and just learning this, to try resting. Or if you do not have good results without resting; then try it, test it out for at least a month. Otherwise if the other way works for you, then go with that.
@@DavidChiriboga okay thank you i will try for one month. Is there any reason that people recommend resting the finger after playing each note?
I have been practising picado for some time now,thanks to you my fingers are really moving fast now but I have a doubt.
If I am playing three notes on one string
For eg:- If I am playing three notes on the G string and I have to move to the first string then do I have to play that string with my middle finger because you can't repeat a finger( the pattern will be I M I(G string) and then M on the first string) or I can use index finger on the first string because it's a different string?
In the following cases:-
1) I M I (e string) to ?(D string)
2)I M I M I(E string) to ?(G string)
When there are big leaps like these.
So in general for a situation like this, I would personally still stick to alternating the fingers consistently. So yes, the M finger would strike the high E string coming from the G string IMI. It would be harder to jump with the same finger for me. Very very few times, because of the context of a piece, I may do a repeat. But see what makes sense to the piece for you.
@@DavidChiriboga thanks for replying man❤️❤️❤️ I also play it with my M finger but will I be able to do that without thinking with fluidity with enough practice?like playing fast lines with big leaps.
Excelente tutorial Brother, saludos desde PERÚ, ud de que País es?
Gracias Luis! Me alegro que te ayude. 👍🏼 Yo soy de familia de Ecuador. Pero estoy en USA. Perú es un lindo pais. Quiero regresar. Saludos!
David: A very thorough presentation, Sir. :) As you are aware, many classical players have "longer" nails, to be sure. As such, playing rest can sometimes be a little more 'challenging" with really long nails because with longer nails, it is more difficult to play faster, because the longer nails create a longer
:"resistance" to the adjacent string.
Therefore, I have a question. In Flamenco guitar, is it better to use considerably shorter nails to that with picado, the flesh of the finger pad traverses ONLY a much shorter length ?
Thank you for your help. :) Antoine
Hi Antoine! So you might see the slightly longer nails on some classical players, but that’s not always necessarily true. I can just speak from pets on l experience and learnings from my maestros. I learned a while back that the longer nails are such a hinderance for many of the techniques, or even for achieving a nice fleshy golpe sound when desired. So I went shorter. They still do the job, but now they don’t get in the way or add delay to picado. I agree, long nails with picado can be tricky, and adds time to the strokes. So in answer, yes, I like feeling the flesh and having it roll off the left corner of my nails. That’s what feels good and efficient to me, and I like the sound.
@@DavidChiriboga I thought so. :) There is no disputing that in Flamenco OR
Classical, shorter nails DO allow someone to play faster. Sextuplet arpeggios, tremolos,
two, three finger scales, etc. With longer nails, it is just easier to keep the right hand a little further from the guitar.
You will be pleased to know that THE ISSUE is that we were taught in university 40 years ago, that although classical guitar "is what it is".....the reality also is that the Flamenco players WERE ALWAYS better technicians than the classical players ! :) :)
That is why I asked my original question. Thank you for your help. :)
Hey :) What would be appropriate speed of picado to master to play flamenco with ease? 150 bpm 16th notes?
Hi! Hard to exactly say, depends on the flamenco style or piece, but I would say the goal is ideally to reach a nice and clean 130-150bpm for the majority of themes. Obviously, no limits can be put on speed, if we can cleanly surpass 150 and higher, great, but just giving my thoughts on playing a decent speed range for playing many styles within flamenco. Hope that answers your question and makes sense 👍🏼🙂
@@DavidChiriboga Thank you so much for your response. Yeah makes sense. Just a quick follow up question. I have been practicing recuerdos de la alhambra. My plan is to get up to 130 -150 tremolo. Will that be of any help when I transition to flamenco guitar?
Sure, definitely will be of help for adjusting to the flamenco tremolo or just general finger dexterity which will help you transition more easily. In terms of picado/restroke, it may help to prepare for speed, but remember rest stroke is another animal from free stroke. So you’ll still have to re-adjust/learn the technique of rest stroke picking and start much slower.
@@DavidChiriboga When you learn new technique such as picado what would be a good time (realistic time frame) to get from 100 bpm quarter notes to 150 bpm 16th notes? That is a really interesting question.
Awesome lesson. As a beginner at this, I'm curious as to how long it usually takes to get at least descent at it.
Thanks, glad you found it helpful! So it all depends of course. But if you’re putting in some consisten focused practice, usually within a couple months you can get some decent finger dexterity and motion going. With any of these techniques, I think that’s true to start off, but the actually growth and development takes longer of course.
@@DavidChiriboga Thanks for your response, it gives me some encouragement to keep plugging away at it.
What's different between Apiyando?
“Apoyando” is just another word for rest stroke/picado. That’s all…
Hey!! You re amazing I am starting to learn flamenco guitar and I have a question on your tutorial: at 3:46 when you start playing 4 time at each string isn’t it supposed at the 3rd play the finger to rest on the string above and not get lifted up then for moments of second both fingers are laying on the string above and you lift the one you don’t play?
Hey! Thanks for the feedback. I’m sorry I don’t completely understand your question. I checked the video at that moment and didn’t see anything that caught my attention. If I laid both fingers on a string at the same time, that was just a small error. I make mistakes too lol 😉 Like mentioned in the video, the idea is to always alternate and take a quick rest on the higher string. Sorry if I couldn’t answer your question exactly.
How long did it take you to get the speed?
It’s hard to remember exactly. But generally speaking, this this technique, along with a few of the others, can start to flourish nicely within the first few months of dedicated practice. But to really see it get to that next level takes time to develop. If you’ve never used it, I would say it can take up to a year to really start seeing those type of higher level results. Everybody’s different, but this is what I’ve typically seen through many of my students. The key is to always focus on the proper form(small movement) and sound, and then the speed will naturally come!
Thanks for your fast answer man. I barely watched every picado video on RUclips and many people have their own technique which they mean is the right one. So it's really hard to adapt. I don't have problems with alternate picking and those things but to crash through the speed wall. Its getting me really angry sometimes. Anyway your video helped me a bit. Thanks for your work.
No problem... Yea, there can be many schools of opinion on how to tackle some techniques. Honestly, if something works for one person, then great, but it may not work for another. So I would never say that one approach is the only approach. My approach is pretty standard in the Flamenco realm. For example, Vicente Amigo, one of Flamenco’s current greats, is know for having some weird hand forms. But since his playing is phenomenal, not much you can say about it lol. Anyway, last thing I would say is to really focus on where your powering your picado from and how much tension there is. For years, at the beginning, I played with too much tension, due to playing in loud places, and it totally slowed me down. I had to learn to relax the fingers and play from the knuckle joint. The tips of the fingers should be very flexible and give in.
Hope that helps a bit and prob the best I can describe via chat. Good luck with it!
Thanks it's very clear explanation😊,I would like to know something regarding playing picado technique,can't we play picado fast from a classical guitar like flaminco guitar? Do we need to play it definitely from a flaminco guitar? Bcoz i am from srilanka, in our country very difficult to find flaminco guitars ,I am personally playing classical guitar but I love flaminco music too, I am also trying many lessons from youtube ,it's a great help for me if you can clarify the difference between playing picado technique in classical guitar and flaminco guitar 👍
Thanks for watching and the nice comment! Appreciate it.
So the picado technique works perfectly well on a classical, they just call it “rest stroke” technique. Pure Classical guitarists tend to play more free stroke picking than rest stroke, generally. So the short answer, you should be fine learning some flamenco on your classical. Just be careful with golpes/tapping on the top. If you have longer nails, you’ll wear away at the top of the guitar.
Let me know if you’d like any particular tutorials I can help out with... 🙂
Thank you very much for your clear explanation,so I should have to practice apoyando stroke to get more clear and stedy picado 😊as you told most of time I am playing with tirando stroke so I will switch in to apoyando stroke when I am trying the flaminco lessons, also I have watched your "Spanish romance" cover with the nice violin collaboration some years ago it was so marvellous 👍👍 👍 thank you for again for your valuable time to doing this lessons ☺
what kind of guitar is that, its beautiful
Thanks! It’s an Hermanos Conde, Atocha Location/Branch in Madrid. I got it there personally. 👌🏼
Cool lesson! It's been a long, long time since I've done any finger picking. That was great!
Thanks man! Time to spark up the finger picking again! 🙂
@@DavidChiriboga I could see that happening. I can't let myself get rusty again now that I've committed to this myself lol. And even better than just "not getting rusty" is adding and/or dusting off more skills. :)
Definitely, I agree! It’s not about just maintaining, but always trying to grow! 🙂
Definitely, I agree! It’s not about just maintaining, but always trying to grow! 🙂
weird technique, not at all similar to the flamenco greats.
i honestly recommend putting super fast flamenco runners on 0.25 speed and watching what they do. It's the best way to learn.
Sure, slowing down videos and studying technique from someone you admire can be a great tool. But keep in mind that what works for one great player doesn’t always work for others. Paco’s style of picado vs Tomatito vs Vicente Amigo are all different. My style is pretty straight forward, don’t know what you find “weird” about it. I love constructive criticism, but it sounds like you’re an advanced player and you know what you’re doing already. If that’s the case, this video wasn’t made for you. It was made for beginners learning how to pick with the picado technique. Thanks for watching!
2:23 you didn't alternate fingers. Refund please.
Hahaha…. Good eye. I was showing an example of hand position, so not thinking of the priority of alternating at that exact moment. And generally speaking, I do have very small percentage of moments of either repeating fingers by accident or intentionally for a particular phrases. I hope and assume this comment was made in playful joke lol. Because if not, it’s wishful thinking to think any of us are perfect, especially myself.
@@DavidChiriboga I jest! Your educational videos are of high quality and very much appreciated by me, so thank you. :-)
Why does the tension on the treble strings feel so tight on my guitar..l feel like that’s really hindering my Picado. Also my middle finger is slightly crooked, I get more response time with I and ring finger. I try and practice with both
Hard to know without seeing it, why there’s more tension on the trebles. All I could suggest off hand is to try low tension strings or at least for your trebles.
For the picado fingers, there’s nothing wrong with using I and Ring if that works for you. There’s a smaller percentage of guitarists that like to use those fingers with success as well. So that’s ok if that works for you finger structure. So yes, practice a little with both fingerings, however I would decide on one main fingering for performance sakes.
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