Sawmilling First Beam Of My Timber Frame House
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We LOVED the cut/joinery sheets from the Shelter Institute. We had already invested allot of time and money into our Timber Frame plans for our house before the course or we would have had them design our house as well.
You’re my favourite Channel
Jesse, stay focused my friend, and if it doesn’t need to be done, don’t do it. I don’t want you to stop making videos again. You have a smart bunch of subscribers, we understand and learn easily. Tell us what you are going to do and we will learn as you go through the process.
I’m not trying to be rude, I just love watching the videos.
You timed this video release with my morning coffee. Much obliged!
Just a tip. When you mark the size of log you want with your square on each end if you would take a nail at the 4 corners on each end and run a chalk line from nail on on end to the other and snap it you could see what size beam you could get with out guessing. Also you would see the low and high spots. This would give you a better way to get your beam size without waste
My first job was in a sawmill and after 3 years I learned to run the headsaw. I was just like you my first several hundred logs or so...taking my time...trying maximize each log, but soon you just "know" how to set it. It took me a few days at 12-15 thousand bdft per day to get the feel of it. I envy you having your own mini mill...I so enjoyed sawing.
Just saying you two are amazing, 1971 the wife and I did a 1100 sqft stick built. yu are way out of our league. Keep up the good work. Considering all you have to do it is too bad you weren't able to go with a hydrolic assist mill.
The instructor from the institute has been building and teaching since the mid 70'S. Amazing people
Doubtful you guys will ever see this comment but I just have to try. I love your video's and even though we don't know each other I feel you are part of my daily life. Even though I am not there I sure am in spirt rooting you guys ONWARD!
I'm disabled and can't do a lot of things but you give me a chance to take part in something wonderfully exciting. Something that will be life changing for you guys! What saddens me is some day all this will be over and I worry so much that your videos will stop! I hope and pray that you continue even after your home is completed that you continue to air your adventures! You guys are amazing and a wonderful couple, you are an inspiration to me! A lot of people could take life lessons from you on how you work together and get along and work through all your trials and tribulations. Just amazing people all the way around! By the way I have watched your videos since day one and will continue to do so! Thank you both, thank you so much for your giving and kindness to share such a very personal part of your lives. Building a home as you are is about as personal as it gets! Awesome people! Thanks!
Maxedout MegaBlith now imagine how Surreal it was to hear them in person and not through a speaker..... Awesome and surreal..... Truly the same as on their videos. A very lovely couple.
I enjoy hearing the hows and why - I wouldn't watch to just see a saw buzzing.
BTW- saw Alyssa in last epi putting bark sections in a bin. I take my bark sections and lay on paths bark side up. They decompose slowly, prevent weed growth, prevent wheel sinking in the mud, and provide wet/snow traction for my tractor, lawntractor and feet.
The wood is for a Hugelkultur raised bed garden.
Thanks -- Some bark would go a long way on that. But still a great use.
The tape you have is a Spencer logging tape. You can get tape to put in that which has a "diameter" scale on one side. So you just wrap the tape and read the diameter. I use it constantly. Definitely a cheap tool worth investing in given how much of this you will be doing (or have done?).
Just when I was about to go to sleep I see a new video.
Had a rough heartbreaking day yesterday and sitting here watching your vids this morning seeing your enthusiasm and joy has put a smile on my face and if for nothing else, for that I thank you
I know the frame is up but I have to say that the opening shop of this video with foundation and warm board all in place brought a smile to my face. Great job.
I love your guyses videos, thanks for taking us along with you throughout this process.
In sawing you should load the top of the log at the saw head, that make figuring what the yield will be a lot easier.
I was a owner builder of a stick built house back in 06 and it was the greatest time of my life. watching your video's brings back so many awesome memories. to be able to share the same spirit and experience of building our own home's the way our forefathers for centuries have is a treasure. I only wish I would of documented my journey the way you guys have. Good job and God bless
Hi Jesse!
Recommendation: Don't worry about wane on one side of your timbers. Think about it: For walls, the outside edges will be inside the finished walls. For floor beams, put the wane on the top and it will be covered by the flooring.
Old engineering expression: "Perfect is the enemy of good enough!
Also, don't stress over perfect dimensions on the beams. If the exposed side of the beams when finished varies by even a quarter of an inch, it doesn't matter and will never be noticed.
Perfect is nice, but TRIPLES the time involved!!
Best, Dave
You're wasting your time. He does not read the comments, so you are just talking to the rest of us. Just so you know!
In addition to SixString, the structure is built. Go to his Facebook page to contribute Real Time.
I have been waiting with bated breath for this series of videos to start! Thanks for the teaser. This may result in a savings project for my own mill. Keep up the good work.
both you guys are hard ass work horses!!! glad to watch and THANKS!!!! Jess.... you are a lucky man. your wife . I don't want to miss spell her name is one tough woman. I think she wants the same thing you do. good for you both. LUV you guyszz . Keep on track and get er done . :)
As I watched all of this calculating, measuring, hummhawing about cutting the logs. I said ( to myself,) these logs are going to rot before he gets this figured out! So, I figured, I need to get out of here before he has a melt down!
Man Glitter. LOL. This is one of the portions I’ve been looking forward too.
1. sometimes as you rip the logs the stresses change and they will "curl". So it may not be the bed of the mill. 2. Wanes are not necessarily bad, they can add interest, especially in braces, floor joists/beams.
Also the movable arm ( I forget the actual name) needs to be as close to the log as possible to prevent blade deflection during the cut.
Watching this, no wonder you stopped producing videos for a few weeks.
Thanks for taking the time to tell us what you are doing/thinking! Thanks for continuing to share your home build! Awesome to see it coming together!
Maybe make a table or other furniture from the scrap wood, you could even sell it. Keep the videos coming
You would think with the viewership this is getting, wood-mizer would send out a technician to make sure the machine is set up and cutting perfectly.
just about to get ready to go to work then... BAM... new video uploaded. work is delayed.
I look forward to watching your videos when taking my break from studying for Nursing school. I can't wait to see your future home when it is done! Keep up the great work.
This will likely be too late for advice to be received:
your sawmill is also technically a jointer. You aren't going to have a straight piece of lumber until you take a skim "flattening pass" on the mill. it doesn't even have to be to dimension, just flat. As long as your mill doesn't have twist in the bed, you use that skim cut to rotate 180 and reference that to the bed. adjust the bed to be flat to your reference face. Your next cut will give you another flat that is parallel to your first cut. After that, you measure to dimension what you could get out of the stock.
It helps if the rails that the band saw rides on are parallel and not skewed so that you can get a good first cut. In cutting the tree the main thing is just to line up the pith on both ends if the tree is reasonably straight.
If you start your cut on the skinny side, you take out a lot of guess work.
When you had the jack under the log, it was on the ground, i think you should have put wood under the log so the weight would be on the mizer before cutting, otherwise you have 2 reference points.
I was telling my fiancée that I would love to build a timber frame house one day, here’s to hoping we can do that some years or decades from now haha. I’ll be watching these videos more than once if that’s the case!!
My experience is when you cut your own beams you end up with lots and lots of one and two inch side lumber which needs to be stacked, stickered, covered some where on the property. Never enough stickers it seems so never through them away.
Hey from Greece
Well Folks that is a good start to your milling. All the best when the rest get cut.
Good evening Alyssa, Jesse, and Bugaboo! Glad you got this video out.
Milling is a totally forgein concept to me. Watching this vid was SUPER Super interesting.
I had never considered so much calculating when cutting the timbers you are learning all the time and showing us all the problems to watch out for great work Great video XX
so happy to see you got the decking done... that milling takes a lot of thought.. if you had unlimited time and trees then no problem but.... you will have some extras for furniture building
You can use a stair gauge set at the dimension you want on your square to make it easier to find your post/beam layout.
Your logging tape measures diameter as well as length fyi. You can also use two framing squares to accomplish the same thing. The crook in your logs is referred to as sweep and should be to the outside when starting the first cut. The closer the idler wheels are to the work, the less deflection you will get in your blade. Seriously time to re-purpose the grizzly into a solar kiln so you can dry all the left over 2x material. Those are amazing logs... they have very little taper, the wood is quite clear and you can see how straight the grain is in the checks. Keep up the good work, but a owner built log home would cost less at this point even if you like post and beam style.
Not to be one of those know it all commenters, but tugging on the cross members with the ratchet strap doesn't look like it's helping your alignment issue. I may be wrong though.
It`s ok they are done at this date. The frame is up.
Post & Beam builders cut 45 degree bevels on the corners of the P&B's to make ignition do to fire less likely!
Use some big bell calipers to find the shallowest part of the logs.
You talk about Wayne like it's a bad thing. :)
Wayne
I will be the first one to point out the spelling error. Love the channel, keep on keepin on.
;-)
working whit imperial units its a mess
Great video... 'LOGGER'S TAPE...' I miss mine... :-( but love that I'm not felling anymore...
Great progress you guys! love the videos, especially all the talking and explaining. I have learned a lot from it.
Warn us ahead of time when its a Jesse talking video. When he uses logic like "100% guarantee that it probably will ..." my head explodes.
Just a thought... 3 minutes without cuts.. "Hot Tub Diaries"...... Once a week? :) You are doing great young lady! Glad to see you got some buffer days (we all know you still did some editing). I have high hopes for a better shelter over some of this winter.
must be very hat right naw after all snow. Very good content and sooooooo exited video. keep doing good job.
Men Glitter out of the Unicorn Woods, haha
So, from a storage perspective you have to start with the last one first.. Wow. You'll be busy :)
Keep up the great work. My wife and I wait every day for a video.
Need a 15 sec run of "man" music on the sawmill. Something that will make Tim Allen grunt. Lol. Love the channel.
Ooooooh i have been waiting for this for so long!!!
Love the title. Love that it's actually a flash back to all the prep you did for us at the timber framing class. Love you guys! BOB!
FF to 14:20 to get past Jessie's rambling. Most of this vlog is Jessie talking to himself.
love watching your videos and progress! My 5 year olds and 3 year old are obsessed and can't wait for the next one lol
Outstanding video Guys!! It's like going to class everyday without worrying about test!!! Hahahaha
At 20:36 did anyone notice the log hitting the rail sounded like the beat to the first three notes to We Will Rock You by Queen?
Your problem is your Shelter plans and wanting machine made precision.
If you were making a hand made timber frame with an axe and hand tools you would not be concerned with all the minor details that clutter your mind.
You are trying to make something like Ikea that will all assemble at the end with no compensation or adjustment to the plan.
Remember you are making a one of a kind building and not setting up to make duplicate production.
Fun to watch how you start a topic as an amateur beginner with little knowledge of the topic then in a few sentences spew all the technical knowledge and life experience of one who has made a life long career of that subject.
Never the less I like to watch. Good fun!
Just sayin.
You obviously have no experience in Timber Framing.....
You two are doing something amazing!
I love the planning and the trial and error... When are they going to make an electric wood mizer... The noise is horrible when idling...
i am so jealous on your saw mill LOL great job chief and your size of trees, you almost don't find that anymore here in Norway. can't wait for the framing
Maybe use that "junk " wood to make a floor, you can stain it of just put finish on it. ☺
"Thanks for coming out and touching our wood." Sounds so dirty
You overthink this too much... just get to work, or you'll never get it done.
you need to saw 1 flat (this cut should reveal the max lumber available from that log 6-12 inch flat cut from side to side..), turn it 90, saw another flat, the turn 90 saw another, and turn 90 and saw another. all the cuts should overlap some so that no bark is left in the corners. otherwise take a skim cut, and get rid of it. the small end is your guage for the size beam you can get. this will give you a rough cut timber to which you can set aside, and do a finnish sawing on it later. You are wasting time. I can appreciate double checking your cuts, but it'll take you forever at this pace.
You realize this video is several weeks behind right? The house is up... so obviously they got it done.
decoysk but obviously talking wasn’t an issue...
decoysk dude, they need to talk to make videos, you don’t want talking don’t watch video... you’re the only one here pissing and moaning about them talking during a video you’re watching.
Leave some wane on your timbers. Not only does it allow you to maximize the amount of lumber but the wane will add some character to your beams.
So many folk grumbling that there is to much chat! Well I personally found it both very interesting and informative, and we all have the choice to watch, skip forward or just dont watch at all....simple :)
You need to cut the log 5 times ? ?
The 1st cut makes a flat spot so you can start milling it ? And the 5 cut method make sure it square
I'm not criticizing ya'll to be mean so please don't take it that way. Ya'll just don't have much experience building a house. As long as it takes ya'll to get a simple project finished like putting down the warmboard, that is only about a two and a half hour job. I just don't see how you are going to have this house dried in before winter. There is a lot of work that has to be done after the framing and I sincerely hope you have a lot of experienced help coming after the framing to help you. I've read several comments that say that ya'll don't read your comment section and you are missing out on lot of good information that I have seen. I truly wish you the best. My advise would be that you study your plans at night for the next day's work and stop second guessing every measurement and process during the workday. You need to have all that figured out ahead of time and only make small adjustments during the building day. Having to stop and run to town everyday to pick up more screws, nails, glue or other supplies is killing your time management. The most important part of building a house is the logistic process of having the right products you need when you need them. I wish ya'll all the luck in the world trying to get this dried in by winter.
I sure hope that you winterize your equipment and call a mechanic to find the parasitic drain on your backhoe, make sure you have plenty of antifreeze in the backhoe. People selling used equipment are known for short cutting to save money just to move the equipment. Don't ruin an engine block by assuming they took care of the antifreeze when they may have just filled it up with water.
Yeah I noticed that, I don't understand why they took so long putting it down. It's a very easy product to lay down. Maybe they just bit off a little too much with their level of experience. They seem like nice people, Alyssa seems like a very hard worker and a nice lady. I think Jesse gets a little frustrated with the instructions that come with the products from the manufactures at times and seems to spend a lot of time on the phone with them. I know he doesn't want to make mistakes but building a house is not easy even for the pros at times. Lining up subs can be a nightmare if the market is busy and everybody has lots of work. They are just young and inexperienced I hope it doesn't take a toll on their marriage they do seem like really good people.
I sure wish the read the comments and responded some. Many people have given them good suggestions. I'm a little worried about the used backhoe right now. It's leaking hydraulic fluid, probably bypassing a seal, that's why the bucket drops down overnight. It's got a parasitic electrical problem and needed a new battery right after they purchased it so I wonder what the other systems look like. So many times they fill a radiator with water and only a splash of coolant to make you think it's got the correct mix for their environment only to see a block freeze and crack.
I know first hand how sellers will slap a little paint on something to make it look good and take shortcuts on the mechanical end, I've been bitten before myself. Had a company mechanic JB Weld a water jacket on a cylinder on a Caterpillar 3116 engine in a rollback that I found after I discovered coolant in the oil after we had purchased about 6 months later. Thought it was a reputable company, they sell new and rebuilt forklifts in our area and have been around for years, we would have most likely still negotiated a deal on the truck just would have planned to replace the engine. Just wish people would be upfront and honest but that just doesn't happen much in this world these days.
I thought that the log was rolled until it was touching as much bed as possible then make the timber as large as possible. Just confused.
So enjoy these videos. Very enjoyable.
Hi Jessie / Alisa,
Why not add a bag on the end of the mill saw to collect the sawdust for use in your compost? Can"t guarantee, but you might be able to find one that will catch most of the sawdust.
Just a thought...
Get a log you know is level and see if it cuts anything
What are you guys planning on making with all the extra lumber?
good job guys !!
I am not sure if the timber frame is permanently secured to the concrete stem walls or not. Or if the timber frame is only screwed onto the warmboard subflooring. The roof or a temporary roof of tarps will act as a large sail that would destroy the timber framing during a strong wind storm, if the timber framing is not permanently secured to the concrete foundation. Please make sure all is secured during this winter!!! Stay warm and dry...
It is a good thought, but this is the reason for windbracing.
Windbracing only works if every thing is secured to the foundation. Thanks for pointing this out.
So if your caveat is noted, the whole thing should fly away in one piece. I seem to have noted that there was a ledge on the edge of the base plates which are anchored by bolts , so he only needs to run a base for the frame around the baseplate and make sure it is attached
So true, that may be why the SIP is installed to the 4X12" sill plate before the roof is on...
Great video guys. I love milling timber. Greetings from Andreas on Off Grid Sweden
Great video thank you!
Great vid. I"ve been waiting for this phase of the build. I wish I lived closer for I'd volunteer myself as a lumber mule while you cut.
Way too much talking.
Once you get a rhythm and learn just how u want to do it, you will get more done each day I have no doubt!
100% guarantee you that this will "probably" become ...... :lol
Make a bracket to attach your 12" planer to your Wood-Mizer...
Wow I’m early...
fire wood
You will get the swing of things rome wasn't built in a day for all the critics. There getting in and working out the task good on them
If that is a true loggers tape then you should be able to wrap it around the log and read the diameter of the log off of the tape on one side or the other.
Scoot that spud! Boy, lots of work moving large timber around. You mention "timber floor joists" but I've seen the videos with the engineered joists and the warmboard over it, so this term confuses. I can only guess that the joist you mention is the outside bottom timber in the timberframe structure, not an actual floor joist as normally thought of.
P.S: Love the -turbo- log-milling scenes. LOL
P.P.S: You'll enjoy your log measure more if you spend a few minutes on maintenance on it. A couple dabs of lithium grease on the pivot pins would stop the squeak.
LJ Prep I was just there building this frame, there are indeed timber floor joists for the second floor of the frame, I cut the joinery and put them in place myself. He's not talking about the TJI's that are already in place. 👍🏻 if you haven't seen the frame yet, check out heir Instagram, it's beautiful!
This will be a 3 story house. Garage, living space, living space. The timber frame floor joists will be between the second and third floor. Hope I said that correctly.
Susan Pfeiffer 👌🏻👍🏻
Brizzleberry Eaves BOB!
ro p. Hey bob! It was really nice meeting you. I hope we can work another project together some day.
Do you buy new blades for your saw mill or do you have a sharpener. Seems with the amount of logs you have a sharpener would be a good investment.
You two are amazing. I learn something each episode!
Hopefully you get a good system going
You will do it! Thanks for sharing.
The lag time between Facebook and youtube is real
I been seeing your progress on facebook and have been super busy I'm glad to have sometime to get up to date on your videos!
Lucas Mill all the way
So excited for you guys. Keep the videos coming.