Best Bushcraft Knife? - Mora Garberg Carbon vs Stainless
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- The Mora Garberg Carbon is a long-awaited version of their full tang design that first debuted in stainless. Both knives feature a sharpened 90° spine, Scandi grind, 3.2 mm (1/8") thick blade and a symmetrical synthetic handle that works well will multiple grips. In this video we take a look at both and try to start a fling and steel fire with the carbon model.
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I am swedish. Swedes are proud of Morakniven. That is real quality right there. Every carpenter have a Mora knife hanging on their trousers. We even call any knife "morakniv", like "do you have a morakniv?". Then everybody knows what type of knife that is needed.
Great quality ! Great company !
I am from Germany and I use a garberg side a few years. I can highly recommend it. And the blade length makes it a legal choice for edc carry in Germany, which was important for me.
I have a Mora Companion that I usually use around here at the house and up here locally in our woods.
But when I want to go out here and do some serious bushcrafting I use my Mora Garberg carbon blade. I am an old-school person so I like my carbon over stainless steel. I guess it's just an old people thing. I would rather much have a Garberg then a high price
Knife because the high price knives are nowhere near as good as my Garber!
@@UnfinishedSymphony ...I love Germany. I was stationed in Schweinfurt when I was in the Army. I had a lot of fun. It was an amazing time. I was there when the Wall came down, Germany won the world cup and the first gulf war kicked off. It was a crazy time.
I bought the carbon last spring. Over the course of 1 camping season the Mora Garberg Carbon has become my #1 go to knife. So much so I bought a real nice set of sharpening stones and a leather strop with which to sharpen it. I’ve watched several RUclips videos on how to sharpen the scandi grind correctly, and when done correctly, will shave hair no problem. Thank you Sweden.
I'd recommend trying to keep the micro bevel, or kinda stropping it into a small secondary convex cause I've done a zero scandi on a garberg in the past and it started getting dings and rolls much easier.
If you also want to prepare a meal with the knife, I recommend the stainless version, because the carbon version is not neutral, the steel reacts with acids and leaves an aftertaste.
But the stainless also has many more alloys in it, whereas the carbon is very close to pure iron. And iron is harmless to the human body, as is carbon, being how our biology needs it. Our biology doesn't, however need many of the alloys they put in even basic stainless, and some you most definitely do not want to be injesting.
thanks. that helps make up my mind. also, i keep reading how easily the carbon steel rusts.
Brian I really enjoyed your presentation of the Mora Garberg. I have carbon version and I absolutely love this knife. I experienced something really unique when I was unboxing this knife. As I was taking the knife out of the box I grabbed the handle and I knew that this knife was really something special tight then after there.
*right then and there
Hi Dave. Thank's for the great review. My choice is the stainless. I live in Victoria Australia in the high country. I've had many carbon knives before and although great they are hard to maintain because of the excessive moisture we have here. Always having to remember to oil the knife and constantly cleaning surface rust when you forget to oil it becomes a headache after awhile. So stainless is my choice. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you! Was looking for a comment like this!
Both... but stainless version better for my ecosystem... salsa 💃 😂
Enjoyed it Bryan! I got the Kansbol and another knife for my Birthday back in January. I love the Kansbol, and the handle great. Back in March got me a Eldris, found so many uses for the little knife. Now my wife wants one. The Garberg is on my list, but I think I'll get a stainless steel one. Great to see their balanced!
The Eldris is very handy. I'll be showing that one too soon.
Both knives seem awesome but I would choose the carbon steel just for the extra fire starting abilities and ease of sharpening in the field.
I agree
Jeff Smith hello there.i am getting wherei like carbon blades .but a trade off .rust oil they.😀
What do you mean by "extra fire starting abilities"?
@@silvanigra with carbon steels you can get a spark off of them with flint where stainless will not spark. You could use the spine of the carbon knife like a flint and steel in an emergency situation.
hilarious, stainless sharpens easier and retains edge longer and doesn't rust.
Great video, thanks for the review. Mora is great option whether you like Dave or not. For everyone whining about Dave, we live in a free nation.............so you can disagree with him, not like him, or you can like him guess what, it's ok the world will continue to spin either way.
indeed
Got both because of your great review. Well said buddy! Stay healthy and powerful. Regards from Sparta, Hellas.
Thanks
Here in Australia it’s difficult to find a knife shop with a good variety of types and brands so you’d be lucky to be able to hold one in the hand that you’re interested in before you buy. I was lucky I bought a Garberg carbon online for my first bushcraft/survival knife and was pleasantly surprised at how good it feels in the hand.
@OnitsukaTiger82 Thanks for that, I'm not too far from Sydney so I'll make an effort to go there and have a look.
G'day Bryan. Great review. I'm born and bread in Sweden but moved to the "Big island down under" 25 years ago. My first knife was given to me at the age of 5, about to turn 6. My granddad gave it to me and taught me how to use it. It was a Mora Scout with birch handle and natural tan leather sheath. I wish I still had that but sadly it is long gone. I have had NUMEROUS "Moraknivar" (plural) since then. Mostly the cheap tradies tool knife that is used from anything like carving timber, cutting electric wiring, digging and scraping off slag when welding.
I am about to buy a Garberg as my previous go to bush knife was stolen with my bug-out/bush craft bag during a burglary recently. I am literally contemplating buying both a stainless and a carbon steel model as I really can't make up my mind hahaha. Anyway, it will possibly come to flipping a coin. Another mentioning of my grand dad; when he taught me how to and how NOT to use a knife, he said "When you cut yourself, you know you have used it the wrong way". He said WHEN, not IF. And 50 years later, I still hear his bloody comment in my head while occasionally running for a band-aid LOL. Heads up, the Mora Knife is pronounced "Mora Kneeve" with sounding "K". Thanks for a cool channel. Cheers. Perry.
He did say it right towards the end of video and this is an old video. For you it was 5 years old already 😂
Wow, your mention of Mr. Canterbury sure set off the Sirens of Whine. If you don't like Dave, then don't watch him or buy his products. If you have a problem with him say it to him! What do you think Bryan is going to do, ring him up and say "Oh, hey Dave, I've got a guy who thinks you're a sell out."? This is Bryan's channel, don't complain at him about someone else on it. Another great video Bryan, keep up the good work!
Thanks for the support Bob!
Stolen valour..
+Bob Ashmore. I like the videos and channel of Bryan. But it's Bryans choice to put the recommendations or statements of Dave into his videos. So according to Bryan the Garberg is the knife of choice now if Dave was to take only one knife (one tool option). Now is that comment used to make Bryans channel more believable or to make Dave more like a survival hero? I put much more value into Bryan then I will ever in Dave. So I suggest that Bryan gives his opinion about knives and leave it at that. If Fiskars would pay Dave a million Dave would recommend Fiskars. So why mention lying Dave in the video at all?
Dave has come clean so let it go already life is too short.
That was well put.
Just earned another sub. Great info and skills keep up the good work OT.
That carbon steel really throws sparks for flint and steel fire. I don't do flint and steel, so I would probably go with stainless steel for easier maintenance. Their SS is very good steel (Sandvik I believe). Thanks for showing it Bryan!
Yes it is
Thanks for your good movie Both knives performed well and were similar So what is the difference between these two models of knives?
@@farhad_tulip The stain resistance. The Stainless steel model, doesn't rust, the black one is a bit harder steel but it's not stainless steel and it will rust if you leave it with water on the blade. That's why it has that black coating, to prevent it from rusting. The stainless steel is softer and tougher but will be way more time consuming to sharpen. Everything else,like sheath and handle, are exactly the same. Just keep in mind, that they both come in 3 different sheaths. (Comon plastic, multimount and leather)
@@greekveteran2715
Thank you for your very good and complete answer, my good friend
@@farhad_tulip You welcome!! Greetings from Crete Island of Greece!
Did you hear us all yelling for you to drop the bird's nest? YOW! LOL.
I give 100%
👍 Very good review of these knives.
I have the carbon steel version simply because I like carbon steel. Most people who have both say they are about equal with SS being more corrosion resistive and CS having the flint & steel capability.
The hype about a full tang knife or a “survival” knife is all marketing propaganda IMHO. I can do any knife task with my Mora Classic 2c that I can do with my Garberg. I convexed the edges on both because that is the best edge geometry, IMHO. I also squared off a section of the spine on the Classic 2 and rounded off all but a section of spine on the Garberg.
The Garberg knives are very good knives, but at the end of the day a sharpened piece of steel is a sharpened piece of steel. Some folks still believe the BK2 and Tom Brown Tracker are good knives. 🤷🏻♂️
In any event thank you for sharing your views on these knives. Nice to know they passed your world famous balance test. 😄
Yes the Walmart knock off from Walmart after all it cost $2.83 how good can it be. I enjoy your channel so very much and the critick that you do for us. Don't pay attention to the hatters they are irrelevant. Keep up the good work and don't change anything. Thank you
The Air Defense Sargent
Excellent video and exhibition mister! The Bearded Green Beret gave the same thumbs up you did on this knife and I will soon grab a couple. Really like the grind on that thing too.
It is a good one.
Great video Bryan on the Mora kniiiv. Stainless is the way to go;)
It probably is for a mighty slayer of fish like you Magnus ;-)
I also prefer stainless. Keeps the edge longer and is similarly easy to sharpen.
Great video anyway! Thanks.
I bought the stainless because it matches the stainless steel Eldris which I stuck onto the Garberg sheath, makes a nice pair.
Will pick up the carbon version one day with the leather sheath. Stainless for times when prepping food and bushcraft and carbon for bushcraft only times
Cool
I hate moras!
Ever since my 1st one, both my expensive knives and home made knives sit in the basement idling.
Mora does it all.
;-)
Lol truth. They punch way above their weight. I love it over Esee
Mora is like the Glock of Knives.
Führe sie Jagdlich...brauche 2 Messer zum Aufbrechen von Schwarzwild... Top Messer... Gruß aus Kärnten Austria....😊
The scandi grind is a nice touch and lends to better honing.
Thanks Brian . Complete, comprehensive review of both from the "world wide headquarters".
Both would be great knives, only difference would be preference of material. Create different care , only concern.
Thanks for the effort and time. Keep up good work there buddy.
Glad to see you spell your name correctly ! haha
Thanks. I appreciate it.
Thanks for your videos you are one of the ones thats inspired me to start bushcrafting
Nicely done review!!! Thanks
David Canterbury said that!? Maybe only if his choice was only a Mora Knife. Don't get me wrong, I love my Moras. Thanks for your videos; they are always good.
Nice bow drill example btw!
To me a knife isn’t a knife unless you can THROW IT! Well done 👍 mate
Thanks. I appreciate it.
I love batoning with a knife. not only does it work well but i feel it's safer as it's not as heavy and bulky as a hatchet
I agree, its also practically impossible to injure yourself batonning, as both hands are occupied and out of the way of the blade.
I own 2 Moras, fantastic knives. Thanks Brian, always enjoy your vids !
Thanks. I appreciate it.
Thanks , another knife I gotta have !!!!
Just one more ,-)
Stainless all day. Technology and steel has changed so much where Stainless are just flat-out better.
Can you do a video on " what brand of kitchen kitchen knife would you grab, or can do just about all the things a designated bushcraft type knife can do"? My wife needed me to bend an old butter knife that she need for a garden tool, and she only needed a 90 degree bend( she wanted an L shape) and I did so with a part of grips. I was surprised when I bent it, at first it was a bit tough to do, and most importantly, the knife didn't break at all. I will be honest, there are some strong butter knives, steak knives, and all the other kind of knives out there for meat cutting, and many inexpensive knives like a butter knife don't have a micarta or wood handle making them full tang knives. I remember as a kid I took an old butter knife, and threw at an old abandoned made of brick apartment building waiting demolition. To my surprise the knife didn't break, and all it had on it was a few scrape marks on it, and it must have traveled 100 ft in distance, and at a height of 50 ft, and it hit a brick wall too before landing on the concrete below it. I would never do that to my expensive hunting knives, bushcraft knives, or even any of my folders, because I got a hunch, they wouldn't fare well at all compared to that old butter knife I couldn't destroy.
Great video. I own a Garberg and I was curious about the new version.
Thanks
Would love to see you do a head to head with the Jakaripuuko vs the Garberg........please!!!!!!!!
We'll see
Your pronunciation on Morakniv is almost perfect...the "k" is not cilent though so you say it like you pronounce the "c" in cutting or California...thank`s for a very nice rewiew...and i am getting the Garberg carbonblack with moly-sheath!
Sheers from Sweden
Stainless steel, mostly because of where I live, the humidity is high
Thanks for the video another knife to my collection.
This one is made to use
Survival On Purpose I agree just stating that I add it to my collections of knives I use. My dad always said if your collect knives for show don’t buy it. If you are going to us it then buy it. Funny that has stuck with me all of these years. Thanks.
either on would be a good addition
I respect the quality of that knife but I can't do tacticool. I like the Kellam and Marttinni lumberjack. I have been pleased with the wood handles of those. Plus they are less expensive. I like the wood and leather over black plastics.
Very informative! Thank you! 👍
Can you recommend which knife is best for opening mails, yet gives me a false sense of rugged woodsman identity?
I want both of them. My $15 Mora in stainless and carbon steel are the sharpest knives you'll find.
They are good ones
Good knife overall for the price. Thanks for the review.
I agree
Great review, great knife skills too!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks!
I like it.carbon stays sharper longer.bother will get the job done.. Its a 🏆 for mora knives.i got the stainless one.
Yep
Actually stainless holds an edge longer.
Sorry didn't mean to make you doubt yourself, the videos are great, and after seeing it and reading Wally's comment I will buy the Mora Garberg Carbon from Amazon. I was just curious about the number of sparks from the stainless. I need a new field knife to replace my Les Stroud Camillus I damaged while batoning firewood. You both gave me all the answers I was looking for, Thanks.
I don't think the Garberg Carbon is available just yet. Soon, very soon ;-)
Could you also review William Collins Survival Knife (WCSK)
I got the stainless one .carbon steel will stay sharper longer they will say in test .both are very good knives will work well out there.
I agree
I know this video is old, but which of these knives can get sharper and will hold it's sharpness longer with the same amount of work being done?
thanks Brian..miss the knife reviews....
I have more coming
O YEA OL DAVE THE GOD OF BUSHCRAFT. YEA RIGHT.
GREAT REVIEW BROTHER.PEACE&SAFE AND JOURNEYS BROTHER
I've never heard Dave make that claim. In fact, I have heard him reference many others who he has studied. But he has taught a LOT of people some very useful skills, myself included.
Holy "molle" that's a cool knife😂
Yes it is.
Thanks for your good movie Both knives performed well and were similar So what is the difference between these two models of knives?
the steel
@@SurvivalOnPurpose
Dear friend Thanks for your answer, does the carbon blade not rust? And can it be easily sharpened again?
Cool
Batoning with a Mora is a good way to chip or roll the edge of the blade. If was going to baton anything I think I would get a knife that can handle the punishment a bit better.
I have never had that problem
It happens. It sucks when it happens. Happened to my Kansobl. Luckily I was able to fix it. Taught me a good lesson carry a tool specifically for that job like a small Estwing hatchet.
Thx for the vid! how its rust on carbon? in wet condition carbon lose direct, steel one is in my opinion better choice. friend have carbon i have steel. We camp 7-8 days a year and i see the huge dif of those 2 knifes. Greatings from Sweden btw.
Great review :)
Thanks for the support!
Great Video thanks 👍
Thanks. I appreciate it.
The stainless steel blade cuts through woods. The carbon black blade cuts through souls.
Is this a good knife for someone asking for wallet in dark alley?
It's a Mora. It is a given that they would perform . I still like you doing a test though. I have to get me one or three of them.
I like them a lot so far.
I like Moras.
mora garberg carbon vs 202 leuku cpm-3v wich wins and why?
I've had this knife for roughly 6 months now. A few weeks ago I nearly cut my own finger off because of the lack of either a solid guard or grippy handle. Maybe that's just me, but if anyone plans on buying this I'd consider putting some inner tube on the handle or simply re-handling it with wood overlays. Again this is just my opinion and I don't hate the Garberg, but safety to me is important. I've used knives for many years and never had any serious mishaps until the Garberg. I've returned to my much less expensive and safer Heavy Duty MG and have no issues.
Not to sound critical, because I have plenty of scars, but there are lots of very popular knives with no guards and smooth handles. Heck, most pocket knives are that way. Think about a Swiss Army Knife, it is smooth as butter. Every single time I have cut myself it was because I was doing something I knew better than to do ;-) But we guys have hard heads
I understand that. I also think fixed blades and folders are used in different ways. I never did anything with the Garberg that I wouldn't do with any knife. The issue came while in pouring rain when the handle failed to give traction and when I went to cut cord it slipped right out of my hand. By the grace of God I didn't slice my fingers off. You can blame the user, but tools aren't perfect either and justifying something because "it's been done before" is kinda risky business. No hard feelings though, I respect your opinion and enjoy your channel. Garbergs just not for me.
No hard feelings at all. There are plenty of popular knife designs I don't much like either.
Great video been a Mora fan since 1964
Where in Georgia?? Will be in Villa Rica next week
Douglasville- just down the road
Survival On Purpose
My son in law is the Proprietor of the OutBack Steakhouse in Douglasville
Ha ha ha . . . enjoyed your "balancing"!
So do I
Something I really don’t get and I am looking for an answer:
Realistically, if I like the outdoors and I am a preparedness and survival-aware and oriented person living in the USA or even in Canada, having access to knives such as the following:
- Ka-Bar Mark I Navy [Mk1 USN] Black Kraton [2221]
- Camillus/Ontario Jet Pilot Knife [499 AFPK aka AFSK]
- Ontario TAK-1 [OKC 8671]
- Cold Steel SRK SK-5 or O1
or, if I insisted in “made in Europe” or otherwise:
- Glock Feldmesser [Field Knife] 78/81
- Terävä Jääkäripuukko 140
or, if I preferred stainless:
- Gerber Strongarm [Coyote 30-001058, Black 30-001038, BDZ-1 Tactical Grey 30-001423]
- SOG SEAL Pup [either “plain” (the revised AUS-8 model) or Elite]
most of which knives have better features than the Garberg, at a similar or better price [surplus depots, yard sales…], give me more options in terms of availability [warranty, parts, accessories…] and have been tested and proven in field use by professionals and enthusiasts alike for decades, also considering that preparedness and survival imply a constant struggle for maintaining desired balance, so to speak, meaning not only having the best tools, but also supporting my own and at the same time domestic [and possibly local] economy, socializing with fellow citizens that might save me from trouble … as well as taking into account the simple rule that “two equal one, one equals none” [I can have a Ka-Bar Mk1 USN as my main knife and an OKC 499 AFSK as my backup or even alternative, for instance, at a by far better deal than in the case of having two Garbergs] …
Why, then, bother with the Garberg or the like, when I could rather better allocate my resources by - say - attempting [to convince enough people to] petitioning Ka-Bar to make a version of the Mk1 USN with a more substantial tang [like the Cold Steel Leatherneck SF], with a high scandi[vex] or saber grind, also perhaps a stainless version? [420HC Paul Bos-heat treated, 154CM, BDZ-1, Elmax, M390, N690, N680, S30V, S35VN, practically stainless CPM-3V with a bladesmithing-tweaked heat treatment - but, admittedly, b|**dy expensive! …]
I mean, if we’re talking about exploring options and having fun - but at a price, mind you and in terms of more than money! - I am with you; otherwise, why not just stick with tried and true, also save some bucks in the process?!
Nice video anyhow [always nice to get some good intel!] - and nice… balancing - as always!
whatever works for you
If you where going to buy , Mora or CDS?
can you tell Mr. Brian what is a blade width?
About 1"
Bonjour which one is the best ?
Merci
Whichever one you prefer. Both are good
Ok Merci
Bonjour so which one is the best ?
Whichever one you like.
Your having more trouble with those knives than any other on your reviews lol
Which one is best, the stainless steel or carbon steel?
It depends
@@SurvivalOnPurpose long term survival? Thanks in advance Sir!
Maybe mora should have a sheath option with a ferro rod am a sharpening rod
Good idea
they do for the bushcraft models
Carbon steel all day, take care of your equipment and it will take care of you As a Marine corps veteran, I put very little credence in anything from Dave Canterbury. Greetings from Valdosta
What kinda coating? On carbon one. Gotta get one.
Black? Seriously, I don't know
Simple ....is it epoxy..or gun blue?
Like I said, I don't know.
Survival On Purpose its ok bro..i like ur channel..i like dave....he knows his stuf.....so do u.
Probably titanium nitride , similar to SOG's black TiNi. Pretty tough and thin with no added friction , but will wear over use.
Great video, I would have liked to have seen you try the stainless with the flint just to see if you get any sparks. Also, I'd like to see someone compare a Mora with the cheep Mora knockoffs, walmart, Bud-k and several other places have Mora knockoffs for 3 to 5 dollars. I would bet they're nowhere as good or durable as a Mora but they have been around for years (the knockoffs) and if no one sees to doing a comparison test I guess I'll have to buy a few and a new Mora and beat and see how many pieces each break into after battoning, feather sticking, Ect.
Mike there are videos out there regarding mora knockoffs...search mora beater or something like that
thanks I'll check them out
Time is a precious commodity and I have to choose wisely. At least I try
Survival On Purpose sir...all the cheapos fail. Don't waste your time...mayne you can keep throwing the Garberg twins to really really check for balance!!! 😉
My favorite is the carbon. My most of mora knives is made from carbon. 🔪 I like it. No1 Mora HQ robust 😀 and the Garberg too. Very very sharp.
Indeed.
I will not cut my food with a knife I smear oil on. Take a KA bar for bear killing and a mura for cooking.
The stainless steel is more practical, hard to rust, so what if you have to stroke it a few more times on a stone,it will last longer
The stainless isn’t more practice. This whole rust thing is a non issue. The modern carbon steel is excellent and nobody ever complains about a mora carbon rusting to the point it’s unusable. A few strops and it’s razor sharp and if you loose your Rod, a flint will give you a spark so it’s hardly less practical.
Stainless can oxidise also so it’s not totally corrosion proof.
Buen video
Gracias
The k in Morakniv is actually not silent when pronounced. Basically it's pronounced "Moorakneeve".
Great video and review! I'm very happy with my Garberg.
Thanks
Did anybody else notice the skunk at 16:22
Skunk? What skunk?
which one gets rusty..?carbon steel..is'n it?...so I would rather stainless steel ones...more easy to take care ...✌️
Most Stainless is less prone to rust
my mora grrberg did not do well sheath did not last long blade chips very easy lile mora a lot
hmmm
mine is the stainless steel one
Carbon black
cool
👍👍👍
garberg carbon is better at edge holding
Niiice
Indeed.
They are the same in function. And the plastic handle sucks.
They are the same in function but one is much more rust resistant.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose I don't know why but I like the carbon steel better.
He pronounces Mora the same way I do?
how about talking speed a quiet slowlier?
You.....mean...like....this....? ;-)
I am a german citizen and there are a lot of english accents world wide (british, ireland, austrailian, us, etc.). And I was teached that slow speaking will reach the brains of listeners better than fast babbling. by the way: I am a owner of the Garberg Carbon.
@@sinusnovi3826 'teached' 'slowlier'. You obviously wasn't teached very well. And every english speaker isnt gonna speak slow just to suit non english speakers. He speaks fine. Not fast at all. I also dont see German youtubers speaking slow to suit non German natives.
I really wanted the carbon steel version. The reason I didn't buy it is because my bushcraft black can do what the garberg was designed to do and it was half the price. I will say though, WHEN my bushcraft black reaches it's retirement, I will get the Carbon steel version of the Mora Garberg. By that time it will be cheaper and people will have moved on to Mora's popular "survival" knife.
;-)
Knife (puukko) skills 1/5. First thing to learn is how to hold it properly. Then you need hours and hours of practice, also to make your hand and wrist stronger.
BTW that knife looks pretty clumsy, not a real puukko
If your hands are cold then your sol 😂 because there is just no hot spots
He would say he'd take that knife he works for them make your own minds up guys they're selling knives at the end of the day
Sigh....no I don't and I am not selling anything. Just trying to provide information to help people make up their own minds. But I do like these knives.
It must be hard to review guns and the paraphernalia in this RUclips climate.
It can be
8:22 Heavy duty carving? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.....
Just checking for hot spots.
I just bought the carbon steel!!
cool