Nice video--these things are really easy to install. Obviously you do not need to bury the wire. If you want to run it through the woods, just lay it on top of the ground and it will literally self bury in about a year (you should mark it some how in case you have a break). Additionally, the best and quickest way to make a slit in the soil is to use a lawn edger--works great. I recommend and electric one so you do not have to fool with the ethanol fuel unless you use your edger a lot. Nice job!!!
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Excellent video,, love your way of explaining,, clear, informative, and to the point..
Some dogs will learn it right away, some dogs won’t. I have a wire-haired/border terrier mix. All the research I have ever done says this breed is never to be trusted off a leash or confinement. I have also owned labs and I would suspect that breed to learn it and not need it always.
I have patches of grass in my backyard where I DO NOT want my dogs to go to. Can the wire be installed in a way that would prevent my dogs from going on the grass areas that are not connected with each other?
MrBoJangles look at about 3:48 of my video. The company gives you a surge protector. In the video it’s white and the first thing plugged in. Then, the black thing plugged into the surge protector is the power for the actual device.
Just easier on the back and quicker when you use an edger (doesn’t cut steel). Don’t have to realign like when using a shovel, paint ur line and go. We all have our own techniques not saying yours it’s wrong.
@@mikebell860 I would definitely invest in those kinds of tools if I did this for a living. Your way is way, way less time and effort, just not cheaper is all.
I want to do a whole perimeter setup (front, back, and both sides. If I placed the controller in the garage, how do you prevent the wires that leave the house heading towards the fence from preventing travel?
Just follow the video. Lay your perimeter first, then bury as you go. Just under the grass roots will be fine. Mine has worked perfectly since install a few years ago now.
@@JayferRattrap - Thanks for the response. I get that. What I was looking for was specifically when the wiring is leaving the garage, how to avoid creating a line that the dog can't cross. The answer is to twist the wires that causes them to cancel the signal out. Thanks anyway.
Christopher Fisher yep. So, I just twisted to the front of my garage because I wasn’t planning on having the dog in the front yard ever anyway. If you want to include the front yard, just keep twisting until you get as far out as you want your dog to go, then set up the perimeter from there.
You absolutely could. I just don't have one and am cheap by nature. Because you simply have to get just beneath the sod, I think an edger would work just great! Glad you liked the video.
Depends on how you set up the perimeter. Sounds like you may not have sufficiently twisted the wires together when you brought the perimeter back to the power unit to hook it up?
Hey! I'm really new to this stuff and how it all works. I got this kit and have a couple questions. First, why do you have to twist the wire? I saw it's to cancel out the signal, but why would you need to do that? Also, when I was reading the manual, it said that you had to bring the wire around the yard and then bring it around the yard a second time at least 5 feet apart. Did you do this? Maybe our kits are a little different, but let me know! Thanks!
Sharalyn Grulke you only need to double up wire (running wire twice 5 feet apart) if you are not doing a circle. The application I show basically makes a huge loop that the dog will run around inside of. You need to twist the wires so the signal is cancelled there. That means it won't go off if the dog runs in that area.
In the breeder's book, it says our dog is "never to be trusted not to run." So we use the fence every time. That said, she is very smart and it only took once before she knew what the collar means and where the boundaries are.
Are there different types of strengths of fences for different sized dogs? There is such a huge range in pricing out there. We don't have a lot of money at the moment, and are looking to rehome a large Chesapeake Bay / Lab mix. Thank you so much for this video~!!
ModelSupplies yes. There is one for large dogs which you should get. I have had the Petsafe since I put this video up and have had no problems except had to replace the collar once.
@@JayferRattrap Thank you so much! We have the Petsafe "Stubborn Dog". It's used and the collar has one broken off probe, but it still works =) We have had him for a week and love him madly~!! Thank you so so much for this video which really made it possible~! Hey, you're kind of like Santa Claus now haha Merry Christmas~!! x0x PS - I'm a 55 year old woman and installed it all by myself using your video~! Big thumbs up~!
ModelSupplies glad I could help. Please let me know if you need anything or have questions. I am always looking to add videos for people with questions.
I have a back yard that I want to invisible f3nce in. Can u bury the part of the single loop about 2 feet for the part I want the dog to cross? I'm trying to avoid running a double loop which takes a LOT of yard space from the dog
You need two meters if you only have a single wire which is pretty deep to bury the wire. If you don't have a double loop then often there is no way to have wires to twist.
so my house is in the middle of my property, the wire will go out of my double garage but how does the other end get back in...if you want your dog to be able to access the garage doors ?? do you put the wire up over the door and then back down the side and into garage to complete the loop...how high does the wire have to be to not effect the dog??
Please help me. I am confuse with the surge protector and transmitter, I tried it and it’s beeping but when i tried it on to my medium and small dog it doesn’t even bother them at all so i don’t know if i did it right.. i didn’t connect it to surge protector because im really confuse by it.
The surge protector just protects the part that is plugged into the wall. I would use it if I were you. If it works but doesn’t really affect your dog you might need to increase the strength of the zap.
I followed everything. Now my loop light is not lit up. I have premier pet. I was also waiting for the light in the colar if it’s going to be red or green so i could know if i need to change the battery but didn’t gave me any.
Wow they charge so much for something so simple. It’s must. I have a pit bull won’t hurt a fly but it’s a lot of traffic and ion won’t her to wonder off or get hit.
Do you realize how much work it takes to dig the hole and put the wire in it? I installed mine myself with about an acre of wire. DEFINITELY CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS. Lol
Joby, When I twist the wire where I want to cancel the signal out it doesn't cancel out. Could I be doing something wrong? I have tried this twice. The spot I need to cancel the signal out is about 35' long, and the first time it was twisted maybe once every foot and it didn't cancel the signal. So I untwisted it all the way back and twisted it 4-5 times per foot all the way back to the transmitter and it still did not cancel out the signal. Any advice you can provide is greatly appreciated
Yes you can. I got Lucy and ran it right in front of my attached garage and there is an expansion joint right there. So I took a weathertight calking and laid it in there.
Thanks for this. My dog is killing the neighbors chickens. I don't need it to make a full loop but run the length of the road in front of our house and turn down a driveway between his and my place but the property line and driveway is at least a quarter of a mile long. She has full access to all our property to run free. It's 20 plus acres . Will one of these make just a long L shape and not a circle? I've got to do something quickly or she could be shot from killing his animals.
+Phil Lowman they have pretty big systems though I would step up in wire size just because you want the integrity of the wire to hold up. Yes, you can make an L shape. Set the field pretty large as well so your dog is warned early.
I had never heard of an invisible fence until today, so I started looking for something that would describe it. Unfortunately, I must be too dumb, because I still don't understand what it's all about, how it works, and what is to be expected from such a system. I'll have to keep looking, because this video limited itself to showing how to install such a system. What you can expect from the system, it doesn't explain. A text article will probably do the job. After I learn what it's all about, I'll probably come back for more details. I just can't believe that a buried wire could shock anything. My guess is that the system is designed for family pets, not for animal invaders. The pet probably wears a gadget that will give him a shock when he passes over the electrified wire, right?
+Quabledistocficklepo it is a system that sends an electrical shock to a collar you out on a dog when it gets close to an area you do not want the dog to pass through. You can set how much shock the pet would receive as well as how much of a warning to give the animal before it shocks. A small wire sets up an electrical field that is meant to contain the animal.
Wow! that was fast. Thanks. I guess it's not for me. I started out by thinking that I would like to have turtles, frogs, and suchlike running loose around my yard. Then, I realized that the damned cats, or the raccoons or possums would probably get them. Then I saw something about invisible fences, and I thought that might be the answer. I guess the answer is that there is no way to keep small animals safe from predators.
+Quabledistocficklepo you have our sympathy! You may try a structure such as large cage or something. That is not a very free range solution however. Good luck. We hope Rattrap Productions can give you valuable do it yourself information at some point though. Have a great day!
+Ife Afolayan I'm not disagreeing with you. But, all I'm doing is showing people how to save big money by installing the fence themselves if that is their wish. Thanks for the comment.
Ive tried that already and my cats don't care. they've been killing my neighbors pets (birds rabbits etc)and i need to stop them. so this is my last resort to not getting them euthanised.
Awesome video, my kids never leave the yard.
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I wouldn’t put a collar on a kid, so I won’t do this to my dog. A leash or a real fence are more humane.
Nice video--these things are really easy to install. Obviously you do not need to bury the wire. If you want to run it through the woods, just lay it on top of the ground and it will literally self bury in about a year (you should mark it some how in case you have a break). Additionally, the best and quickest way to make a slit in the soil is to use a lawn edger--works great. I recommend and electric one so you do not have to fool with the ethanol fuel unless you use your edger a lot. Nice job!!!
Excellent video,, love your way of explaining,, clear, informative, and to the point..
Clear, concise, and easy to follow. Thank you!
Thank you so much!!! This should help my brother and son put this together great! 🤓🤓
I never comment but this guy did a superb job teaching, bravo Sir!
Extremely informative, You just bought a subscribe.
No problem. Thanks Joby...
For the ground wire, do you just cut some wire to connect the surge protector and transmitter?
Well explained. Thank you
Wow, this video is really well done. Nice job, what a big help!
good video. well explained and simple.
Thank You
Thank you
Great video
Thanks! Just had to fix mine and this was helpful.
Joby Sir, Quick question, if your doing a half circle can the wire use the same return path if it is not twisted, until you get back to the main unit.
+Eli Kirtz No you cannot use the same return path. Please explain your path a little more. I might be able to help.
Hi. I was wondering what kit you bought?
+Julia Darling PetSafe is the system we used for our property which is 1/2 acre
For how many time does you dog take to learn the safe area....or need to wear the collar forever? Thanks!
Some dogs will learn it right away, some dogs won’t. I have a wire-haired/border terrier mix. All the research I have ever done says this breed is never to be trusted off a leash or confinement. I have also owned labs and I would suspect that breed to learn it and not need it always.
awesome thanks
I have patches of grass in my backyard where I DO NOT want my dogs to go to. Can the wire be installed in a way that would prevent my dogs from going on the grass areas that are not connected with each other?
You could run a system that could do one area (say there was a tree that you wanted them to stay away from for example in the middle of your yard).
Do I need to buy a special surge protector for the wires? That part seems confusing to me. How do they connect ?
MrBoJangles look at about 3:48 of my video. The company gives you a surge protector. In the video it’s white and the first thing plugged in. Then, the black thing plugged into the surge protector is the power for the actual device.
we use an 4 inch steel edger run right down a line only time we use shovel is when we move rock, and then we use shovel to create the line
That’s great if you have that equipment. Shovel works just fine. I’m going though sod, not steel, right?
Just easier on the back and quicker when you use an edger (doesn’t cut steel). Don’t have to realign like when using a shovel, paint ur line and go. We all have our own techniques not saying yours it’s wrong.
@@mikebell860 I would definitely invest in those kinds of tools if I did this for a living. Your way is way, way less time and effort, just not cheaper is all.
thanks man! i bought a sit boo-boo from amazon... hopefully, install this weekend! ill let u know how it goes! this really helped!
How did you like the sit boo boo from amazon? Trying to decide which one to purchase.
I want to do a whole perimeter setup (front, back, and both sides. If I placed the controller in the garage, how do you prevent the wires that leave the house heading towards the fence from preventing travel?
Just follow the video. Lay your perimeter first, then bury as you go. Just under the grass roots will be fine. Mine has worked perfectly since install a few years ago now.
@@JayferRattrap - Thanks for the response. I get that. What I was looking for was specifically when the wiring is leaving the garage, how to avoid creating a line that the dog can't cross. The answer is to twist the wires that causes them to cancel the signal out. Thanks anyway.
Christopher Fisher yep. So, I just twisted to the front of my garage because I wasn’t planning on having the dog in the front yard ever anyway. If you want to include the front yard, just keep twisting until you get as far out as you want your dog to go, then set up the perimeter from there.
Hi, very, VERY helpful video! I have to ask though, why not just use a gas-powered edger instead of a spade?
You absolutely could. I just don't have one and am cheap by nature. Because you simply have to get just beneath the sod, I think an edger would work just great! Glad you liked the video.
@@JayferRattrap HAHA! Thanks for getting back to me. Great stuff!
Yeah I got one a little different and it’s just shocking when ever it wants in the perimeter any idea what’s wrong yard I’m doing it in isn’t that big
Depends on how you set up the perimeter. Sounds like you may not have sufficiently twisted the wires together when you brought the perimeter back to the power unit to hook it up?
What kind of surge protector did you use?
Razberry monstah the kit I purchased included one.
Hey! I'm really new to this stuff and how it all works. I got this kit and have a couple questions. First, why do you have to twist the wire? I saw it's to cancel out the signal, but why would you need to do that? Also, when I was reading the manual, it said that you had to bring the wire around the yard and then bring it around the yard a second time at least 5 feet apart. Did you do this? Maybe our kits are a little different, but let me know! Thanks!
Sharalyn Grulke you only need to double up wire (running wire twice 5 feet apart) if you are not doing a circle. The application I show basically makes a huge loop that the dog will run around inside of. You need to twist the wires so the signal is cancelled there. That means it won't go off if the dog runs in that area.
Joby F. Randrup great! Thank you so much! I just set it up and this definitely helped!
Nice Man Bun
How long did it take you to train your dogs? I'm considering getting one but my dogs are too rock heads. But I love them.
In the breeder's book, it says our dog is "never to be trusted not to run." So we use the fence every time. That said, she is very smart and it only took once before she knew what the collar means and where the boundaries are.
Are there different types of strengths of fences for different sized dogs? There is such a huge range in pricing out there. We don't have a lot of money at the moment, and are looking to rehome a large Chesapeake Bay / Lab mix. Thank you so much for this video~!!
ModelSupplies yes. There is one for large dogs which you should get. I have had the Petsafe since I put this video up and have had no problems except had to replace the collar once.
@@JayferRattrap Thank you so much! We have the Petsafe "Stubborn Dog". It's used and the collar has one broken off probe, but it still works =) We have had him for a week and love him madly~!! Thank you so so much for this video which really made it possible~! Hey, you're kind of like Santa Claus now haha Merry Christmas~!! x0x
PS - I'm a 55 year old woman and installed it all by myself using your video~! Big thumbs up~!
ModelSupplies glad I could help. Please let me know if you need anything or have questions. I am always looking to add videos for people with questions.
Very nice
Hows that wire do during the winter i live in iowa and ut can it far below 0 sometimes
It’s been in the ground here in Minnesota ever since I did the video. Never had to repair. Working great.
Thanks for doing this I learned alot, but question, did I see a fence?
Yes you did. However, I have a couple of gates that the dog could sneak under.
Did you have to run a ground pole when setting up the wire?
No
I have a back yard that I want to invisible f3nce in. Can u bury the part of the single loop about 2 feet for the part I want the dog to cross? I'm trying to avoid running a double loop which takes a LOT of yard space from the dog
Any time you want part of the fence inactivated, you need to twist the wires together like I show.
You need two meters if you only have a single wire which is pretty deep to bury the wire. If you don't have a double loop then often there is no way to have wires to twist.
so my house is in the middle of my property, the wire will go out of my double garage but how does the other end get back in...if you want your dog to be able to access the garage doors ?? do you put the wire up over the door and then back down the side and into garage to complete the loop...how high does the wire have to be to not effect the dog??
Tom Mamay look at 3:23 in our video. When you twist the wire together, the signal is cancelled out which means it will not shock the dog at that spot.
Yes if you only have one wire then run it two meters high so the fm signal won't get to the dogs collar.
what do these cost for the systems and do they include the wire
+Justin Hazen its costs about $350 for the system including wire. If you want someone to install it, you can add another $1,000.
I think its time I do this.
Please help me. I am confuse with the surge protector and transmitter, I tried it and it’s beeping but when i tried it on to my medium and small dog it doesn’t even bother them at all so i don’t know if i did it right.. i didn’t connect it to surge protector because im really confuse by it.
The surge protector just protects the part that is plugged into the wall. I would use it if I were you. If it works but doesn’t really affect your dog you might need to increase the strength of the zap.
I followed everything. Now my loop light is not lit up. I have premier pet. I was also waiting for the light in the colar if it’s going to be red or green so i could know if i need to change the battery but didn’t gave me any.
Which invisible dog fence were you using?
Pet safe.
Wow they charge so much for something so simple. It’s must. I have a pit bull won’t hurt a fly but it’s a lot of traffic and ion won’t her to wonder off or get hit.
Do you realize how much work it takes to dig the hole and put the wire in it? I installed mine myself with about an acre of wire. DEFINITELY CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS. Lol
hi just wondering y do you have to twist it
When you twist it, it cancels the signal at that spot. If it didn't cancel at that sport, you would have live signal going all the way to the box.
Joby,
When I twist the wire where I want to cancel the signal out it doesn't cancel out. Could I be doing something wrong? I have tried this twice. The spot I need to cancel the signal out is about 35' long, and the first time it was twisted maybe once every foot and it didn't cancel the signal. So I untwisted it all the way back and twisted it 4-5 times per foot all the way back to the transmitter and it still did not cancel out the signal. Any advice you can provide is greatly appreciated
I twisted it much more than that. It works best to have someone help toward the end but I twist two or three times per inch.
Is 1” - 3” adequate for Minnesota winters?
ltmesq I’ve had mine up and running for two years now, including two winters. No problems at all.
Joby F. Randrup good to know! And thanks for the quick response
Can I cut into black top and bury it with cold patch?
Yes you can. I got Lucy and ran it right in front of my attached garage and there is an expansion joint right there. So I took a weathertight calking and laid it in there.
Did you use the extra wire from another PetSafe wire kit or just any wire from a hardware store?
Go to a hardware store and get solid core 18 gauge wire. It's a little thicker so a little more durable.
I own a husky. Have any idea? Hehe
My twisted wires are still send a signal and set off a collar. Anyone have this problem?? How to fix it?
My only guess is you didn't twist them enough.
Btw why do you twist the cables?
It cancels the signal, making it safe for the animal there.
Thanks for this. My dog is killing the neighbors chickens. I don't need it to make a full loop but run the length of the road in front of our house and turn down a driveway between his and my place but the property line and driveway is at least a quarter of a mile long. She has full access to all our property to run free. It's 20 plus acres . Will one of these make just a long L shape and not a circle? I've got to do something quickly or she could be shot from killing his animals.
+Phil Lowman they have pretty big systems though I would step up in wire size just because you want the integrity of the wire to hold up. Yes, you can make an L shape. Set the field pretty large as well so your dog is warned early.
just loop it around your entire property, or else he will just go around it.
You can do an L but when you loop it back make sure the parallel lines are at least 5 feet apart or it will interfere with itself
Phil Lowman no you need to make a complete loop doesn't matter the shape but you need a complete loop for continuity or it won't work
It would be great if you explained "why"! Ie Why twist the wire? Why does it need a twist every so many inches/ feet?
I couldn’t tell you the science behind it but, for some reason, it cancels out the signal.
It is like two waves meeting and cancelling each other out. Each wire sends out an am (or in the good systems an FM) signal.
Who else flinched when ya heard the fly on 7:26😂
How can u see it
You can’t because it’s buried under the sod. That’s the point.
Wow. What a blunder on her part. lol. You're much better. lmao.
You look great btw its not too much. It was just the angle.
Wait the transmitter was black at the beginning and now its white lol
I had never heard of an invisible fence until today, so I started looking for something that would describe it. Unfortunately, I must be too dumb, because I still don't understand what it's all about, how it works, and what is to be expected from such a system. I'll have to keep looking, because this video limited itself to showing how to install such a system. What you can expect from the system, it doesn't explain. A text article will probably do the job. After I learn what it's all about, I'll probably come back for more details. I just can't believe that a buried wire could shock anything. My guess is that the system is designed for family pets, not for animal invaders. The pet probably wears a gadget that will give him a shock when he passes over the electrified wire, right?
+Quabledistocficklepo it is a system that sends an electrical shock to a collar you out on a dog when it gets close to an area you do not want the dog to pass through. You can set how much shock the pet would receive as well as how much of a warning to give the animal before it shocks. A small wire sets up an electrical field that is meant to contain the animal.
Wow! that was fast. Thanks. I guess it's not for me. I started out by thinking that I would like to have turtles, frogs, and suchlike running loose around my yard. Then, I realized that the damned cats, or the raccoons or possums would probably get them. Then I saw something about invisible fences, and I thought that might be the answer. I guess the answer is that there is no way to keep small animals safe from predators.
+Quabledistocficklepo you have our sympathy! You may try a structure such as large cage or something. That is not a very free range solution however. Good luck. We hope Rattrap Productions can give you valuable do it yourself information at some point though. Have a great day!
Why did you make it so complicated lol
looks like mess of wires!
Well that’s why you have to be organized Red!
Real fences and positive training methods, in which dogs are rewarded for good behavior, are kinder and more effective.
+Ife Afolayan I'm not disagreeing with you. But, all I'm doing is showing people how to save big money by installing the fence themselves if that is their wish. Thanks for the comment.
Ive tried that already and my cats don't care. they've been killing my neighbors pets (birds rabbits etc)and i need to stop them. so this is my last resort to not getting them euthanised.
And when that doesnt work? just return the dog like a toy or what?
Macie Fergal till they grind off there enamel on the teeth chewing on a real fence trying to get out.
@@kurochan61try keeping your cats indoors and if that doesn't work then just give them to different owners. Don't euthanize them.