Biggest AI Tournament in Forts! - Forts RTS - Livestream
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Hello there! Project Incursus here! Today we're broadcasting the largest AI Tourny to date! With more than 20 participants and a 1000 USD prize pool (Sponsored by Kalijah Anderson, one of the long time members of the community). This is just the first of a multi-day event, come check it out!
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Forts is a physics-based RTS where foes design and build custom bases, arm them to the teeth and blast their opponent's creations to rubble.
Build an armoured fort in real-time and arm it to the teeth. Collect resources, develop your tech-tree, unlock advanced weapons to target your opponent's weak points, and feel the satisfaction as their fort comes crashing down.
Forts's Steampage: store.steampowe...
i think the amburulo test ai is genius, AT LEAST in the context of the tournament. it's a benchmark that weeds out all entries that cant achieve a certain level of quality and thats why i love it!
its like having an open book test and FAILING.
Ambrulo's design with small door AP snipers would be terrifying
2:03 stream start
8:15 Ambrulo vs Von Eagle
32:07 Raaang alrts vs Ledur
49:41 Tiger vs Flinnshadow
1:03:48 EtaN vs Finn
1:16:06 Flinnshadow vs EtaN
1:18:45 Finn vs Ambrulo
1:26:21 Raaang Alert vs Tiger
You finishing this?
@@noneofyourbusiness4133 probably not, you can take it to continue
@@max.the.imperorthis community has truly fallen off now…
Thank you max. Top work
1:47:45 Von Eagle vs Ledur
I love those AI tournaments! Can't wait to see more:)))
Same here. I like the normal games and wish we had more of those too.
To deal with the issue mentioned around 3:14:00 about no incentive to kill an opponent when they're locked down you could give points. 1 point for a win and 1 point for each destroyed core.
*bad UFC fan impression*:
“The Amburulo AI could have definitely come back. The match was called too early. Fire the refs.”
OMG! rage alert Vs tiger was EPIC!!! that matchup is gonna be hard to beat...
Ahh, the german words... Kranken Wagen, aschenputtel and panzerkampfwagen...
37:01 that nuke
Seeing as the AI is basically just a build order (linked list) of 'things at location', you could have an AI that can manipulate the build order and/or the list of 'things to be built'.
Programmer2Programmer I'd say 'think of DOM-Tree manipulation' and your typical JavaScript manipulations.
Naturally a programmer would have to still build the various structures, as the AI would just 'pick&place', and can also define variants, i.e. branches. You would also group up items. f.i. a platform onto which you place your cannon.
It could also change the ordering so you could change which gunner get's built so it does not soft-lock.
Deformation would be solved by not being able to place a structure which in turn removes the structure from the list (or disables it for a while)
You should see if Code Bullet could make an AI with artificial learning for Forts.
You should definitely disable the rain, as it really messes with RUclips's compression and made a lot of artifacts throughout the stream.
22:22 ... Is the core of the top left base undefended at times and not being hit by the opponents snipers? I thought it hit once, but only when shooting at a weapon and not ever targeting the core itself. (edit: It did end up getting taken out, but I'm not sure if it was targeted specifically or if a weapon was targeted and the core was collateral damage.)
1:49:00
He does enjoy the tongue play
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"i do enjoy the tongue play" sorry I had to
I would love to see an AI vs Etan video. See who can make an AI that can beat him
I love the AI matches... but I hate that it's 100% about luck and not so much about skill. It just depends who you get matched up against and which method that team chose vs which method you chose. Can win or lose completely by luck.
Ye, it would be great if someone would put an AI that can adapt but probably to hard to make
@@yoav.kats6328 Yeah. Believe it or not, it actually wouldn't be as hard as people realize. It's entirely possible with neural networks and I've been very surprised that nobody has done it by now. It's 100% doable though and they could definitely make better AI's than with the method they've been using (the build order method with priorities). It's still cool to watch this method though and I've definitely learned a lot (so I'm glad they have it).
I still think luck would have a whole lot to do with it too, because if you pit 2 AI's against each other and one wins, it does not mean that it will win again... and it would still boil down to which team picked the better random attack methods/weapons. I can't think of the right words/terms at the moment.
@@yoav.kats6328 Sorry, I forgot to mention also that I think it would be good if each team got to make 1 move once per match or once every 5 minutes or something like that. That way if they get "soft locked" or "hard locked" over something stupid, they can fix it and move on without losing unfairly over flaws in the systems design. (Although it has led to some good and creative solutions to design their build orders in a way that won't get soft locked or hard locked.
The problem is that in forts, this doesn’t exist. Without a drastically different AI mod, networks are impossible to implement in forts. The ‘ai’ simply follows a build order identical to it’s recording (made by watching a player and coping them), and then utilizing the weapons it has to shoot at targets
@@emmetmichigan8188 Yeah, that's what I'm sayin. It could actually be done with a fairly easy 3rd party program that runs independently from the game. I'm sure it's a little more difficult than I''m making it sound like... but I think it could be done fairly easily with neural nest (which are not even AI...and I guess if we're talking about real AI, then that would be extremely hard to make... but starting off with an already programmed AI (template), I think it could be very easy easy to teach them how to play (or teach themselves how to play).
Kinda surprised no one has attempted to counter Von Eagle's super low, steep-angle, "attack the core from below" tactics considering they have used it in various AI tournaments over the past two years. Like no one defends their base from below. It's the human thinking bleeding through AI programming. No player would ever try that tactic because it would be a waste of resources so no one builds that defense, but that's why Von Eagle's tactic is so effective. Because they are actually thinking outside the box.
About the learning AI - it getting good might eventually make it too good for the player to defeat. At that point the game becomes unplayable.
Firstly we are at this point alrady where the "Ultra-hard AI" can only be defeated by the best playrs if they know the build and can find some waknss to exploit with Buzz for example and softlock it this way.
Secondly Cronkhinator is basically modding the game and programming the AI to shoot more accurately or smarter so no learnig atm and it is not implemented in vanilla Forts.
please link to the second half of this tournament?
I did not know, that the gane is still alive that much.
Zero gravity ai tournament?
Can we have English translation please?? :3 :3 :3
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ludicrously expensive though
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Also, graphene can be made at home now very easily and is a very, very inexpensive material to produce. Just like Aluminum was more rare and expensive than gold, but is now a common and inexpensive metal, graphene is an inexpensive material... and it can be made at home without expensive equipment). Which cannot be said for aluminum, because it requires insane amounts of electricity to reverse oxidation from the aluminum ore).
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No matter who makes the stuff, Big Pharma, government, etc, they will jack the price sky high. Just look at braces. It's just shaped metal, yet it costs several thousands to get them.
can you do the gameplays this should be for the devs chanels, the hell is wrong with you.
can you do the English? Lmaooo
Incursus works closely with us on official Forts streams, and this is a community event! No harm done.
@@EarthWorkGames that was not the point, This is a "lets play channel" he cant have it both ways. If hes working with you guys post it on you guys channel, the lets plays HE plays what are 20% in the past 6 months should be posted here, 80% of your colabs should be there. (double diping)
@@Andrei.G.T he can have it every way he desires it's his channel. Dipping Into different areas is how people grow. Also what sick twisted world do you want to visit 18 different channels to watch the tournament? Having the pov of one of the commentators is amazing
@TufanAndrei
"can you do the gameplays this should be for the devs chanels, the hell is wrong with you. "
the hell is wrong with you?