MUST WATCH Cleaning 1800s Indians Copper Coins Brass Using Hydrochloric Acid Metal Detecting Relics

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  • @doseofreality420marianetti2
    @doseofreality420marianetti2 2 года назад +4

    I tried this method and let me tell you it works great, THANKS FOR THIS.

  • @victormarianetti2083
    @victormarianetti2083 2 года назад +2

    Yes, this works great and now can sell my coins for more, I knew there had to be a way to clean these with out damaging them. Thanks

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад

      Glad I can help, one day I'll be doing the same.

  • @whatsintheplugdetecting23
    @whatsintheplugdetecting23 2 года назад +5

    Cool video those Indians cleaned up nice and neatly

  • @thegoodearth7
    @thegoodearth7 2 года назад +4

    I cleaned a 1903 Indian head; it took on that golden hue you speak. I recently fund an 1889 and after I cleaned the decades of crud off it, it came out a beautiful green. I am torn as to whether to clean the green off it.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад +1

      I keep green to show people how they will look when coming out the ground after 100 years and clean the rest.

    • @vintageavenuerarecoins
      @vintageavenuerarecoins 8 месяцев назад +1

      That a great find, but yes please keep the green patina, if you remove it you will have a copper slug, all the details after all those years is in the green patina.

  • @goldseaoutdoors4708
    @goldseaoutdoors4708 2 года назад +5

    Very useful information thanks

  • @johnsonfamilyadventures692
    @johnsonfamilyadventures692 2 года назад +4

    Thx for the heads up 👍💯

  • @WattsElectronics
    @WattsElectronics 2 года назад +5

    Yes, very good and EZ.

  • @jaxsonmillz6474
    @jaxsonmillz6474 Год назад +1

    if you grade coins tho idk could kill the value

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  Год назад

      nope, you need to stop thinking you need to sell to coin dealers and waste money on grading coins, sell them on ebay and let them fight for it, youll make more money and wont get low balled selling them to a dealer.

    • @Tim99-lg7kn
      @Tim99-lg7kn 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@MetalDetectingNYah... between the fees make it so you don't make crap on eBay and also what year suggesting sounds like you're just hoping for some novice who doesn't know any better to purchase it and that seems kind of shady . Bottom line to any real collector you're killing the value of these coins clean them if you're just going to keep them for yourself and you like them that way. Don't clean them thinking you're going to fool anybody or somehow increase the prophet

  • @mandybrown7758
    @mandybrown7758 2 года назад +2

    I love the green on the Indians I just leave them but I had no idea they looked like that after cleaning

  • @WattsElectronics
    @WattsElectronics 2 года назад +2

    I've been selling my old coins from metal detecting for years, I never cleaned them and didn't get much for them. I did clean a few to see if it was true you make more with cleaned coins, and yes your right making double the money or more now, cool trick.

  • @LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC
    @LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC 2 года назад +5

    I was using vinegar and salt mixture when I was young kid around 12....as i got older never liked cleaned coins....I like the natural the best.
    Now-a-days when i absolutely have to clean coppers and dress them up for a little better value....i do clean them with straight olive oil and maybe baking soda (rub with my fingers) on the real bad ones to smooth them out....but i stop long before i'm down to the bare copper...I have to keep some of the natural patina and oils on them. Bare copper cleaned coins are unloved by numismatic people...but you can reverse things by adding oils to them...from your nose is best and leave them outside (in direct sun and rain) bake them on each side for 1 week...turning them....and adding your nose and finger oils to them. You actually can bring back the nice uniform patina on those cleaned coins in a about a year...well enough that you can fool even the most seasoned numismatic eye.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад +1

      I had people ask me how I cleaned a few of my coins, some like there coins dirty and some want to have them clean, I don't really care as I'm not a coin collector nor will I sell my finds, but I do like to see the find details on the coins so I rather have them clean and this method of cleaning I like the best.

  • @dfdigger3820
    @dfdigger3820 2 года назад +2

    Good video :)

  • @don951
    @don951 Год назад +2

    I guess if you've dug it up and it is not worth anything this would work to get the gunk off. But check the year first for rare dates. If you have a better date do not do this as it will lower value. Old circulated condition copper should not look clean. If you have a bright blonde copper look you've gone way too far.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  Год назад

      nope, will increase the vaule if you clean them, it does uch a good job know one can tell, try it yourself with a copper penny and you'll see.

    • @Raymond-vk6hp
      @Raymond-vk6hp 22 дня назад

      Funny that, didn't know that was the case in the states, cleaned coins here are relatively worthless compared to coins with patina. We can just dump our coins on the US markets in that case. A little bit of arbitrage.

    • @don951
      @don951 21 день назад

      @@Raymond-vk6hp That is not the case in the states. It is the same here in the states.

    • @Raymond-vk6hp
      @Raymond-vk6hp 21 день назад

      @@don951 Glad to hear my brothers in the states still have some common sense. Was expecting this lot to be peddling their own rebadged metal cleaner to the uninformed masses.

  • @lbindert
    @lbindert 2 года назад +2

    Why is he just letting the water dribble. To make everyone who watches have to pee?

    • @WattsElectronics
      @WattsElectronics 2 года назад +1

      lol, I understand why he did this, not to touch his handle with the acid.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад +1

      sorry I had to run so I didn't get acid all over the place.

  • @simmstac
    @simmstac Год назад

    Is your faucet leaking? Dude turn the freaking water off it’s making me crazy

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  Год назад

      have to have it run, working with Acid, if i got that in my eye I need to wash out fast.

  • @vincentconti-jb3hd
    @vincentconti-jb3hd Год назад

    Indian head pennies were in circulation in the fifties..along with steel pennies.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  Год назад

      there both still in circulation, not sure what you mean.

    • @vincentconti-jb3hd
      @vincentconti-jb3hd Год назад

      @@MetalDetectingNY I mean they were used to buy things...that's what In circulation means!!!

    • @vincentconti-jb3hd
      @vincentconti-jb3hd Год назад

      @@MetalDetectingNY that would be "they are" not there!!!!! Sorry if English is your second language...I suppose you could be using voice printing...I'm an English teacher....sorry!

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  Год назад

      @@vincentconti-jb3hd yes they are coins to buy things.

    • @vincentconti-jb3hd
      @vincentconti-jb3hd Год назад

      @@MetalDetectingNYwhat are you talking about!? Do you get them in change at a grocery store ??;; Don't you understand what I'm saying???! They were worth one cent! No premium!!;; In circulation!!!;
      like every other penny !;;;;; Get it;;!!!

  • @unlazyfree
    @unlazyfree Год назад +2

    As a numismatist, you ruined any value those coins had.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  Год назад

      You’re absolutely wrong, if you're selling to a middle man, yes, but if you're selling them on ebay you'll make wayyyy more money.

    • @Tim99-lg7kn
      @Tim99-lg7kn 8 месяцев назад

      ​😂😂😂

  • @dfdigger3820
    @dfdigger3820 2 года назад +1

    Wow, some trolls in the comments geesh. Its not even their coins lol. I look at it this way. Im not concerned if I devalue a 1 cent coin that is worth $1 now. I have cleaned a few of mine and probably will try this too. I found what I thought was a largie on time, Then I decided to clean it and found out it was a 1800s Russian 2 Kopek. They are your coins, Do as you wish with them :)

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад +3

      LOL, most of them are lowball coin dealers. I have a 1846 large cent that I dug up a couple years ago, worth about $15 to $20 as it sits, I'll clean it in a video the same way and I bet you it would sell for $50 to $60. Coin dealers don't want you to know this and the noobs are just repeating what they where taught from the coin dealers. just go on eBay and look at cleaned coins Vs dirty coins, clean coins sell for more. One guy got so mad I posted this video he call me a putz lol I love it. Hand me laughing all night. good stuff. glad you like.

    • @Tim99-lg7kn
      @Tim99-lg7kn 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@MetalDetectingNYbet you it won't to anyone that knows what their doing as far as coin collecting .

  • @ChrissyEis
    @ChrissyEis Год назад

    Yes I learned of this a long time ago but I must say be careful you can ruin your coins in seconds it works great on any eroded metal even iron I ruined a $10 thousand dollar token doing this I simply had to go pee so bad I couldn’t take it I thought what s a few minutes well let me tell you owe it cleaned very well so we’ll all the writing was completely gone I am still sick to this day it was so rare I only seen one other year s ago on heritage auction site and you know they don’t sell junk lol unfortunately I wasn’t a member to see what was the final bid but I am in the thousands I I remember it was 200 years old a celebration of Cleveland Ohio I guess to this day sometime in July they have a huge gathering

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  Год назад

      If you do it the way I have it in the video youll be fine, just use the bathroom before doing.

  • @jeeprod1
    @jeeprod1 2 года назад +4

    as long as you limit your cleaning to bent or damaged stuff you dig up. There are a number of scarcer dates in most coin series that are worth serious money, and any kind of cleaning will destroy the value. In the case of Indian cents, the 1877 is worth hundreds of dollars even in worn condition. The 1908 and 1909 are worth some good money too.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад +3

      From my experience, If you clean the coin without scratching or causing damage, the value of the coin goes up. forget coin dealers and them making money off the seller, Put a clean coin on eBay vs a dirty coin you make more money on the clean coin, especially if you clean it right. so if you pull up an 1877 that's black and you clean it up like in my video, you'll do very very good selling that. Many coin dealer hate this video as it will take money out there pockets because its real ez to clean these. I tell people to test with a copper penny from the 1960s 70s and see what happens, doesnt damage the penny at all, just takes years and years of tarnish off.

    • @Tim99-lg7kn
      @Tim99-lg7kn 8 месяцев назад +1

      Ya I bet you're making a killing...( sarcasm)
      Bro it's okay to admit you have no clue what you're talking about

  • @erikbrantner4295
    @erikbrantner4295 Год назад +1

    I wouldn't recommend cleaning any old coin that has a value to it!

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  Год назад

      Its up to you, If you dont trust yourself in cleaning them, send them to a pro, I clean mine and not even a pro can tell.

    • @Tim99-lg7kn
      @Tim99-lg7kn 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@MetalDetectingNYand how many professionals have you had look at them to make such a claim?

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  8 месяцев назад

      @@Tim99-lg7kn I don't think it matters, no complaints from Ebay buyers. He takes very sharp and close pictures and can see every scratch and imperfections in the coins he sells. Look at it this way, if you saw 2 Indians dated 1899 both found by of metal detecting but you didn’t know about that, you just see 2 Indians 1 is black and dirty for $1 and the other Indian was clean, like wow clean and was selling for $2. Most will spend the extra and get the clean coin. Just look on ebay, see what a dirty coin sells for and a clean coin, clean sells for more. Another thing to think about is who cares who you sell them to as long as the buyer is happy and you make money point blank.

  • @ChrissyEis
    @ChrissyEis Год назад

    It does work great but you better not let it soak for to long lol I am to scared now I do it the hard way with a hundred tooth pick s lol

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  Год назад

      It works great, just need to have the right mixture like I have in the video and you clean the worst looking coins like mine to new again.

  • @tallyhorizzla3330
    @tallyhorizzla3330 2 года назад

    Lemon juice,from an actual lemon.

  • @user-gh9zl6yg6h
    @user-gh9zl6yg6h 2 года назад

    no water shortage in your world.fix your sink

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад +2

      I have a well that is 4 foot round 60 feet deep filled 3/4 way on a spring. I needed to run the water to swash my hands friend.

    • @user-gh9zl6yg6h
      @user-gh9zl6yg6h 2 года назад

      @@MetalDetectingNY dose not make for good video that's all

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад +1

      @@user-gh9zl6yg6h well explain how you would clean your hands with acid without running water, let me hear your way of doing it? I don't use public water and have a well with endless water.

  • @merrelphillips144
    @merrelphillips144 2 года назад +2

    If you never want to sell them I guess have at it but you are destroying there value.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад +1

      Your absolute wrong; look on eBay, dirty coins vs clean coins, clean coins sell for more. Most coin dealers want dirty coins so they can low ball a seller then clean and sell the coin/s for more. That old saying never clean your coins is wrong, just make sure you know what your doing before you clean them.

    • @ChrissyEis
      @ChrissyEis Год назад +1

      It does work great but you better only let it soy for only a few seconds I won’t do it again I will take the long way a tooth pick and a very light Dremel to it I mean light and very slow but only if the coin is really really black I also ruined a few rare Indian head penny s not this method but with peroxide live and learn lol

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  4 месяца назад +2

      your not to smart, they sell for more ob ebay when you clean them. you learned nothing from the video. coin dealers wont pay for the coins as thats how they make their money, if you clean them ou make what they make. dont be dumb and lean what you watch.

  • @Tim99-lg7kn
    @Tim99-lg7kn 8 месяцев назад

    Wow you're all a bunch of novices and rather ill informed for the record most of the time if you try to sell coins to someone that is an avid collector they'll know you clean them and it actually loses value. And you never ever ever ever scrub a coin with anything.... And yes you can clean Old copper Indian Head pennies but like I said it loses value because it's been cleaned Unless it's done by an actual professional grading service

    • @Tim99-lg7kn
      @Tim99-lg7kn 8 месяцев назад

      PS all the micro scratching you're putting on those when an actual have it collector looks at them you will lose money because you have clean them not only clean them but you have violated them😂😂😂

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  8 месяцев назад

      Sounds good but one of the guys in my group sells every coin he gets and has me clean them after our hunts. He gets top $$$ on everything he sells, the secret is to hand polish after you are done, not too much as you don't want it to look like a mirror but just a little and will look great you'll would never know it was in the ground for 100 to 200 plus years. lucky copper, brass, silver and gold is soft and polishes up real nice, let me drop this mic now. So stop being a sucker and learn to clean up them old coins like the people you buy from and save some money, have a great day, lol.

    • @vintageavenuerarecoins
      @vintageavenuerarecoins 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@MetalDetectingNY Sorry but your wrong, any coin collector from beginner to advance will never buy your coins, your buddy must be lying through his teeth to sell any of those harshly cleaned coins, im sure to non collectors, the key to really getting top dollar is to keep the patina on, but remove all the dirt. This isnt my first rodeo in coin conservation, ive cleaned, sold, and graded a few in my time, and a polished coin will always look polished even if its not a mirror shine, every coin collector will know, and yes Ive had to harshly clean a couple, in order to save them from degradation AKA bronze disease, but I tell all my buyers that it has been conserved "cleaned" and they dont mind paying a couple dollars less, because they were told the truth and it fits for their needs.

  • @brennanduquette2877
    @brennanduquette2877 10 дней назад

    You’ve ruined them 😢 also vinegar and salt does not make hydrochloric acid, it makes sodium acetate. There are much better ways to restore copper without stripping the patina. Soak in olive or mineral oil for a week, up to 6 months. Or heat some hydrogen peroxide and soak for just a few minutes. Making a bright coin does not make it valuable

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  9 дней назад +4

      You're not only stupid but very ignorant. Everything you stated was wrong, google search “what does salt and vinegar make” it will say “Salt and vinegar can make: Hydrochloric acid
      When salt reacts with vinegar, hydrochloric acid is produced. Also you can soak a coin in oil till you turn gray and wont do anything. If you clean the coins they sell wayyyyyy more money on ebay. Next time you may want to do some research before making yourself look real dumb. I hope you have a better day, lol.

    • @brennanduquette2877
      @brennanduquette2877 9 дней назад

      @ the true value of the coins is ruined, sorry to anyone who gets scammed by you. You’re wrong across the board but with that last response I see there’s no point arguing.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  9 дней назад +4

      @@brennanduquette2877 The true value is what someone is willing to pay for the coin. You're just to stupid to understand this, if the coin is clean and looks new it will sell for more point blanks. You have been proven wrong across the board, and you can’t argue as nothing your saying makes sense, the crazy thing about this is you're using your name on youtube and making a fool of yourself. I will leave your comment on youtube to show people how stupid you are, lol.

    • @brennanduquette2877
      @brennanduquette2877 9 дней назад

      @ go bring your “restored” coins to Ridgecoin in Rochester and watch the boys cringe at your trash. No real coin collectors want anything you’ve touched.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  9 дней назад +2

      @@brennanduquette2877 It’s very funny you bring up Ridge Coin, I know the owner very well. His son goes to school with my daughter. Before Tasos got a divorce with his wife he used to come to our metal detecting parties on the 4th of july. He was always interested in the coins I have found and wondered how I got them so clean. I showed him how easy it was to clean silver and now he does the same thing. When selling coins and not to defame Tasos but going to a coin dealer to sell your coins is very stupid. Why would you sell your coins to a middle man and make less? You can skip the middleman and put up for auction or straight out ask what you want for the coin/s. Coin dealers make money off stupid people like you that can’t think for themselves and are willing to take less for them dirty coins. The coin shops will clean up and resell for more money. You keep making Mike more money, his ex really took him to the cleaners and they had to sell that big house in Avon, so he could use the extra money, lol. This world is small, thanks for the laughs.

  • @davemiller8215
    @davemiller8215 2 года назад +1

    any cleaning of this nature will really deter any coin collectors or coin store owners from buying those indians......

    • @LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC
      @LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC 2 года назад +1

      Yes understand that on cleaning...but in this case e-bay people will gobble them up at a few dollars each....they love the cleaned copper Indians and Lincolns. Also, you can reverse the process and add oils and bake them in the sun turning them to get the patina back on them. I've cleaned coins (i had too) to fetch a better price. And I've cleaned coins so safely and then re-patina-ed them so well that seasoned numismatic people could not tell.
      Peace and Morgan dollars uncleaned got me $15.00 each ...but if i dipped them in silver cleaner solution for 30 seconds and washed them gently...i was getting $19 to $22. So Yeah...who wouldn't want to clean some coins. I think part of the reason coin collectors tell people NOT to clean coins is so they can buy yours cheap and do it themselves (safely) and make more money instantly.

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад

      exactly

    • @MetalDetectingNY
      @MetalDetectingNY  2 года назад +1

      I'm not a coin collector nor will I sell any of these coins, But if I did I would never sell to a 1 collector, I put them on eBay to get top dollar and as them being cleaned would bring more money for sure.

    • @davemiller8215
      @davemiller8215 2 года назад +2

      @@LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC lol....be assured that THAT is not the reason.
      perhaps prettying up the low end copper stuff works for the lay public but any mid grade or high value coin should only be "professionally" cleaned so when the coin is examined and graded by a certified rating service, it is not rejected upon that basis(as happens quite frequently//or the coin may look VF+ but because it was altered, they will only certify F)
      .....and by the time you pay the hideously high ebay//paypal fees, the bump you might get from making these pennies shiny is primarily mitigated

    • @LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC
      @LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC 2 года назад

      @@davemiller8215 I agree only clean for low grade items. high grade should only be professionally cleaned. I was only joking about them wanting to buy your uncleaned coins so they could clean them and sell them for more....just seeing if anyone in the numismatic field was listening.