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I remember, in the '80s, early computer games on the Commodore 64 would often have classical music - In the Hall of the Mountain King for "Manic Miner" is perhaps the most famous example - exactly because all these pieces are in the public domain. So these bedroom coders could get the sheet music, code it into the machine and have music to accompany their games. Though, eventually, actual musicians and composers - such as Rob Hubbard and Martin Galway - were hired in to write original pieces, as the games industry started to make sufficient money to hire in talent. If you've never heard a Rob Hubbard chiptune, David, I would recommend kicking off with "Monty on the Run" - that one shows off his compositional chops - and then "the Sanxion loading theme" - which shows off his technical prowess, as the C64 only had 3 monophonic voices, but you wouldn't believe it listening to that one. Another nice one is Martin Galway's theme to "Wizball". This one is a masterpiece of phasing and precise timing. Well, it loses steam halfway through - I think the effort of balancing all the pitches, timings and everything to make it all hold together got too much - but the intro is a brilliant composition of pitch and phasing and timing to create seemingly endless variety. I guess, technically, it's ever-so-slightly microtonal and polyrhythmic. Yet it coheres together just right (at least until it loses steam later on). You should check these ones out. I think you'd love the - admittedly primitive but highly creative for it - musical tricks these guys pulled off to make a glorified 8-bit "beeper" chip to produce actual beloved music.
It's important to note that while the original music may be copyright free, the arrangements and performances people make are not, so don't steal the audio from orchestra videos or another interpreter.
Great video! You should do more of these k-pop focused videos. I would have added "Feel My Rythm" by Red Velvet, which heavily takes inspiration from Air On The G String, in a very peculiar way
3:06 There's another K-Pop song, which is from Mario & Nesty - "Never Say Goodbye" that exactly inspired from Symphony No. 40 in G Minor. One of nostalgic & legendary song especially if you've ever watch old Korean Drama series, you may remember this song.
Dang I'm impressed. Usually whenever someone mentioned kpop songs that are based on classical music, they mention either songs that are less than 3 years old or only artists that are currently active but you clearly mentioned more BESIDES FEEL MY RHYTHM C'MON DAVID These are all the kpop songs I've heard that are based on classical pieces (even before watching the video) but I'd be interested to see if there were others especially from smaller or lesser known groups
I can’t believe you didn’t even include Red Velvet’s “Feel My Rhythm” which is basically a remix of Bach’s “Air on a G String” and they even got Seoul’s Philharmonic Orchestra to perform a version of it. It was one of the hottest K-Pop songs of 2022. What a tragedy.
Very late to this, but two of the more interesting samples I’ve heard from Korea are from BeWhy’s The Mainland (which samples a fairly large section of Beethoven’s Piano Sonata Op. 17, “Tempest”, and another fairly extensive sample Of Carl Orff’s Carmina Burana in the introductory track of G.O.D.’s second album. Plenty of K-pop music videos also feature classical music, as well.
Yes Red Velvet-B-side Bye Bye Itzy-B-side Snowy Cherry Bullet-Hands Up Dreamcatcher-BEcause song has Melodies in the chorus that are similar to Für Elise
Im a bit surprised that it wasn't included since it uses many different parts of it. Birthday could have been also included for its use of Rhapsody in blue, but that sample is very short tho.
What a fun video!! I love kpop and have always been intrigued by use of classical music interpolations in different tracks, especially when done well. Love your work, David! ❤
Tbf they are not Kpop "idols" as most of their coworkers in the industry are, so they don't need the 'idol' image therefore they can focus on being musical
4:12 it’s a reharmonization of Pachelbel’s Canon with a line cliche chord progression. That’s pretty cool! The pachelbel chord progression is a bit overused anyway.
Classical music can also be used as a point of reference for performances or lyrics. My favourite kpop group Stray Kids has a song Wolfgang. The title is a play on Mozart and "wolf gang". In the lyrics they mention being maestros and the music has reference to Mozart too.
Check out Dreamcatcher's "Good Night", which is based on Handel's Passacaglia from Suite No. 7 in G minor, both in the intro and the chord progression in the chorus. Regardless, I recommend checking out Dreamcatcher anyway, they're amazing. (Start with "Scream" or "Boca" maybe.)
Not sure it's specifically based on the Handel -- this is actually a quite common progression, pretty sure David even did a video about it. Though your comment reminds me of this....video ruclips.net/video/TdwqBRceOGI/видео.html
I'm watching your videos for a while now and I'm a kpop fan for even longer so this video makes me super happy. And, especially as a musicology student, I really appreciate your analysis
I find kpop more interesting than most of american pop specially in the last years. Even having some problems as a pop genre, kpop explores sounds and estructures in much more interesting ways, from Twice to Enhypen. I Hope you make more content related to kpop
Great video showcasing some of the sampling and direct allusions that the kpop uses as the basis to build their songs around. Some songs which show the industry going further in the modern day include Red Velvet’s Feel My Rhythm which provides a completely new counterpoint to the melody of Bach’s Air on G String, (G)-Idle’s Nxde which uses a chorus line heavily inspired by George Bizet’s Carmen opera, and Ateez’s different Kindgom performances, (the one I’ll highlight as most notable is their “Into the Wonderland” piece which takes their song Wonderland and overlays Dvorak’s “Into the New World” 9th symphony to serve as a counterpoint to the song. More modern kpop styles tend to use classical music as counterpoints or stylistic references and show’s how the industry has come a long way.
Thank you for this video. It is fun to hear the familiar pieces, repurposed into dynamic K-pop songs. The modern productions and use of instruments and voice are creative and exciting for me to hear. Composers of music for K-pop artists seem to be from all over the world and have devices for composing that did not exist 30 years ago. Would you like to tell us about some of these composers and their favorite music techniques, sometime?
As someone new to music theory, I appreciate this video. I love K-pop, but there's only a little content exploring the theory side of these songs. I was so excited you posted this! I'm not sure how many other k-pop fans/ music theory lovers watch your channel, but I hope you make more videos about it! I especially loved your video on The Beatles' use of Indian music theory, and I am curious about the use of Indian theory in K-pop. Idol by BTS is the obvious example, but there are other songs like Don't Stop by ATEEZ that seem like they take influence from it, but I can't explain why. Love the video! Thanks again!
You can also hear - 'Carmen Habanera' from an intro of 'Nxde' by (G)I-DLE - 'Air On The G-String' from an intro of 'Feel My Rhythm' by Red Velvet - 'Fur Elise' from chorus of 'Snowy' by ITZY
Didn’t expect to see kpop content on this channel, I’m so happy you made this video as both a classical music enthusiast and kpop fan :D I will admit that not all kpop songs sampling classical music are my cup of tea, but there are exceptions such as Red Velvet’s “Feel My Rhythm” I hope to see more producers sample classical pieces in ways that were heard in arrangements of pre-existing kpop songs on kpop survival shows, like “Road to Kingdom.” Kpop group “the Boyz” covered VIXX’s “Shangri-La” in a beautiful arrangement that sampled Moonlight Sonata 1st and 3rd movements… Hopefully this could become a trend in 2023 kpop? 😅
I rarely can enjoy classical melody on modern pop music, somehow they always feel… obnoxious and disjointed. What AKMU did with the chord progression was fantastic, it just sounds pleasant and feel more intergrated with the song. PS: I wish you included Red Velvet - Feel My Rhythm, I find it also one of the better examples of the classical melody in kpop songs.
The band Ateez mix their song “answer” with “ode to joy” for a live kingdom performance, it’s a nice mashup with a lot of metal guitars, kind of funny to see that in a kpop performance, check it out
What a wonderful video. The fact that you are self teaching without notations. WOW. RESPECT for all SELF TEACHING people everywhere. All the best with your piano course. I will mention you and your channel if I know of anyone who are looking for one.
*I am so happy you included Billlie b-side, Everybody got a $ecret that samples Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy.* I would also like to include other K-pop songs that samples classical music like •Red Velvet-Feel My Rhythm sampled Air on the G-String •Red Velvet-Birthday sampled George Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue." •I think Dreamcatcher-BEcause song sampled some Melodies in the chorus from Für Elise by Beethoven •GIDLE=Nxde samples some Melodies in the chorus from 1875 Georges Bizet's "Habanera" •Cherry Bullet Hands Up=sampled Für Elise by Beethoven (I am sure I missed more K-pop songs)
What's amazing, Mr. Bennett, is the way in which classical is being placed in a style of pop music, especially knowing how classical is shown to help the brain. Soooooo many things I'm thinking about right now. Thank you for this video and the education you provide
Do you Have a video where you explain like what notes are included in the II chord in c major and how much you raise the notes when you are going to the IV chord in the scale?
I always love these videos of critique and education. Not only do they bring understanding in an approachable way, but this specifically introduced me to the beauty of Ivy's Sonata of Temptation, being one of the most beautiful repurposing of the Moonlight Sonata I've heard.
I love that popsongs are using bits of classical music, but it gives me whiplash every time! It's like the first time I heard the Rachmaninoff piece that Eric Carmen lifted for All By Myself, but in reverse x)
Here in Scandinavia we have this thing called Protection of Classics, so if a classical piece in public domain is being used in a derogatory sense it could potentially lead to legal action. So, as a Scandinavian, you need to use your common sense when borrowing from classical works.
That's an interesting concept. But while I personally feel that many of the K Pop Songs in the video lack of quality and creativity (maybe with the exemption of the interesting reharmonizations) I also acknoweldge that those borrowings helps to keep those melodies in the collective consciousness.
@@sootikins Who gets to decide? In Sweden it's the The Royal Swedish Academy of Music. By what standards? No one really knows, as they have so far never taken action against anything. They have stated that evidentiary requirements are high.
All that Pachelbel reharm stuff is very interesting as a concept in a song called "Last Goodbye" given the original's association with weddings - very interesting indeed.
Bach's Air from Orchestral Suite #3 (air on a g string) is another one that has been used quite a bit. Whiter shade of Pale being the most famous but far from the only one.
Because most kpop fans are so toxic, I don't expect David Bennett to analyze kpop songs. Most Kpop reviewers cannot make unbiased opinions because they are afraid of big kpop fandoms esp Armys and Blinks
I think that if music has been in top 100 for a week, it becomes half public domain. It becomes folk song, when the folk can sing it. Not when bussines people decide.
How much music do you listen to in order to do your research? Or do you have people who listen to kpop who send you examples of Korean music with classical music motifs? I'm kind of impressed that H.O.T.'s song made it into this video because their songs are so old haha
Eric Carmen - All by myself (Sergei Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2 in C minor), Procol Harum - Whiter shade of pale (J. S. Bach's Orchestral Suite No. 3 Air on the G string), ELP - Knife-edge (Leos Janacek's Sinfonietta)...
Yay! I'm so excited to see that you've done a kpop-related video! I love that there's so much to explore within kpop & the fact that it can be so experimental. There are some kpop songs that I've hated at first listen, only for them to become favorites of mine. Kpop both exceeds and subjects my expectations. I'm glad to see more and more music theory channels taking an interest in it
One chord progression I recommend talking about in a future video is the I-iii-IV-V progression, a variation of the doo-wop changes that was used in the verse section of "Crocodile Rock" by Elton John, and possibly other songs.
Although some classic records have been influenced by early Bach successfully (Whiter Shade of Pale, etc.) if you have to sing the melody to Fur Elise to fill a track on your new album you're displaying that you've hit the wall of writer's block. IMO.
Not K-Pop but Rina Sawayama, also a pop artist released a song called Snakeskin with not only a classical sample as her intro with her singing over but also the final fantasy victory song in the chorus. I 100% recommend that and STFU and honestly her whole discography if you've not heard of her before
Out of all the examples in this video, I regard the use of Pachebel's Canon to be the most creative. It doesn't hurt that Pachebel's Canon is my favorite piece of music.
Is it just me or do these excerpts seem pretty randomly chosen. Like they have just thrown some classical piece into the mix without caring that it definitely does NOT fit there. I think only Ivy managed to do it well ( from 6:35 ).
Yeah, I actually once had somebody try to tell me that Canon in D is overrated (possibly true) on the grounds that it is "just a chord progression" (absurd; it's a flipping *canon* for crying out loud).
Ive seen people take inspiration from classical music in a creative way like, for example, Because by the Beatles. But i have never before seen someone just straight up steal an entire melody
La campanella If it's not classical music, you won't know. The fact that BP picks up samples I think it raises the reputation and increases the time it takes to talk about it La campanella and make the new generation get to know him more
OK, the Beethoven's Moonlight sonata might be sped up a little in the K-pop version but the Rousseau's rendition is horribly slowed down. It's the typical "your aunt" style of playing it.
8:07 "K-Pop artists are regularly lifting entire extracts..." Do you really think the "K-Pop artists" are actually the ones sampling and reharmonising the pieces? Give me a break. 😏 How are they going to even have the time to write the music when they're busy in the dance studio every day?
@@divinasi0n for example g-idle, soyeon writes and produces everything and they do pretty well in Korea. Also BTS who have like 90% of the writing and producing credits and they obviously do well, and especially in their solo work for example D-day by Agust d or indigo by rm produced by ... themselves, weren't that unsuccessful either
@@diemadchen4027 Cool. Admittedly I don't know much about Kpop, but do BTS really write and produce 90% of their music? Even if there was a talented songwriter in their midst, I can't imagine how logistics of that would even work, considering their job is to be entertainers/models - not just musicians. How would they have time to do all of that on top of taking on the writing/production responsibilities that labels specifically hire for?
@@divinasi0n of course over the years since they got more popular they also got more songs and songwriter offers. But yeah mostly the 3 rappers have worked on songs they all have their own studio now where they work on bts and solo music. Besides these 3 all 7 have worked on several songs over the years on albums. All 7 have released self written songs on soundcloud that weren't even officially released. And of course how could they possibly do that? I would say every kpop artist is working working working non stop due to the extreme working mentality in south korea in every aspect, not just school or job or office but also in kpop. And in between these "entertainers" are people who really love doing music and write music on top of the constant training. It's no surprise for bts looking at where they came from. Two of them doing music since teenage years and the group originally starting out as a hip hop group. It was only last second that they decided to start out as a kpop group making hip hop. And every member bringing in their own music taste from pop, to hip hop, to rock to jazz. It's sad sometimes that they're KNOWN for their big english songs while they're LOVED for their love for music and their lyricism. That's like the core of bts, if it was just for the entertainment I think they would have stopped by now (their song Black Swan summerizes their fear of losing their passion in midst of their popularity quite well)
I wonder... Is it _right_ ? I mean, sure, it is _legal_ to take pieces from famous classical compositions in the public domain and use as you please. But, again, is it _right_ ? Or is it just a trend that will fade away eventually?
Thanks for making this interesting video. There is also a piece of Beethoven's 9th symphony "Ode to Joy" in SM entertainment's song "Hope." It is most obvious at 2:57. ruclips.net/video/PNuIOqhIlGU/видео.html
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I remember, in the '80s, early computer games on the Commodore 64 would often have classical music - In the Hall of the Mountain King for "Manic Miner" is perhaps the most famous example - exactly because all these pieces are in the public domain. So these bedroom coders could get the sheet music, code it into the machine and have music to accompany their games.
Though, eventually, actual musicians and composers - such as Rob Hubbard and Martin Galway - were hired in to write original pieces, as the games industry started to make sufficient money to hire in talent.
If you've never heard a Rob Hubbard chiptune, David, I would recommend kicking off with "Monty on the Run" - that one shows off his compositional chops - and then "the Sanxion loading theme" - which shows off his technical prowess, as the C64 only had 3 monophonic voices, but you wouldn't believe it listening to that one.
Another nice one is Martin Galway's theme to "Wizball". This one is a masterpiece of phasing and precise timing. Well, it loses steam halfway through - I think the effort of balancing all the pitches, timings and everything to make it all hold together got too much - but the intro is a brilliant composition of pitch and phasing and timing to create seemingly endless variety. I guess, technically, it's ever-so-slightly microtonal and polyrhythmic. Yet it coheres together just right (at least until it loses steam later on).
You should check these ones out. I think you'd love the - admittedly primitive but highly creative for it - musical tricks these guys pulled off to make a glorified 8-bit "beeper" chip to produce actual beloved music.
It's important to note that while the original music may be copyright free, the arrangements and performances people make are not, so don't steal the audio from orchestra videos or another interpreter.
True 😊
also legal doesn't mean good taste xD
That's what MIDI and sample libraries are for.
@@Bladavia it’s not in poor taste to use public domain works. The original composers are all long dead.
However, snippets for the purpose of critique or education (both of which are applicable here) are explicitly legal.
Great video! You should do more of these k-pop focused videos. I would have added "Feel My Rythm" by Red Velvet, which heavily takes inspiration from Air On The G String, in a very peculiar way
i love that song
3:06 There's another K-Pop song, which is from Mario & Nesty - "Never Say Goodbye" that exactly inspired from Symphony No. 40 in G Minor. One of nostalgic & legendary song especially if you've ever watch old Korean Drama series, you may remember this song.
Dang I'm impressed. Usually whenever someone mentioned kpop songs that are based on classical music, they mention either songs that are less than 3 years old or only artists that are currently active but you clearly mentioned more
BESIDES FEEL MY RHYTHM C'MON DAVID
These are all the kpop songs I've heard that are based on classical pieces (even before watching the video) but I'd be interested to see if there were others especially from smaller or lesser known groups
I was in the car and heard on the radio La campanella, I was so excited to finally hear clasical music on the radio! Then it was black pink...
blackpink in your area...
and inevitably approaching...
@@actuallystop -BLACKPINK- Paganini in your area!!
@@peatatowhat the hell…
blackpink’s better anyways so
I can’t believe you didn’t even include Red Velvet’s “Feel My Rhythm” which is basically a remix of Bach’s “Air on a G String” and they even got Seoul’s Philharmonic Orchestra to perform a version of it. It was one of the hottest K-Pop songs of 2022. What a tragedy.
The real tragedy is that they don't spell it the "Soul Philharmonic Orchestra"
I was literally skipping through the video for that exact song. The song BYE BYE on their newest album mimics the fur elise melody too
Very late to this, but two of the more interesting samples I’ve heard from Korea are from BeWhy’s The Mainland (which samples a fairly large section of Beethoven’s Piano Sonata Op. 17, “Tempest”, and another fairly extensive sample
Of Carl Orff’s Carmina Burana in the introductory track of G.O.D.’s second album. Plenty of K-pop music videos also feature classical music, as well.
Honestly, you could probably do a whole video just on Kpop songs that use Fur Elise.
Snowy - ITZY and Bye Bye - Red Velvet also came to mind
@@ItsRadishTime Both track 2 of their albums that were released on the same day. Kinda funny.
Yes
Red Velvet-B-side Bye Bye
Itzy-B-side Snowy
Cherry Bullet-Hands Up
Dreamcatcher-BEcause song has Melodies in the chorus that are similar to Für Elise
when I saw the title of this video I immediately thought of feel my rhythm by red velvet, which uses air on the g string!
Im a bit surprised that it wasn't included since it uses many different parts of it. Birthday could have been also included for its use of Rhapsody in blue, but that sample is very short tho.
What a fun video!! I love kpop and have always been intrigued by use of classical music interpolations in different tracks, especially when done well. Love your work, David! ❤
Thank you 😊
AKMU has been producing incredibly musical & innovative tracks for years. We're lucky to have the talented brother & sister duo in Kpop.
No one talks about AKMU here in the Irish K-pop fan scene and it's so sad cause they're so goooood.
Tbf they are not Kpop "idols" as most of their coworkers in the industry are, so they don't need the 'idol' image therefore they can focus on being musical
4:12 it’s a reharmonization of Pachelbel’s Canon with a line cliche chord progression. That’s pretty cool! The pachelbel chord progression is a bit overused anyway.
Classical music can also be used as a point of reference for performances or lyrics. My favourite kpop group Stray Kids has a song Wolfgang. The title is a play on Mozart and "wolf gang". In the lyrics they mention being maestros and the music has reference to Mozart too.
stray kids world domination
Check out Dreamcatcher's "Good Night", which is based on Handel's Passacaglia from Suite No. 7 in G minor, both in the intro and the chord progression in the chorus.
Regardless, I recommend checking out Dreamcatcher anyway, they're amazing. (Start with "Scream" or "Boca" maybe.)
Not sure it's specifically based on the Handel -- this is actually a quite common progression, pretty sure David even did a video about it. Though your comment reminds me of this....video ruclips.net/video/TdwqBRceOGI/видео.html
@@TerraEpon the intro of the song is directly lifting a melody from the Handel piece.
They also have that verse in the chorus of BEcause ("cheonsa gateun eolgullo") that sounds like a nod to Für Elise
I'm watching your videos for a while now and I'm a kpop fan for even longer so this video makes me super happy. And, especially as a musicology student, I really appreciate your analysis
😃😃😃😃
I recommend feel my rhythm by red velvet! Great use of classical pieces which was Air on the G string on modern music
I find kpop more interesting than most of american pop specially in the last years.
Even having some problems as a pop genre, kpop explores sounds and estructures in much more interesting ways, from Twice to Enhypen.
I Hope you make more content related to kpop
kpop is westernizing since idk 2019, back from that used to be more "kpop"
Last years? It's been stagnant for a long time, 10 years at least. So long to explain why :)
Now it seems like it just becomes a more shtty industry filled with mass-produced songs...
Great video showcasing some of the sampling and direct allusions that the kpop uses as the basis to build their songs around.
Some songs which show the industry going further in the modern day include Red Velvet’s Feel My Rhythm which provides a completely new counterpoint to the melody of Bach’s Air on G String, (G)-Idle’s Nxde which uses a chorus line heavily inspired by George Bizet’s Carmen opera, and Ateez’s different Kindgom performances, (the one I’ll highlight as most notable is their “Into the Wonderland” piece which takes their song Wonderland and overlays Dvorak’s “Into the New World” 9th symphony to serve as a counterpoint to the song. More modern kpop styles tend to use classical music as counterpoints or stylistic references and show’s how the industry has come a long way.
Thank you for this video. It is fun to hear the familiar pieces, repurposed into dynamic K-pop songs. The modern productions and use of instruments and voice are creative and exciting for me to hear. Composers of music for K-pop artists seem to be from all over the world and have devices for composing that did not exist 30 years ago. Would you like to tell us about some of these composers and their favorite music techniques, sometime?
As someone new to music theory, I appreciate this video. I love K-pop, but there's only a little content exploring the theory side of these songs. I was so excited you posted this!
I'm not sure how many other k-pop fans/ music theory lovers watch your channel, but I hope you make more videos about it! I especially loved your video on The Beatles' use of Indian music theory, and I am curious about the use of Indian theory in K-pop. Idol by BTS is the obvious example, but there are other songs like Don't Stop by ATEEZ that seem like they take influence from it, but I can't explain why.
Love the video! Thanks again!
Whoa, I'm surprised that you didn't event Included Feel my Rhythm by Red Velvet. 😅 That's a popular song in 2022
You can also hear
- 'Carmen Habanera' from an intro of 'Nxde' by (G)I-DLE
- 'Air On The G-String' from an intro of 'Feel My Rhythm' by Red Velvet
- 'Fur Elise' from chorus of 'Snowy' by ITZY
ITZY’s "Snowy" too uses Für Elise's melody on the chorus
@@thiagogermano7947 thx I'll add it
Didn’t expect to see kpop content on this channel, I’m so happy you made this video as both a classical music enthusiast and kpop fan :D
I will admit that not all kpop songs sampling classical music are my cup of tea, but there are exceptions such as Red Velvet’s “Feel My Rhythm”
I hope to see more producers sample classical pieces in ways that were heard in arrangements of pre-existing kpop songs on kpop survival shows, like “Road to Kingdom.” Kpop group “the Boyz” covered VIXX’s “Shangri-La” in a beautiful arrangement that sampled Moonlight Sonata 1st and 3rd movements… Hopefully this could become a trend in 2023 kpop? 😅
There is so much classical stuff in kpop. GFRIEND Summer Rain is another good one (Schumann).
I rarely can enjoy classical melody on modern pop music, somehow they always feel… obnoxious and disjointed.
What AKMU did with the chord progression was fantastic, it just sounds pleasant and feel more intergrated with the song.
PS: I wish you included Red Velvet - Feel My Rhythm, I find it also one of the better examples of the classical melody in kpop songs.
The band Ateez mix their song “answer” with “ode to joy” for a live kingdom performance, it’s a nice mashup with a lot of metal guitars, kind of funny to see that in a kpop performance, check it out
What a wonderful video. The fact that you are self teaching without notations. WOW. RESPECT for all SELF TEACHING people everywhere. All the best with your piano course. I will mention you and your channel if I know of anyone who are looking for one.
j-pop but Chopstick by Niziu is a reworking of the chopsticks song everyone plays on piano
*I am so happy you included Billlie b-side, Everybody got a $ecret that samples Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy.*
I would also like to include other K-pop songs that samples classical music like
•Red Velvet-Feel My Rhythm sampled Air on the G-String
•Red Velvet-Birthday sampled George Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue."
•I think Dreamcatcher-BEcause song sampled some Melodies in the chorus from Für Elise by Beethoven
•GIDLE=Nxde samples some Melodies in the chorus from 1875 Georges Bizet's "Habanera"
•Cherry Bullet Hands Up=sampled Für Elise by Beethoven
(I am sure I missed more K-pop songs)
Time for a Twoset Violin crossover!
To me the KPop industry embodies an alternate path of the evolution of pop music.
at least they have dance, no shootings and good at fashion on instagram, hip hop is absolute degenerate garbage
Make part 2 and put Red Velvet's Feel My Rhythm please, hehe
Red velvet released TWO songs in the last 12 months both HEAVILY inspired in classical music.... could have mentioned them.
Ironically I have heard all the classical buts but very few of the K-Pop bands. (However, I must say, they are a little bit catchy!)
Thanks for including Vixx !!! they’re one of my fav K-pop groups
What's amazing, Mr. Bennett, is the way in which classical is being placed in a style of pop music, especially knowing how classical is shown to help the brain.
Soooooo many things I'm thinking about right now.
Thank you for this video and the education you provide
Keep those videos on pop/classical connections coming!
David Bennet Oppa, I had no idea you were a kpop stan! Let's Go!!! I just wish you had talked about Feel My Rhythm by Red Velvet!!!
You forget red velvet feel my rythm, what a song pal, what a... joy..
Do you Have a video where you explain like what notes are included in the II chord in c major and how much you raise the notes when you are going to the IV chord in the scale?
I always love these videos of critique and education. Not only do they bring understanding in an approachable way, but this specifically introduced me to the beauty of Ivy's Sonata of Temptation, being one of the most beautiful repurposing of the Moonlight Sonata I've heard.
I love that popsongs are using bits of classical music, but it gives me whiplash every time! It's like the first time I heard the Rachmaninoff piece that Eric Carmen lifted for All By Myself, but in reverse x)
Brilliant idea to change harmonies to familiar melody. Like in Canon in D.
Here in Scandinavia we have this thing called Protection of Classics, so if a classical piece in public domain is being used in a derogatory sense it could potentially lead to legal action. So, as a Scandinavian, you need to use your common sense when borrowing from classical works.
Damn, I was just about to sample some Grieg for a diss track xD
That's an interesting concept. But while I personally feel that many of the K Pop Songs in the video lack of quality and creativity (maybe with the exemption of the interesting reharmonizations) I also acknoweldge that those borrowings helps to keep those melodies in the collective consciousness.
Who gets to decide what is and is not "derogatory sense"? By what standard is "derogatory" determined?
@@sootikins Who gets to decide? In Sweden it's the The Royal Swedish Academy of Music. By what standards? No one really knows, as they have so far never taken action against anything. They have stated that evidentiary requirements are high.
@@j.lindback Thanks for the explanation.
All that Pachelbel reharm stuff is very interesting as a concept in a song called "Last Goodbye" given the original's association with weddings - very interesting indeed.
I swear most of the best songs are either based on Canon in D or Moonlight Sonata
Bach's Air from Orchestral Suite #3 (air on a g string) is another one that has been used quite a bit. Whiter shade of Pale being the most famous but far from the only one.
If by "best" you mean "worst" - yes, so true!
Is Last Waltz by TWICE did borrow a classical piece?
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K-Pop is great for learning song structure and diverse in chord styles/progressions. Never thought David would make a video on this
Because most kpop fans are so toxic, I don't expect David Bennett to analyze kpop songs. Most Kpop reviewers cannot make unbiased opinions because they are afraid of big kpop fandoms esp Armys and Blinks
@@tripleSSupremacy Well I admit that K-Pop fans overuse too much of their emotions than logics if they want to talk about music
I think that if music has been in top 100 for a week, it becomes half public domain. It becomes folk song, when the folk can sing it. Not when bussines people decide.
How much music do you listen to in order to do your research? Or do you have people who listen to kpop who send you examples of Korean music with classical music motifs? I'm kind of impressed that H.O.T.'s song made it into this video because their songs are so old haha
Eric Carmen - All by myself (Sergei Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2 in C minor), Procol Harum - Whiter shade of pale (J. S. Bach's Orchestral Suite No. 3 Air on the G string), ELP - Knife-edge (Leos Janacek's Sinfonietta)...
Girls' Generation sampled some classical music in "Fun (sweet talking baby)", but I don't know what piece it is.
Yay! I'm so excited to see that you've done a kpop-related video! I love that there's so much to explore within kpop & the fact that it can be so experimental. There are some kpop songs that I've hated at first listen, only for them to become favorites of mine. Kpop both exceeds and subjects my expectations. I'm glad to see more and more music theory channels taking an interest in it
This is literally one of the main reasons why I love KPOP 😂
Feel My Rhythm>>>>>>
who?
In fact, Korea remixed many European and American songs 20 years ago. Now these songs are also a kind of remix, but more advanced.
One chord progression I recommend talking about in a future video is the I-iii-IV-V progression, a variation of the doo-wop changes that was used in the verse section of "Crocodile Rock" by Elton John, and possibly other songs.
@Davidbennettpiano888 Stop pretending to be the real David Bennett. We all know you're just a troll.
I expect to include in this video the song of Red Velvet's Feel the Rythm. What a waste. 😅
Very interesting video, David, thank you.
Although some classic records have been influenced by early Bach successfully (Whiter Shade of Pale, etc.) if you have to sing the melody to Fur Elise to fill a track on your new album you're displaying that you've hit the wall of writer's block. IMO.
What they do with Pachebel's piece is witty
Great Video Dave.
I think that when I'm stuck I'll just wait for a good idea.
For Originality and credibility.
When Black Pink fans were all mad at Two Set Violin for mentioning Paganini wrote that part. lols
which song
Quite interesting, there are some of these songs which are very well using it
Also when drawing from classical music, consider using more than two bars.
Not K-Pop but Rina Sawayama, also a pop artist released a song called Snakeskin with not only a classical sample as her intro with her singing over but also the final fantasy victory song in the chorus. I 100% recommend that and STFU and honestly her whole discography if you've not heard of her before
what's the music piece at the end of the video pls?
Anybody know if there's anywhere in the world where guys like Bach and Beethoven and Mozart are still under copyright?
Out of all the examples in this video, I regard the use of Pachebel's Canon to be the most creative. It doesn't hurt that Pachebel's Canon is my favorite piece of music.
Eric Carmen’s All By Myself always sounded like it was derived from Rachmaninoff’s 2nd piano concerto to me.
becouse it is, he did a video on it to.
@@ThePapaja1996 Well, that explains that.
Is it just me or do these excerpts seem pretty randomly chosen. Like they have just thrown some classical piece into the mix without caring that it definitely does NOT fit there. I think only Ivy managed to do it well ( from 6:35 ).
It's just you
Yeah, I actually once had somebody try to tell me that Canon in D is overrated (possibly true) on the grounds that it is "just a chord progression" (absurd; it's a flipping *canon* for crying out loud).
You should take a course on lighting
a softbox and a backlight would do a lot (sorry for being mean)
Ive seen people take inspiration from classical music in a creative way like, for example, Because by the Beatles. But i have never before seen someone just straight up steal an entire melody
Nice job!👍
do a video about use of classical music in bluey
I’m not a fan of K-pop personally but it is cool to see how classical music influences it!
You mean how they sample it?
La campanella If it's not classical music, you won't know. The fact that BP picks up samples I think it raises the reputation and increases the time it takes to talk about it La campanella and make the new generation get to know him more
There were way less than 10,000 songs in this video.
I am amazed at the breadth and depth of your knowledge. You even know Asian music.
WOW Itzy girls open the video, my favorite Kpop Group.
Missed opportunity to mention B2TSM 😂
Tragic that we don't get any more than 4 bars of good music
Fr tho
OK, the Beethoven's Moonlight sonata might be sped up a little in the K-pop version but the Rousseau's rendition is horribly slowed down. It's the typical "your aunt" style of playing it.
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the racism and xenophobia in this comment section is appalling :/
white men be like
I'm a sucker for a classical music sample or interpolation
I lift chords from the greats to use all the time while composing. But never the melody.
8:07 "K-Pop artists are regularly lifting entire extracts..." Do you really think the "K-Pop artists" are actually the ones sampling and reharmonising the pieces? Give me a break. 😏 How are they going to even have the time to write the music when they're busy in the dance studio every day?
Depends on the kpop artists, some of them produce absolutely everything, others, just lyrics, and others, just sing for it.
@@nickwolf6116 That's interesting. The artists who produce absolutely everything... are they doing well in the charts?
@@divinasi0n for example g-idle, soyeon writes and produces everything and they do pretty well in Korea. Also BTS who have like 90% of the writing and producing credits and they obviously do well, and especially in their solo work for example D-day by Agust d or indigo by rm produced by ... themselves, weren't that unsuccessful either
@@diemadchen4027 Cool. Admittedly I don't know much about Kpop, but do BTS really write and produce 90% of their music? Even if there was a talented songwriter in their midst, I can't imagine how logistics of that would even work, considering their job is to be entertainers/models - not just musicians. How would they have time to do all of that on top of taking on the writing/production responsibilities that labels specifically hire for?
@@divinasi0n of course over the years since they got more popular they also got more songs and songwriter offers. But yeah mostly the 3 rappers have worked on songs they all have their own studio now where they work on bts and solo music. Besides these 3 all 7 have worked on several songs over the years on albums. All 7 have released self written songs on soundcloud that weren't even officially released. And of course how could they possibly do that? I would say every kpop artist is working working working non stop due to the extreme working mentality in south korea in every aspect, not just school or job or office but also in kpop. And in between these "entertainers" are people who really love doing music and write music on top of the constant training. It's no surprise for bts looking at where they came from. Two of them doing music since teenage years and the group originally starting out as a hip hop group. It was only last second that they decided to start out as a kpop group making hip hop. And every member bringing in their own music taste from pop, to hip hop, to rock to jazz. It's sad sometimes that they're KNOWN for their big english songs while they're LOVED for their love for music and their lyricism. That's like the core of bts, if it was just for the entertainment I think they would have stopped by now
(their song Black Swan summerizes their fear of losing their passion in midst of their popularity quite well)
I wonder... Is it _right_ ? I mean, sure, it is _legal_ to take pieces from famous classical compositions in the public domain and use as you please. But, again, is it _right_ ? Or is it just a trend that will fade away eventually?
Wow, thats interesting, i was not familiar with k-pop at all, gotta say tho, it sounds very busy, they're basically using 2 different lead melodys
Thanks for making this interesting video. There is also a piece of Beethoven's 9th symphony "Ode to Joy" in SM entertainment's song "Hope." It is most obvious at 2:57. ruclips.net/video/PNuIOqhIlGU/видео.html
Cheers David
hope Blackpink fans don't come after you like they did with TwoSet Violin 😅
Maybe it was the classical composers who drew inspiration from Kpop???
Here's a great compilation of Kpop songs with Classical music from Reacttothek!
ruclips.net/video/Nn0MRCmJyQo/видео.html
I thought this said 10,000/10k pop songs
I don't mind treating classical music as a sample, but taking a much longer piece of melody seems... kind of lazy?