2022 Softail Standard STAGE 1 Review - Is Stage 1 Worth It?
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Here is a custom 2022 Harley-Davidson Softail Standard Stage 1 review that includes the exhaust sound of the SAWICKI SPEED 2 in 1 exhaust on the new 2022 FXST! Is Stage 1 Worth it?? This was my first time testing out a Stage 1 Harley-Davidson Softail Motorcycle and let me tell you, it was a night and day difference! The riding characteristics changed so much with the Stage 1 kit on the softail. The Milwaukee 8 engine roared without any boundaries and the 107CI engine felt like it had fast legs! Be sure to watch the Sawicki Speed M8 exhaust sound on the highway!
If I was getting a softail standard, I would most definitely recommend doing a Stage 1 on the FXST! The exhaust sound from the Sawicki Speed Shop was just amazing! I hope I get a chance to install one on my Iron 883 @sawickispeedshop8702 !
Special thanks to Steeve from @BarnesHarleyDavidson @harleydavidson for letting me review these bikes!
#harleydavidson #softailstandard #fxst107
Motorcycle: 2022 Softail Standard Stage 1 Motorcycle
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Stage one adds exactly what you want. When I bought my bike I was going to have the stage one, new pipes, air filter with the SE tuning done before I even rode it. The mechanic urged me to ride my bike for a week first without explaining, he said “trust me”. I obliged. Then when I got the stage one I was blown away just like your experience. I phoned the mechanic the next day thanking him for his advice. He said I would have never known the improvement if I didn’t ride it without stage one first. So glad I did it that way.
that would have been my advice as well! Good on the mechanic 😀
Cool pipes... we all goona get greedy n soon you ll be putting stage2 with cam job n aftermarket tuner other than sh@@ HD tuner. NEVER ENDING MODS N STORY CONTINUNES... looks nice 👌
Just hearing you be more excited with this bike, is fun to watch this video! 😁
haha yeah I can't control it - it is either out of excitement or shear nervousness/anxiety. In this case, it was excitement! The offroad experience was the latter haha
I might be in the minority on this but I've really grown to like the look of the 2into1's. That standard with the Sawicki looks and sounds soooooo much better than the stock one you rode.
you are not the minority! I am also on board with 2 into 1 exhaust!
I have a bassani road rage "ripper" 2-1 stainless exhaust on my 2020 standard and love it. Really love 2-1 exhaust on Harleys, probably never use anything else. Stealth pipes makes a really nice 2-1, if I didn't have my bassani already I'd grab their polished stainless steel 2-1
Nah man I love 2-1. Don't get me wrong I like the double pipes too but 2-1 just tidies up that whole side a bit.
Gnarly man! It’s always nice to have that stock to modded comparison 🤟🏼
yeah buddy!
I have a Softail Standard and just put a Stage 1 on it. I love it. Powerful and light. The perfect bike for me.
Im jealous! Enjoy your ride!
Light? It's like 650lbs wet.
I bought a 2022 Softtail Standard in February and got stage one done on it right away. I’m 5’1” tall and I went to the HD from a Honda Shadow Spirit 750. Best decision ever. Absolutely love my Standard. Mine has Rinehart pipes and it rumbles so sweet
oh--- rhinehart pipes sound soooo mean! congrats on your upgrade! Did you always know that you would eventually move to a HD bike?
@@KSMotoCafe yes. It was always my plan but I wanted to make all my mistakes on my Honda before I bought an HD. I really hadn’t planned on buying a brand new bike but I fell in love with the Standard. I’m so happy I got stage one done though because she sounds really thunder like.
@@christinebrayshaw4691 you made the right call! everyone should work their way up like you did. Now you can appreciate the big v twin way more :)
@@KSMotoCafe absolutely. I highly recommend everyone learn on a less expensive, less powerful bike. I was ready for the new power and ready for the upgrade and I truly appreciate it.
Nice, i just bought one last week, dealer told me a stage 1 will cost $1400, im wondering if thats a good deal or no?
I had commented in a previous video that I yearned for years to get a Fat Boy to replace my '09 Sportster 1200 Custom. Lots of nice people gave me good advice letting me know that the FB is a very heavy and expensive bike. Since then, I've been thinking that the ST Standard costs thousands less and weighs 55 lbs less than the FB and yet it's the same chassis, motor, and drivetrain. Seeing the Standard with the Stage One on it pretty much seals the deal for me. I think I like it a lot.
brother I couldn't stop smiling afterwards
The fat boy is a beautiful bike, but the handling is pretty clunky due to the larger tires. The softail standard is a lot more nimble. I love both bikes but went with the standard myself
KS, I'm so jelly right now. There are no dealerships within an hours drive of me and the 3 nearest ones have no bikes like this in stock. It's always freezing, cloudy, and raining. I got one cool but sunny day to ride, around March 10, and that was it. You're so lucky to have a dealership with test bikes to try out and weather good enough to make it possible to ride around. The way the weather is here (Southern Ontario), I won't get out until May.
yeah Bill, I do feel blesses to be able to ride what is available. But as long as there is value to my viewers I will keep pushing to do them!
Very cool. I'd image it sounds so awesome in person. I never really looked at the soft standard before but I wouldn't mind it either to get used to riding and then upgrading stages over time with my skill. Loved the review.
thanks Jason! I am looking forward to seeing what you chose for your first bike soon!
Apparently you can work the 107 to 128
@@soulstripper you sure can! But there's point of diminishing returns and I think 128 might not be worth the bang for the buck
Here is the stock standard 107 review: ruclips.net/video/1h-KlOIprWU/видео.html
Hope you all enjoyed the Stage 1 review! I know that a lot of my viewers have gone through the Stage 1 before with HD. So tell me, was it worth it for you?
The stage 1 upgrade definitely had a great sound. I may consider it for my soft tail.
yes!!
That full face mirrored lens helmet is successfully cramping your style. That 80s leather Members Only jacket look is one thing but if I was riding this beauty, I’d make sure everyone could recognize me.
I e been waiting for this video. I love this bike I'm a big fan of chrome and the smoothness of the 107 engine. Ive been looking at this for a second bike for my channel. The fact that it's a blank canvas and it's moderate should entice more people. I'd rather buy a used standard than a high end sportster or scout
right on man! thanks for waiting to watch it!
Good review as i am looking at buying the 2022 Softail. Clearly the stage 1 is worth it.
yeah man but it does get pricey
Hello again! My new Street Bob is due the same changes. I ordered a 2 Brothers 2 to 1 exaust. Should have it in a couple weeks.
Never was a fan of noise for the sake of noise, but noise as a byproduct of more power?
I'm ok with that...👍
Yeah break the bike in first, get a feel for the bike first.
oh TBR makes really nice 2 to 1 exhausts! I enjoy a nice throaty sounding exhaust but never at an obnoxious level. If I have to wear ear plugs due to noise of my own making, I would feel too bad for others around me to even enjoy it lol
Dude I love a 2 into 1 ! Great video
thanks man! 2 into 1 is definitely growing on me
@@KSMotoCafe Vader is the first bike I’ve owned I haven’t switched but def going to consider it soon
Yes with this bike and with the street bob you got to get rid of that seat first thing and stage one really wakes it up that is stage 2 is even better of course I had to say after owning it for 2 years I really enjoy the bank I just wish it was a little bit bigger because it's a lot of people think it's a Sportster but it's a Softail if you know you know
nothing wrong with looking like a bigger sportster! Stage 2 would be amazing
I got the '21 Standard ,Tab Performance w/Zombie Baffles she sounds mean already, but I'm thinking about going for Stage 1
oh definitely get it if u can afford to - stage 1 fxst is badassss
Love your review. We want one lol
I have a 2010 Fat Bob 96CU I put a Screamin Eagle air filter on it and left the slip ons on it runs pretty good could use a dyno check though
it pops a lot when decelerating
decel pops are signs that you are running too rich. Best to get it tuned (as you indicated) to slow down the wear of the engine
@@KSMotoCafe Thanks KS
@@KSMotoCafe I thought about Wide Band tunung also
@@KSMotoCafe decel pop means it's running too lean.
Just got my bike thinking about putting factory 47s fishtails on my 2022 soft tail standard
cool! do you have bags to go with it?
I DNT I just got it so has absolutely no accessories or Customizations just yet
I think it's a lot cheaper to do the stage one yourself. On my Sportster, I installed an Arlen Ness inverted air-cleaner, Vance and Hines 3" Twin-slash slipons, and the V&H FuelPak 3, total cost was about $1800 CAD, or $1260 USD. Made all the difference in the world. My only regret is not doing it years sooner instead of being such a cheap sob. Now I have a set of Progressive 412 shocks sitting on the bench so those are going on next.
wait so I have the same slip-ons and you are saying with better air cleaner and fp3, it improved the performance noticeably?
@@KSMotoCafe Yes. Compared to stock, my bike has transformed its entire personality. I've read that the stage one adds about 7 to 10 HP but I feel like it's got to be a little more because I can really feel the difference. The power increase was immediately obvious the first time out. Before I did upgrades, my bike had a tendency to almost stall every time trying to get going from a stop. I'd turn the throttle and it would lug for a second and then suddenly catch itself and lurch ahead. The cooler it was, the worse the hesitation would be. After the slip-ons, that hesitation just disappeared and it sounded so much better. Suddenly it was fun to ride because I'd turn the throttle and it would just go like it's supposed to. There was a little bit more power too but there was a lot of decel popping indicating that it was running too lean, which leads to the engine running hotter than it should. After installing the high-flow air-cleaner and then flashing a new map using an FP3, the decel pop is gone and there's noticeably more power right across the entire rpm range. I just love my bike now. It just pulls like a train. I installed the Progressive 412 shocks (mine are 412-4064C) just this past Sunday and I rode the bike to work and back today for the first time on those shocks and the difference is night and day. I started running over manholes and railroad tracks (without clenching up first) just to try it and the bike rolled over that stuff like a champ. No more spine-banging. Regular paved roads used to make my teeth rattle at times but now they feel smooth and comfortable. I finally now understand how people can ride all day. I never could before because the whole experience was just too rough and tiring. Now it's nice. With the new seat, new shocks, and the stage one upgrade, the Sportster 1200C is an amazing machine. From now on, my advice to everyone will be not to wait and to get the upgrades asap. My stock shocks were 11.5" with 2" travel. It was a very stiff ride and I always found the bike kind of hard to turn corners in town. I installed 12.5" with 3" travel on preload step 3 of 5. I did it myself in less than an hour. I'm lucky that I have a good hydraulic bike jack, a torque wrench, and a T50 Torx bit. The first time sitting on it, I could tell that it had been raised just a little and the lean on the jiffy stand is a little greater but not so far as to become a risk of falling. The bike now tips into turns with almost no effort and I really like the way it handles now. I would not have believed that adding 1" of rear height would effect it positively so much but it did. If anyone dares to go even higher like 13.5" or 14", be prepared to replace the jiffy stand too with a longer/taller one. I went with 12.5" because I didn't want too much rear fender gap but I did want more travel. I also went with the standard rate spring, not the heavy duty spring. I'm pretty heavy at 245 lbs and that's right at the point where it's recommended to go for the heavy duty spring but I read some comments from people who did that and said that the ride was too stiff. I went with the standard spring and on the middle preload and I really like it. Also, I switched from HD Dunlop tires to the Shinko 777 and I like them a lot better. They have way more grip and cornering is easier. I don't know if that's due to their profile or what but I noticed a big improvement riding the first few blocks.
Where did u buy the parts?
Pretty much anyone who loves Harleys goes with a stage 1 kit, then the stage 2 is changing the cam. After that stage 3 & 4 are really big bucks.
Stage 3-4 is saved for truly determined riders who have deep pockets or really want to keep their current bike without falling behind
looks good except for the blueing on the exhaust. I wonder why he didn't go for a stage 2?
this stage 1 is done by the dealership and they are selling it as custom fxst new
Did you say it's $20,000 they were 13,000 when they first came out that's when I got mine are they really that much difference now
$20k in Canadian Dollars.
Yeah, m8 with 2x1 it’s pretty nice 👍🏻
right!?
I just noticed the graphic for Steeve's business card. Does he really spell it Steeve and not Steve? I've never seen that spelling before.
lol he's a francophone - it's actually Stephane but I guess he went with the Steeve stage name.
I have a 2021. I was told that I don't have to do anything as far as the ECM goes because they already programmed for stage one. Do you find that to be true or did you have to do the ECM
just to clarify, are they telling you that a stock FXST is already programmed/mapped to stage 1 configuration? because if that is what they said, its false. Mapping depends on what filter and exhaust combination you install on the bike for stage 1.
@@KSMotoCafe Hello, yes that's what a service guy from HD Dealer told me. He stated, since bikes are already being put out with a high flow air filter, that my bike is the same. I informed him mine had stock air filter. He said, ECM will self adjust. I didn't that sounded correct.
I acquired the "stock" (high flow) air filter from a 2020 Lowrider S (114) which bolts right on and the Vance and Hines Big Radius 2 into 2 full exhaust.
well one indicator is if you hear a lot of deceleration pops from the exhaust - you know you are running too rich and will require tuning
@@KSMotoCafe OK sounds good and thank you.
Love the sound of thr exhaust byt not the look
“One of those Harley riders that likes to rev” hahah.
People think that we care and it’s for them or like we are showing off, yet the idiots don’t know it’s actually for us, I love the noise and vibrations, i rev constantly just because… I can.
hahaha you know it!
Bad Assery level achieved!
hahaha
What jeans are you rocking ?
these fortnine.ca/en/scorpion-covert-jeans
mhmmm I think a stage 1 is in my future!
me too!
Do it. Both of you. Worth every penny.
@@siskothekid4620 lol I just am waiting for the right products to line up to fully dive into stage 1 on my sporty. I dont want to do a stage 1 on my VH slip-ons.
@@KSMotoCafe absolutely! Everything has got to be right, don’t compromise. Get the finish and styles you like. The way a Evo sounds is awesome once done. Couple mechanics I know say it’s the best sounding engine for it.
You look a lot better on the Standard than the Iron. It looks like you are riding a real bike and not a toy. I'm the same height as you.
thanks! i agree but i cant afford the upgrade lol
@@KSMotoCafe I hear ya
This bike is 20k in canada?
$23k CAD
$5000 for stage one? Dude you could get stage 3 for that. Either the guy is grossly overcharging, or you are just wrong
5k for a stage one what aree you smoking. I work at a dealer and sell parts for a living that's about double the amount it would cost
sweet - you work in a Canadian Hd dealership? because the cost is in CAD and yes it is $5k for new pipes and mapping at this dealership
@KSMotoCafe that's insane take a ride across the border maybe because that's literally assanine in cad or usd
@@jayi.4687 yeah lol you should see the prices for stage 3/4 kit 😅 - this is why I go DIY route
We can barely even hear it
Vince &Hines be better