Thing that sucks is that College is no long amateur sports. Kentucky has one too. I didn't know about Tennessee... but Kentucky Football doing this was hard for me to take. They are my favorite team but I absolutely hate the one and go to the next school BS. There needs to be contracts set for 4 years or 3 years minimum. NCAA dropped the ball and could have been ahead of the curve with a sliding scale payment process or what ever.
College football is turning into a minor league farm system. Juco is going to be a single A farm league for power 5 college football. While FBS is already a minor league for the NFL.
Major football programs have been a minor league. The others aren't. It'll probably be that the non-bigboy programs will be the minors for major football programs.
The fans don't have to fund anything outside of purchasing tickets and merchandise. These universities could easily pay for this. They don't want to. It's that simple.
Judge only interprets if the current antitrust laws are being followed. Not if it's good or bad for Juco. NJCAA had a right to regulate the years eligibility before when basically money wasn't involved, but now that it is commerce it comes under different applications of law. The NCAA can't arbitrarily limit someone's right to earn because they previously worked for another. It's against antitrust laws. It's based now on commerce law applications and had to come about once college changed from amateur to pro.
Exactly. Kudos to Pavia's attorneys knowing this. The judge can't interpret the law differently because it's athletics. This ruling will stand unless the NCAA gets an anti-trust exemption from Congress. It won't work because Congress views this issue as restriction of trade because money is involved (which you correctly articulated). Once money is exchanged, the rules of business applies and supersedes the educational/amateur argument. From a legal standpoint, the NCAA's hands are tied.
90 percent of college players are not gonna make it in the NFL. They have to try and get paid now. They should give them a salary and get endorsements. Let them transfer once and that’s it.
@@bignagile4699 Nobody can limit employees making earnings by tranferring to another employer under and according to antitrust laws as they are applied when commerce is involved. They didn't pertain in the same way before but now those laws govern more specifically, they just hadn't been proven out until now. Took a bit.
@@jt9947 all the FBS schools pay everyone equally based on freshmen sophomore junior and senior then whatever endorsements they earn while they’re there. If they transfer they’d make the same.
John McKay back in the 70s had two JCs getting gpa's up. Taft, just north of Bakersfield and Arizona Southwest in Yuma. So the only thing different is time there won't count against them.
This is the same criticism you guys gave Deion when he took the Colorado job. Now that Vick is hired, the goalpost is moved. If he finds success then what 😑. Everybody wants the hot take
Not only is the ruling ridiculous, but specifically allowing this for Football only? This will lead to chaos. Wonder how many high school kids per year will lose scholarship opportunities over this.
I understand what they are saying but these 8th year seniors won’t be counted on to be the next generation of nfl players so the nfl won’t suffer at all
Once a top recruit goes to Juco instead it will make Juco be watched and then NIL will pay at Juco and next Juco will dominate for the ages that are 2 years out of college.
JB... you sound way better not cussing. Your channel will grow exponentially if you mellow out on that. It's the way the world is. You prob get a major coaching job. Gotta be an example or at least look like one for kids so say the AD's because so say the parents. Just the way it is. (and anyway to me your words carry so much more weight when you don't weaken them with profanity.) JMO
@@timkinley1779 I like them both fine. He just comes off way better on this show... I don't want to hang with gangster behavior and talk 24/7....and I played at Hutch Juco in the late 80s and went D1 so I'm no prude. Most the guys I know that lived in that culture are dead, in prison or headed somewhere around that now. They're definitely not ahead in life. I'm looking for some intelligence and it comes off that way on this show. The other just dumbs down everything and I end up turning it. Nothing wrong with trying it for a month and see what happens is jmho.
@@elijahwilliams4111I'm not into dumbing down the conversation. Especially with feminine feelings and unoriginal clichés. Some people are attracted to such things. Probably you.
Nice to see JB discuss with someone on his level of intellect for a change.
bofl both not intelligent at all
I can see the nfl not wanting to draft a 27-29 year old rookie
I could because then they wouldn't have to worry about paying that second contract. Once that rookie contract ends that player would get released.
Thing that sucks is that College is no long amateur sports. Kentucky has one too. I didn't know about Tennessee... but Kentucky Football doing this was hard for me to take. They are my favorite team but I absolutely hate the one and go to the next school BS. There needs to be contracts set for 4 years or 3 years minimum. NCAA dropped the ball and could have been ahead of the curve with a sliding scale payment process or what ever.
College football is turning into a minor league farm system. Juco is going to be a single A farm league for power 5 college football. While FBS is already a minor league for the NFL.
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Major football programs have been a minor league. The others aren't. It'll probably be that the non-bigboy programs will be the minors for major football programs.
100%
Real talk with Gary m for real for real. Excellent analysis
The fans don't have to fund anything outside of purchasing tickets and merchandise. These universities could easily pay for this. They don't want to. It's that simple.
Judge only interprets if the current antitrust laws are being followed. Not if it's good or bad for Juco. NJCAA had a right to regulate the years eligibility before when basically money wasn't involved, but now that it is commerce it comes under different applications of law. The NCAA can't arbitrarily limit someone's right to earn because they previously worked for another. It's against antitrust laws. It's based now on commerce law applications and had to come about once college changed from amateur to pro.
Exactly. Kudos to Pavia's attorneys knowing this. The judge can't interpret the law differently because it's athletics. This ruling will stand unless the NCAA gets an anti-trust exemption from Congress. It won't work because Congress views this issue as restriction of trade because money is involved (which you correctly articulated). Once money is exchanged, the rules of business applies and supersedes the educational/amateur argument. From a legal standpoint, the NCAA's hands are tied.
What if college football becomes more lucrative for players than the NFL? It's all entertainment and which will sell more tickets/TV contracts?
90 percent of college players are not gonna make it in the NFL. They have to try and get paid now. They should give them a salary and get endorsements. Let them transfer once and that’s it.
@@bignagile4699 Nobody can limit employees making earnings by tranferring to another employer under and according to antitrust laws as they are applied when commerce is involved. They didn't pertain in the same way before but now those laws govern more specifically, they just hadn't been proven out until now. Took a bit.
@@jt9947 all the FBS schools pay everyone equally based on freshmen sophomore junior and senior then whatever endorsements they earn while they’re there. If they transfer they’d make the same.
I think it’s great, the “free” market will decide who’s paid
JB has never been to Jackson State 😂
Ever lol
He didn't miss anything special.
He only recruits California and that's why he never made it to D1
Hatin ahh J.B. and dolphin teeth Whitlock 😂
Get your NFL players who played at AL to help... don't ask the fans for more money. . . .
I enjoyed this one. It would be nice if I got 2 more years of basketball, but at 46 with old joints, they can keep that.
You know whose happy about all this: the National Football League. They now have their farm system. High school < JUCO < FBS/FCS < NFL.
John McKay back in the 70s had two JCs getting gpa's up. Taft, just north of Bakersfield and Arizona Southwest in Yuma. So the only thing different is time there won't count against them.
I like it…college should be handled like the pros the colleges sometimes can ruin a guys career
Contracts, Salary Cap, Trades would fix all of this
Imagine getting traded to JUCO 😭😂
This is the same criticism you guys gave Deion when he took the Colorado job. Now that Vick is hired, the goalpost is moved.
If he finds success then what 😑. Everybody wants the hot take
Not only is the ruling ridiculous, but specifically allowing this for Football only? This will lead to chaos. Wonder how many high school kids per year will lose scholarship opportunities over this.
It’ll be for all sports assuming the ruling doesn’t get overturned
Stop pushing this narrative. There has not been a rule change for JUCO eligibility. Diego Pavia’s ruling is one court case that involves one player
I understand what they are saying but these 8th year seniors won’t be counted on to be the next generation of nfl players so the nfl won’t suffer at all
Once a top recruit goes to Juco instead it will make Juco be watched and then NIL will pay at Juco and next Juco will dominate for the ages that are 2 years out of college.
no one is going to watch juco 😂
Great segment.
players think theyre lebron so they leave early. but only idk.. 9 percent make the league
What if NCAA says kids can play longer than 4 years. Like 5 or 6 🤯
That’s the next thing. If this does become permanent, the ncaa basically can’t enforce eligibility rules and can let older players come back.
The die has been cast… lets see the next chapter…
So much better with out smitty and his feminist takes and feelings!
Another e-tough guy lol
@@CoreyDHollingsworth⬆️⬆️⬆️Another SnowBunn-e
JB talks entirely too much to the point he drowns out his point
JB... you sound way better not cussing. Your channel will grow exponentially if you mellow out on that. It's the way the world is. You prob get a major coaching job. Gotta be an example or at least look like one for kids so say the AD's because so say the parents. Just the way it is. (and anyway to me your words carry so much more weight when you don't weaken them with profanity.) JMO
His channel would grow faster without Smitty. JB needs to realize it and get a more likable, intelligent person who can carry his own conversation.
@@timkinley1779 I like them both fine. He just comes off way better on this show... I don't want to hang with gangster behavior and talk 24/7....and I played at Hutch Juco in the late 80s and went D1 so I'm no prude. Most the guys I know that lived in that culture are dead, in prison or headed somewhere around that now. They're definitely not ahead in life. I'm looking for some intelligence and it comes off that way on this show. The other just dumbs down everything and I end up turning it. Nothing wrong with trying it for a month and see what happens is jmho.
Cool story.
@@timkinley1779is smitty tea that bad 😂?
@@elijahwilliams4111I'm not into dumbing down the conversation. Especially with feminine feelings and unoriginal clichés. Some people are attracted to such things. Probably you.