CONTAX ZEISS VS MEIKE S35 | Comparison between Vintage & Modern Lenses for Filmmaking ( BMPCC 6K )
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Over the past few years I have shared videos using both my vintage Contax Zeiss and the much newer Meike Cine lenses and I always get asked which ones I prefer or how do they compare so I thought I would make this video to answer a few questions.
I talk about why I have the two, their differences and similarities and which I would recommend based on my experience.
I know that both these lenses are very popular when it comes to getting a prime set so hopefully this video can help you in choosing which one to go with.
Hopefully you enjoy this video and find it helpful!
Let me know if you have any questions :).
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Here is a comparison video between vintage and modern lenses.
Which one would you go for?
Cheers,
Flo
Fun fact: the original Meike m43 cine primes were made using Veydra designs. Veydra was an American startup that wanted to bring high quality, inexpensive cine lenses to m43. They were doing well until a catastrophic burglary of their stock, worth hundreds of thousands. They eventually went out of business, and their lens designs were acquired by Meike. Tests show that the Meike m43 lenses are even better than the Veydras in terms of build quality and lens coating.
I do remember the Veydra quite well, I actually was about to purchase a set before they went out of business :)
This is easily the best RUclips channel. Great work as always
You're too kind, thank you !!
I have the Meike 35mm paired with a RED Dragon and I can say I absolutely love it. One of my all time favorite lenses. For me, minimal focus breathing is a big deal and the meike lens set has nearly no breathing at all. Great vid!
That Meike 35mm is something else !! Thanks for watching :)
Man I've been waiting for a video like this! I've been on the fence but I'm leaning towards vintage for creative use :)
Shooting Vintage is so much fun! I love my Contax :) And just the hunt for them is so rewarding haha!
I'd love to try to Leicas at some point too.
Great review as always, my friend. Those Contax are amazing! One day..., one day! Thanks, man
Thank you mate!! Those Contax are very special indeed :)
Lovely video agian, Flo. Your shots look fantastic, regardless of Zoom, cine prime or vintage prime lenses.
I've collected the Nikon AI lenses since some time, and have the 24 f/2.8, 35 f/2, 50 f/1.4 and 105 f/2.5 lenses. They're crispy, and the modding process is similar to what you do with the Zeiss. Love them.
For my modern lensing needs, I opted for the Panasonic S 1.8 primes (got the 50 and 85, now planning for the 35) since they are lightweight, have AF, a wide focus ring with Linear focusing option, and are approximately the same length and diameter. They work very well for documentary projects, and have a neutral look. Plus since the S1 is full frame, they are low light beasts as well.
I would have liked Cine glass, but Autofocus (especially Face/eye AF) is vital for my run-and-gun work, and I wanted something that is photography friendly too :)
Thanks mate!
A friend of mine has the Nikon and shot beautiful stuff.
And I do understand why you would go for the Pana (especially with the S1) it makes sense for run and gun work indeed. That's why I enjoy shooting with my zoom lenses or even with Canon cine cameras for the amazing and very useful AF :)
Beautiful breakdown 👍🏽
Thanks so much !!
Another great video - ty! I have a set of Contax Zeiss and a couple of Sirui anamorphics. I need to spend some more time with what I have and see how Meike pans out (75-85mm maybe?). Thank you for keeping Meike on my radar!
Thanks man!! And no worries, the Meikes are definitely worth a shot ☺️
Great review! Thanks!
Thanks for watching :) !!
hi tehre
great! video !
can I ask what the focal length is like?
for exampel MEIKE is 25mm - what is the 35mm equivalent on BMPCC 6K pro?
for CANON FD - that si self explanatory and Zeiss as well
also Can I aks what exactly are the zeiss mount for originally? contax mount
and is the customisation easy?
many thanks - keep up tehse amazing videos!
I'm on my way to send my first two Contax / Zeiss lenses to a laboratory in France to cine-mod them, so my preference goes to vintage lenses, but I'm happy that a brand like Meike continues the work started by Veydra at the time of the original BMPCC.
I came to Contax / Zeiss after thinking about Leica R (over budget for me at the moment) and Pentax Takumar (the lab doesn't de-click this type of lens), but I'm happy with it.
Generally, I build my set starting from the all-arounder (on S35 / Aps-C mount) which in this case is the Distagon 28mm f2.8 to which I added the Planar 50mm f1.7 which I will basically use as a short telephoto on the B- Cam for interviews and little else (which is why I preferred it to the more expensive Planar 1.4).
In the future I think I'll take a real telepohoto, perhaps a Sonnar 85mm 2.8 or a 135mm f2.8, in order to complete a set that, come to think of it, could be suitable if one day I had to go full-frame (not in my plans at the moment).
Nice!! Which lab are you going to ?
I built my set around the 28mm too :) Thanks for watching and sharing your experience!
@@OfTwoLands you're welcome! The lab is called Precisious Lenses and it's in Paris
I have the 135 and the 180 2.8 contax zeiss. They are both awesome. Will never part with them.
@@Mr.Monta77 Hey thanks for the testimonial! A few months ago I bought the Sonnar 135mm f2.8 and I'm happy to know it's a good lens, not that I had any doubts about the quality, but it's always useful to know the opinion of those who have already had the pleasure of using it. As soon as possible I will send it to France for all the cine-mod stuff and at that point, I think my Contax Zeiss basic/minimal set can be considered complete, later I would like to add a more extreme wide angle but at the moment it is not my priority.
I have a soft spot for the Contax Zeiss I think but I love the Meike's image :) x
I am the same I think :) They both are incredible lenses! xx
It appears from a couple shots in your video that you use the Meike handheld? How does that work for you?
Pretty good actually, the weight helps a lot. Of course you still micro shakes but I always like the footage I capture handheld with the Meikes :)
are you on the 6k pro though? since you like the 28mm is that on a full frame sensor?
Yes I am, I like my 28mm on a S35 sensor :)
love this video dude, I've been looking at the full frame versions of the maike's since I shoot a lot of larger sensors, I would would love to see your thoughts on those :)
Thanks mate!! I haven't tried the FF versions yet but heard only good things :)
Love my Contax Zeiss.
Me too :)
Another great video Flo! You're like the Aussie version of Denis Villenueve!
Haha thanks a lot for saying this!!
I would never put my name and Denis' in the same sentence haha but I do appreciate the compliment. Definitely one of my favourite directors :)
Great video, as usual.
How do you balance the setup with the heavy lens? Isn't it too front heavy?
Thanks mate!! You mean with Meike / 6K Pro combo?
@@OfTwoLands Yes.
hi , I just buy a meike lens 16mm t2.2 but thats not fit in my black magic 6k pro , what I need >?
Sounds like you bought the Micro 4/3 lens....did you find an adapter to use with the 6k?
Have a few vintage sets FD, Nikon, Konica and Helios and recently learned that the Contax Zeiss have the same coatings as the cinema zeiss superspeeds. So now i want a set 😂
Haha they are pretty cool lenses for sure!!
@@OfTwoLands great video and nice to see the comparison
I love my contax zeiss set as well, just need a wider option, the widest i have is the 28mm f2 but it's my favorite as well !
The 28mm F2 looks amazing and my 28mm is my favourite as well but the 18mm does come in handy sometimes :)
@@OfTwoLands i'll probably get the 21mm 2.8 , but the classic version since it's cheaper and easier to find here in brasil.
The 18mm seems to be an awesome lens, the price has increased slightly so i might grab the 21mm because of that
I have quite a bit of Canon FD glass but I think I'm going to sell it and build a Contax Zeiss Kit. I have a lot of vintage glass. My first contax Zeiss lens is a very clean MMJ 50mm 1.4, and although my Canon FD 55 1.2 AC spherical and Pentax SMCK 50 mm 1.4 are both sharp or wide open, that Lens has quickly become one of my all-time favorite vintage '50s. I figure I can probably sell the 55 1.2 for roughly 3,000 bucks in the market right now, and I'll probably use that money to flesh out a Zeiss kit. I'll probably keep a few of my Pentax lenses for a more compact film photography kit on my MX but we will see.
Hello! Thank You for a great video!
What do You mean by leica lenses? Like photography lenses? For m- system?
Thank you !! I mean Leica R lenses :)
@@OfTwoLands why not M ones? :)
I'm considering the Meike lenses, but want to rent them to try them out first. If there is a place that is renting them.
Renting is always preferable beforehand. I wish I could help but I don't really know where you could rent them.
Great video. Where would be the best place to shop for contax zeiss ?
Thanks!! I would say Ebay and any local online-selling websites like Gumtree in Australia or UK or Craigslist etc :)
CZ for my full frame DSLR. FD don't work without a focal adapter which is pointless. Those Meike lenses are very pretty though. Might have to take a look at their full frame offerings.
Have you ever used Rokinon/Samyang?
Tested briefly years ago but not properly. They were on my list for a very long time.
THis is something that still haunts me to be honest. though I think personally that from a true comparison the image may seem closer than people realise, while something like the even more expensive sigma or CN-E lenses the image will change a lot. not that these dont have the differences, i'd say the meike have a kind of a vintage feel they fall off more than other lenses and arent so technically great, which is really why people choose vintage lenses anyway so if you want a somewhat vintage look but with the perks of modern glass the meike are also a good choice here.
The old still camera lenses are appropriate for their era. They definitely have that "look". Technology since has given us new glass, and new coatings. Florine glass has a higher index when it comes to the refraction of light. A dozen different coatings now are used today. Better or Worse are affectations in the mind of the user, or puffery used by promoters.
it's time to try milvus ;-)
I wouldn't mind :)
I love meike
Me too ☺️
Zeiss every day of the week.
Haha, they're pretty cool for sure!!
I have only been able to score two CONTAX lenses (at an affordable price). I came in just a year or so too late to the game, I think.
I have a Contax 35mm and I love it! Actually I'm looking for a 25mm and 50mm as well.
The Contax are amazing! I was so close to get the 35mm but ended up picking the 28mm instead for now.
The meikes are known to be prown to chromatic abberations. Why did you not cover this?
Because in my case it hasn't been an issue :)
@@OfTwoLands That's really hard to believe at that price, but maybe it's cause it's a new line and they have fixed it. However CA abberations for me as well as hazing are some of the most important factors that should be covered next to usability. I am just wondering , enjoy all of your content though.
so thats why these lenses are so damn expensive now and i cant get any lenses for my CY mount cameras to shoot stills
What do you mean? Because of their quality/use as cine lenses or because of videos like these haha ?
@@OfTwoLands cine lens conversions xD
Hey the videos and care taken are always appreciated but I think they might be more meaningful if the comparison was more technical. A more vintage look or beautiful image doesn’t really translate to being particularly useful given that almost everyone watching probably has access to film emulation software and ways to manipulate the image let alone use lens filter mists or low cons. The mechanics and spec of the lens is usually what defines a lens at this level and specific ally breathing CA and fringing in general, unless it’s very specifically tuned. That said using a camera like the bmpcc6k is like using a veil. It’s look is probably what dominates the look more with the exception of film convert and really these lens differences really only become apparent on a more neutral camera IMO simply because the sharper more digital images rely on the lens to add character. Eg shooting on a Red or Sony is often where a real difference leaps out a little more. Most lenses can be easily adjusted to match general contrast in post so its the coatings colour and flare that usually denote vintage character. It would have been good to know what each did. Also with the 35mm version of meike although probably sharper than the full frame, minimum focus is disappointing. There are so many lens tests and so few are definitive. I would always recommend Duclos and Gafpagear to nail the relevant detail. Thx for the overview and your thoughts. Always appreciated.
Hey Ken, thanks for the input / feedback. I understand what you are saying and I do mention physical size, as well as the fact that the Meike is declicked, has T Stop etc. I also show the CA on the Zeiss for example.
I also reviewed all these lenses independently. With regards to the BMPCC6K it is the camera I used and so my experience is based on this :).
The brief image test was on the Canon R which is more neutral maybe.
I like to do reviews on experience and real world use rather than just specs. Gerald Undone is great for specs tests :) Thanks for watching!
Hey Ken, I have to say I'm not sure about this. I think often we spend so much time in the creative industry looking at specs and technical data when often the real answer should be in looking at the results that 2 different pieces of equipment are giving and saying, 'which is best for my project/type of work I produce'. Numbers, prices, specs only describe a small portion of what matters in what we do.
4:10: "Similar in Zeiss"
You say Canon FDs are more affordable…? I must have been looking at the wrong lenses. The ones have seen are even more expensive than Leica R
This is the first video i watched entirely for nothing.
This dude did a review about the most Obvious things. Meike Cine are larger, ooh really? Wow i didnt see that? A longer focus throw you say? Might need follow focus? Oh wow i couldn't make that case by literally looking at them. Compare Glass Quality, How much softer or sharper is Meike to an Old contax? How are the flares? Chromatic aberration compared to Meike.
This has to be the most pointless comparison video ive seen. Faaak!
Never said this was a review. It’s exactly what it says, a comparison. So yeah.. I compare 😅
Some things might be obvious to you but not others and vice versa.
Like I always say, don’t watch if you don’t like.
Comments on RUclips these days..
Thanks for watching! ☺️
@@OfTwoLands Oh I'm sorry it's not a review it's a comparison, Comparing the most visually obvious things.
Don't watch it you don't like? Uh right, how would i of known you weren't gonna Compare the Glass without watching the video first. 🤦
RUclipsrs these days only want praises.
Great video showing lenses. 👍
L’encombrement et le poids sont vraiment à l’avantage des Zeiss mais belle surprise ces meike ! Super bien placé niveau tarif et tu nous montres des superbes images en plus ! C’est vraiment intéressant, j’ai des bagues alonge meike que je trouve pas terrible terrible et ca me laisse une pas si bonne impression de la marque alors que ton expérience nous montre du beau matos et un joli rendu !
Zeiss 🟦 svp envoyez lui une mallette de 5 compact prime qu’on ai une nouvelle vidéo comparative au top !
Je vote Zeiss !
Haha j'éspère que Zeiss est a l'écoute !! Merci d'avoir pris le temps de regarder la video :)
Ces Meike sont vraiment impressionnants surtout vu le prix!