Lauf Úthald vs State Allroad - Arizona Test
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- The State Allroad vs the Lauf Úthald - which is a better bike for you?
Both are consumer direct, and both punch above their weight for capability and price.
State is based in Arizona. Lauf is based in Iceland. Both brands have their frames made in China.
I spent a week in Arizona at The Cycling House enjoying one of their Mixed Terrain Camps.
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Arizona is gorgeous, diverse, and great for testing - in part because some of the roads aren’t great.
The Úthald is Lauf’s first road bike, and features its ‘Smoothie Bar’ and high-flex back end. It starts at $3,600 and this SRAM Force model goes for $4,700.
The State Allroad starts at $900 for an aluminum bike, and this carbon frame with SRAM Apex goes for $3,000.
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Ben! Really enjoyed the video with the mix of geography, travel, and bike review rolled into one.
Video content idea…maybe consider adding a “What I’d change” commentary in your summaries. I think this would be different than “what I didn’t like”. My thought is the manufacturers might take your ideas back to future iterations.
For example, it could be recommendations to how they specced the bike vs how it was marketed. More expensive or cost savings tweaks to better align to what’s being offered.
The handlebar on the State is a great examples. “If I were State selling this as an all road bike, I’d change the handlebar to be a bit wider with some flare/flex even if it meant raising the price $50 or so.”
For the Lauf, “The overall package seems right inline with the price, if spec it with a slightly larger stock tire to maximize the cushy feeling of the first ride.”
Enjoy the ride amigo.
Great suggestions. Thank you.
I've had my Uthald for about 2 weeks now and I love it. Swapped the stem out for a slightly longer one but otherwise the setup is great. Fast and smooth with a cushy yet solid feel over rough stuff. I like the handling too; less twitchy than my Tarmac but not sluggish at all.
I was curious if it felt too slow. I’ve had a tarmac and the one thing that I don’t like about my Salsa Warbird is the sloooow handling.
Looking at Uthald for endurance road rides and some gravel. I am 5'10 215lbs, would that rear be too soft?
@@jreh3811 I wouldn't say that the rear end feels soft as much as bumps feel muted when you hit them. The bike overall feels solid to me, but bumps potholes etc have a less jaring feeling than I expect when I hit them.
What size did you get? I am 6 ft and on the site for Lauf it says if you are right on the edge of sizing to size up if you want a more comfortable fit and size down if you want more aggressive. I definitely want more comfort if i am to get one.
@@stizz19 I got a medium. I'm about 5'11". It comes out incredibly similar if not a bit larger feeling than my 56cm Tarmac which really surprised me. I think because the front center is larger and the top tube is less sloping.
Never thought I'd run a 32 cassette. But paired with the compact big ring that 2nd/3rd gear is great for most climbs where I live. Mad that a lot of the pro's are using a 30/32 cassette. Makes sense. You can still build strength can't you with that setup
Strength training through gearing isn't really a great way to get stronger. That said, a steep enough climb will have pros mashing a 32t too... many are also not using compact chainrings.
Thanks for the video and info on those bikes. Most importantly, thanks for the scenery. Headed back out to Tucson at end of March and can't wait to do Gates Pass, Lemmon and Kitt. Sad but only taking the road bike this time around.
Great review as usual - thanks. Cycling House has been on my radar for a while - they offer a lot of bang for the buck.
Another great video Ben! Before Christmas i was planning on buying the Lauf Uthald (super happy with my Siegla) when it came out in January, however, after I watched your Fezzari Veyo review I ended up going with the Vey and glad I did but It sounds like either the Uthald or the Veyo would have been good choices.
The blurring of road/allroad/gravel bike categories is great, but it seems to be confusing some manufacturers. This Lauf ‘road’ bike is really an allroad bike as you say, with a gravel bike rear end / compliance; and the State ‘gravel’ bike with bikepacking mounts all over it is really a gravel race bike in terms of geometry. Trying to bikepack with that geometry would not be a pleasant experience in terms of load / bike balance. The diversity within gravel biking is its strength and every bike out there is ideal for someone, but the industry categorisations are getting confusing, especially for the majority who are not ‘bike geometry nerds’! :) ...Beautiful riding country out there …and interesting to see that all your ride buddies were on Cervèlo Aspero’s, still the best ‘gravel race bike’ available IMO :).
Damn Ben live the best life. I like that State bike
State bikes and riding in dirty T -:100% Arizona. Love it! Currently riding Siegla and not seeing huge differences between these bikes. Maybe the 2x gearing? Sitting in PHX with broken hand and not being able to ride in this peak season is killing me
State Allroad looks like Ridley Kanzo or the french brand GIRS cycles (RNR). Anyway, nice bike!
has to be one of the most popular open mould frames ever, I think the manufacture is Carbonda and the model is the 696 but its hard to say for sure, this frame has been available from over 10 brands now. Other than State every other version usually come with a slightly longer a2c and beefier fork with clearance for 50c.
Thanks for doing a video featuring bikes in a “lower” price point. I’d love to spend 10k on a bike, but my wife would kill me.
Nice review
6:58 -- enjoyed the pained expression on short-shorts, big-hair guy.
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loved my time on the uthald!!
at 6'3" local bike shops never have my size in stock anyway so I am and probably always will be a direct / online buyer.
What size Lauf would you buy for extra comfort?
That State frame looks like an open frame from a factory somewhere in China, exactly like a Pearl or a Berria… Same frame but different labels
has to be one of the most popular open mould frames of all time, I think the actual manufacture is Carbonda the model is the 696 but its hard to say for sure...Carbonda might just be another re seller. State went with a slightly shorter less beefy fork so the claimed geo is slightly different, but its the same frame for sure (my wife has the State I have the Carbonda 696) we both run the 696 fork with the mounts.
Thanks Ben! Enjoyed!!!!!
Great video. Ride On!
Thanks for your review. There aren’t many videos of either of these out there.
Are you on a medium or large Lauf?
To achieve my current fit as a 6ft tall rider I either need to go with medium with all spacers and a longer stem, or a large with the stem slammed. After your time on the bike do you think sizing up or down would be more beneficial for handling and comfort?
I'm 6ft and this was a Medium. I'd suggest you giving the folks at Lauf a call to sort through the specifics, because our ideal fits could be different.
@anticlimacus513 did you ever pull the trigger on the Lauf? What size did you go with? And how do you like it so far!
Lauf has a 30 day trial period. If you don't like it you can send it back.
Trying to decide between Lauf Uthald and Canyon Endurance and Cannondale Carbon Synapse 2LE . I am going to be 75% road and 25% light gravel to gravel (willing to get bigger tires later) . Let me know your recommendations. My budget is $4K :)
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what size did you use on the Lauf Úthald ? and what size are you inseam length and how tall you are :D nice video keep it up!
Ben, thanks for the great review!Hey, I’m looking to learn a bit about what fame size you feature and some of your measurements, if you don’t mind sharing. What is your Inseam pant length and your height?
32, 6ft
Same as me!
From Lauf’s sizing chart we’re on the cusp of sizes. Did you get a Large or Medium?
@@DoingFunAdventures Yeah, I often am a tweener, and I opt for a smaller size and then adjust with a longer stem as needed. That's because I prefer 172.5 cranks and 42 bars, which usually come on 56/M bikes and then they jump up on L/58. Same deal with the head tube. Just personal preference.
Thanks!
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Do you think the Uthauld will handle rail trails, forest sevice roads and limestone in western US? I'm debating between it and the Seigla. I want to use the same bike for road. I'm a road biker by experience, but want the flexibility on my upcoming trip. Thanks for your advice.
I hope Lauf offers a frameset option soon.
I asked on their online chat, they did say it was planned. But they had no specific timeframe on when it will be available
They do now. ❤
Is riding Gates Pass sketchy when you aren’t in a group?
Eg narrow road , no shoulder, lots of traffic?
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Cervelos ... 🤟
2:00 i dont think ever seen anything more American... lmfao
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Hey ben i want to ride 80% road 20% gravel on my endurance bike. Wondering if you had a tire suggestion? I was thinking the 35 mm Vittoria corsa control pro, 32 gp 5000 s tr, 35 Schwalbe g one rs, Michelin power adventure classic tlr 36
Ps the 32 maxxis high roads work fine on the gravel ? Isnt it a completely slick tire ?
Panaracer Gravelking Slick 700 x 35 are an excellent road biased gravel tyre. Also Maxxis Velocita 700 x 40 are excellent if you want slicks with proper gravel tyre volume, I run these on my gravel bike if I’m doing a mixed road & dry gravel ride.
Thank you 😊@@3TZZZ
+ it all depends on the type of riding you’re doing. One wheel / tyre combo can’t do it all. Obvioiusly there’s a difference between one ride that is 80% road / 20% gravel; or general bike use that is 80% road / 20% gravel. If your 20% gravel ride for the week is all done in one ride that is 100% gravel, it might be better to use gravel tyres with more gravel focussed tread. Also depending on the type of gravel and the weather conditions. Gravel slicks on rough or wet gravel are not good!
...I actually use 4 different wheelsets on my gravel bikes: 1. with 700 x 32mm road tyres for road. 2. with Maxxis Velocita 700 x 40mm gravel slicks for mixed rides in the dry. 3. with 700 x 40mm gravel tyres such as Schwalbe G-One R / RS for 90% gravel rides or gravel races. 4. 650b wheels with 47-50mm gravel tyres with knobby mtb tread for wet / rough gravel / bikepacking. Hope this helps too. @@sanynava
@@3TZZZ that definitely helps....tbh my gravel is just riding rail paths and will not be on a regular basis .... But that's good to know and definitely agree with all your points. Out of curiosity...what road tire do you use ?
Cool, nothing wrong with rail paths! Gravel slicks would be great for most of those. …Currently I’m using Conti GP5000 32mm road tyres. They’re nice on road, but I wouldn’t use them on a rail trail. I run all my tyres tubeless too. Only had one actual puncture in the conti’s in 2 years, but that is 100% road riding. …I’m interested to know which endurance bike are you riding? and what is the max tyre clearance? @@sanynava