Joker played the 2nd most minutes in the last five years, only behind Tatum and that's fckn insane. Matt, check out the games and minutes of the others 250+lbs guys in the nba. And it's not just about the time he spent on the court, every close game he needs to be near damn perfect in order for Nuggets to win. He set unreal standards that you now take for granted. How about other two max players take over sometimes? Or they should not be accountable? I'm surprised that Joker is not burnt yet
"Jokic didn't make everybody good enough." Matt Moore. So, Jokic should have held Jamal's hand while he was crossing the halfcourt? Or while he was throwing tantrum like a child after going 1-10. No wonder our offense suffered when we couldn't initiate a play in the first 20 seconds of the shot clock. You don't think Jokic will play worse when his starting point guard (max player) can't get any separation from his guards? When he can't get him the ball in the good spots, when he can't hit shit but keeps shooting? Do you know why he looked tired? Because our other max player is treating regular season like a warmup. Meanwhile Jokic and other starters have to carry the load whole season, on top of that our bench is awfull. Imagine simping for Murray so hard that you have to shit on your Best player in history to deflect the blame from him.
@@KClouisville No. Because its a team game. But Doncic is always unstoppable. The only thing, sometimes he misses his stepback threes. Jokic only shots when its a "good shot". That's smart... but not unstoppable.
So...Jamal and team are not responsible to make life easier for Jokic and not their fault if game is lost, but Jokic is the one to look at if team didn't perform well? He should demand the trade and I would like to see where would Denver end up. Jokic carries entire franchise on his back for so many years now, he played most minutes in entire league in last 5 seasons combined...Now you throw him under the bus cuz he missed few opened threes, and JAMAL WHO MISSED EVERYTHING, MPJ, AND R.J, they all good? Ridiculous, good for Denver that Joker is not ego maniac and asks to be traded, since player of that caliber to have average support cast, is leading nowhere in long term.
I took a break from the media and basketball podcasts after the loss, but I found watching the playoffs has helped me deal with the loss. Watching brings out my love for the game and it's also nice to just watch as a fan without being emotionally tied to the outcome. I am still upset we had an early exit, but I'm coping by watching. Rooting for Luka helped me to get out of that head space I was in after Game 7 against the Wolves. And, I still love watching good basketball. I hope we heal up during the off season, we better retain KCP despite the second apron and I hope we find a one or two pieces to help us during the playoffs
Nuggets fans live in North Korea with Matt, one of the main opinion makers in this space, who isn't even a Nuggets fan, trashing their main star, Jokic, worse than Nick Wright.
We are trusting Booth with Joker’s prime. What has he done to deserve that faith? Just fell into a championship team when the organization was too cheap.
If you have 6 guys that can play and score opposing to only 5 that can play and score, then you will have more chance of someone stepping up, and that is more chance of winning.
This guy on the left is the worst Nuggets host. Seriously like, of course Jamal playing badly was a big reason we lost. The Jokic Murray two man game is what elevates our game to a different level. If Murray is not a threat, they can just focus on Jokic. That's so so obvious yet this guy blames Jokic because he's the best player. Like come on man.
After these stupid videos, I want Jokic to go to Dallas with Luka. If MPJ had hit a" single shot Denver would have been in the finals, obviously there are journalists or whatever they call themselves who have no idea what they are talking about. That's why Jokic said, "I don't listen to people who haven't spent five minutes on the floor".
So Jokic didnt make them good enough... so it was Jokics fault that MPJ and KCP missed wide open threes that HE created? He has to shoot the ball for them too? It's his fault that Malone didnt call a timeout after a 9-0 wolves run? It's Jokic fault that he was tired after Malone didnt rest him a single second up 20 when he was still creating open shots they were just being bricked by everyone(Jokic deserves blame for his own missed shots but he also had to do everything else) and no one boxed out?
You guys talked about a young second ball handler with high IQ and excellent defense?... The answer is Deni Avdija which have a very comfortable contract... The only question, if the Washington Wizards will let him go?
Okc didn't even give Micic a chance. He plays smart and would be a great backup pg. So Matt constantly blames Jokic and discriminates against Serbian players. Like the guy does not understand basketball.
NBA history says that if you don't have a top 3 seed you don't win a championship. Period. 75 top 3 seeds have won Championships. Two 4-8 seeds have won. Ever. Could it happen that the Mavs win? Maybe. But, if so it will be the first time in NBA history that a 5 seed has won. The last time a 4 seed won was '69 - "Summer of Love". Woodstock. Neil Armstrong landed on the moon. And Bill Russell and the Celtics beat Wilt Chamberlain and the Lakers. That was a long ass time ago. One 6th seed Hakeem's '94 Rockets beat the Magic. 30 years ago. Not going to happen.
Guys, he ain't the best player in the world anymore. He may get those idiotic meaningless adv stats mvps with the stupid plus minus, but Doncic is actually "unstoppable" and already defeated a better team than Jokic ever did in the playoffs.
Joker played the 2nd most minutes in the last five years, only behind Tatum and that's fckn insane. Matt, check out the games and minutes of the others 250+lbs guys in the nba. And it's not just about the time he spent on the court, every close game he needs to be near damn perfect in order for Nuggets to win. He set unreal standards that you now take for granted. How about other two max players take over sometimes? Or they should not be accountable? I'm surprised that Joker is not burnt yet
And tatum has been six years in the league? Bro that kid has serious patience and ethic
"Jokic didn't make everybody good enough." Matt Moore. So, Jokic should have held Jamal's hand while he was crossing the halfcourt? Or while he was throwing tantrum like a child after going 1-10. No wonder our offense suffered when we couldn't initiate a play in the first 20 seconds of the shot clock. You don't think Jokic will play worse when his starting point guard (max player) can't get any separation from his guards? When he can't get him the ball in the good spots, when he can't hit shit but keeps shooting? Do you know why he looked tired? Because our other max player is treating regular season like a warmup. Meanwhile Jokic and other starters have to carry the load whole season, on top of that our bench is awfull. Imagine simping for Murray so hard that you have to shit on your Best player in history to deflect the blame from him.
Either Jokic is unstoppable as a point center or he isnt.
True is... he isn't.
Now Doncic... that's unstoppable.
@@KClouisville No. Because its a team game. But Doncic is always unstoppable. The only thing, sometimes he misses his stepback threes.
Jokic only shots when its a "good shot". That's smart... but not unstoppable.
So...Jamal and team are not responsible to make life easier for Jokic and not their fault if game is lost, but Jokic is the one to look at if team didn't perform well? He should demand the trade and I would like to see where would Denver end up.
Jokic carries entire franchise on his back for so many years now, he played most minutes in entire league in last 5 seasons combined...Now you throw him under the bus cuz he missed few opened threes, and JAMAL WHO MISSED EVERYTHING, MPJ, AND R.J, they all good? Ridiculous, good for Denver that Joker is not ego maniac and asks to be traded, since player of that caliber to have average support cast, is leading nowhere in long term.
Matt Moore: Dr Jokic should lose his medical license for not curing Jamal's calf injury... or something like that
I took a break from the media and basketball podcasts after the loss, but I found watching the playoffs has helped me deal with the loss. Watching brings out my love for the game and it's also nice to just watch as a fan without being emotionally tied to the outcome. I am still upset we had an early exit, but I'm coping by watching. Rooting for Luka helped me to get out of that head space I was in after Game 7 against the Wolves. And, I still love watching good basketball. I hope we heal up during the off season, we better retain KCP despite the second apron and I hope we find a one or two pieces to help us during the playoffs
Nuggets fans live in North Korea with Matt, one of the main opinion makers in this space, who isn't even a Nuggets fan, trashing their main star, Jokic, worse than Nick Wright.
If is possible Denver should draft Topic he pobably slips because was hurt some time
You can’t shoot the ball for others. When you empower your teammates the floor can fall out but it’s always a good gambit
If Malone's job maybe on the line, what about Calvin Booth's job?
Calvin needs to go already. I don't know how he got the job in the first place, is he related to somebody?
We are trusting Booth with Joker’s prime. What has he done to deserve that faith? Just fell into a championship team when the organization was too cheap.
We don't want GM that does not want to win NOW with Jokic in a team.
If you have 6 guys that can play and score opposing to only 5 that can play and score, then you will have more chance of someone stepping up, and that is more chance of winning.
Luka got revenge for Joker! 💪 ❤
It is simple - trade for Vasilije Micić!!
This guy on the left is the worst Nuggets host. Seriously like, of course Jamal playing badly was a big reason we lost. The Jokic Murray two man game is what elevates our game to a different level. If Murray is not a threat, they can just focus on Jokic. That's so so obvious yet this guy blames Jokic because he's the best player. Like come on man.
I would rather keep KCP than MPJ
🎉great ep
No.
We have backup center. Huff
My favorites swipa and Matt you guys always give great insight
I am Serbian, If Jokic doesnt ask for the trade if they fire Malone, I think that Joker is shit.
After these stupid videos, I want Jokic to go to Dallas with Luka. If MPJ had hit a" single shot Denver would have been in the finals, obviously there are journalists or whatever they call themselves who have no idea what they are talking about. That's why Jokic said, "I don't listen to people who haven't spent five minutes on the floor".
Still sad Denver lost to Minnesota but never lost faith in them. We'll get them next year!
So Jokic didnt make them good enough... so it was Jokics fault that MPJ and KCP missed wide open threes that HE created? He has to shoot the ball for them too? It's his fault that Malone didnt call a timeout after a 9-0 wolves run? It's Jokic fault that he was tired after Malone didnt rest him a single second up 20 when he was still creating open shots they were just being bricked by everyone(Jokic deserves blame for his own missed shots but he also had to do everything else) and no one boxed out?
Marrey has an average 31 million pay and Porter 35 million. To mach for what thay giving to tim
Trash take from Moore 💯
You guys talked about a young second ball handler with high IQ and excellent defense?... The answer is Deni Avdija which have a very comfortable contract... The only question, if the Washington Wizards will let him go?
No.
YES.
Just stay the course. Let the young guys develope. As long as Jokic is healthy they'll always be in contention.
If we trade MPJ away booth will be /should be fired
Would a 4 year $20 million contract work for KCP and the Nuggets
I assume you mean 4 yr/80 million...
They need Vasilia micic
End of story 💯💪
Okc didn't even give Micic a chance. He plays smart and would be a great backup pg. So Matt constantly blames Jokic and discriminates against Serbian players. Like the guy does not understand basketball.
Yeah we can NO longer go for draft players at this point in time.
Luka and Kyrie scored 72 and trashed Minnesota...
There is no such thing as a great post season when your team collapses in game 7!
Go be a bummer somewhere else. Be a lakers fan with that shit.
Lol maybe dude that picked Nuggets in 5 over the wolves shouldn’t be so dismissive of other takes
Don’t care so much about the regular season. Need guys fresh during playoffs. Boys were wiped out at the end this year.
NBA history says that if you don't have a top 3 seed you don't win a championship. Period. 75 top 3 seeds have won Championships. Two 4-8 seeds have won. Ever. Could it happen that the Mavs win? Maybe. But, if so it will be the first time in NBA history that a 5 seed has won. The last time a 4 seed won was '69 - "Summer of Love". Woodstock. Neil Armstrong landed on the moon. And Bill Russell and the Celtics beat Wilt Chamberlain and the Lakers. That was a long ass time ago. One 6th seed Hakeem's '94 Rockets beat the Magic. 30 years ago. Not going to happen.
Comparing to the Clippers is not a good take- KL is a historically unhealthy star. Basically only Bill Walton was more injury prone
MPJ for Micic + 1.
Get rid of MPJ for draft picks and you can entirely rebuild the roster and keep KCP and Gordon and Murray
We need to get proven guys. That won't work since those draft players won't be ready, and the window to win is now.
Guys, he ain't the best player in the world anymore. He may get those idiotic meaningless adv stats mvps with the stupid plus minus, but Doncic is actually "unstoppable" and already defeated a better team than Jokic ever did in the playoffs.