The bird chirping SFXs are superfluous and unnecessary. They don't add to the story. They compete with the other SFX and voice-over in the context of this video. I appreciate the editor wanting to add more depth. But it gets lost with the tank SFX and voice.
@@armjack420I think a lot of Panther models had MG34/42 mounted aside the main cannon. You could also have a MG crew set up nearby the turret/bunker and take turns manning it. If anyone tried to assault the bunker, the MG team could spot and engage them from another angle while the attackers are focused on the bunker. This is just my overactive imagination and to my knowledge, not based on any factual events.
The idea of using tank guns as turrets is actually ingenious. It's simple, easy, less time consuming to setup and it doesn't require you to have a separate facility to manufacture the parts needed. It saves money, time, manpower and makes for more efficient logistics.
This video more addresses the purpose and use of panther turret bunkers and less the life inside one of these. Sure there are some beds that can fold up, there's a stove, it's probably cramped though there's some storage space and an escape way. You get into combat like you're suppose to. But what of the actual life inside one of these things? What shifts do the soldiers take, do they sit and guard an area inside the bunker or is there an outside area they chill at with other crews until the enemy is spotted and then run to their bunker? What's the food and water situation? How do they communicate to those outside of the bunker, whether directly outside or distant? Toilets? From morning to night, what do they do?
In the Battle of berlin, tanks that ran out of fuel were simply placed in the middle of an intersection and rubble piled up around it, making it an island of rubble and debris with a turret on top.
The dot at the end of "Ausf." indicates that this is an abbreviation. In verbal communication the word is spoken completely: "Ausführung" (Roughly "implementation", "model" or a bit more remote "variant")
_As a small addition. "Ausf." is not a spoken German word. It is the abbreviation for the German word "Ausführung" and in this context means something like model or version._ _Example:_ German: Panther Turm Ausführung D English: Panther Model D Turret
They also did this with battleship main guns. Many like these were installed on the Atlantic wall in Norway. These were quite large and many levels deep in the mountain, but also quite powerful and long reaching.
Little correction , no Panther had 80mm side armour . 60mm was max with the new Schmalturm . And we in Austria build these bunkers along the Danube river in the I believe 1960's , with Centurion turrets . You can still find them today in the woods .
Couple corrections here: 1. Sherman’s were not obsolete as revisionist history makes them out to be. They were less powerful, but more than capable to penetrate the armor of a Tiger or even Panther V by 1944. it does ultimately depend on the variant though. The early Sherman’s were excellent in North Africa, but were very much outclassed by the Tigers at this time. Thankfully very few Tigers were in Africa or the western front in general. 2. The Allied Air Force was legit superior, however, they very seldom ever hit tanks due to the small size (compared to the fast speed the planes approach in). Instead, the Allied air forces focused more heavily on wiping out reinforcing tanks still on the railway or hampering German logistics entirely. The P-47 was amazing with this! The Mosquitoes were also excellent in the African theatre.
Correction on #2: You meant the RAF... The Canadian and US Air Force actually employed Catalina planes and various liaison aircraft to serve as antitank gunships, with the notable example used by Bazooka Charlie.
@@tedhubertcrusio372 I don't get what anything you just said has to do with only the RAF. They mentioned allies collectively and included both a British and US aircraft as an example. The P-47 was a US built aircraft with ground-attack capability that saw significant use in the European theater. The Catalina was a US built seaplane with reconnaissance and anti-submarine capabilities. It wasn't used to destroy tanks.
@@aspookyscaryskeleton1474 Mosquitos were primarily fast-bombers so they're sort of irrelevant. It'd be like bringing up B-17s in a discussion about the Battle for London, only relevance coming from the fact they are planes
Plus, encounters with the German heavy tanks were exceptionally rare, as the Germans had few and kept them mostly on the Eastern front. Plus, we cranked out so many Shermans the odds were stacked in our favor. Belton Cooper managed to ruin the reputation of the Sherman by telling half-truths, spreading rumors, and straight up making things up in his book.
Back in the 90s I met an old German Tanker in Canada. I asked him how he survived, and he replied that he was the Driver for an Ostwall Panther Turm - now I know ;)
I love how simplehistory actually makes sponsors interesting, instead of screaming into the mic and overhyping the site, he just casually says things about the site and also slips in a few jokes, first time i actually watched a sponsor.
I knew simplehistory would blow up it's come a long way and still getting more subscribers you will get there because a lot of people love watching videos of old and new history of war and I love this stuff keep it coming
interestingly there seems to be an opportunity that was overlooked: the thickness of a tanks armour was limited by weight constraints, which in turn come from the mobility requirements of a tank a stationary tank turret is not mobile, the weight rests on an immobile under-construction. it would have been possible to up-armour such turrets. a lot.
@@ASlickNamedPimpbackNot really, by this stage production was in shambles and destroyed tanks were everywhere, it would not have been hard to cut out armor from destroyed tanks and put it on the turret via welding or slotting.
@@NIGHTDREADED if you have a destroyed tank, chances are it was destroyed by the someone. By this stage in the war, Germany was in full backpedal, so that someone would already be in their way of getting to the tank.
May 18, 2024 - Simple History has found an interesting subject and done a good job discussing it. However, I have to compliment them on the "genius" of using their animation style in their commercial, which provided a smooth transition from their content to their ad and back. Well played. 👌I actually enjoyed the ad.👍😊
175 rounds!?! wild if true that's insane, the loader'd break both arms before spending it all, and a stationary target tends to not stay a target for long
I hate the way people are putting ads in the middle of their videos why not the beginning and what happened to paying for RUclips premium add free content
But yeah they could do it and the beginning or at the end....Mrballen is one of my favorite toutubers but it's aggravating getting into the middle of a good story then stop to go on a 2 minute ad lol
The sponsor will have paid a premium fee to place the ad in the middle. That is good though cause it supports the video maker more, meaning they can afford to put more effort into the video
Fixed installations might make sense if they had interlocking fields of fire and no way for the enemy to outflank or overrun (including with airborne troops) but that is RARELY IF EVER the case.
Wonderful animations! I was sceptical when I clicked the link but the information was exceeded my expectations! (would have loved some references though) I do think you missed out by not pointing out the pre ww1 Fahrpanzer mobile armoured turrets which were likely the inspiration for using tank turrets this way.
Speaking of 75mm. There was a video here on You Tube that stated US soldiers preferred the 75 over larger guns. Tests showed that for some reason 75s created more shrapnel that other size guns. It went on to state that on the Western front the allies didn't deal with near the volume of tanks that the Soviets encountered but had to deal with more foot soldiers. The wide spread of the 75 shrapnel helped in that.
Simple History clearly ordered those Vomlets as a terror attack on Oversimplified's Birthday by swapping all of the chili mac, beef stew and buffalo chicken with this crime against humanity. Don't worry, he was generous enough to leave some "milk" from Mongolia.
I am trying to remember if I have seen these turrets in any movie... Maybe I've just not noticed... Quite a sophisticated defense strategy. Any video on if there are still any of those turrets that were kept in place for Tourism/Museum/Historical purposes in Europe ? ( I will search ) PS: I really like in these videos; the time and effort put into the animations and, of course, as well as the time put into the research etc.. Good work.
As far as I know those type of turrets were typically used to slow down enemy advancement and got evacuated after 5-6 shots since they becomes too vulnerable when its position got discovered while normal artillery could just relocate itself on the battlefield.
It wasn't so much the heat that needed to be vented. The exhaust gasses produced by the burning propellant were oxygen displacing as well as highly irritating.
Ostwallturm translates to East Wall Turret, not Tower. Turm means both Turret and Tower, yet in this context it translates to turret, same as in tank turret. In addition, it is clear from looks that its not a tower, which requires considerable height.
They show pictures of one of these turrets in Berlin streets during the final battle. It has loads of spent tank rounds around it. I believe it fired all its ammunition. Must have been extremely difficult to knock this one out.
@@Fighter4Street If I am not mistaken the Berlin Flak towers were not taken out. They continued firing even after the positions around them were overrun and ultimately surrendered after all ammo was spent. The Soviets tried to demolish them with explosives after the war and failed because they were too masssive. That's pretty crazy.
We had a defensive line of tank turret sunk into the ground, Italy at yugoslavian border at least until end '80s, when I was into the army. Fanteria D'Arresto took care of It. I don't know if It Is still there and still operative.
The turret armor is kind of useless (except the front) because once they can hit the rear turret then you already lose. It's faster and cheaper to use those metals to build more field cannon with wheels and front armor.
The turrets were used for defensive bunkers and taken off inoperable tanks not manufactured for this purpose and are not not field cannons first of all. They also had field cannons in the form of the 88mm
Well it means that the turret is resistant to infantry flaking efforts because all directions are bulletproof. Obviously interms of resource efficiency field cannons are better but these definitely had a role.
The absolute first time I’ve seen this as a primary topic! Great job. The great thing about armored vehicles is their mobility. Fire. Scoot. Set up again. Fire. These permanent turrets had the element of surprise the first shot. The Panther gun was a very good tank killer. Against everything else it was mediocre.
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i learned something new. i thought they only made these when the war was as good as lost. in the defence of Berlin. Immobilised pantheres were dragged to strategic pich points and berried there to only let the turret stick out. some locations were even purpose build to house only the turret...
For the second part of Your question I can answer being into italian army service mid '80s. We had a zone very close to yugoslavian border and we put tank turrets sunk in the ground . They were under control of the Fanteria D'Arresto, First line defensive system. We at Fanteria Meccanizzata were a very little behind with our M113 Vtc armoured troops transport light tanks. And in the same zones were parachute troups. Hope It helps
german here the Ausf. A and Ausf. D stands for Ausführung - meaning version A or Version D. the "Ausf." would just be used as a shortform in written form.
First time I'd ever heard of tank turrets used for fixed defensive position was in Tom Clancy's Bear and Dragon, where the Russians used WW2 heavy tank turrets for border security with China.
Always wondered why, with the mass limitations of the chassis suspension no longer there, these turrets weren't heavily uparmored once emplaced. Why just leave them with the regular armor.
During desert storm, the Iraqi forces entrenched their tanks to use them as defensive positions (similar to the video, tho by half burying some of their tanks) and it did NOT go well for them. They became sitting ducks to a modern military. Plus, i think with things like drone warfare, the concept of a large stationary defensive box actually can backfire if they arent well enough protected by other forces. See previous Desert Storm : their tanks werent all that well protected even in the half burried 'tank foxholes' even tho the idea in concept was sound. (tho i guess you can argue that not only were their tanks, tactics, but just everything overall was outdated for them so the idea itself could still be practical if done right.) idk if this concept has been used at all in any current modern ongoing wars.
Imagine being safe in the living area and the only way out is through the turret top hatch and the turret gets destroyed. You will probably die alone and forgotten of starvation, suffocation or by your own hand
Well, you're a much smaller target in a Panther Turret. Though the lack of mobility makes them vulnerable to infantry with explosives that they can plant or toss onto the turret.
I'm thinking a Similar idea of a military defensive Turret line where every other turret has a tank gun, or turret with Artillery gun on Ukraines Eastern flank. It might be Helpful against Russia. They use Radios to keep in touch, and if an Artillery shot is More needed than a tank shot one, then one would be in place to be Called upon. Ukraine has a number of old Soviet era stocks to pull from to use. Be similar to the maginot line, but you beef it by also using Mines, and a Personnel Trench, movable Artillery, dragons teeth, and concertina wire.
sadly no, a stationary target is a dead traget in modern warfare with drones and precision strike ammunition and even lacking that the russians have no problem throwing 100+ dumb shells at a target only 1 has to hit.
Well, France wasn't the only country that was using tanks such as Renault light tanks. Also Yugoslavia used these tanks as well. Maybe some of these Yugoslav tanks, were captured by Germans. Of course this is just a guessing (but who am I to judge that). But I do know when Germany occupied Yugoslavia in WWII, they captured Yugoslav plane such as Icarus IK-3 Rogožarski. I have also heard that there were the flak turrets as well. They were used as an anti-aircraft defense against bombings. Also I have heard that they were used as a shelters where civilians took shelter when there were sounded air raid siren. They were also made out of concrete, and by external appearance, they looked like medieval castles.
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Make a King Tiger cross section
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The bird chirping SFXs are superfluous and unnecessary. They don't add to the story. They compete with the other SFX and voice-over in the context of this video. I appreciate the editor wanting to add more depth. But it gets lost with the tank SFX and voice.
Imagine chilling with the homies in a panther turret bunker. Must have been hella chill
Maybe even the "cat's meow?"
But the constant fear of being flanked must have been crazy
@@armjack420I think a lot of Panther models had MG34/42 mounted aside the main cannon. You could also have a MG crew set up nearby the turret/bunker and take turns manning it. If anyone tried to assault the bunker, the MG team could spot and engage them from another angle while the attackers are focused on the bunker. This is just my overactive imagination and to my knowledge, not based on any factual events.
Fr, the one in the thumbnail and first clip seems comfy
I think fighting as a soldier in world war 2 is the very opposite of chill
The idea of using tank guns as turrets is actually ingenious.
It's simple, easy, less time consuming to setup and it doesn't require you to have a separate facility to manufacture the parts needed.
It saves money, time, manpower and makes for more efficient logistics.
Id say that less time consuming is debatable, youve gotta build a giant hole, walls around it and more
@@Alguien644 They had to build the bunkers anyway, this was just deciding what armament to put on them
Not only that, but also the turret made a smaller target for other tanks.
They actually did the same thing with turrets from the Gneisenau in Norway. Same concept on steroids.
@@Alguien644 It's for defense. If you are building defenses, you have the time to build defense.
The driver quit 💀
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Don't cry bro. 🙌 ☕
Yes that. But I don't think drivers will get that back turret
Nah he j'd out
So did the radio operator
XD 😂
Simple History:
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it's pretty genius there's ads inside the video
Imo this became one of the most badass RUclips ads ever
@@deathhulk88haven't saw any ads here since last year bc I'm using YT Revanced. any sponsor part of the video will get skipped too with ease 😂
Just use youtube revanced, blocks all ads and sponsored segments automatically
That's why they need adverts, for the F-35
When you want to be in a tank but you are ordered by your command for defense:
Lol
@@BaguetteSolider Insightful reply. It’s the most RUclips comment ever.
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“Commander, I want to be assigned a Tank”
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This video more addresses the purpose and use of panther turret bunkers and less the life inside one of these.
Sure there are some beds that can fold up, there's a stove, it's probably cramped though there's some storage space and an escape way. You get into combat like you're suppose to.
But what of the actual life inside one of these things? What shifts do the soldiers take, do they sit and guard an area inside the bunker or is there an outside area they chill at with other crews until the enemy is spotted and then run to their bunker? What's the food and water situation? How do they communicate to those outside of the bunker, whether directly outside or distant? Toilets? From morning to night, what do they do?
yes and the ad transition was jarring
A soldier's routine consists large of BOREDOM; broken up by brief periods of sheer TERROR.
I would suspect the heater is only used during the night to avoid detection from smoke
In the Battle of berlin, tanks that ran out of fuel were simply placed in the middle of an intersection and rubble piled up around it, making it an island of rubble and debris with a turret on top.
The dot at the end of "Ausf." indicates that this is an abbreviation. In verbal communication the word is spoken completely: "Ausführung" (Roughly "implementation", "model" or a bit more remote "variant")
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_As a small addition. "Ausf." is not a spoken German word. It is the abbreviation for the German word "Ausführung" and in this context means something like model or version._
_Example:_
German: Panther Turm Ausführung D
English: Panther Model D Turret
They also did this with battleship main guns.
Many like these were installed on the Atlantic wall in Norway.
These were quite large and many levels deep in the mountain, but also quite powerful and long reaching.
Hey simple history can you do a cross section of the ratte tank ?
Yah but simple history made a video about the ratte tank
Yes, but there are a few pieces here, such as a lab,a room that is held two motorbikes, and, of course , barracks
Oh and the fuhrer bunker. I'd really like to see a video about its design.
Little correction , no Panther had 80mm side armour . 60mm was max with the new Schmalturm .
And we in Austria build these bunkers along the Danube river in the I believe 1960's , with Centurion turrets . You can still find them today in the woods .
can you go inside?
@@obi-wlankenobi They are locked , probably need some tools to get in . 😅
Couple corrections here:
1. Sherman’s were not obsolete as revisionist history makes them out to be. They were less powerful, but more than capable to penetrate the armor of a Tiger or even Panther V by 1944. it does ultimately depend on the variant though. The early Sherman’s were excellent in North Africa, but were very much outclassed by the Tigers at this time. Thankfully very few Tigers were in Africa or the western front in general.
2. The Allied Air Force was legit superior, however, they very seldom ever hit tanks due to the small size (compared to the fast speed the planes approach in). Instead, the Allied air forces focused more heavily on wiping out reinforcing tanks still on the railway or hampering German logistics entirely. The P-47 was amazing with this! The Mosquitoes were also excellent in the African theatre.
Correction on #2:
You meant the RAF...
The Canadian and US Air Force actually employed Catalina planes and various liaison aircraft to serve as antitank gunships, with the notable example used by Bazooka Charlie.
@@tedhubertcrusio372 I don't get what anything you just said has to do with only the RAF. They mentioned allies collectively and included both a British and US aircraft as an example.
The P-47 was a US built aircraft with ground-attack capability that saw significant use in the European theater. The Catalina was a US built seaplane with reconnaissance and anti-submarine capabilities. It wasn't used to destroy tanks.
@@aspookyscaryskeleton1474 Mosquitos were primarily fast-bombers so they're sort of irrelevant. It'd be like bringing up B-17s in a discussion about the Battle for London, only relevance coming from the fact they are planes
@GlobnarTheGreen sources?
Plus, encounters with the German heavy tanks were exceptionally rare, as the Germans had few and kept them mostly on the Eastern front. Plus, we cranked out so many Shermans the odds were stacked in our favor.
Belton Cooper managed to ruin the reputation of the Sherman by telling half-truths, spreading rumors, and straight up making things up in his book.
Back in the 90s I met an old German Tanker in Canada. I asked him how he survived, and he replied that he was the Driver for an Ostwall Panther Turm - now I know ;)
I love how simplehistory actually makes sponsors interesting, instead of screaming into the mic and overhyping the site, he just casually says things about the site and also slips in a few jokes, first time i actually watched a sponsor.
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Seems like a powerful and protected space on one hand and incredibly vulnerable on the other!
I knew simplehistory would blow up it's come a long way and still getting more subscribers you will get there because a lot of people love watching videos of old and new history of war and I love this stuff keep it coming
interestingly there seems to be an opportunity that was overlooked:
the thickness of a tanks armour was limited by weight constraints, which in turn come from the mobility requirements of a tank
a stationary tank turret is not mobile, the weight rests on an immobile under-construction.
it would have been possible to up-armour such turrets. a lot.
that sort of defeats the point then
@@ASlickNamedPimpback you could still build them quickly, and add on armour plates later, when you have them.
@@ulrichkalber9039 precious metal and time that could have been put somewhere else
@@ASlickNamedPimpbackNot really, by this stage production was in shambles and destroyed tanks were everywhere, it would not have been hard to cut out armor from destroyed tanks and put it on the turret via welding or slotting.
@@NIGHTDREADED if you have a destroyed tank, chances are it was destroyed by the someone. By this stage in the war, Germany was in full backpedal, so that someone would already be in their way of getting to the tank.
Well done. Very informative . Cheers 😎🥃
Are we just gonna ignore this man pronouncing one of the hardest languages in the world like he says it every morning?
Just wanted to say, at 3:45 with the mesh over the barrel being gone after it fired is a nice touch
May 18, 2024 - Simple History has found an interesting subject and done a good job discussing it. However, I have to compliment them on the "genius" of using their animation style in their commercial, which provided a smooth transition from their content to their ad and back. Well played. 👌I actually enjoyed the ad.👍😊
I like how at 2:21 the house heavily resembles the one in family guy
Lol
175 rounds!?! wild if true
that's insane, the loader'd break both arms before spending it all, and a stationary target tends to not stay a target for long
For some reason I always feel like things like this with 'living quarters' would be so cozy 😊
I love the idea of giving a destroyed tank a second life as a sentry
1:58 The Panther TUAH
Cross section is my favorite series on here tbh
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Thank you for all the great videos
I hate the way people are putting ads in the middle of their videos why not the beginning and what happened to paying for RUclips premium add free content
I understand where your coming from but ads is probably how he makes half his money as to where youtube makes money selling premium
But yeah they could do it and the beginning or at the end....Mrballen is one of my favorite toutubers but it's aggravating getting into the middle of a good story then stop to go on a 2 minute ad lol
@@jarreddobbs6800remember when simple history was paywalling animated gore?
The sponsor will have paid a premium fee to place the ad in the middle. That is good though cause it supports the video maker more, meaning they can afford to put more effort into the video
it is justified. esp for our goat simple history
Fixed installations might make sense if they had interlocking fields of fire and no way for the enemy to outflank or overrun (including with airborne troops) but that is RARELY IF EVER the case.
It was a desperate move when modern tanks, or clever reuse of obsolete ones, that's about it
Yeah, static defenses of all kinds are in fact 100% ineffective because no defensive line can circumfere the whole earth.
@@Toenism The static defences used by Ukraine and Russia seem to be working quite well.
@@mikebikekite1 Sorry it was meant as a sarcastic comment towards Scoutsniper3124
Wonderful animations! I was sceptical when I clicked the link but the information was exceeded my expectations! (would have loved some references though) I do think you missed out by not pointing out the pre ww1 Fahrpanzer mobile armoured turrets which were likely the inspiration for using tank turrets this way.
Excellent video! Thank you!
Speaking of 75mm. There was a video here on You Tube that stated US soldiers preferred the 75 over larger guns.
Tests showed that for some reason 75s created more shrapnel that other size guns.
It went on to state that on the Western front the allies didn't deal with near the volume of tanks that the Soviets encountered but had to deal with more foot soldiers.
The wide spread of the 75 shrapnel helped in that.
This is sadly entierly made up by people on Reddit.
Thanks for all the content. Truly good stuff ❤
This is interesting stuff!
I'm surprised this isn't depicted in movies.
Holy wow massive upgrade to your content quality. Great show!!
Simple History clearly ordered those Vomlets as a terror attack on Oversimplified's Birthday by swapping all of the chili mac, beef stew and buffalo chicken with this crime against humanity. Don't worry, he was generous enough to leave some "milk" from Mongolia.
They should have welded extra armor onto the turret since weight didn't matter for mobility
Love the cross-section videos🔥
I am trying to remember if I have seen these turrets in any movie... Maybe I've just not noticed...
Quite a sophisticated defense strategy. Any video on if there are still any of those turrets that were kept in place for Tourism/Museum/Historical purposes in Europe ? ( I will search )
PS: I really like in these videos; the time and effort put into the animations and, of course, as well as the time put into the research etc.. Good work.
love the cross section vids
As far as I know those type of turrets were typically used to slow down enemy advancement and got evacuated after 5-6 shots since they becomes too vulnerable when its position got discovered while normal artillery could just relocate itself on the battlefield.
2:20
Thanks Simple History.
Ive Been Having The Same Problem With The Guy In The Video, They Always Send Me Vomit MRES To My Home.
vomlet lol. its a horrible cheese veggie omelette MRE.
It wasn't so much the heat that needed to be vented. The exhaust gasses produced by the burning propellant were oxygen displacing as well as highly irritating.
When you need subtitels to understand the german names, as a german
Sorry that I wasn't able to perfectly speak German for you.
Subtitles
@@ChrisKane-The first variant was indeed very hard to understand, that being said 2 and 3 was fine and I enjoyed the accent. 😊
You probably speak better English than most of us natives... 😂
The compressed air wasn't to vent heat after firing, it was to displace explosive gasses.
Awesome content!
6:56 saving private ryan moment 😂
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Parker get down!!!!!
Ostwallturm translates to East Wall Turret, not Tower. Turm means both Turret and Tower, yet in this context it translates to turret, same as in tank turret. In addition, it is clear from looks that its not a tower, which requires considerable height.
This and with Flank towers can give giant headaches to the allies.
They show pictures of one of these turrets in Berlin streets during the final battle. It has loads of spent tank rounds around it. I believe it fired all its ammunition. Must have been extremely difficult to knock this one out.
@@Fighter4Street If I am not mistaken the Berlin Flak towers were not taken out. They continued firing even after the positions around them were overrun and ultimately surrendered after all ammo was spent. The Soviets tried to demolish them with explosives after the war and failed because they were too masssive. That's pretty crazy.
Real ones will know that this wasn’t the first video about tank turrets mounted in the ground. 🔥🔥
Keep the videos going I like them❤
"Turm" translates to "turret" when referring to tanks. For castles it does translate to "tower".
We had a defensive line of tank turret sunk into the ground, Italy at yugoslavian border at least until end '80s, when I was into the army. Fanteria D'Arresto took care of It.
I don't know if It Is still there and still operative.
Best ad I've ever seen!
Panther Bunker : for those who never passed the driver license for the tanks
The turret armor is kind of useless (except the front) because once they can hit the rear turret then you already lose. It's faster and cheaper to use those metals to build more field cannon with wheels and front armor.
The turrets were used for defensive bunkers and taken off inoperable tanks not manufactured for this purpose and are not not field cannons first of all. They also had field cannons in the form of the 88mm
Well it means that the turret is resistant to infantry flaking efforts because all directions are bulletproof. Obviously interms of resource efficiency field cannons are better but these definitely had a role.
6:55 that scene from Saving Private Ryan
It should be noted that the base M4 Sherman was a 75mm gun. Later variants were upgraded with the 76mm.
The absolute first time I’ve seen this as a primary topic! Great job.
The great thing about armored vehicles is their mobility. Fire. Scoot. Set up again. Fire.
These permanent turrets had the element of surprise the first shot.
The Panther gun was a very good tank killer. Against everything else it was mediocre.
pretty sure it would kill a guy too if u hit him
FYI: "Ausf." is short for "Ausführung" which just means "variant"
Winston Churchill: I was saving the planet from an Axis of Darkness, while you were back home opening National Parks! Yes!
Theodore Roosevelt: You should be ashamed of your military honor!
Could you do a video like the panther one you did but a king tiger?
Stationary defenses like this only work if you have air dominance over the region or really good air defense batteries close by.
thanks for the tips
time for a rematch in Comand and Conquer Generals Zero Hour
6:55 reminded me a certain movie scene
i learned something new. i thought they only made these when the war was as good as lost. in the defence of Berlin.
Immobilised pantheres were dragged to strategic pich points and berried there to only let the turret stick out. some locations were even purpose build to house only the turret...
The driver so done with his job💀
5:39 if the japanese had this type of stationary turret, there would be no escape hatch
They would be welded inside
Now imagine setting up a bunker with those supposed super tanks and crazy tank designs.
Would there be communication links and an overall commander when there are multiple turret bunkers? What about supporting infantry?
For the second part of Your question I can answer being into italian army service mid '80s.
We had a zone very close to yugoslavian border and we put tank turrets sunk in the ground .
They were under control of the Fanteria D'Arresto, First line defensive system.
We at Fanteria Meccanizzata were a very little behind with our M113 Vtc armoured troops transport light tanks. And in the same zones were parachute troups.
Hope It helps
@@littlebritain64 thank you for that.
german here the Ausf. A and Ausf. D stands for Ausführung - meaning version A or Version D. the "Ausf." would just be used as a shortform in written form.
First time I'd ever heard of tank turrets used for fixed defensive position was in Tom Clancy's Bear and Dragon, where the Russians used WW2 heavy tank turrets for border security with China.
Panther trains / armored trains next please…!!!
Always wondered why, with the mass limitations of the chassis suspension no longer there, these turrets weren't heavily uparmored once emplaced. Why just leave them with the regular armor.
Amazing, I never knew the the NOD defense turret was based on a real thing.
Good job bro
During desert storm, the Iraqi forces entrenched their tanks to use them as defensive positions (similar to the video, tho by half burying some of their tanks) and it did NOT go well for them. They became sitting ducks to a modern military. Plus, i think with things like drone warfare, the concept of a large stationary defensive box actually can backfire if they arent well enough protected by other forces. See previous Desert Storm : their tanks werent all that well protected even in the half burried 'tank foxholes' even tho the idea in concept was sound. (tho i guess you can argue that not only were their tanks, tactics, but just everything overall was outdated for them so the idea itself could still be practical if done right.) idk if this concept has been used at all in any current modern ongoing wars.
Imagine being safe in the living area and the only way out is through the turret top hatch and the turret gets destroyed. You will probably die alone and forgotten of starvation, suffocation or by your own hand
*Tiger breaks down*
Commander: Hanz gets za shovelfusta
Saw in the last minute battles a more late german produced weapon, i think thats a reference to their other video.
1:50 apologies but wtf is this map
Did they have SPAA tank turrets? Or Tank destroyers?
imagine life there when it rains
Reminds me of how we used warthogs and scorpions in Halo 3 and Reach as turrets by placing objects around them so they couldn't move.
wonder if these were the inspiration to command & conquers nod gun turrets
Nice little Easter egg adding the family guy house during the ad read
why didn't they just completely attach the covering to the turret? wouldn't that ensure that the covers don't get pushed aside when it turns?
'Ausf.' is an abbreviation for 'Ausführung' meaning 'type'.
Well, you're a much smaller target in a Panther Turret. Though the lack of mobility makes them vulnerable to infantry with explosives that they can plant or toss onto the turret.
It is crazy how creative Germans were during WWII
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@@stopmotionharry8989not cocaine, it is meth
I'm thinking a Similar idea of a military defensive Turret line where every other turret has a tank gun, or turret with Artillery gun on Ukraines Eastern flank. It might be Helpful against Russia. They use Radios to keep in touch, and if an Artillery shot is More needed than a tank shot one, then one would be in place to be Called upon. Ukraine has a number of old Soviet era stocks to pull from to use. Be similar to the maginot line, but you beef it by also using Mines, and a Personnel Trench, movable Artillery, dragons teeth, and concertina wire.
sadly no, a stationary target is a dead traget in modern warfare with drones and precision strike ammunition and even lacking that the russians have no problem throwing 100+ dumb shells at a target only 1 has to hit.
The transmission wouldn't break down and Panther wouldn't run out of fuel, if your tank is just a turret in the ground!
Panther Ausf A or B just means Ausführung (a German would not say Ausf but Ausführung) and that just means Variant or Model..
i was under the impression all german tanks had the 88mm round, i guess that was only the tiger tanks?
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In Poland there is one of the few, or even the only, specimen of this type of panther as an exhibit.
Well, France wasn't the only country that was using tanks such as Renault light tanks. Also Yugoslavia used these tanks as well. Maybe some of these Yugoslav tanks, were captured by Germans. Of course this is just a guessing (but who am I to judge that). But I do know when Germany occupied Yugoslavia in WWII, they captured Yugoslav plane such as Icarus IK-3 Rogožarski.
I have also heard that there were the flak turrets as well. They were used as an anti-aircraft defense against bombings. Also I have heard that they were used as a shelters where civilians took shelter when there were sounded air raid siren. They were also made out of concrete, and by external appearance, they looked like medieval castles.