Having seen your original video about the CGO600 and researching further, I decided that it was the perfect bike for me. I love it and the gates carbon belt combined with the electric motor is fantastic. I even ride this bike regularly without any assistance as it is so light.
I've had my Estarli e28 since about May this year - I remember commenting about it on the original Tenways review - Estarli being on most Cycle-To-Work schemes was the thing that got me onboard with them in the end. Very stoked to see Estarli getting out there a little more! Loving mine, really appreciate the gears living in hilly Kent. The mudguards are earning their keep this time of year!
Thanks Eilis!! I really enjoy and appreciate your stellar reviews! You're definitely THE BEST, a real professional! John Larson, Bartlesville, Oklahoma, USA
Thank you, John!! Your support means everything. You should check out becoming an Electroheads Member. You can get early access to videos and other neat behind the scenes content 😀
Good video, thank you so much. Still waiting for such a motor with inbuilt gears, 2 or 3 would be sufficent. Then we could have affordable bikes with belt drive AND gears.
Thank you for this review. Benefits of gearing are hard to understand if you begin your journey with a single speed. Once you use gears, it's hard to give them up. In addition to difficulty riding with a flat battery, some are going to load up the back with a rack and panniers and groceries.
did she just do this whole dbl review ,stunts, cameras and all with zero help ? a raise for this production 'Team' . Arm twisted i'd go Estarli for hilly Seattle .
Just purchased the e28 used it for a week, fantastic bike for me as I have a few hills to contend with, you should have highlighted the integrated display on the handlebars , very cool feature, only issue I have at the moment is the crank has developed a squeak, but customer services is spot on and trying to help me get it sorted, I give this bike 4.5 out of 5 . Love it
Brilliant reviews was in market to buy first e bike but confused by the range ,but thanks to eilish reviews was pole to pole between tenways and estarli ,ordered Estarli from your site and awaiting g order ,have some health issues at 55 that has made me consider ebikes ,again brilliant reviews thank you for the content .
Hi Marvin! Thanks for the kind words - our shop manager says that they don't have an order under your name! We just want to make sure that if you have ordered an Estarli from us that you definitely get it. Could you email hello@electroheads.com and let them know your order number? Thanks!
@@Electroheads my friend Stuart greene orderd on his credit card why you didnt see my name but was for me ,received and built but not rode yet as i have covid at present
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tbh, this is the first time i really thought about getting an ebike. in the past i always instantly thought my racing bike is much better for daily use in the city.
Cadence sensor bikes will keep giving you its intended power, no matter how tired your legs get. Conversely, torque sensor bikes reflect and amplify your fatigue, by giving less as you able to give less.
from my experience, torque sensor are much more natural, you get the electric support nearly immediately. With cadence sensor, you have to do a half(?) turn of the cranks before the motor starts. It's makes it much more responsive to use, I think.
@9:21 Is that a big ole bike locker? If so, please take the time to spotlight those in your videos. Most places don't have them, and we need to see it to be it!
thanks to your channel i bought two 16 inch wheel folding bikes one new and the other secondhand and 60 squids best thing i ever did as they are so much Fun (would of never believed it.. tour de Britain now on the cards now)
Tenways are not selling to the UK directly through their website. Quote: We are so sorry for the inconvenience caused, now we do not sell in the UK online according to our recent plan, but you could choose to buy offline. They suggest buying from a UK dealer.
I used to want a Tenways CGO600 however after talking with customer service they have completely stopped production of the S size (covering heights from 5ft-5ft9 if i remember correctly). I found that kind of strange as its next bike starts off at 5ft4/5 so they just cut off a portion of their customer base who don't want a step through style bike
I love the idea of the gears of the estarli but hate the non removable battery that the tenways now offers I'm finding it hard to choose between the two.
I hope no one thinks they can ship their bike back to China, or even the factory in UK for repair. All bike repair is local. Maybe the bigger concern with all these Direct To Consumer bikes brands is can your Local Bike Shop, or you yourself, source replacement parts to fix it? This is why bike shops wouldn't want to retail DTC grade bikes. They need to honor a warranty and even out of warranty, they need to be able to look their customer in the eyes and say, I can fix your broken bike. With some DTC, they'd have to say, "I cannot get parts for that motor, and that motor is no longer available that I can see, so we'd have to try to lace up a new wheel with a new motor as long as I can find one that's compatible with your built in controller." I think some interviews with Local Bike Shop mechanics are in order. Bring these bikes to them with some theoretical failures and see what they say about parts availability for in-frame battery failures, failed sensors, etc.
I think they're good value for money personally I wouldn't buy another cheap electric bike as I regretted it. just bad quality not worth the saving in the long run. Estarli one I would have big hills in Wales... however love the belt drive wonder if they do a belt drive with 8 speed hub gears as exposed chain drives seem sold. fashioned.... 👍😁 2 great bikes!
Do you take requests in regards to videos because I would like to get your opinion on the Brompton P- Line electric, and compare to the P-Line ordinary but with the new switch kit fitted, and I’ve not seen any videos at all with the new switch kit the one that came out this year seen loads regarding the old version.
@@Electroheads what is your intentions with the Brompton are you trying to experiment with maybe generate powering it via the crank or maybe use the windmill effect as your riding it to generate power so as you rid you are your own power sauce and use the detachable batteries to use in the home .
i bought an estrali e28 and it has literally changed my life. my car is now gathering dust on the driveway.. absolutely briiliant bit of kit.. ive lost weight , got fitter and saved money on fuel etc . whats not to like ??
I would prefer the Tenways but with gears, please! ;-) The estarli is unfortunately not an option for me because of the non-removable battery for charging.
REVIEW OF TENWAYS: So I wanted to make a complaint and find a rapid solution to some problems with your product. After watching many reviews I was super excited to get my hands on this product. But the whole experience so far has been awful. After long delays on delivery (4 weeks) I had to book 4 vacation days off work (as it never arrived on the programmed time) to receive the product. So I have lost 4 days of work And then, when it did arrive, to make things worse, it arrived with the wrong parts making the bike completely defunct and obsolete: the wheel doesn't even fit under the frame making it impossible to turn I am not sure if the wheel is too big, both are at 70cm (in which case you need to send a new wheel) Note: the ordered bike is Medium size Or if the frame and forks are too small (in which case you need to send a new bike) The problem now is about broken trust With the shipping issues you have lost trust, how can i know i don't have to wait 4 weeks to return then 4 weeks to get a replacement, making the whole debacle 3 months on length You have broken trust in the quality control of breaks and batteries. I cant establish these work if I cannot even attach the front wheel and I can see this has been an issue with other companies You have broken trust in your customer service, I have emailed for a business invoice and help with shipping twice with no reply at all for weeks. On your website it states you reply in 24 hours and it is 'professional.' This is a lie and at best mis marketing. Other failures: Your instruction manual is out of date The front light was applied backwards There may be more to discover I am not even close to closing this chapter as I will have to navigate bad customer support now ----- For the record: I will not accept anything short of an immediate shipment of a replacement bike or certainly that a new wheel will suffice, but given that the both are 70cm i presume both wheels are the wrong size in the case ----- I expect a reply within 24 hours, with a phone number to speak with a real person, otherwise i will file a "european small claims report" and you can arbitrate though court. I will also pass this story onto friend in Barcelona who runs a prominent bicycle review blog / socials here I will change this entry and update dependent on how you respond ----- ADVICE TO CUSTOMERS: Do not be fooled by the slick design of the website and paid promotions, this company has not got its act together abd will cause you a huge headache I am always willing to be convinced otherwise but let's see. So far: avoid like the plague Connor Addison
Nice comparison! I would argue though that the Tenways is a bit ahead, it's priced a bit better, has the mudguards etc included, as well as they puncture proof tyres. They do both look good though.
Undoubtedly these are nice looking bikes, but " two of the best electric bikes on the market right now", after thousands of miles on both hubdrive and crankdrive I'd never say that of a hubdrive. I say this as someone who has had my own share of hip problems, in fact that's why I got my first ebike,
I can see this version of the E28 has a bit of give and black crumple band around the front fork. This however isn't shown on Estarli's website or any sellers specs or images. Any info on why your spec is different? Thanks!
Hi Anthony! The version in this video is an experimental version with a front suspension (that's the black band you're seeing). If you'd prefer this over non-suspension, then we recommend waiting a couple of months as we've heard it's likely to come out in the new year
I contacted Tenways about this and they replied saying they are not currently selling in the UK. They recommended two official dealers in the UK but neither were honouring the £100 off the lime green version. I did find a dealer that did (Horizon Micromobility) and ordered it from them. Delivered in two days and I love it! Hope this helps.
I need gears for the hills, but I also need a removable battery for charging so neither of these is for me. I'd also like a Gates belt, but to get one of those with gears you are starting to talk a different price bracket entirely.
Unfortunately you can't switch out batteries as it is encased inside both frames. But you can get it changed when it dies with help from a repair shop!
Great minds think alike, I buy each of my bikes the same saddle too because my equally bony arse can totally get Princess and the Pea sore and bruised all over if I'm sitting on the wrong seat.
The carbon belt drive of the tenways is such a feature for a commuter bike... but the gears of the starli... I would choose the tenways but it is just a biased opinion. The belt and the integration as a package give it that slightly superior appearance. Great video. Great bikes. Eilish, a classy angel, as usual😊😊. Great point of view from a frequent bike commuter.👍👍
The security code feature is a bust, because it does not have a touchscreen or a keypad. It would take you a minute or more to try to up/down, enter your way through the menu using the buttons to enter. It's also just a goofy feature that Chinese motor makers include for free and no one uses because entry is so sketchy. No points for that one.
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Dunno why but an Eilis video cheers me up
She has positive energy.
You're too kind ☺
Really? - I find her irritating 🤷♂️
She seems like she’s just her authentic, normal self, which people will notice in a positive way. :)
@@kola100same
Having seen your original video about the CGO600 and researching further, I decided that it was the perfect bike for me. I love it and the gates carbon belt combined with the electric motor is fantastic. I even ride this bike regularly without any assistance as it is so light.
I've had my Estarli e28 since about May this year - I remember commenting about it on the original Tenways review - Estarli being on most Cycle-To-Work schemes was the thing that got me onboard with them in the end. Very stoked to see Estarli getting out there a little more! Loving mine, really appreciate the gears living in hilly Kent. The mudguards are earning their keep this time of year!
Does your have suspension? I've noticed there is a mini suspension on hers buy can't see that on the site?
@@BamBam-me8sf mine doesn't. I had a chat with the estarli guys and they said they're trialling the suspension upgrades currently.
@@Moto_Tails thanks for the info. Id certainly go with estrali over a tenways then.
We'll have the suspension model on our store towards the end of this year 👍
@@Electroheads do you know the date? Could I still get the 5% discount by then? Do you know if you can lock out the suspension? Thanks.
Many thanks for this review. I knew about the Tenways CGO600 but had not heard of the Estarli e28. The later looks just ideal for me!
Thanks Eilis!! I really enjoy and appreciate your stellar reviews! You're definitely THE BEST, a real professional! John Larson, Bartlesville, Oklahoma, USA
Thank you, John!! Your support means everything. You should check out becoming an Electroheads Member. You can get early access to videos and other neat behind the scenes content 😀
@@Electroheads You're welcome Eilis! I just created an account on your website. Does this mean I'm an Electroheads Member? 🙂
Good video, thank you so much. Still waiting for such a motor with inbuilt gears, 2 or 3 would be sufficent. Then we could have affordable bikes with belt drive AND gears.
Thank you for this review. Benefits of gearing are hard to understand if you begin your journey with a single speed. Once you use gears, it's hard to give them up. In addition to difficulty riding with a flat battery, some are going to load up the back with a rack and panniers and groceries.
Finally subscribed. Enjoy ElectroHeads very much. Cheers!
Hi Eilis I had a Hip replacement and that's what got me into electric bikes and now I've got three 😄
Same here, ankle replacement. I'm working towards a 10 ebike garage, it seems!
Great video as usual, thank you 🙏 😊
did she just do this whole dbl review ,stunts, cameras and all with zero help ? a raise for this production 'Team' . Arm twisted i'd go Estarli for hilly Seattle .
Just purchased the e28 used it for a week, fantastic bike for me as I have a few hills to contend with, you should have highlighted the integrated display on the handlebars , very cool feature, only issue I have at the moment is the crank has developed a squeak, but customer services is spot on and trying to help me get it sorted, I give this bike 4.5 out of 5 . Love it
Hey, is the motor silent ish please?
Brilliant reviews was in market to buy first e bike but confused by the range ,but thanks to eilish reviews was pole to pole between tenways and estarli ,ordered Estarli from your site and awaiting g order ,have some health issues at 55 that has made me consider ebikes ,again brilliant reviews thank you for the content .
Hi Marvin! Thanks for the kind words - our shop manager says that they don't have an order under your name! We just want to make sure that if you have ordered an Estarli from us that you definitely get it. Could you email hello@electroheads.com and let them know your order number?
Thanks!
@@Electroheads my friend Stuart greene orderd on his credit card why you didnt see my name but was for me ,received and built but not rode yet as i have covid at present
Interested in the Tenways CGo600? You can get the BEST price with our affiliate link:
🔗 fas.st/t/37C9ayP9
Available in US 🇺🇸, EU 🇪🇺 and UK 🇬🇧
Buy the Estarli e28 from Electroheads:
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tbh, this is the first time i really thought about getting an ebike.
in the past i always instantly thought my racing bike is much better for daily use in the city.
Cadence sensor bikes will keep giving you its intended power, no matter how tired your legs get. Conversely, torque sensor bikes reflect and amplify your fatigue, by giving less as you able to give less.
from my experience, torque sensor are much more natural, you get the electric support nearly immediately. With cadence sensor, you have to do a half(?) turn of the cranks before the motor starts. It's makes it much more responsive to use, I think.
@9:21 Is that a big ole bike locker? If so, please take the time to spotlight those in your videos. Most places don't have them, and we need to see it to be it!
thanks to your channel i bought two 16 inch wheel folding bikes one new and the other secondhand and 60 squids best thing i ever did as they are so much Fun (would of never believed it.. tour de Britain now on the cards now)
That's awesome!! Glad to hear you're enjoying them
Tenways are not selling to the UK directly through their website.
Quote: We are so sorry for the inconvenience caused, now we do not sell in the UK online according to our recent plan, but you could choose to buy offline.
They suggest buying from a UK dealer.
Exactly the video I was waiting for
Amazing!
The Estarli E28 also has suspension.
I used to want a Tenways CGO600 however after talking with customer service they have completely stopped production of the S size (covering heights from 5ft-5ft9 if i remember correctly). I found that kind of strange as its next bike starts off at 5ft4/5 so they just cut off a portion of their customer base who don't want a step through style bike
Can you do the new Tenways 600 Pro vs the Estarli e28 please
I love the idea of the gears of the estarli but hate the non removable battery that the tenways now offers I'm finding it hard to choose between the two.
I'd go for the Estarli because it is a beauty and it has a gear shift (it's not flat where I live).
It's a bit of a looker, isn't it!
@@Electroheads it is! 😉
I hope no one thinks they can ship their bike back to China, or even the factory in UK for repair. All bike repair is local. Maybe the bigger concern with all these Direct To Consumer bikes brands is can your Local Bike Shop, or you yourself, source replacement parts to fix it? This is why bike shops wouldn't want to retail DTC grade bikes. They need to honor a warranty and even out of warranty, they need to be able to look their customer in the eyes and say, I can fix your broken bike. With some DTC, they'd have to say, "I cannot get parts for that motor, and that motor is no longer available that I can see, so we'd have to try to lace up a new wheel with a new motor as long as I can find one that's compatible with your built in controller."
I think some interviews with Local Bike Shop mechanics are in order. Bring these bikes to them with some theoretical failures and see what they say about parts availability for in-frame battery failures, failed sensors, etc.
It would be good to see a video about the process of buying a bike using cycle to work.
Also Engwe t14 vs dyu
And ado vs Engwe pro vs mate x
Great suggestions! I'll keep this all in mind
@@Electroheads also do you guys ever keep e bikes and scooters that other people could try or do you have to send them back after reviews
Single speed all the way for me ❤
I prefer the tenways but cycling from Bracknell to Windsor for work is hilly so I’ll happy get the estarli instead!
If you sign up to our mailing list (on our homepage - Electroheads.com) you can get £50 off any e-bike in our range.
I think they're good value for money personally I wouldn't buy another cheap electric bike as I regretted it. just bad quality not worth the saving in the long run.
Estarli one I would have big hills in Wales... however love the belt drive wonder if they do a belt drive with 8 speed hub gears as exposed chain drives seem sold. fashioned.... 👍😁 2 great bikes!
Do you take requests in regards to videos because I would like to get your opinion on the Brompton P- Line electric, and compare to the P-Line ordinary but with the new switch kit fitted, and I’ve not seen any videos at all with the new switch kit the one that came out this year seen loads regarding the old version.
If they can't make money off affiliate links then it's unlikely you will ever hear about it here.
@@dtz1000 ok shame but thanks for the honesty, song .
Hi Kavan, we're trying to get hold of a Brompton but it's been difficult to get one without putting a huge deposit down.
@@Electroheads what is your intentions with the Brompton are you trying to experiment with maybe generate powering it via the crank or maybe use the windmill effect as your riding it to generate power so as you rid you are your own power sauce and use the detachable batteries to use in the home .
i bought an estrali e28 and it has literally changed my life. my car is now gathering dust on the driveway.. absolutely briiliant bit of kit.. ive lost weight , got fitter and saved money on fuel etc . whats not to like ??
I would prefer the Tenways but with gears, please! ;-)
The estarli is unfortunately not an option for me because of the non-removable battery for charging.
Thanks for your e-bike review, your very beautiful!
Does the estarli have a security feature like the tenways?
Hows the tenways handle hills? I know single speeds without motors are awful for hill but with a motor might work?
no i dont think so
And she said it wont so...........
REVIEW OF TENWAYS: So I wanted to make a complaint and find a rapid solution to some problems with your product. After watching many reviews I was super excited to get my hands on this product.
But the whole experience so far has been awful.
After long delays on delivery (4 weeks) I had to book 4 vacation days off work (as it never arrived on the programmed time) to receive the product. So I have lost 4 days of work
And then, when it did arrive, to make things worse, it arrived with the wrong parts making the bike completely defunct and obsolete: the wheel doesn't even fit under the frame making it impossible to turn
I am not sure if the wheel is too big, both are at 70cm (in which case you need to send a new wheel)
Note: the ordered bike is Medium size
Or if the frame and forks are too small (in which case you need to send a new bike)
The problem now is about broken trust
With the shipping issues you have lost trust, how can i know i don't have to wait 4 weeks to return then 4 weeks to get a replacement, making the whole debacle 3 months on length
You have broken trust in the quality control of breaks and batteries. I cant establish these work if I cannot even attach the front wheel and I can see this has been an issue with other companies
You have broken trust in your customer service, I have emailed for a business invoice and help with shipping twice with no reply at all for weeks. On your website it states you reply in 24 hours and it is 'professional.' This is a lie and at best mis marketing.
Other failures:
Your instruction manual is out of date
The front light was applied backwards
There may be more to discover
I am not even close to closing this chapter as I will have to navigate bad customer support now
-----
For the record:
I will not accept anything short of an immediate shipment of a replacement bike
or certainly that a new wheel will suffice, but given that the both are 70cm i presume both wheels are the wrong size in the case
-----
I expect a reply within 24 hours, with a phone number to speak with a real person, otherwise i will file a "european small claims report" and you can arbitrate though court.
I will also pass this story onto friend in Barcelona who runs a prominent bicycle review blog / socials here
I will change this entry and update dependent on how you respond
-----
ADVICE TO CUSTOMERS: Do not be fooled by the slick design of the website and paid promotions, this company has not got its act together abd will cause you a huge headache
I am always willing to be convinced otherwise but let's see.
So far: avoid like the plague
Connor Addison
Hi Connor, would you mind editing this comment so it doesn't sound like Electroheads sold you the bike! As we don't sell Tenways products. Thank you
@@Electroheads why don't you sell Tenways products? This review makes it seem like you guys love them.
Cheers Eilis
Hiya. Slightly worried about security when leaving it locked up in town. Do the lights and control unit detach?
Why didn't Tenway call it the E-GO ? 🤷
Nice comparison! I would argue though that the Tenways is a bit ahead, it's priced a bit better, has the mudguards etc included, as well as they puncture proof tyres. They do both look good though.
Hi, is the motor on the Estarli silent ?
Undoubtedly these are nice looking bikes, but " two of the best electric bikes on the market right now", after thousands of miles on both hubdrive and crankdrive I'd never say that of a hubdrive. I say this as someone who has had my own share of hip problems, in fact that's why I got my first ebike,
I can see this version of the E28 has a bit of give and black crumple band around the front fork. This however isn't shown on Estarli's website or any sellers specs or images. Any info on why your spec is different? Thanks!
Hi Anthony! The version in this video is an experimental version with a front suspension (that's the black band you're seeing). If you'd prefer this over non-suspension, then we recommend waiting a couple of months as we've heard it's likely to come out in the new year
I wanted to buy the tenways. But is always out of stock on their site.
I contacted Tenways about this and they replied saying they are not currently selling in the UK. They recommended two official dealers in the UK but neither were honouring the £100 off the lime green version. I did find a dealer that did (Horizon Micromobility) and ordered it from them. Delivered in two days and I love it! Hope this helps.
We're honouring the prices, stock is limited but we're getting stock in all the time. 👍
Hi just wondering how tall are you ?
I need gears for the hills, but I also need a removable battery for charging so neither of these is for me. I'd also like a Gates belt, but to get one of those with gears you are starting to talk a different price bracket entirely.
I feel your pain as in the same situation. Did you ever find the bike to suit those needs?
@@kismo6167 I am still wracked with indecision
I like Eilis!
On a long hilly ride can you change the battery? If that is possible how much does a spare battery cost?
Unfortunately you can't switch out batteries as it is encased inside both frames. But you can get it changed when it dies with help from a repair shop!
What if you’re a big guy that weighs over 120kg?
Are they waterproof I mean if I use daily to commute to work on rainy days and stuff thank you
Yep! Both waterproof
@@Electroheads great thx for info much appreciate it 👍
Great minds think alike, I buy each of my bikes the same saddle too because my equally bony arse can totally get Princess and the Pea sore and bruised all over if I'm sitting on the wrong seat.
Yes! I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's all about your own saddle 👏
The carbon belt drive of the tenways is such a feature for a commuter bike... but the gears of the starli...
I would choose the tenways but it is just a biased opinion. The belt and the integration as a package give it that slightly superior appearance.
Great video. Great bikes. Eilish, a classy angel, as usual😊😊. Great point of view from a frequent bike commuter.👍👍
Loved hearing our thoughts! And thank you 😀
Imagine a crankdrive motor with a belt, combined with a Shimano Nexus or Alfine hub gearbox, with electric shifting 😍 that would be the dream
I had both hips replaced 11 years ago and ride mountain bikes including racing enduros ...... no e- bike in sight
The security code feature is a bust, because it does not have a touchscreen or a keypad. It would take you a minute or more to try to up/down, enter your way through the menu using the buttons to enter. It's also just a goofy feature that Chinese motor makers include for free and no one uses because entry is so sketchy. No points for that one.
I rate this video ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 😀
Thank you!!! 🥰
Its Cool
Id hate one single gear. I want gears.
Wait for the .... ELEVENWAYS
💛💛💛💛 💛
but the re sell of a folding bike 16 inch in a few years looks to be the cost of a Cheeseburger.. but hey who cares
fall off a few times and you will feel the benefit of wearing gloves, gravel rash is nasty.
Good point! I use gloves more on my commutes than when I'm filming but you ain't wrong
Unpopular opinion:
Eilis is a real hazard in traffic.
All the drivers be looking at her and get distracted 🙃