what a bizzare anti-rail video - the same old 1970s-style arguments we have heard for the DART, LUAS and all the other sucessful rail projects in Ireland.
Im not anti rail but this current opening plan is being pushed by the green agenda . Im sure there are way smarter people than me , working in Irish rail who would have reopened these stations years ago , if viable , from a financial revenue making perspective rather than the whims of Eamonn Ryan and his cronies . I didn't see you writing any objections on any of my Youghal greenway videos . Now that's a true anti railway decision by our governing fathers
Tivoli- once the port moves out they are building 4000 homes there. Blackpool - highly populated gives people access to jobs in carrigtwohill business park etc. Blarney - again large population live there Big business park there and the tourist stuff. Dunkettle- Station where 1400 new homes are being built within a 1.5km radius and the station is a minute drive off the interchange. Kent Station is a 15 minute walk to patricks Street. A few minutes walk to mccurtain Street and in the middle of where loads of offices are being constructed. Also plans to link to the planned luas. Poor review of the planned reopening of stations.
@Leek Soup to rid the ordinary man of his car by punitive measures such as sky high petrol costs and to force everyone on to bycyles and public transport.
Blackpool is worth doing if it's through service , so midleton to mallow , able to get off in kilbarry/ Blackpool , Tivoli is likely as part of the north do ks redevelopment,
I remember back in 2000 , when the blackpool regeneration plan was in full swing. They built the shopping centre , retail park , office blocks and multi story Car park at the cost of hundreds of millions. There was a plan back then to reopen Blackpool Station as part of the regeneration and even link the station via a glass covered footbridge , from the top of the multi storey car park over to the station so prospective shoppers could disembark. Guess what happened ? Exactly , nothing .Didn't happen then , won't happen now .
The amount of people working in Blackpool would justify a station there, but only if it is linked with the Cork-Cobh/Midleton line as far as Mallow. The station in Tivoli is not for those commuting INTO the city, it is for those who will end up living there when the Port of cork completes the move downstream, and developers turn it into a high density residential area.. However it looks like that's about 20 years off.
Correct , the tivoli station will , if it ever goes ahead , be probably relocated further down the line opposite the container depot . The existing site is hemmed in by the n25 one side and the Millennium park on the other. The conditions that make Blackpool feasible have existed for the last 25 years so why hasnt it been built ? Same for Blarney , with the summer liners into Cobh , a new station there is a no brainer .
@DroneHawk I believe the last plan was shelved when a housing development planned for station road,Blarney was cancelled. In turn, that caused cancellation of the Blackpool station.
Dunkettle has 600 new homes just delivered with plans to add an additional +1700. The planned station would be less than 1km from these. Road network here cannot be adapted to have bus lanes. Blackpool again makes sense, plans for additional residential means easy commute to little island and city. Blarney Station will be too far from the town to make a big impact but may be useful If Monard is ever to be developed. Tivoli as other comments suggest will be essential if the plans to develop thousands of dwellings once port of cork lands are fully freed up. Love the videos but commentary is out of touch.
Not meant to be . Point was they've be promising these for last 25 years . Dunkettle will have to relocate to North esk . Tivoli is constricted in its current position. Would be be located back towards dual carriageway, Blackpool was viable for decades now and blarney station is now someone's home. It would be great if we all cycled , walked , and used public transport that was fit for purpose but that utopia is a long way off.
Rail stations aren't all about park and ride but serve more as a centre for compact growth and development. For Dunkettle I can see a park and ride there similar to the red cow but the other stations like Tivoli and Blackpool are denser or are planned to be with the development or higher density buildings served by frequent trains with 5 minute headways
The Dunkettel and other station going to Kent station could be exactly where you need to be, 1. Onward journeys to Dublin and all stops on route, Killarney or Tralee. 2. Cork City is growing down Kennedy Quay and Marina which will join with now Cork Luis to Mahon.
@@timothywatkins3011 There has been massive opposition to the BusConnects plan, much of it orchestrated by councillors belonging to parties in the national government who are supposedly in favour of sustainable transport options. If we can't even get a few bus lanes and bus gates built, there is no prospect whatsoever of getting an on-street light rail in this town. Sure, everyone will think it's a great idea until the draft plan shows the tracks coming down their street.
The commentary is ridiculous and totally out of touch, there are no plans for a station at dunkettle just look at the map for the Cork Metropolitan Area Transport. Blackpool has tons of apartments going up including plans for some going directly across from the proposed station(Kilbarry) There are plans for a whole new village at Tivoli as the docklands are moving to Ringaskiddy, this might take a few years but the Mallow to Cobh/Midelton line is already up and running the rest of the stations will come.
Sure they will , along with the North ring road and the Cork limerick motorway . Been listening to this rhetoric for the last 25 years . Docklands will get re-developed when Gouldings move out to Marino Point. That wont happen anytime soon as Passage is already objecting to any redevelopment work there , plus the road to Marino point will have to be upgraded to allow for HGVs first. Never said Dunkettle would reopen in its current location , a new station is rumoured to go into north Esk as a park and ride instead. Tivoli being redeveloped is at least 10 years away . There has been enough population in Blarney and Blackpool to justify stations there for decades but they haven't happened . I could be wrong , I hope they all get built , but check back in 10 years time and see who was right .
what a bizzare anti-rail video - the same old 1970s-style arguments we have heard for the DART, LUAS and all the other sucessful rail projects in Ireland.
Im not anti rail but this current opening plan is being pushed by the green agenda . Im sure there are way smarter people than me , working in Irish rail who would have reopened these stations years ago , if viable , from a financial revenue making perspective rather than the whims of Eamonn Ryan and his cronies . I didn't see you writing any objections on any of my Youghal greenway videos . Now that's a true anti railway decision by our governing fathers
Tivoli- once the port moves out they are building 4000 homes there. Blackpool - highly populated gives people access to jobs in carrigtwohill business park etc. Blarney - again large population live there Big business park there and the tourist stuff.
Dunkettle- Station where 1400 new homes are being built within a 1.5km radius and the station is a minute drive off the interchange.
Kent Station is a 15 minute walk to patricks Street. A few minutes walk to mccurtain Street and in the middle of where loads of offices are being constructed. Also plans to link to the planned luas.
Poor review of the planned reopening of stations.
@@dronehawk what is the green agenda
@Leek Soup to rid the ordinary man of his car by punitive measures such as sky high petrol costs and to force everyone on to bycyles and public transport.
@@dronehawk ThEy’Re CoMiNnG fOr YoUr CaRs!!!!1!1!1!1!
Blackpool is worth doing if it's through service , so midleton to mallow , able to get off in kilbarry/ Blackpool ,
Tivoli is likely as part of the north do ks redevelopment,
Carrigtohil needs a station in the industrial estate as originally planned ..
I remember back in 2000 , when the blackpool regeneration plan was in full swing. They built the shopping centre , retail park , office blocks and multi story Car park at the cost of hundreds of millions. There was a plan back then to reopen Blackpool Station as part of the regeneration and even link the station via a glass covered footbridge , from the top of the multi storey car park over to the station so prospective shoppers could disembark. Guess what happened ? Exactly , nothing .Didn't happen then , won't happen now .
The amount of people working in Blackpool would justify a station there, but only if it is linked with the Cork-Cobh/Midleton line as far as Mallow.
The station in Tivoli is not for those commuting INTO the city, it is for those who will end up living there when the Port of cork completes the move downstream, and developers turn it into a high density residential area.. However it looks like that's about 20 years off.
Correct , the tivoli station will , if it ever goes ahead , be probably relocated further down the line opposite the container depot . The existing site is hemmed in by the n25 one side and the Millennium park on the other. The conditions that make Blackpool feasible have existed for the last 25 years so why hasnt it been built ? Same for Blarney , with the summer liners into Cobh , a new station there is a no brainer .
@DroneHawk I believe the last plan was shelved when a housing development planned for station road,Blarney was cancelled. In turn, that caused cancellation of the Blackpool station.
Dunkettle has 600 new homes just delivered with plans to add an additional +1700. The planned station would be less than 1km from these. Road network here cannot be adapted to have bus lanes. Blackpool again makes sense, plans for additional residential means easy commute to little island and city. Blarney Station will be too far from the town to make a big impact but may be useful If Monard is ever to be developed. Tivoli as other comments suggest will be essential if the plans to develop thousands of dwellings once port of cork lands are fully freed up. Love the videos but commentary is out of touch.
Not meant to be . Point was they've be promising these for last 25 years . Dunkettle will have to relocate to North esk . Tivoli is constricted in its current position. Would be be located back towards dual carriageway, Blackpool was viable for decades now and blarney station is now someone's home. It would be great if we all cycled , walked , and used public transport that was fit for purpose but that utopia is a long way off.
Rail stations aren't all about park and ride but serve more as a centre for compact growth and development. For Dunkettle I can see a park and ride there similar to the red cow but the other stations like Tivoli and Blackpool are denser or are planned to be with the development or higher density buildings served by frequent trains with 5 minute headways
Good video but what are miles? This is Ireland, not the UK. Kilometres please.
Would you like me to narrate it as Gaeilge also 😄
@@dronehawk Nice! 😜
@@dronehawk Yes please!
The Dunkettel and other station going to Kent station could be exactly where you need to be,
1. Onward journeys to Dublin and all stops on route, Killarney or Tralee.
2. Cork City is growing down Kennedy Quay and Marina which will join with now Cork Luis to Mahon.
A Cork luas , your having a laugh
@@dronehawk No Joke, new bridge across river with Luis.
@@timothywatkins3011 There has been massive opposition to the BusConnects plan, much of it orchestrated by councillors belonging to parties in the national government who are supposedly in favour of sustainable transport options. If we can't even get a few bus lanes and bus gates built, there is no prospect whatsoever of getting an on-street light rail in this town. Sure, everyone will think it's a great idea until the draft plan shows the tracks coming down their street.
All closed railway lines in Co Cork should happen too cut down 1) Pollution, 2) Car Accidents & Road Deaths & 3) Traffic Jams.
The commentary is ridiculous and totally out of touch, there are no plans for a station at dunkettle just look at the map for the Cork Metropolitan Area Transport. Blackpool has tons of apartments going up including plans for some going directly across from the proposed station(Kilbarry) There are plans for a whole new village at Tivoli as the docklands are moving to Ringaskiddy, this might take a few years but the Mallow to Cobh/Midelton line is already up and running the rest of the stations will come.
Sure they will , along with the North ring road and the Cork limerick motorway . Been listening to this rhetoric for the last 25 years . Docklands will get re-developed when Gouldings move out to Marino Point. That wont happen anytime soon as Passage is already objecting to any redevelopment work there , plus the road to Marino point will have to be upgraded to allow for HGVs first. Never said Dunkettle would reopen in its current location , a new station is rumoured to go into north Esk as a park and ride instead. Tivoli being redeveloped is at least 10 years away . There has been enough population in Blarney and Blackpool to justify stations there for decades but they haven't happened . I could be wrong , I hope they all get built , but check back in 10 years time and see who was right .
There are buses to city from Kent station on old goods sites
Carrigtwohill/ Fota ,Midleton would be places I would be in favour of a rail service
They already have it....
😂 Hilarious
Maybe you meant Mogeely , Kileagh and Youghal