Ben Shapiro is Wrong About Hell
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Nobody can deny Ben Shapiro's skills as a public speaker and debater. But when he dabbles in theology from time to time, I'm always left less than impressed to say the least.
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I LIVE for the idea of "facts don't care about your feelings" being used against Ben Shapiro
That was the best mic drop I've ever seen.
Sebastian it's funny because a majority of his arguments are based on his feelings
+Aaron Rainbolt Uh... no they aren't.
sAy wHAAt? When it comes to his theological arguments they are.
Doesn't matter if you "believe something is false" if facts say its true, true
The thing that always frustrated me about Ben Shapiro is how he totes around the phrase "facts don't care about your feelings" and then decides its ok to abandon facts when he talks about religious matters.
Mister Conservative You know he’s a Jew, right?
bingo!
He openly says there's no secular argument to prove God exists...literally 2 podcasts ago...thats the point of religion...
Chad Hadley
The point of religion is "there's no secular argument to prove God exists"? X.x thats really odd.. why would God construct a universe where nothing could prove His existence? Does He not want rational people to believe in Him?
Curious Soul I was quoting shapiro...and honestly yes that is the point...im not religious at all but think about it...if u could prove God's existence what would the point of faith be? What would the point of religion be if you could prove God's existence?...there are some positions taken by past philosophers and thinkthers that prpve the existence of a greater being...the Thomas Aquinas book explains this a lot more...basocally the unmoved mover, how every object is either acting or being acted upon...
"It simply doesn't change the facts. Which, after all, don't care about your feelings."
That's what I call a burn, son.
You can say the same about Alex. He doesn't like the idea of Hell, maybe he doesn't believe because he doesn't like the way it sounds. It hurts his feelings.
*You can say the same about Alex. He doesn't like the idea of Hell, maybe he doesn't believe because he doesn't like the way it sounds. It hurts his feelings.*
He doesn't believe it because there is absolutely no evidence for such an absurd reality, no other reason.
Hands up anyone who likes hell. Anyone? And got any idea how it hurts someone's feelings, Android?
"No evidence". Whatever. Can't make you believe things through a RUclips comment section. Especially if your world view and sense of sanity depend on hell being completely made up.
Mark. No one wants hell to be real. Doesn't change reality.
The point of a punishment is to teach someone a lesson.
So what good is a punishment that doesn't end and holds a person prisoner so they don't even get the opportunity to change their behavior with the lesson.
'Eternal punishment' only exists to scare people into following the church, that's it. It's purely a scare tactic.
@@Zyberetro that's my point.
I'm not asking why a religion would have it. I'm asking why would a all loving god would do it.
@@hewhomustnotbenamed5912 There is no justifiable reason for an all loving God to punish people forever. People who believe in God only have bullshit excuses to justify Hell and eternal punishment, e.g 'They chose to go to Hell'. Like I've said before, 'eternal punishment' is a scare tactic.
@@Zyberetro I am agreeing with you.
When I said "that's my point" I meant that it is a scare tactic because if you think about it for 2 seconds you realize that the Christian god can't be all loving.
Hey Voldy
How’s life in limbo ?
Horcruxes ain’t so fun now are they
Pity, i was a big fan of your lordship
I've always found Shapiro to be a great example of someone who applies intelligence and logic to everything *but* religion... it's almost comical. He uses arguments and excuses that he'd *never* accept from someone else. Great vid, Alex!
Rationality Rules he is critical of everything but his own beliefs, religious or not.
Eli N.S That's how it appears to me as well.
_"someone who applies intelligence and logic to everything _*_but_*_ religion"_
Which would do nothing but make me question how logical and intelligent their arguments for whatever else they're talking about _actually_ are... But hey, as long as they're sticking it to them dirty SJWs, we can just ignore all that!
Except that people who are normally incredibly smart being blinded specifically when talking about religion is a well documented fact, and comes from basic human psychology. If you think Ben Shapiro is illogical or unintelligent on non-religious issues, that's fine, just show the illogic or unintelligence itself. No need to make illogical jumps yourself to get there.
David Higgs I would hardly call s bushido's line of reasoning an "illogical jump". If someone (like Shapiro) can commit blatant logical fallacies in one area, it's far from inconceivable that they could fall into similar logical pitfalls in other areas.
"Facts don't care about your feelings."
_Is religious_
Reminder: facts have a liberal bias. Coined by that ultra-conservative thinker, Stephen Colbert. So there!
the universe doesn't care about your feelings either.
No it’s truth
No faith has to built on history
Jesus was a historical person
And we all are held accountable to Him
@@raysalmon6566 well, if the character was real, maybe.
A video criticizing Shapiro not getting a ton of dislikes, nice.
Opus 0 Bruh you're wrong af, the alt-right hates him (he's a Jew)
Plus he hates Milo, someone the alt right loves.
Opus 0 Ben Shapiro isn't alt right and he's not a racist asshole so the alt right wouldn't like him.
BizarrePower Yes, because he’s typically considered wrong on this.
SozoFlow True
Ben Shapiro LOVES debating college kids. I wonder how smug he’d be debating Alex?
when he was a child he was debating adults. He has been on major news channels debating adults. You watch too much of the young turks is my guess.
@@joeswanson6966 what??
@@joeswanson6966 , yeah, he did phenomenal on the BBC a couple of years ago.
@@joeswanson6966 Seems like you've been grifted my friend. Wake up from the Shapiro reverie of DOOM before it's too late!
@@joeswanson6966 LMAO i hope you’re trolling
The image of hell staying with you is so true. I remember being small anf overhearing my older cousin telling another person that he doesn't believe in God, and I cried for such a long time because I couldn't stop thinking about him burning and screaming a pleading for help. I told my parents about it, and oddly enough they just had an oh-well type attitude. Sometimes I don't even think they believe what they were teaching.
Natsuki Ah yes, my church instilled the fear of hell in me so bad I couldn’t even look at an everyday object for 3 months without envisioning the person who made it burning in hell. Later I found out it was severe anxiety, but at the time, it was the most horrifying experience of my life. I feel you.
lisa y that must be horrible. My old church was more constantly telling us how we are sinners, how we’re born sinners, and how we need to repent. For a long time I felt guilty for things I had never done. Catholicism man. Crazy shit
That was me growing up. I became atheist and still think out of fear that I will burn in hell knowing very well there is no hell. But it was told to me over and over that I still think about it sometimes. Regardless of that I start thinking rationally and all is well. The bible is a horrible book. Starting with all the atrocities and slavery to the simply slaughtering entire civilizations because they believed in something else. It's funny that what we believe is product of out environment and when it's told to us every day it gets in your head even when you know it's a lie. It scars you for life.
@@brenna5118 know that it's all the product of man. There is no divinity in the sky. You should look at it like this. Why would a God want to have a relationship with you but then hides his actions in mysterious ways? The reason a lot of today's religions are so big is because they killed anyone that didn't agree... that's not what a god would mandate.
@@savagegecko4575 Actually, religions growing big because of military conquests only partially explains their popularity. Regarding the juedochristian creeds, they benefited from another source of fresh targets for conversion: the Roman Empire they were integrated into, and its great navigation and road system.
So yeah, brutal conquest and repression plus huge empires and communication networks. Especially, going for the top: once the emperors became christians, the percentage of Roman christians went from 5% to 100% in a few decades of enforced state religion and brutal persecution and massacres.
If you debated Ben on this topic I would love it
Michael AK id much rather have Matt Dillahunty debate shipiro. Or at the very least for them to have a productive conversation.
Michael AK I would also. Not that he would be able to keep up with Ben mind you.
I could not only keep up with ben, but demolish him on the topic of religion.
Drumming411 Well given that even Harris couldn't demolish him (actually he was pretty lousy) I could only asume he would smash you like a bug.
Atheists are paradoxically the champions of wishful thinking. Your confidence is being inflated by that lousy video.
I would rather be a paradoxical champion of wishful thinking than a fear mongering nitwit
as a person who grew up lesbian and christian, i'm scarred by being told i'm going to hell. even in things that aren't 'sin'. i'm terrified of messing up, asking for anything, and, obviously, coming out to people that don't know. i completely believe that the concept of hell is abusive to impressionable children.
You do realise that according to the New Testament that you don't go to hell for being gay
It's so sad that evangelical bible based christianity gives gays only two choices/options in order to be considered as an obedient follower of God's word and those are .........1.)Remain celibate and never engage in physical intiment sexual relations with the same sex that you feel attracted to or...2.)Try to take a crack or shot with a heterosexual marriage/partnership of which more than likely one will never feel 100% emotionally or physically fulfilled.Either option one chooses will supposedly lead to the eternal reward of being with God in heaven for such a great,arduous sacrifice.....albeit ever so hard and cruel to bear!!!
@AA Productions The Bible condemns lust (which many Christians will tell you is what homosexuality is all about, and how 'lusting' after someone you're not supposed to is doubly wrong, unless you're a straight Christian, of course), and the Bible DOES say you are to be punished for another's actions, the biggest and most famous example being that every single person who has ever lived and ever will live on planet Earth is to be punished because someone ate some fruit one time. It's important to be accurate when criticizing the Bible, both so that you can educate others, and so that others cannot use our ignorance against us.
Hence why I left the Christian faith. And because I saw many flaws in it just like any religion.
I'm sorry that happened to you. Sin is anything that falls short of God's standard, and we all do. I have failed in this. Everyone has. God loves you. He wouldn't torture you because you are gay. Despite what you were taught.
I am still learning about a Biblical understanding of Hell, so I will not say what it is or isn't.
***But your salvation is FREE. If you want it - your salvation is free.
Fun fact: Ben Shapiro is actually wrong about a lot of things
Fun fact: You also will be wrong in a massive amount of things all through out your life. Grasping absolute knowledge is never going to be even a possibility so you will fail inevitably over and over again.
True. After his wap and rap isn't music I stopped taking him seriously. He has some good points but some incredibly stupid ones
@@bobbico03 someone else pointed out how his fan base holds him to a high standard but I wanted to expand on that. So many people think he's this untouchable God in debating when he has many fallacies and bad points. And when you disagree with him, his fan base will use ad hominems and something like "you're not successful like him and make minimum wage" or "you're just a raging liberal". Even you just did this by telling him he'll fail multiply times but using big words to make it seem like you actually made a decent point. Its outstanding to see someone who is wrong so often be held to this godly standard
I don't know if I can spot a single time he hasn't been wrong
@@wachyfanning
What? Bencil Sharperino is always right. Dont you remember when he explained to us that people will just sell their houses and move once their homes get flooded because of global warming. The mermaid housing market will solve the problem. He is a true Titan of the intellectual right.
Ben Shapiro: “Facts don’t care about your feelings”
Also Ben Shapiro: “The universe was created by a mystical higher power and religion is the basis of morality”
he is not wrong nor right :p
@@alexmartinez3683 no he's wrong. You don't need religion for morality.
@@nootdreamnoot1684 i was just trying to be dumb. You are right but I havent heard a really good case that explains how you can get to objective morality without God.
@Philo of Eruditia we ware alll dooomeeeddd
@Philo of Eruditia To claim that you cannot reach objective morality without god is a claim that would need to be demonstrated, not simply asserted. Not believing in a god, for example, does not mean that an individual does not believe in anything supernatural, and there are philosophical arguments that people use to try and reach objective morality from a secular viewpoint. My perspective is more that whether or not actions are objectively moral is dependent on a subjective goal. When given a goal to base actions on, however, we can make cut and dry determinations on whether or not they are moral. What that goal is will vary, but most people I've met, at the very least, are able to agree on a basic goal of "Human Wellness", which we can judge things by. We can then objectively determine that theft, murder, and other crimes are morally abhorrent.
Before i came to terms with my sexuality and before i was an atheist i would actually cry myself to sleep every night terrified of going to hell for being gay. I would lay there terrified and panic would overcome me as i tried desperatly to "pray my gay away". The idea of hell is in no way child friendly and it took me years to get over something as terrible as that.
JoshuaPlays well you don’t go to hell for being gay. Sooo, come on back to Jesus. He likes gay people! Read the Bible and comment back the verse that says gays go to hell.
Jesse Collins The Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Which is completely false, but anyway. Jesus was not as much of a cunt as Yahweh, but he still agreed with what the asshole had done (I.E supposed genocide of all Earth except Moses' family). So yeah. This guy should remain an atheist. Religions are toxic as hell.
Constantine V You sound like a young kid with no proper points.
Jesse Collins Leviticus 20:13 New Living Translation (NLT)
13 “If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.
This is why religion is so fucked up to teach to children
Omg ben shapiro is soooo close to sounding like a chipmunk
the audio is slightly sped up or otherwise altered, probably to avoid youtubes copyright algorithms. Though I do agree that he has a nasally voice to a degree, it's not as extreme as this video seems to show. Or I could be wrong, who knows.
Even better if you slow him down to half speed, you get drunk, slobbering Ben
ok u just watched a video and part of it was about not persecuting people for things they can't control
so why do you do it
You need to look up the meaning of the word "persecuted"
He IS a Chipmunk !!
Its fun to imagine that the wood behind him is the floor and that those are gigantic books.
Nice
Lolll
BUILD THE WALL
between church and state
Fantastic points eloquently stated once again. I definitely relate to you in your desire to keep children from being taught about hell because of your own awful experience with that. It's abuse, and none of Shapiro's arguments undermine that assertion.
Well we could talk all day about the damage some parents do. We have parents rejecting science and telling their children they can change their gender and actively trying to with operations and/or hormones. Or parents telling their children they'll never be successful due to white privilege. Or liberal parents telling their children Conservatives are akin to Nazis or worse failing to teach their children of the guilt Democrats have for the kkk, slavery and segregation.
How far into peoples business should we go?
+wmpratt2010 two wrongs don't make a right. Still, teaching them they'll burn in hell is far worse than any of that.
Why do people invest time in commenting their opinions here, they do not know the other people and they are probably not a good source of information. I feel sorry for people who wastes their time having arguments in the comments of youtube videos, live life. (I know this may apply to myself, but nevertheless)
+Diego Linares The exchange of ideas is important. Despite what groups like antifa thinks.
Genetically Modified Skeptic There were zero fantastic points here. Alex is either too dumb to correctly identify opponents' positions, or he intentionally sets up a straw man.
Turning one of the most iconic Shapiro lines against him like that was amazing
"Ben Shapiro is wrong"
could have stopped right there
Searched for this very comment, since, you know, it's 100% accurate.
Do you seriously believe that you can just dismiss an argument based on who made it, instead of looking into wether there is truth to it?
Yes.
You know what I find ironic about Ben Shapiro’s thoughts on Hell, he’s Jewish, and Jews have a very different view of Hell. They call Hell Gehenoim, and that Gehenoim is a painless realm where unclean souls are cleansed and then sent to Heaven.
Yep, im a jew and thats right lol
@AA Productions
...are you, like, writing some advanced poetry?
Really, what's with the line breaks?
@AA Productions
Alright, I'm gonna assume it just showed up weird on my screen, because on your comment, it looks like you just wrote lines like,
"So anyways, I was
thinking
that you should vote
for my
dog, Patricia! She really
deserves it."
@AA Productions
Yeah, I got a small phone.
AA Productions
If you wouldn't hit enter mid-sentence RUclips would correct the lines for each device differently 😎
I always disliked Ben Shapiro because of his cult of personality. So many clips of him reuploaded to RUclips claiming he DESTROYS (thing conservatives dislike).
Tylerorsomething I hate that too, but it isn't his fault; fandoms/cults of personality usually go off the rails whether or not the person they worship agrees with their methods.
The only thing I hate about Ben(i try not to hate people but bad ideologies) is his ridiculous views on faith having sound epistemic value and his overly simplistic views on atheism.
Tylerorsomething I partially dislike Shapiro because of his hypocrisy.
Many clips show Shapiro accurately declaring that 'the facts don't care about your feelings' whereas, whenever discussing a topic he views through his religion, he immediately drops the facts for an appeal to emotion or his religion, neither of which are based in fact.
DeathsHood - true. I agree with Shapiro on everything but religion
I agree with Shapiro on mostly everything, not all of it. I do agree with Shapiro on religion though.
Half of all those videos usually go:
Transgender Person: "I was born born male, I'm now female."
Ben Shapiro: "No you aren't."
Shapiro Fans: "Oooooooh! Totally owned!"
4:53 "lesbian sex is the safest form of sex"
Not the way I do it, brother.
lmao well played
Mickey Rube Almost afraid to ask but how do you do it?
U wot M8
You don't use actual scissors do you
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As someone who has grown up in a Christian household, I can verify that the concept of hell plagues me to this day. My whole life I’ve had doubts about God and its philosophy seep in and out of my brain, but I brushed it all off. I remember being twelve/even younger and feeling sick and worried for my friends who I thought were going to hell just because they weren’t Christians. My parents told me that any child aborted got sent to heaven automatically, so I resorted to hoping that if a thirteen year old non Christian died, they’d still be young enough to be accepted into heaven. In grade 9 I denounced Christianity because I believed in God but I believed He was hateful. Then I was “born again” and in grade 10 I felt so connected to God and couldn’t believe I ever thought He wasn’t unconditionally loving. But then I started thinking through it more nearing the end of grade 11, and by that summer my brain was overflowing with questions. I pursued those questions and now I am agnostic, leaning toward atheism... but that doesn’t mean I’m still not scared out of my mind. Because I am. I am so afraid that hell might actually exist and I’m making the wrong choice and am going to be sent there eternally. Even though logically it makes no sense to me, that fear is still there. I’ve been surrounded by Christianity ever since I was little and “gave my life to the Lord” for the first time when I was four. How can you expect me to think for myself at that age, when my whole environment was faith-based? Anyways, I’m trying to believe what I really believe and I want so badly to think through my beliefs and believe in what I actually believe in, but I am so scared. I am still so, so petrified of hell.
I have never feared any hell of any description and never will because there is no hell and never will be. See, it can be done.
Though, a worthy mention in Norse mythology the Goddess Hel whom early christians were envious of! I don't do the jesus myth either, it has no substance. So much to learn..
Yes all that and to this day the Pope and pretty much all the top religious uppity ups ascribe to the veracity of the Hell myth. Of course I would imagine there are Christian sects that don’t believe that hell is an actual thing but rather some sort of metaphor or something.
@@peterf90 Yes, unfortunately! Tbh I don't think hell is anything more than an effective but damaging scare tactic. I do have some friends that believe in a Christian god and perceive hell in that way (and are much more progressive with their beliefs overall), but also they do kind of have to throw out most of the entire bible to be both a good person and a Christian, lmfao.
That comment is a while ago and I completely forgot I ever wrote it. So interesting to see where I was at with everything though.
I rarely if ever experience much fear of hell now as of present :) moreso frustrated with Christians in politics and family life nowadays, and also mindblown as to the things that I used to believe in so strongly and that used to rule and control my life. It really did alter the course of my actions and view of self and others, I would say in a very negative way.
Now it all seems sort of "cultish" to hear the way I used to talk and to see the things I used to believe and be afraid of. Life is strange
@@Nx2.1wow, what a shit thing to say. “I’ve never been subjected to indoctrination at a young age about Hell and don’t have to deal with deconstructing what the religion has done to me. So I can very easily not fear Hell and so can you even though you have it way worse then me.”
@@totallynotacultleadergood to hear that you were able to move past that! I’m not there yet but maybe after I’m done with college I won’t fear it anymore.
Ben Shapiro is wrong about quite a lot of things: religion, science, and haircuts.
Fear, the thing that kept christianity going since 2000 years ago.
Zvonimir Tomac longest gangsterism ever!
Are you thinking of stupidity?
All religions reallyz
beliefless dogmasless Are you serious? There are at least two dozen verses explicitly commanding fear of the LORD or claiming how blessed are those who FEAR the LORD (he's in all caps because he's super scary if you haven't caught that yet). The vast majority of people who "choose" to believe were told, as young children, about hell and what their naughty behavior might lead them to if they didn't straighten out and fear their god.
Aurora Borealis wtf is wrong with you.
8:01 Knocking your children's' teeth out also makes them listen to you, but that doesn't mean it isn't child abuse.
*cynism on* No but but it's not abuse as it had a purpose. Abuse is only abuse when it has no other purpose but pain. *cynism off*
This is honestly something I heard my mother utter when I confronted her about hitting me as a child. And that is where the problem lies - People who view hitting children children as a valid way of teaching them view children as either property or mindless animals which cannot be talked to.
Same with hell - the fear of hell is often used when no reason can be found to argue against an action. Hell is the ultimate "Because I said so" of religious parents.
Parents who teach of hell and abuse it should be murdered
Very well put
I love how since your channel started, your background collection of books grows each time
*resist resist resist no I can't*
Y'ALL LIKE JAZZ?
shouldn't it be Barry "bee" Benson?
Barry Benson Well spent Patreon money.
Barry Benson lol, I didn't really pay much attention to that XD
I want him to do a vid on his book collection. Just to see what he's got
CosmicSkeptic is God's gift to atheists.
OryGold I like that
OryGold Wouldn't that imply that Alex's videos are somehow meant as an opposition to atheism? If god gifts atheists something it must be bad, because God does not like atheists, right? I mean I get your idea, but it makes very little sense, sorry :D
the flat earth society has members all around the globe
You should go see godless cranium as well
OryGold,
More like atheisms gift to the devil.
Ben Shapiro is the literal perfect definition of textbook "cognitive dissonance".
is that the noun for speech impediment that can make you sound like a gay Martian with dumpling stuck on your esophagus?
@@eduardochavacano Did you genuinely think that was funny while typing it?
"Ben is exceptionally well articulated." Not sure that's how I'd describe his gish galloping incoherent rambling, but alright.
LMAOOO fr
Did you know his wife is a doctor?
@@Awakeningspirit20 I hear she has a dry... sense of humor.
FINALLY somebody called this guy out!
JumpinJimmie "this guy" has sound and logical political views, his only illogical position is his religious belief. He has evidence for anything he talks about, except religion.
Diomil Montes de Oca yeah except he doesn’t
as many of his standpoints are religiously founded no not all of his talkings are logical to the end, im not a fan of him because he often "shotgunning logical explanations" u cant dissecct fast enough before he shotguns u again
Diomil Montes de Oca I couldn’t disagree more about his political views. There is only evidence against his stances on healthcare and environmental policy, for example. Shapiro is pushing an agenda very similarly to the people on the far left whom he bashes, so he is no better.
You decided to upload a video right after I finish my chips -___-
I'm lucky, I just got mine.
I feel for you though
DG I just ran out of sody pop huuuuuu I'll get off my bed eventually
Secret Red Papa bless
Just had chips for my tea, with a pie.
Yummy.
***instantly clicks***
Did...did he just nuke ma boi Shapiro at the end with his own catchphrase? Damn Alex
Ben is too geeky and speaks like a Martian.
I remember being not much more than a toddler and having my mother tell me that I would go to hell if I was a lesbian. It was repeated over and over when I was a small child. So when I was 11 and kissing girls I mentally tortured myself over it. I can't even count the number of nights I cried and couldn't sleep because of the fear of going to hell. Even though I was scared to death, it still didn't change the fact that I liked girls. It just made me hate myself. That's no way for a child to live.
I‘m incredibly sorry to hear this. (Sorry for chiming in so late btw.) May I ask if you still feel this way today?
@@littlekishmish I hope they don't feel this way today
That, and the fact that gawd, in all his/her/it wisdom, gave you such a fukked up parent.
@Jacob Barid what do you mean by extremism? i havent offended anybody, in fact i love everybody, but i hate sin. I hate the sin but love the sinner. and i hope many people come to unit with the truth that what we see here now is just a passing show, the real life (eternal) happens after death. People dont face the truth in the name of insane human rights and dumb higher learning..Every single thing is spiritual in this world, even before manifesting to physical. May God guide the mind and thought of yall to understand because the bible saids for the luck of knowledge my people perish.
@@komfoanokye8160 You certainly have offended people. You've offended me and I'm not even gay. Your very beliefs and your book offend me. The immorality of it is astounding.
Ben Shapiro: Facts don’t care about your feelings but I am 100% sure that a magical sky daddy created the universe and any other thought is completely ridiculous
The title should be: Ben Shapiro gets DEMOLISHED by Cosmic Skeptic!
Seth Atkinson no that's gay
Aaron Rainbolt That's how Shapiro does his titles though
Aaron Rainbolt it's because that's how Ben Shapiro titles most of his videos, for example the suggested video I got after this 'Ben Shapiro DESTROYS transgenderism and abortion'
AlphaOmega115 He probably has the worst possible arguments against those things.
Unique Username I agree with this comment
I remember my dad telling me that going to heaven is pretty much impossible because most people don't even know half the rules. Not sure what his intention was by saying that but the idea of hell was so distant and obscure to me, that it never scared me at all, and since that day i just stopped trying.
Nice work Cosmic Skeptic, you are a wise young man who articulates himself brilliantly. Cheers.
Mark Reeder Giving someone the thumb is easy, providing a supporting argument is very rare. As Pascal said, *some people believe whatever they want not on the basis of evidence but what they find attractive.* As the song goes, "everyone wants to rule the world", to be their own god, be it power, ego, career, self image, sport, gambling, sex, violence, porn. If u don't worship your Creator U have to worship at the altar of something, such is the abject poverty and *unyielding dispair* of a materialistic worldview as conceded by philosopher, Bertrand Russell.
Gerry De naro Source, please. Where did Russell say anything that even implies that? And why should I believe it? I have not worshipped anything for the last 5 years; since I lost faith in God. I don't need to worship anything like you think you do. If I did, realizing that God is not real would have led me to suicide. I never even thought of it as an option. The problem with absolute assertions is that it only takes one counter-example to refute it.
zemorph42 Source!? Ur kidding right. Go read the great minds of atheism like Sartre, Neitzsche, Tolstoy Camus and Flew if ur going to pretend to be an ex believer. How does it feel to be a mere *collocation of atom*, Russell), a bunch of selfish genes (Dawkins) with no meaning, no hope and no destiny. Nobody can live like that, so you ALL gravitate to religious videos desperately trying to deny the God who haunts Ur every waking moment, the one we all desperately seek that hides in plain view
Pax vobiscum
Gerry De naro I'm not pretending. For 27 years I was absolutely certain that God exists, and for 10 of those years(1990-2000) I was devoted to him and his will. I also had vivid experiences that convinced me that I was on the right track and on my way to heaven, until I learned that those "experiences" were nothing more than brain chemistry and not evidence of anything else. You have no idea what it's like to have the foundation of your entire conception of everything ripped out from under you in an instant! How dare you assume that I am pretending! You know nothing about me. The rest of your comment confirms that.
Meaning and hope are not dependent on the existence of God or of any kind of "ultimate" meaning or purpose of the universe. Why do you think you need that, anyway? Just because there's no ultimate meaning or purpose for the universe, doesn't mean that I can't find my own purpose in life.
Is your merch selling like a God church?
Nico's Rap fuck you... just fuck you...
Eli N.S I'm sorry but I just had to 😂
Nico's Rap I approve.
Dead meme =/
I died laughing
Ben Shapiro is wrong on many things. He uses big words and talks fast to sound smart, and although there exist certain issues which I agree with him on, the majority of his show and presentations and debates is just word vomit.
gioachino rossini he simply has so many facts that he can talk that fast and still have content throughout the whole debate, everyone in these comments is just using that as an excuse but none of you can actually disprove what he says on things other than religion
gioachino rossini Shapiro graduated Harvard law with honors at the age of 23. He's not trying to sound smart. He is smart
Mister Conservative i fail to see the relevance. PO is neither a comedian nor an intellectual and spitting on a man's grave makes him look like trash.
gioachino rossini . Wow!! chino ur ipse dixit assertions and insults are the typical responses from self confessed, semi-evolved apes who think that such common strategies substitute for a rebuttal. Would u or Ur cronies dare attempt a point by point counter argument? I won't hold my breath.
The SJW and feminazi shit I definitely agree with. Others, not so much
"Ben Shapiro Is Wrong"
I fixed the title for you :)
How did he 'perceive' that heaven and hell are real, but that the Easter bunny and Santa Claus aren't? I'd really like to know what method he uses.
special pleading, that's how
Thought
uncleanunicorn imo, his method is "faith = sound epistemology". So he has faith in heaven and hell, so he percieves them no problem. He lacks faith in the Easter Bunny and Santa, so perception of them us hazy ;)
munstrumridcully how convenient
James Dagnan isn't it though? I often ask that if faith is sound epistemology, why is it that even ardent theists only use it in very few matters and use evidence and reason based epistemology for..."practical" matters? For instance, no theist I've asked will wire me all their money on faith that God told me they wanted them to...odd, that, isn't it? It's almost as if they are skeptical of my claim and would only believe me with good reason, like me proving it. Lol.
By the way, if you want to get the t shirt for yourself, it's one of my own, available here: teespring.com/stores/cosmicskeptic
where are the links you said youd provide in the description. Im an atheist libertarian so im curious to see your thoughts about free will as a philisophical concept
daddy
Ummm the videos you said you'd leave a link to in the description below aren't there yet. Just to let you know.
Great stuff, regardless.
RIP AZ-LAAR! You Were A Friend and A Hero!
CosmicSkeptic There is no link in the description to a video explaining why you don't believe in free will.
I do believe that scaring kids of hell is incredibly bad, teaching them about different religions AND science is okey but not brainwashing and intimidation them, and I do believe that sadly brainwashing and intimidation is much more common in religion. Speaking from experience.
Rolands It can never be brainwashing if it's the truth. Evolution is a fact, teaching that to kids is NOT brainwashing no matter how much religious people want to claim it is. Science doesnt need to brainwash people to make them accept it, all it needs is people not being brainwashed by religion. Without religious brainwashing science will never be seen as an enemy. There are literally Christian lunatics that think science and reason are the work of the devil.
Sorry I guess I didnt write it that well :D only had 3 hours of sleep i was trying to say that teaching kids religion as truth and scaring them is horrible and I am an atheist and wanted to just say that religion can really leave a bad mark on a persons life. but now that im an atheist after many hours of atheist and science videos I am finally fully healed :)
The way knowledge is taught is just as important as the content itself.
So true... part of the reason I'm an atheist is because of my parents approach to teaching me religion. I was never afraid of the monster under my bed, because the real one existed in my mind. Every time I did something bad (I couldn't help myself,it was my nature as a child) I would crawl under this table in the corner of my living room that was closed off on 3 sides by 2 walls and the side of the couch. I would start sobbing and rocking back and forth, crying and repeating things like "I accept Jesus into my heart", "I want to follow Jesus", "I don't want to go to hell", and "please don't send me to hell please don't .. I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry" over and over again. Why? I was told I was inherently a sinner, a bad child,( because I was human)and I would burn for all eternity if I wasn't a Christian. It terrified me, the I death of eternal torture. I wasn't more than 6 or 7 at the time, and I think it's left some emotional issues that I'm not completely over. If my parents had been more cautious, maybe this wouldn't have happened. Religion is not a bad thing, unless it's turned into a scare tactic, then we need to talk.
*idea of eternal torture
Even if I agreed with everything Shapiro said (mostly don't), I'd still want to smack him. Listening to him talk is unbearable.
I feel the same way about Cosmic Skeptic. I agree with pretty much everything he says yet he has the most punchable face and annoying voice in the world.
@@Greggorious123 how does cosmic skeptic have an annoying voice? Maybe because your not used to British accents idk.
@@te1327 I am British
@@Greggorious123 lmao
I really wish Christopher Hitchens lived long enough to debate Ben Shapiro.
It would have been the best debate ever.
Typical Dru didn't Craig destroy Hitchens?
Thomas certainly not in the one I saw...
Typical Dru you should watch him debate prager. He doesn’t even understand prayers point, gets mad then finally says oh yea your right about the Bible and slavery.
Lol what? Ben Shapiro takes 4th grade ideas and presents them at a 10th grade level. That's his appeal. Christopher Hitchens was a brilliant and educated author and orator. It would be a smackdown in hitchens favor as it usually is.
And Thomas, no. Hitchens didn't "lose" to Craig by any logical sense. He debated WLC on his own turf. In a church. Where the voting audience was mostly made up of churchgoers. Hitchens butchered him on substance the whole way through.
Wow. Your point about the codemning of homosexuality leading to less faith is spot on, at least for me. About three years ago, I started getting online and met some homosexuals. For no reason, I had this negative feeling for them because of my religon and I asked myself why. A lot of the time I became friends first and found out about their sexuality later, and they seemed like fine people. Why am I told to dislike these people? 2 years later, at 14 years old, I became an atheist. That one point got me thinking.
Xera 51 That is a pretty stupid view. "and they seemed like fine people". I think the hate towards any group is rarely founded on their social image or skills. There are plenty of terrible figures with whom you could have laughed about what their dog did in the garden last day, but it is not this that is at question. It's the specific point they are critisized on, ranging from nazi's, facists, homosexuality, et cetera. In this case where the boy puts his weiner in; not how much fun you have with him on the couch.
(took the homo example in boys form for simplicitly)
"There are plenty of terrible figures with whom you could have laughed about what their dog did in the garden last day, but it is not this that is at question" I don't know what that means to be honest.
My line of reasoning was:
>God is just.
>If God is just, and he sends homosexuals to hell, then homosexuality must be wrong.
>Why is homosexuality wrong?
I was then unable to find a valid reason, which then lead to further questioning.
Xera 51 It's about where they put their weiner. That is again the point that is criticized and you made the argument that you didn't understood why you should hate them because they were kind. It was because of the weiner thing obviously. That was the point.
My original comment was showing how I got to the question, not that it's good reasoning. Since I perceived homosexuality as a sin, I came to the conclusion that homosexuals would be bad people (Which is fallacious reasoning), but when I came to meet kind people who happened to be homosexuals, I questioned myself. Keep in mind this is when I was 12 and didn't understand that it's about criticizing ideas and not individuals.
Xera 51 Fair enough, that's very reasonable.
Ben uses all the science he can muster to argue against transsexuals but he still believes in the afterlife/God? How does one turn off their reasoning portions of their brain depending on the topic being discussed?
decepticonsforever
Because he actually doesn't use science at all in any case.
decepticonsforever Because God is exactly what science can't explain
Constantine V which version of God? There have been many myths that have been dropped or warped into what's in vogue right now. It would also need to exist for science to prove it
decepticonsforever The abrahamic God
Constantine V Why not Vishnu or Shiva? Odin? Anubis? No evidence for ANY god. Why would you believe in someone as cruel as the abrahamic god anyway???
"I think Ben is an exceptionally articulated and much needed voice..." Alex. Your show is good. But Ben Shapiro generally only offers straw man arguments, gish gallops and motivated reasoning (his worldview is built on the idea that 'God doesn't make stupid rules; therefore we have to justify those rules). Don't give credit where credit isn't due.
@@colterradke3988 God didn't make any rules, he doesn't exist.
@@alexr2172 You're goddam right stupid rules were made by stupid people. Hell, most stupid rules were made by a lot of stupid people, or at least a lot of smart people who together acted stupidly. Humans are stupid like that, ya know.
To say that he generally only offers straw man arguments without substantiating seems to be a very weak argument indeed.
@@ivanmurray8541 This is a fairly uncontroversial fact though, you can look at any number of Ben Shapiro videos by the Daily Wire and other sources and find a plethora of content in which his entire argument seems predicated on a strawman of the opposition. His John Lennon video shows this off clearly as Ben takes lyrics that very clearly advocate for peace amongst all people in the world and then he twists them into these terrible sounding moral arguments that John Lennon is allegedly making. He has video after video calling liberal and left-leaning politicians morons and liars without actually sustaining those claims. His rise to fame came off the back of going to college campuses, debating young and inexperienced college students (when he is a graduate of Harvard Law School), reducing their ideas and beliefs to strawman positions, and then acting as though the entire liberal/left are crazy and immoral bad people. He even has a video where he describes using strawmen arguments as a valid debate tactic when interacting with "The Left".
@@alexr2172 You're confusing antitheism with atheism. Atheism is not an assertion that a god doesn't exist- it's the assertion that there's not sufficient evidence to suggest one does.
Thank you SO much for speaking on this. Like thousands (probably millions!) of other children, the whole hell thing traumatized me as a kid. My parents had to take me to the doctor because of all the stomach aches I was having over it every night. It's all I could think about when I was trying to go to sleep. And what do you know? I have struggled with an anxiety disorder and insomnia most of my adulthood. Please, do not do that to your children, people!
I'd love Shapiro to have to balls to debate you in person on biblical issues. I'd love to see you wipe the floor with him.
Hell is a truly barbaric concept. I don't many Christians actually fully reckon up the reality of eternal punishment. I know I rarely did and when I did I could never truly reconcile it with my beliefs of god's benevolence. I actually feel embarrassed intellectually and morally when I consider that once embraced such a sadistic iron age mythological eternal torture chamber in a terrible alternative universe. Fortunately, there is not a shred of empirical nor logical evidence for such a god or universe.
wow you show your stupidity and non belief of biblical facts. Research the book of revelations of what happens to people who take the Mark of the Beast. It is the same hell that the bible teaches. If God says that this is the case it is so you unbeliever.
@davy boy Sounds like the making of a myth to me.
@davy boy I was agreeing with you a few comments back when you were saying how the people who wrote about Jesus never met him and the stories written about him were simply made up.....
@davy boy Absolutely! Glad to be free of all that crap.
Apparently Christians also dont understand that an eternal paradise isnt all that uh, paradise-y.
Too much of a good thing is a bad thing, we all know the saying, we all know it's true. Let's all hope when we die, it's just oblivion no hell or heaven just nothing.
mr facts before feelings except when it comes his own sky daddy...
Sky daddy 😂
But seriously, a church in my area in norway calls God "dad"
"sky daddy" haven't heard that one before🤣⚰️
I don’t think Jews conceive of Hashem as a sky daddy
Ben Shapiro DESTROYED by atheist CosmicSkeptic!
EDIT: Whoa 500+ likes? Nice!
DonutKop 😂😂
Well played 😂
Gud shit
In your dreams maybe
What a bunch of moronic comments, starting with this one: _"Ben Shapiro DESTROYED by atheist CosmicSkeptic!"_ That's like saying _"X destroyed that punching bag!"_ But someone fogot to mention the obvious - the punching bag doesn't hit back, *OR in this case:* ... _"BenShapiro was not there to defend himself when the atheist destroyed him!"_ What a difference a little common sense makes. eiii?
i used to panic so bad when i was little if i messed up even the slightest (tell a white lie, steal a pencil from a teacher, ect) id go to hell and id freak out and not be able to sleep that night lmaoooo now im an atheist oop
and my family wasnt even religious, it was just other christians that scared me into that mindset
Ben Shapiro needs to open his eyes to how ridiculous religion is. He's smart enough to see it
I think his intelligence probably helped him dig that hole so damn deep in the first place, he can conjure up better arguments for his fantasies than most. I think Peterson is the step above that, his fantasies are so far out that it's even hard to follow at times, but they all end in a pile of shit.
Haha no he isn't.
Shapiro is totally overrated
When your identity is attached to a belief, it's hard to let go of the belief no matter rediculous it is.
Ben Shapiro just needs to find a gym and fix his voice.
The first dream I remember having was when I was about 3 years old, and it was a horrific nightmare of me burning in hell running away from satan. Yes, teaching hell is child abuse.
Except for the fact that describing heaven and hell can be extremely useful to orient yourself and give a sense of purpose.
Davin Stevenscbc To me that makes about as much sense as saying that learning about reincarnation is useful for orienting yourself and finding purpose in life. The belief in heaven and hell never gave me those things, just an irrational terror of eternal torment and a contantly wavering hope that I was "actually saved" and would make it to paradise. I'm far happier and have oriented myself much better in this world after dropping those beliefs.
And teaching kids that they can decide their gender at a young age and giving them puberty blockers is also abuse Touche liberal.
@@trethespiritual4734 how do you know they're a liberal?
The idea of hell is exactly why I left religion. It caused me incredible depression and many nightmares from 10 to 12 years old. My parents had no intention of inflicting this on me but I was mentally tortured beyond anything I've ever experienced. I like Ben Shapiro but he is dead wrong on this issue.
You left religion because you wanted to do what ever you want to do with no concequence
Alexio Gomez That's not why people become atheists.
Alexio Gomez I left religion because god can’t be all loving and allow the pain in the world. He’s all powerful and he doesn’t care or he’s not all powerful but all loving. After further study I learned that there is no evidence for a god in any capacity. At the moment intelligent design is purely speculative.
SOCIETY gives punishment for wrong doing. Not any sky daddy.
just obey God and ask for forgiveness
it's that simple
if you mess up it's ok
he loves you
however his forgiveness isn't a free ticket to sin
otherwise your just condemned to hell
Envenomed God made a perfect world with no sin
mankind ruined it
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I love your name
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I remember when my dad turned on the stove and told me to put my hand on it because "This is what hell feels like."
Burning your hand? That's child abuse if nothing else.
Clearest example of how messed up religion is.
I would have called the police. Thankfully, TV raised me better than the cult.
To be honest, I think if God existed, he would be proud of athiests for being smart and very honest unlike religious people
A real religious person will definitely tell you "I don't know". They don't claim to have all the answers unless they are fundamentalist. I'm not smart I don't hold any PhDs or anything. All I will say is even if I was highly smart, I will still humble myself and say "I don't know", for that drives me to learn more and grow. Instead of dividing ourselves up based on those who believe and those who don't why don't we just humble ourselves and show love. Although we might arrogantly claim we know. We really don't KNOW.
Titanus_SebaRex “he would be proud of atheists for being smart”
Are you 12?
atheist big brain
There’s a quote from the Bible about how mankind should always ask questions and “leave no stone unturned”. It might not match up that well to the rest of the Bible’s “don’t question it” attitude, but it’s a cool quote nonetheless.
@@cholnhial7415 The person that knows it knows nothing knows more than people that think they know everything..... Something like that
That verse refers to things outside the Bible, which are okay to question, but not the Bible itself whicb puts itself beyond question by saying it is beyond questioning
Cosmic... if you see this I just want you to know that people like you restore my faith in humanity. Thank you.
Same. He understands.
Being delusional does not restore humanity. Knowing the truth no matter how you feel is important.God is alive and well, and loves you. All humans are born sinners, and condemned to he'll until we turn our hearts to Jesus.
@@agnesbukasa357 lol jesus is gay
@@agnesbukasa357 how do you know any of that is true?
if god really does love you then why exactly did he create sin and hell? would you torture someone forever if you loved them?
Trust... Not faith
He is a good debater, but he is still wrong all the time. So he knows how to debate, but he does not know how to question the knowledge that he has and then find the flaws in that knowledge. So while he knows how to argue the argument and be consistent, he will never understand why it is wrong, because he simply do not have the knowledge to do so. He is consistently wrong.
Pyladin who r we talking about here!? The young boy who is a self confessed, semi evolved ape, or the articulate, law graduate who maintains our lives have meaning hope and destiny? *Who do U think will be proven right sooner than later?*
> He is consistently wrong
> "Lets get this out there, it's obvious that rape is not good - right? Okay? Rape is not a good thing."
Pyladin If you were to listen to him for a long enough time, you’d uncover that you’re incorrect. I suspect you’ve only been around him for a short period of time, and haven’t listened to him consistently. He has- many times- claimed he’s questioned why, and then read. He reads, unlike most people.
Ben Shapiro is wrong about most of the things he argues about. But debating only with high school students makes him look intelligent
My gosh, I can't wait for Shapiro vs Harris on religion.
David Borge Olmedo "Ben Shapiro Schools Atheist"
The Real Bucky In your dreams
Smooth talker vs neuroscientist. Interesting
David Borge Olmedo the one time I’ve heard them speak, Ben sounds like an illiterate spoilt child, whereas Harris sounds like he’s an academic with real research.
"Ben Shapiro is Wrong About Hell"
What is Ben Shapiro right about?
Well, he knows his name, that's something
He doesn't even believe in hell, is is Jewish.
Probably alot more than you are
wing
*oof*
Nice to see someone who isn't blindly following Ben's ideology. Getting real sick of these video descriptions like "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Neil Degrasse Tyson". You're stating your views Ben, some have credible evidence and some don't, and sometimes the evidence is flawed. What I have a problem with is that you have the audacity to say "Facts don't care about your feelings" whilst at the same time delivering speeches about religion that are supported by nothing but subjectivity. Beliefs.
Seth N I hope you're talking about Shapiro's religious beliefs. In that case I agree. ALTHOUGH he is the most unbiased person ever, and he almost never mentions religion. Only if he is attacked or he feels it is being misrepresented. He even said for himself that he doesn't use religion or the Bible scripture to argue against anything when it corns to politics because people are free to have their own beliefs and he only argues for what works and not just mere beliefs and that in the end using the Bible for "an argument" is a logical fallacy, argument from authority. #SHAPIRO2024 lol
Ben Shapiro is just a Jewish William Lane Craig: He throws out too many pseudo-logical points in quick succession, and when no one has time to rebut them all, his fanboys say he won the debate...
Pikaia Gracilens that's all religious people when it comes to defending their religion
Jesus hes not the most unbiased person ever. He can be very hypocritical to the point where its comical.
He sides with the right almost every single time, no one can tell me that isn't bias.
I'd pay big money to watch Alex and Ben go at it on a debate stage regarding this topic
No lies detected, fellow Justin
I dont get why people believe people and the world need religion to be good. WE DONT NEED RELIGION AT ALLL
It's almost cruel to your audience Alex for us to hear your soothing voice and accent only to have it immediately juxtaposed with a voice coming from a man who sounds like if Mark Levin and Roseanne Barr had a love child.
Ryan Swanson , that is fucking funny. Bravo. :)
Agreed - oh! agreed!
@Ryan Swanson. See, dweeb would have been fine! Personally, I find nitwit and numbskull work well. Then I get accused of making ad hominem comments, where as actually I am just name calling.
Was helium involved in the making of this video?
If the video was made using nuclear power, then yes. Helium is a biproduct of natural sources of uranium.
I have not listened to this video, but the title caught my eye, and the first thing that came to mind is: there is a hell, and it is having to listen to Ben Shapiro's voice.
Damn, Alex you really brought it home with this one.
So eloquently written and articulated. 11:43 really capped it all off (burnt him so bad I called the fire dep.)
A superb video, well done. 👏
Left bible study to watch this
Lets GO Good!
Lets GO
Dude, great comment! Actually laughed!
watching this with my phone hidden in my bible during bible study. Beat that. lol
Lets GO
im watching this in the bathroom during bible study
I played this on a projector during bible study
Ben is full of himself and is part of the same identity politics he rallies against.
Hypocrisy at its finest!
Yep. As does another youtube personality who panders to his base while decrying "identity politics". Apparently the left are all "marxists".
Alternate title: Cosmic Skeptic ANNIHILATES Ben Shapiro with FACTS and LOGIC
hate those kind of topics. Childish titles to say the least
@@gerritkruger4014
FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS.
@@cydra-evolution5623 facts dont care about your religion
@@gerritkruger4014 facts came from religion
@@davinstevens3437 yeah evolution and quantum physics definitely came from religion
Really you could've left the last two words off the title and it would've been fine
Ben Shapiro is Hell works too
"jesus doesnt harm you, he lets the devil do that" hes still guilty because he uses satan as his hitman. If i send someone to kill my enemy, am i guilty or are they only gonna take the hitman to jail? God is not exempt from this guilt.
I think God is exempt from guilt, and people who try to put their guilt on god are still responsible. "God commanded" is no excuse for immoral actions. People shouldn't blame their morality on god or accept any morality from god.
MyOther Soul exempt ?
@@deflectyou4460 Yes, isn't whatever god whims moral? God never needs to feel guilty because whatever good does or requests is right. Psalm 137:8-9
Just obeying orders.
@VIII Maus God is a hissing sack of contradictions ... reminds me of Ben Shapiro.
In fact Jesus and the devil have nothing in common, they simply do not work together as the bad cop and the good cop, the devil harms people who don't believe in Jesus and who doesn't want to follow the God's orders. These people just want to live as they want and don't want Jesus to help them get in the right path. You can look Matthew 12: 24-29 for example
I have never understood why if we have "free will" - people assume that it had to be given to us by some god.
Dude, you are one of the wisest guys I know! You're proof of how powerful the internet has been for our generation in creating critical thinking skills and not taking things at face value. Keep it up with the great videos :)
I never understood why Shapiro would use that there is no free Will without God, therefore God must exist.
So God created every aspect of your body every atom of your brain and environment and somehow God still gave us freewill. God creates somebody in a certain way and then lets that person burn in because he or she isn't the way God wanted him or her to be. WoW so free, so moral.
michael torolo it fails to understand that everything we do is in response to something else. As fundamental as we get, physics equations are defined with other physics equations. What was gods inspiration?
And just think, Ben Shapiro is one of the smart ones...Let that sink in for a second
what the hell happened? William Buckley was at least intellectual and fun to disagree with. These people like Shapiro or Peterson seem inane at best.
Czeckie please elaborate on why you believe Jordan Peterson is insane. Ben Shapiro, sure ill give you that one, i enjoy his content sometimes but he's wrong about a few things. But again, why JBP?
inane
Czeckie i completely misread your comment, my apologies. (Yikes that correction hurt me on a spiritual level lol)
Jordy isn't inane at all, but he is totally insane.
"Desert dwelling peasants" lol killed me
Great video btw
Old Hitchens quote - and it still a home run....! 😉
Your right this idea of hell is damaging. People and doctrines are the problem. Not God.
As an agnostic I can agree
Ben Shapiro is wrong about ALMOST EVERY ISSUE HE'S SPOKEN OF.
LONNIE DOBBINS no not really
I wonder if he ever slips up and says something sensible by accident !!
My issue with Ben is when he’s arguing about anything that would go against his faith he clearly shows an emotional response. When it comes to straight politics he is a wonderful orator.
I find it hard to listen to Ben Shapiro because of his incessantly annoying voice.
I don't usually like to belittle people because of how their voice sounds...
But yeah, you're absolutely right!
I imagine him having a flip-top head like Terrance and Phillip from South Park.
James Lamb wow so do I now
He sounds like someone after inhaling helium. Perhaps in his case it would be an improvement.
@@dalekdx he sounds like putting a yt video on 2x the speed
The only skills Ben Shapiro has as a speaker, it is regurgitating whatever every right winger wants to hear.
Watch out you said something against daddy Shapiro
Hobgoblin Yeah it's completely projection. I've followed Ben Shapiro for about 2 years now. Though he makes valid points. Its normally a disingenuous and half truths.
Hobgoblin Yeah, I don't understand this projection of leftist snowflakes. If you are on the left and watch CosmicSkeptic, there's a good chance you are not there mainstream definition of "snowflake". I consider myself to be pretty far left, but I'm always open to criticism; I just have the expectation that it will be rational and logical criticism, not what I usually get, which is a bunch of ad hominem attacks about misandristic "feminists" and white guilting Islamic apologists.
Deepto Chatterjee U obviously haven't even seen mainstream leftists. If u think leftists can't take criticism u haven't read Noam Chomsky, Richard wolf, Richard Dawkins (who has made the claim that the right wing is more of the problem than the left wing.) if u think college students and Berkeley liberals = the left... what r u even doing here.
Notification chuuurch
no plz don't call us a church .... :)
Micheal Daniel - A like just for the name. 👌
Matthew The Boyo CAN I GET A AMEN? 🙌
Not only is teaching about Hell a form of child abuse, it can scar the life of an adult. When I first started questioning my religious beliefs, I was tormented by the idea that I was being mislead by Satan and would wind up in hell. Ghosts of this belief would continue to haunt my thoughts for decades, until I was finally able to free myself mentally from this abuse. As time went on, the idiocy of religion became so apparent I could finally be myself.
Thumbs up for Alex V Ben religion debate
Alex would be killed in it.
I like Alex but he’ll get destroyed. His logic has a lot of flaws and his arguments are mostly based on theory. Ben would destroy him.
Zub41r 21 no actually any atheist with half a brain can beat a religious person on debate. Alex is pretty smart and Ben is really flawed on the subject.
Alex Marenco So any Atheist with half a brain can beat any Christian in a debate? That is utterly foolish haha!
What do all of these people have in common?
Isaac Newton
Johannes Kepler
Francis Collins
James Watt
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
Blaise Pascal
Gregor Mendel
Sir William Ramsey
Bernard Riemann
Robert Boyle
Francis Bacon
James Joule
Max Planck
Arthur Eddington
John Napier
Answer: All of them knew that God created the world. Could you or any other Atheist outsmart and beat these people in debate?
Resources for the skeptic : docs.google.com/document/d/1ZdtCKC2mUaKxL0_1Zf5BMO-un5ccKnad_JeLxXE3mIw/edit
Mikey DiCiero umm yes they can actually. Most of the scientist you mentioned lived centuries ago, and eventhough they were smart, they lacked the knowledge that we now have. Newton didnt know crap about black holes, or quantum physics, or even evolution and I dont blame him. That information wasnt at his disposal at that time. So yeah anyone living today could easily hand his ass to him on debate.
You also didnt get what I was trying to say. I was referring to the fact that when debating theism, skeptics have an easier position to defend. Atheist have a more favorable position because their stance is supported by evidence, unlike theism that has to proof a mere, (and already debunked) belief.
Alex (CosmicSkeptic) can you react to Jesus Camp? That woman who says: "Warlocks are enemies of God" when referring to Harry Potter. She also says: If Harry Potter were in the old testament, he would have been put to death!!. Please rip that whole thing apart 😂😂
Why? it's been covered to death, no point in beating a dead horse
Braelon Oliver yeah ik but I would love to hear Alex's thoughts too.
Warlocks are enemies of God, and Harry Potter should be put to death.
endofscene Warlocks like witches are a figment of your imagination.
+Gerry De naro The Devil's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.
Hell: A purely theological place, that has no proof, no clear definition, and little to no basis in the Torah. It’s a place made infamous via christianity, but not unique to christianity, having it’s roots in prior religions. However, not Judaism, interestingly.
As a small girl, I remember crying at confession and asking the catholic priest if my mom was going to go to hell and if I could ask god to go instead of her. He just said that was kind of me but no- not possible. So I cried a lot cause I was so scared for my mom.
10:50 best response. I get the ' but if gewd isn't reel then y is 'merica so great?' great work Alex !! Been watching for feels like almost a year now!
YAY new video! ♥️
I want that half shark in the background
zomon 34 I am looking for the other half