Pacific Empires: Japan vs. USA - The Path to Pearl Harbor - WWII - Part 1 - Extra History

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    December 7th, 1941 is one of the most infamous dates in history but it's not the full story of how and why these two Pacific Empires of Japan and the US came to blows. Instead, the Path to Pearl Harbor was a crooked one, fraught with tense meetings, cultural misunderstandings, and dismissed warnings that led us into WWII.
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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Год назад +135

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    • @PablosOutdoorProjects
      @PablosOutdoorProjects Год назад +1

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    • @Texanprime
      @Texanprime Год назад

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    • @onehitkill5816
      @onehitkill5816 Год назад

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    • @PablosOutdoorProjects
      @PablosOutdoorProjects Год назад

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    • @digitalhistory8526
      @digitalhistory8526 Год назад

      @@onehitkill5816 because they also have some which are exclusive to Nebula as well I believe

  • @Oneryeone
    @Oneryeone Год назад +2817

    I wrote an essay for university on how the lead up to Pearl Harbour began with Theodore Roosevelt's arbitration of the Russo-Japanese war. I got a C because the professor disagreed, said I pulled my ideas out of context, and that I should have just focused on the Japanese invasion of China and the trade embargoes. I mentioned everything in this video, especially the Treaty of Versailles and the unequal naval treaties. After watching this, I've never felt so vindicated in my life.

    • @timothystamm3200
      @timothystamm3200 Год назад +235

      My professor in French history didn't get why I called the Ancien Regime feudal, you know despite the majority of France at the time being ruled by landlord nobles with peasants still being required to adjudicate things in their courts normally. Not to mention, of course, the absolutist monarchy was in the tussle it was in right before the Revolution because it jerryrigged its powers together by agreeing not to tax the nobles so they didn't use the rights of the Estates and the Parlements which were you know feudal in origin.

    • @fullmoontales1749
      @fullmoontales1749 Год назад +214

      History essays should be graded on the quality of the argument, not on whether the lecturer agrees with you.
      Roosevelt got the Nobel Peace Prize for arbitrating the Russo-Japan peace. I guess the committee didn't ask the Central/Southern Americans what they thought of him
      If I recall correctly the revolutionaries declared feudalism abolished, then tried to define it. Oops.

    • @timothystamm3200
      @timothystamm3200 Год назад +52

      @@fullmoontales1749 Well I guess OP felt he did argue well and then got dinged for having his "facts" wrong. I was talking about a class discussion where the professor essentially told me I was wrong to my face, and just because the Revolutionaries could not define Feudalism does not mean they were not in revolt against an essentially feudal government.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 Год назад +29

      I did remember somebody wrote a book titled "World War Zero" that did argue that the road to December 7, 1941 really started in Annapolis, MD in 1905. The Japanese really did feel like they got a raw deal from the treaty, enough to start riots. TR desire to make the US a world power left it with two enemies: Japan (who already has developed a sense of paranoia against them) and Russia (for "betraying" them). Tye 1905 treaty, though it saved Russia, ended the 100+ year Special Relationship the US and Russia forged...

    • @fullmoontales1749
      @fullmoontales1749 Год назад +25

      Wanting to be a world power usually does create enemies. Often the existing ones. The Britian to AMerica transition of global hegemony (give or take a degree of control and influence) is rare in that the fading power (Britain) didn't lose a war to the rising one (USA), but simply couldn't compete for internal economic and politicla reasons
      Obviously the USA exisst because of the War of Independence, to oversimplify, and winning/surviving the War of 1812, but they never actually conquered Britain and forced them to be a vassal or province. They just unlocked enough of North AMerica's resources to build a big enough fleet to rule the waves like Britain had tried

  • @ihavetowait90daystochangem67
    @ihavetowait90daystochangem67 Год назад +495

    United States forced Japan to stop being isolationist in the 1850s
    Japan forced the United States to stop being isolationist in the 1940s
    “History doesn’t repeat itself but it does rhyme”

    • @aquila4460
      @aquila4460 Год назад +25

      By 1940 the US was far from isolationist. American sailors were dying to U-Boats, American tanks, ships, and materials where crossing the Atlantic in ever increasing number. American float planes where monitoring the war for Britain.

    • @jonnunn4196
      @jonnunn4196 Год назад +53

      @@aquila4460 While isolationism in the US started to decline following events in Europe in the 1930s; in mid-1940 the isolationists were so powerful that the bill to establish a draft only passed by a single vote. That movement basically evaporated on Pearl Harbor; but had a revival in the 1960s in response to Vietnam.

    • @fullmoontales1749
      @fullmoontales1749 Год назад +9

      Trade and lend lease was one thing. But a declaration of war would have been impossible short of a direct attack (and remember Germany declared war on the US, making it unclear whetehr the US would have declared on Germany).
      ANd an attack on Hawaii and every other American island base they could find stil wasn't enough for a single Congresswoman, who voted against going to war, having also been the sole dissent (in the lower Hosue anyway) against joining WWI.

    • @matthewblairrains6032
      @matthewblairrains6032 Год назад +4

      @@aquila4460 I mean because of cash and carry it was British and Commonwealth sailors dying not Americans

    • @saddamhshadhin5641
      @saddamhshadhin5641 Год назад +1

      Ooooooohhh

  • @CaptainKillroy
    @CaptainKillroy Год назад +708

    You can always look at one event with all the knowledge and hindsight and say "Why didn't they just do this?" The answer is that they are not us, they don't know what's going to come out of it. And for the most part, these people either were to prideful, to naive, or to scared. Leading to the events we see. Most didn't want war, but were either in it for themself, their nation, or some other gain that put everyone else at risk.

    • @loricagardener4826
      @loricagardener4826 Год назад +12

      Don’t you mean “hindsight” as In looking back?

    • @commanderstorm8874
      @commanderstorm8874 Год назад +38

      They also were raised in a completely different way and time than us

    • @CaptainKillroy
      @CaptainKillroy Год назад +3

      @@commanderstorm8874 That too.

    • @leggonarm9835
      @leggonarm9835 Год назад +2

      Perhaps peace and not fighting would be the best option; but no that would seem as being weak.

    • @CaptainKillroy
      @CaptainKillroy Год назад

      @@leggonarm9835 As it always is.

  • @malachiphoniex8501
    @malachiphoniex8501 Год назад +799

    Y'all should do a series dedicated to the annexation of Hawaii. You guys are literally the only channel who does Pacific history and I know you will do a great job of it. If extra history videos are books, the last time we saw the Kingdom of Hawaii was them signing up by the hundreds to fight in the American Civil War and in this series they are annexed.

    • @crapshot321
      @crapshot321 Год назад +24

      I think they already did, you would have to go through the playlists to find it however.

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Год назад +50

      @@crapshot321 They did a series on Kamehameha the Great but the series ends with the beginning of the end for Hawaii but not the actual annexation. There are other series that briefly touch on Hawaii, like the Pacific Exploration and Sun-Yat Sen, but nothing on its fall.

    • @grsd8069
      @grsd8069 Год назад +18

      I have to agree with @malachiphoniex8501. I know that the annexation of Hawaii would have been too big to go into detail for the scope of this series. However, what was stated in this video is the simplified version of the annexation of Hawaii. For instance, indeed, there were a few businessmen (known as the Big Five, who were Christian missionary descendants) who staged a coup to overthrow the Hawaiian Kingdom Monarchy. Moreover, their coup was supported by the US American Navy due to false reports that American interests and lives being endangered. In response to those claims, the US Navy was given an order for all US Naval ships to anchor off of Honolulu Harbor and aim their cannons directly at Iolani Palace; then known as capital of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Some of your videos hint at the overthrow and annexation, but a mini-series or series of the pathway to Hawaii's Annexation would be appreciated. Anyway, keep up the excellent work! Looking forward to videos of this series and other world history subjects.

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Год назад +10

      @@grsd8069 Plus, it's an important topic for how literally one of the fifty states came into the union. I feel like I got one of the better history educations in schools and I literally learned about Hawaiian history in a paragraph. And just on a fun note, Extra Credits seems to have certain national histories they like to follow, namely Ireland and Japan, why not make Hawaii one of these ongoing series.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 Год назад +5

      @Malachi Phoniex
      AlternateHistoryHub did a very informative video on if Hawaii was never annexed. Its not just alternate history, explained what actually happened in detail and explained that by the annexation Hawaii was already controlled so much by US immigrant families it was inevitable that they would control the island, so the annexation itself wasn’t the big event.

  • @nathanseper8738
    @nathanseper8738 Год назад +194

    Yeah, in most school textbooks, they only really lightly discuss embargoes and the events of December 7th when Pearl Harbor comes up. I'm glad you're giving the events a more nuanced analysis.

    • @tommyfox854
      @tommyfox854 Год назад +8

      Sense when, where I'm at it either never gets discussed or is just brushed off as a "Oh yeah, this happened; anyways" sort of thing; I'm saying this because I honestly don't remember anything from history/Social Studies class. And I live in a more forward thinking state in the USA, New York, so don't ask me what the hell went wrong because I don't know myself.

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 Год назад +10

      @@tommyfox854 Public school history tends to brush over the nuances of world history. Hence why things like World War II are often oversimplified.

    • @tommyfox854
      @tommyfox854 Год назад +1

      @@nathanseper8738 Oh, really? Thanks for telling me that, now everything makes sense as too why every single class from pre-school to 12th Grade was so forgettable, because that's just how they operate, thank you very much doc, thank you so much. =)

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 Год назад +1

      @@tommyfox854 You're welcome.

  • @diggoryjaydark97
    @diggoryjaydark97 Год назад +182

    Naval warfare is kinda crazy, two massive lumps of metal with loads of guys fire car sized shells at each other while floating around in shark infested water in basically the middle of no where.

    • @swishfish8858
      @swishfish8858 Год назад +41

      And that's just what we have NOW - once upon a time, those chunks of metal were mere chunks of wood that would quickly catch fire in a fight, which means that you're burning alive atop an endless stretch of water.

    • @davidwright7193
      @davidwright7193 Год назад +8

      Almost all the naval battles of WWII either happened within sight of land or around convoys. Even two WWII fleets with a radar watch and CAP would struggle to find each other on the open ocean. Battles do not happen in the middle of nowhere. They happen at strategic junctions where trade or supply routes cross each other.
      In WWI just putting ships into convoys, so there were perhaps 6 or 7 groups of ships in the North Atlantic heading each way was enough to prevent U-boats from finding them. In WWII Dornetz would set a patrol line of 10 boats covering 150 miles of sea or more and as often as not fail to find a convoy.

    • @diggoryjaydark97
      @diggoryjaydark97 Год назад +3

      @@davidwright7193 I would count the middle of the the atlantic as the middle of no where

    • @takebacktheholyland9306
      @takebacktheholyland9306 Год назад +5

      and the best part about it is that despite the massive lumps of metal being the main focus, those little flies they use above the sky tend to do the heavy lifting

    • @pflume1
      @pflume1 Год назад

      What about the airplanes?

  • @Googledeservestodie
    @Googledeservestodie Год назад +53

    There are so many good possible topics in this episode. The fall of the Hawaiian kingdom, the Mexican-American war, the founding of the Dutch Indies and Australia, the Russo Japanese War. Honestly the next topic poll could just be a list of things in this episode that you might want to know more about.

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Год назад +4

      The fall of Hawaii Kingdom and the Russo-Japanese War have been mentioned so many times that it is kind of ridiculous that they don't have a series yet. The only other event that has been mentioned this many times but doesn't have a dedicated series yet is the Crimean War.

  • @jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344
    @jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344 Год назад +155

    One thing that should be mentioned off to the side is that the US Navy ran a series of Fleet Problem exercises from the 1920s until WWII. At least one of those exercises included the surprise carrier bombing of US military installations in the Hawaiian islands on a Sunday morning. There is a channel called Drachinifel that has covered these Fleet Problems in detail along with many things in naval history. It might be a good channel for those looking for more depth on these topics might want to visit. As an example, there is a 2+ hour video on the Zero. They "cut it short" to not "get into the weeds".

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 Год назад +11

      Yup, I watched the Fleet Problems videos from Drach. He noted that it seemed to be a theme of attacking Hawaii by aircraft carrier planes and succeeding.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Год назад +7

      IMHO some of the best videos he has done, was on the Voyage of the Damned. Oh man, all those innocent binoculars.

    • @zackakai5173
      @zackakai5173 Год назад +3

      Ah, a fellow fan of Drachinifel I see ;)

    • @ag7898
      @ag7898 Год назад +4

      There were actually quite a few Fleet Problems where an aerial attack on Hawaii was part of both the attacking and defending parts of The Problem.

    • @ag7898
      @ag7898 Год назад +4

      @@kaltaron1284 one of the funniest out of nowhere appearances by Drach was on the Animarchy video about the Russian Imperial Cruiser Aurora. Drach guest stars as Kamchatcha. And does nothing by says "hello" in the video like 3 times. It's hilarious!

  • @AtlasNovack
    @AtlasNovack Год назад +139

    As time goes on, Japan's history gets more and more context through this show lol

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 Год назад +5

      This channel really seems to love Japan with how many series it has gotten (for example I don’t think Spain, Italy Thailand and Mexico have had any, although some mentions and for first two there is at least Rome episodes).

    • @beeaggro2593
      @beeaggro2593 Год назад +20

      I think it's that one of them is an expert on East Asian history, so their wheelhouse is like China, Korea and Japan. Therefore all the East Asia videos

  • @Coiritater
    @Coiritater Год назад +84

    As someone who grew up not only in Hawaii but literally next to Pearl Harbor, I'm stoked you're covering this historical event with the level of detail it deserves.
    And btw, A++ on your Hawaiian pronunciation. I'm very impressed 👍

  • @michaelbarnes5223
    @michaelbarnes5223 Год назад +101

    With the Sengoku Jidai, End of the Samurai, Rise of Japanese Imperialism, and now WW2 in the Pacific, I'm loving the coverage you guys are giving to modern Japanese history! (Hopefully you'll keep it rolling with post-war Japan through to the present day. I've never understood how the "economic miracle" happened, turning Japanese from a devastated country to a modern innovative global superpower in so little time.)

    • @spaceengineeringempire4086
      @spaceengineeringempire4086 Год назад +9

      Boat loads of American money.

    • @zancloufer
      @zancloufer Год назад +8

      It's got to do with a combination of large investments from the USA to rebuild, the fact they could[had] build their entire infrastructure from scratch with modern/nuclear era methods and that they had to compete with American industry. Also the fact that they had no 'military' meant all the R&D and funding that would normally go there went into the civilian sector instead.

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Год назад +2

      The economic miracle stuff would be interesting. I would roll it into the topic of American occupation and cut it at the 1990s. I think retrospective history should have a buffer zone of 30 years. I would also love to see a series on the land war in Asia during WW2.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Год назад +4

      I guess we should ask for some Genpei war then.
      The economic rise of Japan is also indeed a very interesting topic. Maybe finish it with the collapse of the Bubble Economy.

    • @zackakai5173
      @zackakai5173 Год назад +1

      @@kaltaron1284 ^^^ this! Not that more recent Japanese history isn't interesting too (it definitely is), but if you start watching EC's Japanese history episodes in chronological order you're just kind of thrown into the Sengoku period with very little context. A series on the collapse of the central government in Heian-kyo and how the Genpei war lead to the rise of the Kamakura shogunate would really help round off at least the major highlights of Japanese history. A lot of people might not even realize Japan *had* a strong central government prior to the medieval era, and the story of how the country fragmented is probably more relevant to a lot of people today (especially if you're American) than some more recent stuff.

  • @stardestroyer0019
    @stardestroyer0019 Год назад +14

    I’m not sure if this was covered in previous videos, but a significant factor was the political maneuvering of the IJN and IJA, particularly the latter, to gain and exercise more control over the Japanese Diet. Eventually this will have to be brought up, because the political atmosphere led to Admiral Yonai stepping aside for Yamamoto to become CinC of the Combined Fleet and for him to choose the decisive first strike against Pearl Harbor.
    As with most history, there are a LOT of interrelated people and groups. The history of the lead up to Pearl Harbor fills volumes. John Toland’s book does a thorough job explaining the Japanese government prior to the Pacific War.

  • @emperorchampionthor
    @emperorchampionthor Год назад +24

    My great Grandfather Edward nickname “Eddie” was stationed at Pearl Harbor. He was on the enterprise. Well luckily the enterprise was wide heard from my family, broke down in the middle of the ocean but later found out that they were out doing practice divebombing during the attack and I am thankful that he wasn’t currently at the harbor during the attack. He later died December 10, 2001.

  • @dorsetball
    @dorsetball Год назад +29

    Finally done pearl harbour, I’m so excited for this series.

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz Год назад

      And without a crappy Aerosmith song too

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 Год назад +36

    Say, I know it’s a small thing but the relatively large island of Palawan seems to be missing from the Philippine map here. If the Philippines is imagined like a cat sleeping on its side, Palawan would be the front legs. The Palawan was part of it during the Spanish and US occupations.

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx Год назад +2

      its funny they put many other smaller islands but an island as big as palawan is left out

    • @watching7721
      @watching7721 Год назад

      Seeing different designs for maps, seeing what they included and what they didn't is always a fun puzzle

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 Год назад

      @@watching7721 the map of the Philippines as made by Spain , US and the present day PH governmrng always had Palawan.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Год назад +8

    1:44 "But now onto the infamy." Seemed to me like such a cool little line (obviously referencing the famous speech).

  • @colinbrown248
    @colinbrown248 Год назад +21

    Finally you made a video on Pearl harbor

    • @shivanshna7618
      @shivanshna7618 Год назад +3

      Who is that hansome fellow on your I'd ? Must be a priest in training.

  • @Spooky_man
    @Spooky_man Год назад +8

    This episode touches on SOOOO many historical topics you already covered!
    The end of the XIng Empire, the aftermath of the end of the samurai and the American civil war!!

  • @nickcoles9168
    @nickcoles9168 Год назад +19

    For those of you interested in the IJN and it's perspective just before and during the war I recommend the book The End of the Imperial Japanese Navy by Masanori Ito. It's a great read, beautifully written, and by the end had me crying with it's ending message. Its a must read for those interested around this topic

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Год назад +2

      Seems to be a bit difficult to get.

    • @nickcoles9168
      @nickcoles9168 Год назад +1

      @@kaltaron1284 yeah I got lucky at a used book store, I'll see if I can find a PDF. If so I'll post it below.

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Год назад +24

    I want to do some research on the Sino-Japanese Wars sometime. I don't actually know much about them, especially when compared with many of the other events mentioned here around the same period.😅 Thank you guys for another excellent video!
    Merry Christmas out there everybody! ✝️🎄

  • @MK53114
    @MK53114 Год назад +12

    I love that extra credits, in around 2-3 hours, can teach me a sizable chunk of Japanese history, from the warring states all the way to WW2

  • @andalilbitqueer
    @andalilbitqueer Год назад +5

    6:47- y'all excluded Palawan Island; it's bugged me since I watched this and Nebula, and I just felt the need to point it out.

  • @cdagyekybcrpaa
    @cdagyekybcrpaa Год назад +144

    One thing I should point out: the Washington Naval Treaty _was not_ intended to deliberately hinder Japanese Naval armament.
    One of the (many) events that lead up to the First World War was the naval arms race between Britain & Germany, and the WNT was meant to limit that build up to prevent another major war. As for the allotment each navy was given in building ships, it was far more complicated than simply one side wanting an advantage. You see, while it is true that Japan was only allocated 3 ships for every 5 that was allowed for Britain & America, Japan at the time did not have the same level of industrial capacity as the other two countries. In fact, at their then-current production output rate at the treaty’s implementation (or even during the Pacific War) they actually could not build that much more than the WNT limited. If anything, the WNT was _more restrictive to the American and British Navies,_ who both had a much higher industrial output and could produce more ships. Admiral Yamamoto actually insisted on Japan abiding by the treaty since he knew that the US alone would outproduce the Empire at a far greater rate than the treaty allocated.
    Another reason for the treaty’s allocation rate was simply a case of geography and practical necessity for the signatories. The British still had their vast empire back then spanning several seas & oceans and would need as many ships as possible to defend her interests and distribute them accordingly. The US is right in between two major oceans and needed to have enough ships on both sides of the continent. Japan, on the other hand, only had at the time her Home Islands, Korea, Formosa, the Ryukyus, and a few smaller islands received from Germany after WWI, all of which were within the vicinity of the Northwest Pacific Ocean. These were relatively smaller holdings compared to the British and the Americans and they ultimately would not have needed as much as the other two nations.

    • @fullmoontales1749
      @fullmoontales1749 Год назад +28

      So it was meant to be "As much as you need, but no more".

    • @cdagyekybcrpaa
      @cdagyekybcrpaa Год назад +14

      @@fullmoontales1749 essentially

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 Год назад +8

      Thanks for pointing this out.
      I hope it gets adressed in the Lies.
      While the debate of "who "won" the naval treaties of Washington and London" is stil ongoing (some say britian, some say the US and both have valid arguments), japan didn't necessarily "lose".

    • @thecoolerjon3506
      @thecoolerjon3506 Год назад +3

      @@Bird_Dog00 they got the 3rd largest navy in the world, they definently didnt "lose"

    • @john2g1
      @john2g1 Год назад

      This would be a perfectly acceptable argument except for 2 things:
      1. Racism exists I said just a few seconds before the US very specifically blocked any wording about racial equality.
      2. The Future... The US could out-produce Japan because the US is/was gigantic with resources all over the place. The UK could out-produce Japan because its colonial empire was gigantic with resources all over the place.
      One of the main reasons Japan took Manchuria was for its resources. Not to mention a population of people that could be forced to work. Even in the 21st century the Chinese are major world manufacturers. Imagine if Japan had forced Chinese industrial manufacturing for its empire.
      On paper everything you said is true but evidence speaks to the contrary.

  • @seekingcirculation
    @seekingcirculation Год назад +10

    5:09 I’m sure that’s the only time in history we’ll hear about a naval incident at Midway.

  • @palestinianmapping5724
    @palestinianmapping5724 Год назад +5

    Damn this channel has only gotten better in the past 7 years, not just consistency but improvement at an insane speed, Very Very Well made

  • @EmporerAaron
    @EmporerAaron Год назад +12

    Always enjoy a Extra Credit video.

  • @zackakai5173
    @zackakai5173 Год назад +9

    I'd still love to see a series on the end of the Heian period, the Genpei War, and the transition to the Kamakura shogunate. EC has a nice little run of Japanese history series now, and that particular chapter of Japanese history HEAVILY informs a lot of what they've already covered (especially the Sengoku episodes!)

  • @Pewpew1789
    @Pewpew1789 Год назад +4

    I love this channel so much. I learn new things all the time!

  • @FakeBlocks
    @FakeBlocks Год назад +12

    Do the Greek revolutionary war of 1821 against the ottoman empire next please.
    I've been requesting this since the first sengoku jidai episodes

  • @Frydrykmastkiller
    @Frydrykmastkiller Год назад +2

    I'm excited for next week. I'm going to go binge on some other series you've made the last two years.

  • @knightofhistory
    @knightofhistory Год назад +5

    I love these videos. I've been a massive fan for years! So much so that I actually made my own channel (it focuses on History as well) thank you for the inspiration!

  • @vetren23
    @vetren23 Год назад +5

    I like that you're using assumed knowledge from previous seasons to cut down o exposition, it means you can get more in depth with the topic at hand. Please keep it up, it's a positive change and opens so many doors to revisit previously explored areas. This is a call for a look at post independence India in some manner.

  • @camostudios7347
    @camostudios7347 Год назад +2

    I studied Pearl Harbor and the entire conflict for many many years and will continue to do so, but this helps me in my research

  • @Rbjorgen
    @Rbjorgen Год назад +5

    I have been using yall as a supliment since primary school. Now in highschool, I actually have use for your videos. Thanks alot!

    • @tykep1009
      @tykep1009 Год назад

      I envy you to have such excellent content to grow up with. Enjoy your study!

  • @Yeppo_
    @Yeppo_ Год назад +1

    Another amazing vid keep up guys!

  • @irenedeneb3500
    @irenedeneb3500 Год назад

    I love that the series on the Sengoku Jidai perfectly dovetails into the series on the Fall of the Samurai, which then flows into the series on Japanese Militarism, before concluding with the lead-up to Pearl Harbor. You should do a series on the Plaza Accord and the Tokyo Asset Bubble.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Год назад +9

    6:47 Every graphics out there almost always sinks the island of Palawan.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Год назад

      Have you checked if the island is still there? Maybe the maps are right. ;-)

  • @synsvids
    @synsvids 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for going in depth about this, I don't think I learned this in school at all. Only from my grandparents and mom.

  • @jimnicholas7334
    @jimnicholas7334 Год назад +7

    As a kid, my parents took me to the USS Arizona Memorial (spoiler alert! : o) and Museum at Pearl Harbor when my dad was stationed in Hawaii. I loved it. I couldn't get enough. I boggled my mind that things could be so different from how they were today. It started my passion for history and wondering about the world.

  • @colbyjackson6500
    @colbyjackson6500 Год назад +4

    Can’t wait to hear the rest of Pearl Harbor’s story

  • @DonWan47
    @DonWan47 Год назад

    Great video. Thoroughly researched and presented with style and humour.

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo Год назад +5

    I hope you guys mention the other attacks in the battle of Oahu. Everyone always forgets that there are multiple US Military bases and stations on the island, and that all of them received fire.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Год назад +2

      They also didn't attack "only" Hawaii but the Phillipines at (about) the same time.

  • @TheMysteryman615
    @TheMysteryman615 Год назад +1

    Finally I was waiting for this ! Thanks!

  • @thefrenchbaguette919
    @thefrenchbaguette919 Год назад +1

    Finally I've been waiting for so long for this

  • @lkzhang820
    @lkzhang820 Год назад +1

    A video that is beneficial to watch in the current situation.

  • @stevenuniverse1422
    @stevenuniverse1422 Год назад +1

    Rather wait until next Saturday as it adds to the excitement of the next episode.

  • @brianstephens7572
    @brianstephens7572 Год назад

    I first heard about nebula through legal eagle. I'm happy to see that this is becoming a growing trend on a lot of the interests that I subscribe to on RUclips

  • @josegodinezvaliente5140
    @josegodinezvaliente5140 Год назад +2

    Thanks been wanting for this

  • @nicholas209
    @nicholas209 Год назад +13

    The Washington Naval Treaty was actually pretty beneficial for Japan, although they couldn't have known it at the time. By restricting the UK and especially the US to a 5 to 3 ratio, Japan kept them much closer in fleet size than what they would unleash in WW2. 24 fleet carriers and 175 destroyers of a single class of each (among other things) is quite a bit more than 5 to 3 after all.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Год назад +4

      You can't really compare war time production with peace time production. Would an isolationist USA have built that many warships if not at war?

    • @susakuzero
      @susakuzero Год назад

      This was still a problem for Japan not so much the size but the tonage. Japan knew of course even if they want unless they realy have a qick victory over China and then enough Resources they could not match the US and GB in production.

    • @susakuzero
      @susakuzero Год назад +1

      @@kaltaron1284
      Kinda this. Also Japan was ironic enough only alowed this many Ships since GB/US dont thought Japan would ever atack them. But it was also still a way of kinda dissing them by beoing alowed less ships then US/GB.

    • @hexblade7575
      @hexblade7575 Год назад

      @@kaltaron1284 you bet your ass they would have, peacetime America had the third largest fleet prior to WWI and had increased that to the second largest by the time we entered the war.

    • @peterdisabella2156
      @peterdisabella2156 Год назад

      @@susakuzero Thats not really the case, the idea was that GB/US were both Pacific and Atlantic fleets and Japan was only Pacific. Its also worth noting that Japan actually was allowed more than France and Italy within the same treaty who were both allowed about half the tonnage of Japan.

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 Год назад

    This is off to a good start. I'm looking forward to it.

  • @LittleinnocentJimmy2
    @LittleinnocentJimmy2 Год назад +4

    I'm waiting that you're going to talk about the history of the Pacific war by the Philippines perspective

  • @ryanscheffer2302
    @ryanscheffer2302 Год назад +1

    As someone that has an interest in World War II, this video was very enjoyable. Speaking of the Washington Naval Treaty, in the Mass Effect series the Treaty of Farixen is based of the Washington Naval Treaty.

  • @fasdaVT
    @fasdaVT Год назад +4

    Glosses over how much the Japanese Navy was in favor of the arms limit because 10 to 7 is way better odds then the 20 or 30 to 7 that US and Japanese economies could sustain. The biggest problem was that it was a few percent lower than what Japan estimated they'd need to properly defend themselves.

  • @Ryu_D
    @Ryu_D Год назад

    Thank you for the video.

  • @chandlerdecker3807
    @chandlerdecker3807 Год назад +1

    Finally! The Pacific War. As a warship enthusiast I'm on top of the world. It's sth. to remember, but also sth. that worths looking into.

  • @ruelarila7201
    @ruelarila7201 Год назад +32

    Great video as usual EC! I really hope you'd eventually get to the Philippine American War and how the American government betrayed a budding Philippine republic.

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Год назад +5

      Ooof, that might be one the darkest extra history series yet. Definitely should be made but man, some things we did....

    • @GeneralLuigiTBC
      @GeneralLuigiTBC Год назад +4

      I remember that being a Patreon candidate a while ago, so there's definitely interest among the patrons. I think it lost to the Easter Rising. That doesn't mean it can't be a candidate for a later series, though.

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 Год назад +3

      @@GeneralLuigiTBC A worthy loss in my opinion. Ironically, as an American I know less about Irish history than Pacific history. I don't if that's a norm or I'm just weird.

    • @leguichettravel1599
      @leguichettravel1599 Год назад +2

      Perfect!! Because that scenario is mentioned in my social studies class in my homeland.

    • @AccipiterSmith
      @AccipiterSmith Год назад +1

      The things that happened during the First Philippine Republic are being repeated throughout present day. The consiquences of the past still haunts our current society...

  • @glasseagle8368
    @glasseagle8368 Год назад +2

    More extra history!

  • @rikuvakevainen6157
    @rikuvakevainen6157 Год назад +3

    Finally, after seen the events of both superpowers in Extra Credits it is time for the diplomatic dance between these giants.
    It's a facinating concept. You have talked about Japan's expansionism, its militarism and also US racial depates and their expansionism. All of those things are playing a role for the coming events.
    It's like you are tying the nods together for the big event.

  • @West_Coast_Gang
    @West_Coast_Gang Год назад +2

    This looks epic I’m into it

  • @owenthemousey2268
    @owenthemousey2268 Год назад

    woo new extra history series!

  • @comediccomrade5716
    @comediccomrade5716 Год назад +1

    what’s this? I’m early? And it’s on pearl
    harbor? INCREDIBLE

  • @Charles-hq7ce
    @Charles-hq7ce Год назад +8

    WOW this is odd. I was literally just thinking about pearl harbor and WW2, i go to check my youtube reccomendations, and you guys release this. Great job but tell zoey to cool it on the mind reading.

  • @USBearForce
    @USBearForce Год назад +8

    8:25 A major reason the Japanese received ratio at the 1922 Washington Naval Treaty that looks unfavorable on the surface was the fact that the USN and RN had to keep their fleet dispersed to meet their strategic commitments (Two Ocean defense in the case of the former, an international empire spread from London to Hong Kong in the latter case). Japan would be much more able to concentrate all its forces in a single spot. The ratios for all practical purposes gave Japan a seat at the head of the table in the Pacific.

    • @kwokziyi4937
      @kwokziyi4937 Год назад +5

      What you just said just confirms that the treaty was unfavourable. It does not change the underlying result of crippling Japanese naval power in the pacific. Whilst not endorsing colonialism myself, this must at the time have been hypocritical to the Japanese who would have wanted colonies of their own and saw no reason why their efforts should be hampered by countries who needed to spread out their forces because they already had carved out and enjoyed the economic benefits of their colonies.

  • @bautibunge737
    @bautibunge737 Год назад

    Great thing I have Nebula!

  • @Rhinoboy-jp6kx
    @Rhinoboy-jp6kx Год назад +1

    When this series is over can you do a video about the war of the pacific (the one between Chile and Bolivia)

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro Год назад

    nice to see the actual history of this be covered

  • @jeremiasrobinson
    @jeremiasrobinson Год назад +1

    Oh... I guess these come out on Nebula days in advance. Good to know.

  • @bricksblocksandbeyond
    @bricksblocksandbeyond Год назад

    This made my day.

  • @lkzhang820
    @lkzhang820 Год назад

    4:26 This treaty led to many interesting aircraft carrier conversion projects-such as Akagi,Kaga,Lexington,and Saratoga. The former two was the aircraft carriers of CarDiv 1,a unit of Kido Butai of IJN that participated in the attack of Pearl Harbor.

  • @Landmark-fo8dn
    @Landmark-fo8dn Год назад

    YES ANOTHER WW2 VIDEO IM SO HAPPY

  • @dingusmann3003
    @dingusmann3003 Год назад +2

    Finally more videos on ww2

  • @margaretkairu7418
    @margaretkairu7418 Год назад +1

    AWESOME

  • @mr.miyagi881
    @mr.miyagi881 Год назад +2

    Can you continue with this pacific theater stuff pls

  • @Kigge719
    @Kigge719 Год назад +2

    Hey. You guys seems to be missing the links in the descripton thats mentioned at 1:40 that has some background info that you say are important to this one.

  • @rayfgreenfield5114
    @rayfgreenfield5114 Год назад +3

    As a aspiring historian in college at the moment I find all of these video fascinating. Keep up the good work guys?

  • @gonzoengineering4894
    @gonzoengineering4894 Год назад +1

    Lions Led By Donkeys covered this subject pretty well in detail on their recent episode "The Dumb Life and Dumber Death of the Battleship Yamato"

  • @chaturanarasimhan473
    @chaturanarasimhan473 Год назад

    I love your videos 🎉👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @pushing2throttles
    @pushing2throttles Год назад +1

    As a teacher, I'm curious... your content on Nebula- with a subscription can I make videos available to my students?

  • @Townfolk778
    @Townfolk778 Год назад

    YEAH EXTRA HISTORY HELL YEAH

  • @ninjammer726
    @ninjammer726 Год назад

    Educational and I need more

  • @Luffingtoncloak
    @Luffingtoncloak Год назад

    Aaaah yeah yeah yeah more ww2 videos woo love your history videos

  • @BlackWater_49
    @BlackWater_49 Год назад

    1:11 Already doing that. ;-)
    (I just wait until all the episodes are out and then watch them back to back)

  • @Noidonteatbabiesstopasking
    @Noidonteatbabiesstopasking Год назад +2

    Another Japan series, awesome!

  • @jean-pauldubos9725
    @jean-pauldubos9725 Год назад

    Do y’all have a podcast? I see one in Spotify but it hasn’t been updated since 2019. You could do what economics explained does and upload the audio from videos to the podcast

  • @ag7898
    @ag7898 Год назад +4

    Pearl isn't the only naval sneak attack in Japanese Imperial history. They also did it to the Russians in 1904 when they attacked Port Arthur.

    • @jiyuhong5853
      @jiyuhong5853 Год назад +1

      pearl : by planes
      port aruther : destroyers

  • @motherbeanmtb6473
    @motherbeanmtb6473 Год назад +5

    I sure hope you guys get to talk about the battle of wake island as well sometime! My Great Great Grandfather was a civilian on the island and then later a Japanese POW. It is sad that chapter of the pacific theater is never talked about.

  • @Phoenix27272
    @Phoenix27272 Год назад +1

    Also topical here is the segment you did on the WWII resource war.

  • @edgingjogo
    @edgingjogo Год назад

    Nice.

  • @superchicken3554
    @superchicken3554 Год назад +1

    Bro i want to watch part 2 rn so bad

  • @blue_jbots5588
    @blue_jbots5588 Год назад

    Nice

  • @margaretkairu7418
    @margaretkairu7418 Год назад +1

    DO A NAPOLEON SERIES

  • @davididiart5934
    @davididiart5934 Год назад

    0:58 "The US _Specific Fleet_ is now a pawn..."
    Ah. Got one. This is looking like a great new entry, btw!

  • @in5linesofcodeorless552
    @in5linesofcodeorless552 Год назад +3

    Do one about the Manhattan project

  • @onehitkill5816
    @onehitkill5816 Год назад

    Im glad to finally be getting a really indepth view of the pretext of pearl harbor and what will happen because of it. WW2 may seem highly covered but its not especially compared to today's standards.

  • @Ozblu3y
    @Ozblu3y Год назад

    nice

  • @IntrepidIanRinon
    @IntrepidIanRinon Год назад +1

    06:48 The Island of Palawan: I guess I don't exist...

  • @donovanmoore2025
    @donovanmoore2025 Год назад +1

    After this series can we have more Byzantine stories like basil II or the life of Manuel the II or even Constantine the xi

  • @theindustry5475
    @theindustry5475 Месяц назад

    I did a family tree app and I realized that Matthew Calbraith Perry was my great great great great grandfather, I didn't really look in to him but I did alot about his brother oliver hazard perry, I guess I learned a little about him today

  • @brody1080
    @brody1080 Год назад +5

    Dude I love your RUclips channel and please after you're done with this series make one about the about the atomic bombs