It is not a pacing problem. That is just a part of the issue. The style of storytelling changed from character driven to plot driven. It is very obvious when you realize that the two characters who get the most screen time have personality shifts and characters arcs the happen completely off screen. Jinx deciding she doesn't like explosions and Caitlyn's entire dictator arc are things that happen off screen. Even Caitlyn ending her dictator arc and Jinx deciding to help Piltover and rally Zaun is all off screen. It happens because the plot requires it. Not because of the decisions that characters made and the consequences that come from those decisions like in season 1.
You make a very good point. I don't see why any of these plot points couldn't have eventually worked if given the appropriate amount of time invested into the story beats. I would love to see what the original scripts would have looked like and what the creators had to leave on the cutting room floor.
In Season 1 it really felt like every episode had you on the edge of your seat, wondering what would happen. Season 2- barring a few episodes felt a bit meandering and unfocused. Had we kept the character-driven aspect of the show it would've worked better IMO.
What disappoints me is that the Zaun Piltover conflict was just left behind after ep. 4. Like its not even concrete whether or not they got their independence
I wish I could love this show. Season 1 was great, nothing groundbreaking as most people claim but alright. But I think I kinda hate the second season. Music montages every episode annoyed the hell out of me, plot progression was too quick. I fully dissociated when Viktor started creating immortal robots and Mel suddenly became a master magician. It felt like I was watching an abridged version. And that's why episode 7 was so good, it actually took it's time without rushing to a conclusion
yeah but for their budget it really hard too carry all the think they carry from ss1, must understand for them here. first time making film with huge budget(at least 170 million) for 14 hour of animation which every minutes cost a lot here, they have so many short sence that should long enough like 1 more act to told it fine well. but it still has a good parabel and litterly what it at it best the animation, the detail to every sence may call back previous eps here. for me ss2 alright still have a good 9/10 act 2 , 8.5/10 act 1, act3 8.5 not good at other to but still has great actions, foreshadow and ep7 every nailed ekko powder/jinx relationship which create the reason for ekko to finding jinx and he choose save his world than stuck in that happy universer, a great grow up for ekko who alway fight for present not future. the end kinda opened for other spin off may less sence for two sister can show how their feel about being close together, i have to rewatch 3 time to understance jinx reason for that choice also vi(vi may not get what vander told her" to save your family" kinda stuck when can't let vander go(i understance he is her most love father)may they will make it in other spinoff?), the hint jinx alive make me think jinx is try to leave thing behind and so she can leave the cycle of violent here, to seprate with her sister and go on her own journey. the cait vi les sence is reasonable when the storm is coming(they might death tomorow) so vi and cait trying to raise beliving eachother, also vi dont clearly know how jinx felt think that she may leave piltover and zaun( she said" so you don't leave " when help jinx) but if they can add like a sence she told cait about jinx and how she have to find her bf the battle though it may not lead them to jinx(money and inexperience issue so i can forgive this). which the story they make not bad but not delivery well by lacking and in hard situation. Mel already met blackrose member and know about ambessa are hiding about her power for a long time and excuse it by said" you weaked me!" in ss1 like she surprice about herself that may make she have a new purpose to purse here( may make us clear what mel will do in next spinoff) to know about her mother secret and fighting with black rose if them trying to make sth like war. kinda sad that they dont show it, make me felt they dont have enough time to connect many thing. for viktor he really change after ep 6 probaly by humanity thing that he know, he never reach it without remove the humanity. many character may have more time screen bc their character and model look cool, like the fish guy and loris here( he may death but may show a little more heroic act after his last breath so it may push vi to trying end it sooner. but after all for a first product, they really doing a great job to adaptation lol universe not just for lol fan but also non-lol fan which kinda hard by diffrent mind. ss1 was 10/10 and ss2 is 8.75( still got it good point and hoping they may have more time to fix it by the time).
Haha, I was so drunk watching the final act and I had it on 1.5× speed! I was curious about how it would end, but all that fantasy mumbo jumbo was killing me.
1:37 my boy went from being a core part of the rune wars, to shurima and is now apart of ixtal?? imagine if jinx went from zaun to freljord just to end up in ionia
Saying "I have nothing bad to say about this episode. Its pretty much perfect" when talking about the worst episode in garbage of a season is wild, bro.
Is it because they Left Jinx's Fate ambiguous,even though there is a little bit of foreshadowing Jinx survived and left on an airship,and have changed her official status from Alive to Unknown....rather presumably Alive?
The ending was too sad for my taste. Like imagine being Ekko, leaving a, for him, better world behind only to end up all alone. I mean literally only 4 of the 9 champions survived, not to include all the non-champions. Like a larger percentage of important characters survive in god damn Game of Thrones!!! I get killing off characters to avoid predictability BUT don't go fking overboard with it. First of all, what is the point of killing off characters in the final episodes anyway, to avoid predictability you pretty much have to do it early on anyway. And killing off so many make the entire fight feel pointless. Yes, they won, but at what cost... Most phyrric victory I've EVER seen in a show
I don't like Maddie's death because fans made her funny. So I blocked or muted them on Twitter and tried to defend the VA with her character (Welp , guess I'm too weak to comment)
Apparently episode 9 of season 2 was meant to be well over an hour long - but for crunch reasons I guess, significant portions were cut. I will admit, season 2 wasn't as satisfying as season 1.. but season 1 set the bar so damn high it'd be hard to replicate it.
It is not a pacing problem. That is just a part of the issue. The style of storytelling changed from character driven to plot driven. It is very obvious when you realize that the two characters who get the most screen time have personality shifts and characters arcs the happen completely off screen. Jinx deciding she doesn't like explosions and Caitlyn's entire dictator arc are things that happen off screen. Even Caitlyn ending her dictator arc and Jinx deciding to help Piltover and rally Zaun is all off screen. It happens because the plot requires it. Not because of the decisions that characters made and the consequences that come from those decisions like in season 1.
You make a very good point. I don't see why any of these plot points couldn't have eventually worked if given the appropriate amount of time invested into the story beats. I would love to see what the original scripts would have looked like and what the creators had to leave on the cutting room floor.
In Season 1 it really felt like every episode had you on the edge of your seat, wondering what would happen. Season 2- barring a few episodes felt a bit meandering and unfocused.
Had we kept the character-driven aspect of the show it would've worked better IMO.
What disappoints me is that the Zaun Piltover conflict was just left behind after ep. 4. Like its not even concrete whether or not they got their independence
That's the point their story isn't over. There are signs that the status between the two has changed, but it's not like their unified and all happy.
I wish I could love this show. Season 1 was great, nothing groundbreaking as most people claim but alright. But I think I kinda hate the second season. Music montages every episode annoyed the hell out of me, plot progression was too quick. I fully dissociated when Viktor started creating immortal robots and Mel suddenly became a master magician. It felt like I was watching an abridged version. And that's why episode 7 was so good, it actually took it's time without rushing to a conclusion
yeah but for their budget it really hard too carry all the think they carry from ss1, must understand for them here. first time making film with huge budget(at least 170 million) for 14 hour of animation which every minutes cost a lot here, they have so many short sence that should long enough like 1 more act to told it fine well. but it still has a good parabel and litterly what it at it best the animation, the detail to every sence may call back previous eps here. for me ss2 alright still have a good 9/10 act 2 , 8.5/10 act 1, act3 8.5 not good at other to but still has great actions, foreshadow and ep7 every nailed ekko powder/jinx relationship which create the reason for ekko to finding jinx and he choose save his world than stuck in that happy universer, a great grow up for ekko who alway fight for present not future. the end kinda opened for other spin off may less sence for two sister can show how their feel about being close together, i have to rewatch 3 time to understance jinx reason for that choice also vi(vi may not get what vander told her" to save your family" kinda stuck when can't let vander go(i understance he is her most love father)may they will make it in other spinoff?), the hint jinx alive make me think jinx is try to leave thing behind and so she can leave the cycle of violent here, to seprate with her sister and go on her own journey. the cait vi les sence is reasonable when the storm is coming(they might death tomorow) so vi and cait trying to raise beliving eachother, also vi dont clearly know how jinx felt think that she may leave piltover and zaun( she said" so you don't leave " when help jinx) but if they can add like a sence she told cait about jinx and how she have to find her bf the battle though it may not lead them to jinx(money and inexperience issue so i can forgive this). which the story they make not bad but not delivery well by lacking and in hard situation. Mel already met blackrose member and know about ambessa are hiding about her power for a long time and excuse it by said" you weaked me!" in ss1 like she surprice about herself that may make she have a new purpose to purse here( may make us clear what mel will do in next spinoff) to know about her mother secret and fighting with black rose if them trying to make sth like war. kinda sad that they dont show it, make me felt they dont have enough time to connect many thing. for viktor he really change after ep 6 probaly by humanity thing that he know, he never reach it without remove the humanity. many character may have more time screen bc their character and model look cool, like the fish guy and loris here( he may death but may show a little more heroic act after his last breath so it may push vi to trying end it sooner. but after all for a first product, they really doing a great job to adaptation lol universe not just for lol fan but also non-lol fan which kinda hard by diffrent mind. ss1 was 10/10 and ss2 is 8.75( still got it good point and hoping they may have more time to fix it by the time).
Haha, I was so drunk watching the final act and I had it on 1.5× speed! I was curious about how it would end, but all that fantasy mumbo jumbo was killing me.
1:37 my boy went from being a core part of the rune wars, to shurima and is now apart of ixtal?? imagine if jinx went from zaun to freljord just to end up in ionia
Saying "I have nothing bad to say about this episode. Its pretty much perfect" when talking about the worst episode in garbage of a season is wild, bro.
Nice video! S2 story is extremely inconclusive and disappointing for the show of this scale and budget.
Good video!
Is it because they Left Jinx's Fate ambiguous,even though there is a little bit of foreshadowing Jinx survived and left on an airship,and have changed her official status from Alive to Unknown....rather presumably Alive?
Tbh I felt like they just mixed the Naruto and Aot ending and made arcane
The ending was too sad for my taste. Like imagine being Ekko, leaving a, for him, better world behind only to end up all alone. I mean literally only 4 of the 9 champions survived, not to include all the non-champions. Like a larger percentage of important characters survive in god damn Game of Thrones!!!
I get killing off characters to avoid predictability BUT don't go fking overboard with it. First of all, what is the point of killing off characters in the final episodes anyway, to avoid predictability you pretty much have to do it early on anyway. And killing off so many make the entire fight feel pointless. Yes, they won, but at what cost...
Most phyrric victory I've EVER seen in a show
I don't like Maddie's death because fans made her funny. So I blocked or muted them on Twitter and tried to defend the VA with her character (Welp , guess I'm too weak to comment)
Apparently episode 9 of season 2 was meant to be well over an hour long - but for crunch reasons I guess, significant portions were cut. I will admit, season 2 wasn't as satisfying as season 1.. but season 1 set the bar so damn high it'd be hard to replicate it.