Does Disney Have a Ban on the Character of Black Panther?? (Yes, this might be a thing...)
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Even Chadwick’s family wants T’Challa to come back
The family may have wanted it, but the studio and cast and crew are a different story.
…and therein lies the problem.
@@M567dkand the cast and crew can remove the stick from their 🫏
@@M567dk So why does the Studio and cast have more of an ownership over Chadwick than his own family?
@@M567dk Respect Chadwick, but f*ck what his family thinks?
This is one of the weirdest things I've seen Hollywood do. It's an odd cult-like mentality, almost like deity worship. Dude was an actor. Why is he being treated with such reverence? As an actor, isn't the entire art about bringing different performances to life with different takes? Saying that no one should be allowed to play a character anymore to honor a previous performer is a bizarre take that flies in the face of the art of theater. And to extend the death of the actor to the death of the fictional character he played is just insane.
It is simply Hollyweird's way of immortalizing the actor. Quite strange, really.
@@knightmare_editsMore like mocking him
Hmmm
According to this, nobody should play as the Joker anymore because Heath Ledger died.
Or Superman because Christopher Reeves.
@@nont18411batman too right?
*Chadwick Boseman dies*
Disney: "We want to honor and respect his legacy..."
*Doesn't recast T'Challa*
*William Hurt dies*
Disney: "Yes, very sad. Anyway!"
*Gets Harrison Ford for General Ross*
Ye
Didn’t stop them with dumbledore or even all those cameos in the flash movie
@@Evets_03
I know, right?
Wait until you realized what they did to Peter Cushing in Rogue One
I’m no Disney defender and I think Black Panther should’ve been recast but let’s be real, there’s a big difference between recasting a lead hero versus a minor antagonist.
It’s because T’Challa should have been recast. Another actor playing T’Challa would have been Chadwick’s legacy. They used his death to destroy what meant so much to him that he played him dying. Disney always had a problem with what T’Challa represents.
I think they're gonna make t'challa jr the main black panther after shuri retires and hes grown that way they can still do some of the storylines from the comics
@@askers81 t'challa son of tchaka is the black panther just as bruce wayne is batman yeah others have worn the mantle however when the character actor died the character as a whole never truly died with them. T'challa the character shouldn't died with his actor chadwick.
Emotions were high thats why they did what they did. Destroying the character and not allowing another actor to play t'challa is crazy.
Recasting t'challa doesn't hurt chadwick legacy it evolves the character t'challa and the impact chadwick had playing the iconic t'challa.
@@Dirty_joker495we’re talking about a fantasy series with a multiverse. They can just thanos snap an alternate version into the MCU.
Disney and Marvel Studios used Chadwick Boesman's private illnesses as a plot to erase the first black superhero to appear in mainstream US comic books from live action
@@Dirty_joker495 I'm just saying what they're doing
I agree with this! They should continue with the character. They can still honor him as that character. Just like with Heath Ledger's Joker
I was originally onboard with them not recasting, but then I learned that Boseman and his family wanted the character to live on, so I think Disney should have honored those wishes.
Chadwick Boseman IS T’Challa, (?) AS T’Challa.
Why? Chadwick doesn't own the character. Disney does.
Personally, I respect Chadwick a lot, but I never thought of the recast should be exclusive to Chadwick.
Every character has been replaced, and T'Challa is a character older than him.
Just my 2 cents on the idea
@@baligong3592 Every character has been recast only once the franchise was rebooted. That's the difference. Well except for the Tim Burton Batman movie Franchise.
@@SergMilli
- Bruce Banner
- Rhodey
- ThunderBolt Ross
- Howard Stark
- Thanos
- Red Skull
This isn't to mention the Actors who played multiple roles in those movies.
Honestly, no matter how big or small, a recast should be fine if the person died or was too difficult to utilise. We live in an Era where the Characters are who we watch, not the actors. This is why Every Actor wants to be in a Marvel Movie or DC Movie (in DC's case, it's why every male actor wants to play Batman).
Definitely recast!!! The T'Challa character is still new to live action who hasn't had much screen time, and he had the potential to be on the same level as Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, Peter Parker, Tony Stark, and Steve Rodgers. When a character is dead they no longer have a legacy. Chadwick Boseman was great, but no actor is bigger than the character. Recast T'Challa.
Yes the same reason why they took the Boondocks off and wouldn't give Aaron magruder the money he wanted black panther holds too much cultural reverence they don't want black people in social consciousness as positive they want to keep black people in the same stereotypical light
When you erase a billion dollar character, this goes WAY beyond respecting an actor that passed. Especially when they've already recast William Hurt as Thunderbolt Ross. For what it's worth, I don't think they should have recast...instantly. But they could have kept him alive off screen like Brain in Fast and Furious. Have him go on a mission, or go into a coma like he did in the comics!!!
Imagine if DC decided that Batman could never show up again after Kevin Conroy died. I know it's not a perfect comparison since Batman is DC's main guy, but still.
Marvel Studios and Disney don't respect their black fans
It’s a perfect analogy.
Look at what they did to his (Arkhamverse) Batman in that Suicide Squad game no one played.
@@ultraviolet540 What does that have to do with anything? Do you just feel a compulsive need to inject that game into every conversation?
Theories:
1) Disney still trying to 'honor' Chadwick in the most ass backwards way by more or less stunting a character that already existed before he was even born.
2) Possible attempts to push Shuri as the 'new' Black Panther because girlboss ect ECT ect
3) A combo of both which is Disney once again succeeding in overcomplicating a simple task and not even completing it correctly.
I honestly think Disney hates Chadwick given that he hid his cancer to play the role, effectively derailing the movies.
@@joshuahandlen9885 I sort of doubt that. I just think certain people who were at Marvel at the time hated that his character got so popular that they felt the only way to force Shuri into the role was to sideline him. And Shuri HAS been Black Panther in the comics but it was nowhere near as bad nor shitty has how Disney/Marvel enforced it for the movies.
They didn't have to do what they did at all. They could have recast him and just make the movie about Shuri taking the mantel for an outting but no; they killed him off and seriously fucked themselves in the process because using the multiverse to 'bring him back' (and that's even if they go that route) is the fucking dumbest shit they can do and shows how little talent they have as the multiverse now serves as a tool to correct the mistakes of their own shitty writing.
@joshuahandlen9885 I agree with you. Disney turned T'Challa who is one of thr most intelligent characters in all of fiction into the black guy who can run fast and jump high while wearing a vibrainium suit
The character of Tchalla existed way before Chadwick Boseman and should even after. Christopher Reeves and Adam West died, and superman and Batman live on. Even in the mcu itself William Hurt died and like 2 years later general Ross is coming back with a new actor
Christopher Reeves and Adam West died but the Superman and Batman that came after are not from the same franchise or universe. And yes William Hurt died but I think that we can agree that the disruption to continuity brought on by recasting background, supporting characters like Colonel Ross, or James Rhodes is not comparable to recasting someone like Chadwick Boseman or for instance Robert Downey Jr. Part of what makes Marvel cool is the continuity brought on by seeing the same faces that we're familiar with. I don't wanna see someone else being T'challa in this iteration of the MCU. They can save that for the reboot.
Not having a Wakanda and T'Challa is like not having a Latvia and Doctor Doom. These characters round out the world and lore, you kinda need Black Panther. There have been several iterations of other superheroes, no excuses.
Great video. 100% agree. T'Challa needs to return. Roles get recast all the time, and T'Challa shouldn't be the outlier. Chadwick Boseman portrayed character well, but there are capable actors out there who can continue the role of T'Challa, honoring Chadwick Boseman's push for more positive Black male representation and visibility of such roles and opportunities for his peers.
If that is the case that would be one of the stupidier things Disney has done.
Killing and replacing Black Panther in the MCU after Boseman's death is one thing. Doing it in non-MCU projects like your X-men 97 is another thing.
These characters shouldn't be shackled by one actor. Sure I liked him as Black Panther or RDJ as Iron Man or Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, but none of these men should be the end all be all for their characters. Other actors should get the chance to take a crack at playing them some day.
This I agree with. I didn't understand why the character couldn't appear in the cartoon. However I think all of these characters should be recast only once the MCU is rebooted, for continuity sake.
Disney is too cynical to actually care about who plays Black Panther. They just see the perfect opportunity to push Shuri for "modern day" reasons.
And I hope it continues to cost them fans and money
That's how woke works.
@@JoaoPedroPT696 more like how fake diversity works.
Yeah im sick "woke" almost all your favorite films are woke uf you know the meaning of the word: robocop, the matrix, planet of the apes, the friggin x-men (friggin stan lee said he made them as an alegory for the 60s bigotry) woke literally mean "beeing woke" about the goverment ignorance towars human rights.
This is NOT woke this FARCE! The same farce when republicans says that citizens need flawthrowers and machine Guns to be more safe like the live wire movies, theres FARCE in both sides.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the why they haven't recast him
@@JoaoPedroPT696
Killing the first black superhero to appear in mainstream US comic books to profit from the death of the actor who played the character is the opposite of woke. You don't know what the word woke means
This was a great video. And I'm definitely sharing. Tchalla should of been recasted or to the least NOT killed off. Even the EA game by Cliffhanger studios said in thier synopsis eluded to Tchalla may not be in the game. Tchalla's name wasn't even mentioned in their summary. I'm glad more people are talking about this. Tchalla is too important to be left out.
Let's face it: (using my 2005 Era Kanye voice) *Marvel Studios and Disney doesn't care about Black people.*
Same as ll of those ,,consultants, censors etc". They care about dividing us and power because im their minds power brings $$$. Yet they fail to realise ot doesnt work like that long term
Its not just Wakanda Forever and X-men 97', there are 2 upcoming games as well. Marvel 1943, which will feature his grandfather Azuri as the Black Panther and the EA Black Panther game which has been reported to also kill off T'challa and your custom character will take over as the new Black Panther.
Bet both games gona tank hard and be buggy political slop like the SSquad game that is shutting down mere months after the release railing to selll even 1000 copies...
The custom character thing is a horrible idea, the only way I could see that concept working is in an X-Men game. Where you create your own Mutant.
They had that in X-Men destiny. It was pretty underwhelming @@ultraviolet540
Multiverse is the best fix. Monica is in another universe with Mutants. Beast, Cyclops, Storm. And let me introduce you to Storms husband....T'challa.
nah , no variants . just reboot the universe after secret wars is done. mcu has been around for almost two decades its time for a reboot with new actors. all the original actors are getting old and some have left for good.
Black Panther recasting was stopped by feminism disguised as respect for the passing of Chadwick. They wanted to see Shuri get her turn as the Queen of Wakanda. They now know that doesn't work. So the next course of Action is to do what they did to colossus sister Illyana Rasputin, also known as Magik, or Jonathan Kent over at DC. Give us some science-magic mumbo Jumbo to age up T'challa Jr. -and say he was always suppose to be T'challa the Black Panther. That way they respect the history of Chadwick's version of the character, while giving us a proper Black Panther without actually recasting.
The recasting was stopped by feminism? lol! So they planned Chadwick's death so they could cast Shuri? Good lord. Everything is not conspiracy you know...
@@SergMilli No they didn't plan his death. But many of the film companies have a mandate coming down from the top to include a gay theme or make a female the Lead star protagonist. You don't have to believe me. I work in this industry and they strongly suggest you make a woman the lead or they will pull the money from your project. Just look at Furiosa, and how she replaced the Mad Max character. Same thing. -Or How John Connor is not the leader of the resistance in Terminator future. But the Latina Girl. Who came out of nowhere. Replace old male franchise with new Female leads.
@@lindencarlos4222 I don't understand why every time a woman is the lead or a gay person is included, it automatically means there's a mandate. Maybe we should be looking at the mandate that existed for the past 100 years of movies that dictated straight men be leads? Was there ever this kind of uproar then? Men took the bigger share of lead roles for a very long time. What we're seeing today is certainly a consequence of that but that's another conversation. In this current case, I do believe that the main reason T'challa wasn't recast is because of how much impact he had on the character. It would be like replacing Robert Downey Jr. That would disrupt the flow of things to see someone else in these iconic roles. We're familiar with those people. Eventually the MCU will be rebooted just like every other super hero franchise. That's usually when a recast happens (ex:Tobey Macguire's Spider-man doesn't exist in the same reality as Andrew Garfield's) A new actor can play T'challa then.
@@SergMilli Again you don't have to believe me. But I have sat in the rooms of many of Tv and film meetings. The question is always the same. Can you make this character Gay or make this other character a woman. Just paste a woman name over this male character. No one will notice. That's why I love Ripley in the Alien Franchise. She was a flesh out character, always written as a woman.They don't write characters like that anymore. They write characters who fit a false narrative. Example. Anakin learned from Obi wan the ways of the force, and still made mistakes and lost some limbs. Luke learned from Obi wan and Yoda, made mistakes lost some limbs. Rey learned the force by reading some books that Luke had, not from Luke. Made no mistakes, lost no limbs. I'm all for gender equality. But gender equality would be more like Harriet Tubman freeing her people. Not this Barbie revolution. No way Shuri was beating Namor. T'challa barely beat him in the comics. Lol.
@@lindencarlos4222 I'm not saying I disagree that these situations happen. I'm saying that there's a propensity these days for every female or minority casting to be called out as some form of agenda move. That's my issue. The minute a woman or minority shows up, it's called out. That's a problem. And T'challa barely beat Namor in the comics? Fine. That was in the comics. The MCU is it's own thing. Shuri is shown as being genius level and she outsmarted him. Obviously Shuri wasn't going to overpower Namor. The same way Batman could never overpower Superman. But if you find their weakness, that's another story.
Back when Bruce Timm was working on the DCUA (Justice League/JLU) there were specific characters he couldn't use even if he wanted to, case in point Black Manta who was substituted for Devil Ray. These sorts or character embargo are nothing new and happen all the time when there's project overlaps
That's funny because it wasn't a thing until AFTER Chadwick died that they started shytting on this character.
Chadwick Boseman's death was a blessing in disguise for Disney. They wanted to cast Shuri but couldn't find an appropriate way to do so without getting backlash and then the actor died giving them the perfect excuse with fans and media backing it up as though T'Challa was some sacred cow.
Actress playing shuri looked too emaciated for the part. Chad was the epitome of black male perfection but the shuri actress is kind of bottom of the heap for female perfection
The MCU I understand. It was fine that they didn't want to recast after Chadwik died (despite already recasting a few characters. One of them being a black actor). Other projects and even cartoons I don't understand. Just counting cartoon portrals, we've had 9 Spider-Men, 8 Batmen (9 if you count beyond), and 4 teams of TMNT. Why focus on one potential of a character and take away one of the few black repercussions?
I'm gonna get hated for this, but they should've recast Black Panther. I know Chadwick was the perfect actor for the role and his film made him unforgettable but it's clear it's a character that can be done by anyone else. We have 3 spiderman and hulk actors, T'Challa is a role that can be done by another
You'll get appreciated too though, because you're right.
No hate, because many agree especially as time has passed. I wanted him recast from the start. I love T’Challa. I loved Chadwick’s T’Challa. But the character can be portrayed by others, as he was before. Batman would never be retried. Superman has never been retired. I wanted to see T’Challa beat Namor’s ass in comics for years. Now I can never see it in live action.
Yeah true but the truth is they don’t want him back on the screen
@@villanlover58 That’s stupid, entertainment and profit wise. If the movie was a big hit, and the fans loved it, why get rid of the character?
Because of the backlash of toxic people saying they don’t respect Chadwick and in this modern day they listen to the smallest demographic
Greetings fellow Mutants! Nothing should surprise anyone when it comes to Disney & Warner!
There is a channel called The Gospel According to Mac with a C. He has spoken a lot about the erasure of T'Challa for the past few months.
I agree with you completely here. You explained perfectly why dismissing Black Panther altogether really in the grand scheme doesn’t make a ton of sense. People die and be recast for generations. Reboots happen all the time. We have them for a reason. But we want the same actors around for the rest of our lives apparently until they’re literally old…. Your heart can be good intentions, but it’s called moving on. Let the character live on, and not act as if Black Panther exists because of Chadwick Boseman. There’s always going to be different actors playing these characters.
I respect you for giving an honest perspective, and not just following fan boy group think.
Edit: 10:10 YES they deity-fiction of Black Panther was a problem when Chadwick was alive. The pedestalised what was simply a great movie. Not a life changing event.
*Someone says something your beyond inflated ego can't accept* "Oh no! Groupthink, I am clearly better because I don't think like anyone else."
@@melomateus_m.r Someone says something that defies logic and common sense, but you want to look virtuous, so you just go along with the pack. 🤡 And wtf does my ego have to do with any of this?😂
eman talked about this on his channel. he said that the 2nd in charge of marvel said all the 90's marvel shows r connected. to me that's odd cuz there r two different versions of daredevil in those series. spiderman and fantastic four. i think f4 isnt connected cuz the f4 that showed up in spiderman had different voices and designs.
I wanted a recast, but I figured if Disney set Black Panther 2 during the blip, they could hold off on recasting for a film.
Then Ta-Challa wouldn't have been wished back just to die again.
That actually would've been perfect for Wakanda Forever, and it wouldn't really need that much rewriting. Just have the same story beats as the actual film, but mention here or there that there's problems all over the world because of the Blip, and that's why Wakanda has closed its borders.
I had that same idea too, to make a snap gap movie, or perhaps a prequel about his father or grandfather. So that way you have a movie to tide people over that doesn't include T'challa, but doesn't canonically kill him off either and no one's making any rash emotional decisions. After the holdover movie then make the decision about recasting when heads are cooler and time has passed.
@@l.tc.5032 As I recall, that’s what the Spartacus show did
They did this with Chekov in those god-awful NuTrek movies when Anton Yelchin died. For some reason, modern hollywood seems to think its disrespectful for another actor to play the role if an actor dies. I mean.. why? Its called ACTING for a reason...
Well to be fair, they haven’t made a new Star Trek with that cast since 2016 when Anton died.
But that’s for different reasons.
Because you will have whiny fans acting like the roles belongs to said actor.
@@ChildOfTheFlower *points to Snyder Cultists' devotion to Henry Cavill's Superman*
Heres a take: Comic characters going mainstream is the worst thing that has ever happened to the superhero genre. The comic book versions of these characters have been completey replaced in pop culture. We seem to forget that these characters exsisted for decades before the MCU, and somehow the source material has been disregarded or has been changed to mostly reflect its live action counter parts/
You are 100% right, the comics used to be the main source of continuity for anything else but now the MCU and live action DC stuff is. Its really annoying when the characters suddenly act way different because they are in line with their movie versions. Never even read a Peace Maker comic but because of his show and Suicide Squad, he seems to now be some goofy John Cena asshole which I imagine he wasn't like originally.
Exactly 100%. I’m dreading the day they ever put Zatanna from DC in live action
@@chenierderrickZatanna was already adapted to live action in "Smallville". Or do you mean movies specifically?
@@oliviastratton2169 oh I didn’t know that. Or maybe my mind just blocked it out as a coping mechanism.
@@chenierderrick live action movies for comics were being made at first, to sell comics. that is a fact. The Tim Burton Batman spiked those comic sales. But id didnt feel the need the be tied in, they were in service of them.
T'Challa was voiced by Keith David in the 90s animated universe so I'm hoping they'll bring him back to voice Black Panther. He was great in the role.
AKA Spawn from Spawn: TAS
@@TylerAStinson Yeah he's voiced some great characters. Black Panther, Spawn, Goliath, Hordak.
THANK U! Finally, you made so many points that alot or us have nee saying for a long time. Marvel needs to elevate Tchalla and treat him with the same respect they do with everyone else.
In 2021 T’Challa appeared on the Disney Jr show “Spidey and his Amazing Friends.” I don’t know if he’s been in any of the most recent episodes. As the first season could have been made either in 2020 or before 2020 when Boseman was still alive.
How is recasting him dishonorable? They recast Dumbledore when Richard Harris died and nobody cared.
Thats really twisted of disney to not honor the will of an actor who played a very beloved character but then again disney is not the land of dreams they marketed themselves as
Okay, this is just ridiculous. He was only in four movies, top billed star in just one of them. I get if they don't want to recast immediately, but come on. This is what happens in the comics all the time. Characters die, and they're either replaced by a different version, or they're brought back to life through some cosmic bullshit. They pretty much immediately recast Thunderbolt Ross (I know that Ross' last appearance was in 2021's Black Widow and his next will be in 2025, but come on, Marvel instantly started looking), and they even recast Dumbledore right after the original actor for the first two movies passed.
Does anyone really think that Chadwick Boseman would’ve wanted T’Challa to die with him? Even his family doesn’t think so and I get the feeling he’d agree if we could ask him today. Chadwick was great as T’Challa, RIP but T’Challa is bigger than Chadwick and had potential to continue to grow in popularity regardless of what happened to Chadwick. Regardless of wether they should’ve recast him or not, killing the character off screen was a massive disservice to both the character and IMO at least, Boseman’s legacy. Hell, they even had T’Challa die essentially the same way that Boseman did.
He didn't work that hard through deteriorating health only for the character to disappear once he did. It was important to him for selfless reasons, cultural ones too, and it's bizarrely been made solely about _him_ since his departure.
@@StaminaMC couldn’t have said it better myself.
@@StaminaMCIt's because they needed a reason for Shuri to take his place and claimed that they were honoring him. It was a selfish and utterly ghoulish move on Disney because they wanted so fucking much for FemPanther to be a thing.
If they wanted to honor Chadwick they would have listened to him but they didn't. They were more than likely going to plan to kill of T'Challa anyway but they found 'luck'. They knew exactly what they were doing.
I think on top of the actor's death, and the fear of backlash in recasting him too soon, the MCU was stuck in this spot of having to move forward without him. They probably had a sequel in mind before his death and were still committed to doing so, but felt they had to rewrite it in a way that acknowledged real world events, so besides pushing shuri as the replacement and whatever was going on with Namor, it likely shot down a lot of enthusiasm for how to move forward with that character and setting as a major player in the MCU. Post-End Game media has been really unfocused, basically throwing in more characters/concepts/places without much of a natural connection between each other, probably to see what sticks, while trying to ease Kang into place as the next major threat.
With said major threat now having their central actor out of the picture, and a lot of the underwhelming reception recent MCU media has received... I'm pretty sure Marvel/Disney's concerns right now are not going to be focused on how to bring back this one superhero among dozens of others. Especially when it's been put in such an awkward position about potential backlash. The next Black Panther actor, and movie, would have to be amazing or at least really good to cement itself as a worthy successor... and given the MCU's recent track record, I wouldn't suggest it.
Very good video! I promise i will share this video like crazy! Tchalla needs to return.
Maybe they will listen maybe they won’t. But Marvel Studios CANNOT say they aren’t AWARE of what they actions have wrought. Permanently sidlining the character of T’Challa doesn’t honor him or the actor that portrayed him.
Recast. Said it back then. I’ll say it now. It doesn’t honor the actor to make the character fade away from adaptation. I don’t think Boseman would want that.
Not recasting T'Challa was one of the worst decisions they made in recent years, and that's saying something. This whole "There can be only one" sacred mentality is just a giant virtue signal, and it's extremely cringe. I was never on the "Dldon't recast" bandwagon, and I think the only reason a lot of people were is precisely because it was a bandwagon. Don't get me wrong, it sucks when someone who seemed like a genuinely good and decent human being does so suddenly and tragically, but frankly, my attachment is to the characters, not the specific people playing them, and T'Challa was too important to the MCU moving forward. Having him die in more or less the same way that Boseman himself did completely undermined the narrative arc he was on and just left a giant gaping hole in the world that Shuri just isn't capable of filling. No beef with the actor, she does a serviceable job, but I didn't see Wakanda Forever because I wanted to see the rivalry between "the" Black Panther and actual Namor, not second string backup quarterback Black Panther and Namor in name only. Making Shuri the lead is like making Q the lead in a 007 film. Q is cool, but I'll always be thinking that I'd much rather be watching James Bond.
When Boseman passed, I knew that T'Challa would too. Honoring an actor by not recasting them is one thing, practically erasing the character they played is another all together, but it was to be expected in this era. Its one of the things I dislike when comparing DC and Marvel in fact. DC doesn't mind letting the movies have an identity separate from the comics, but Marvel seems to have an obsession with making the comics as similar to the movies as possible.
If you asked me, the perfect way to honor Boseman would have been a mandate where T'Challa would always be drawn to look like him (granted the family would agree of course). Honoring a great actor by immortalizing their face as the character they played and loved playing sounds great to me and im sad that a character that he brought to life so well has to disappear instead of love on
They literally recast Thunderbolt Ross(who has been a prominent recurring character) because of William Hurt's passing. James Rhodes and Bruce Banner were suddenly recasted out of nowhere and the world moved on. Black Panther(T'Challa) needs to be recast. I feel like Chadwick would want someone else to keep the character going. And me as a selfish marvel fan wants to see the relationship of Storm and T'Challa play out in the MCU, as well as having him as the next "Iron Man" role of providing advanced tech, money, knowledge, and maybe even being apart of a possible Illuminati team up. There's so many more stories to tell with T'Challa. I'm sad af Chadwick passed so soon and loved his portrayal of the character, but we NEED T'Challa back in the MCU.
Great video📹👏
I think we deserve what Disney has done due to our ignorance. I was one of the people saying “no he shouldn’t be recasted.” However like you said the reality of this job is that it is a job and after Black Panther two they are in dire need of a recasting
DeMayo's NDA likely has more to do with his termination, and not being able to speak on internal Disney business anymore- not so much confirming anything about Black Panther.
Emotional decisions are stupid decisions.
Chadwick Boseman is just another actor, and Black Panther is just another superhero. Neither is, or should be, a sacred cow. Black Panther preceded Boseman, and he will continue long after Boseman.
something most folks dont know is that marvel added xmen 97 to their multiverse timeline. so since they dont want to use tchalla and just his dad in the mcu, it now makes sense as to why his dad was black panther in xmen97. so the bp in xmen 92 might of been the dad. HOWEVER this is a cop out cuz they only added xmen 97 to the mv timeline, when the show did well. maybe that was the plane all along. if it does well, they will add it to the timeline and if not, then it wouldnt matter.
I liked that they didn’t recast him IMMEDIATELY, and I enjoyed BP 2, it was a great sendoff. But now that that’s done with we need him recast and in the leading role like NOW lol.
We’re doing all this multiverse stuff, just throw in the new BP. He could even be in the main universe, just have him displaced from some other universe but he eventually just slips back into his role where the original tchalla left off, make it a plot point or whatever. Point is we NEED BP back in the MCU.
I like Shuri in the MCU and in the comics when she was BP, but the way they set up her character in the MCU in combination with the actress she can’t carry the franchise unfortunately
Good video thanks.
I believe Disney wanted to honor Chadwick Boseman's performance because they never believe how much money the movie was going to make. I believe it's time to cast another actor in the role of T'Challa as his family has given their blessing to have the character continue on in the MCU.
The first few seconds reminded me of when I had a squirrel and she wanted a piece of whatever I was eating.
It's time for Disney to #RecastTchallaSr in the MCU 💯💯💯💯💯
Imagine being known for one character. I wouldn’t want that if i was an actor
They have Secret Wars coming up so all they need is a variant pop up there then slide into the new MCU they are making.
It is a very strange thing which I feel like personal needs it done this isn’t that marvel keeps making. I’m glad it hasn’t affected the comics yet, but the keyword is yet.
When I want to play as Black Panther in the video games. He should be T’Challa . T’Challa is the most famous Black Panther, but not only that probably the most famous black superhero period.
This is something that I was thinking but now after x-men 97 this only confirmed it for me. We’re even get a black panther game with no tchalla, and no I’m not referring to the captain America panther team up game. I actually mean we’re getting a solo black panther video game where tchalla is dead and u the player have to create ur own character
Why is it so odd that Marvel decide not to recast T'challa? The way I see it, one of Marvel's big draws is the continuity element. It's cool to see characters come back with the same faces that we're familiar with. And in the case of T'challa, the role was so heavily impacted by Chadwick's performance that replacing him would be like replacing Robert Downey Jr in the role of Iron Man. Terrence Howard was replaced but he didn't have anywhere close the impact on Rhodey that Chadwick and RDJ have had on T'challa and Tony respectively. So it's pretty understandable why there would be apprehension about replacing him from Marvel. The example of Kevin Conroy isnt really applicable as he's a voice actor and while he's made his mark on Batman too, we're not seeing his face. No one is saying T'challa can't come back at some point in another iteration of the MCU or a reboot. He doesn't have to come back now tho. How is any of this tarnishing his legacy? It's ridiculous. Whatever Chadwick wanted or didn't want, he doesnt own the character, Disney does. So what does his opinion or his family's matter in this?
So no Black Panther, Blade and Luke Cage plus Monica sent to another universe. Black characters are disappearing 💯😪😪😪
Its really sad smh
I just figured they were doing his origin over. It seemed like the Avengers havent been formed yet in X Men 97 so I just saw it as set up... But that's me
They don't have a ban on T'Challa, they already planned to replace him with a female just like they did (or at least attempted) with pretty much every other MCU hero. Yes even Black Widow got replaced by a female. This is Disney, NO EXCEPTIONS
Recast T'challa Is Important
The recast Tchalla community has been going for a while now.. we were not calling for an immediate recast we just didnt want Marvel to to kill Tchalla off with Chadwick. Recasting has never been a bad thing.. its show business and the show must go on. And fictional characters don't have to die like we do.. #RecastTchalla and put the King back on his throne
It wouldn’t take away from his portrayal whatsoever- I think it’s interesting to let other actors offer their own take on a character, to differentiate themselves, and honor who came before. They’ve been doing it forever with James Bond.
They could have honored his and his families wishes, and recast the character.
Let Black Panther live on.
They should have recast him and had sent T'Challa to space or something so he could come back.
It's a difficult situation with such a big star dying so young. I'm sure it will be sorted eventually.
"Eventually" isn't good enough. People were waiting north of half a century for the live action depiction of that character, now there's to be another undetermined wait? Not cool.
@Dunnybrook This is a bad faith take. Most people didn't even know who Chadwick Boseman was before Black Panther. None of his previous starring roles made anywhere near a $100milion until BP. How much longer must fans wait?
@@Haramu-Fal0/ listen man......there's no-Doubt -about it, the ("MCU") will have another "actor" to play ("Black Panther"), in due time, though, patients is everything, ......(Marvel) Know the value of that "character", it's & franchise own it's Own, believe me, We will have & Black-Panther)
@@DelowStar 1st off if they KNEW the value of that character they wouldn't have killed him off in the 1st place. 2nd If your going to shill for Feige and least bring your proof because so far all they've done is remove him from movies, games, cartoons-in which he's already previously appeared- and dethroned him in his OWN comic. No actions they've taken have indicated they intend to do right by this character. It's been passed 50+ years for this BLACK HERO to get his due, so you don't get to tell long time fans black or otherwise to "relax" OR "be patient." You can keep it pushin'.
@@Haramu-Fal0 / man, you -waisting-energy thinking about why? They killed him off, just know it will be another ("Actor") who will be playing "Black Panther")
Recast Tchalla…its pretty simple
Chadwick Was a Talented Actor but the Character must continue to his story in the universe!. He is in his own right an important factor in the corner of the marvel universe!
He's in the upcoming Marvel Rivals game though
Disney was going to replace him with Sheri anyway that's another reason why they didn't recast him other than Chadwick died. But now they finna used his son to carry on the Black panther mantle. But you're right they should have recast and this wouldn't have been a issue.
#RecastTchalla
Chadwick Boseman's performance as T'Challa/ Black Panther is iconic, his take on the character is probably the most renowned version in any media.
That said, and i say this with the utmost respect, no actor is bigger than the character he/she is playing.
Im willing to forgive Wakanda Forever since, from what i understand, a lot of the story had to change last minute due to Boseman's death, it was still a decent watch , and it had a beautiful ending in my opinion. I felt T'Challa should have gotten a new actor , not right away, obviously, but his story was far from done , in fact, it was just beginning.
Im not convinced Shuri can continue as the primary black panther going forward, but we will see i guess. There are plenty of actors out there that can portray T'Challa as well as Boseman did and honor his legacy, id be curious to see how Disney handles the franchise in the future
Another thing to consider, tiana at Disney parks is normally the one princess character that is least accurate to their animation counterpart in the film, where they always make sure that princesses like Cinderella are always accurate to their original film counterparts.
Marvel Studios and Disney love losing money. A billion dollars franchise down the drain.
Kinda strange they would do that to black panther
Could be they’re changing the original Black Panther origin by having T’Chaka still be alive and possessing the mantle along with his son in the X-Men 97 universe.
T’Chaka spoke with the American government cos he’s the king of Wakanda. Maybe T’Chaka will die in season 2 and T’Challa will become king and be the only Black Panther. An odd direction to go in but could possibly be the case.
Honestly I was under the idea that they want the kid who plays T’Challa II in Wakanda Forever to be the next Panther.
They’ll probably have a time skip, he’ll be much older when we see him again.
In a day and age like this. Corporations preach diversity but they don't want to bet on black characters. They want Batman money but don't want to put the work in over time. They walk on eggshells around minority characters so afraid of offending that when they find an out to not portray them they take it and run, so sad. Theres a problem with everything needs to be connected or continued, it leaves everything loved in the past. Static Shock as well, same with blue beetle it fell at the first hurdle so they just give up. We need staple minority characters not hand me down white characters cause they know it can sell. This isn't even superhero specific, bet on black its simple as that
I want Doctor Strange to bring a good version of Killmonger from a different Universe, he was so cool!!!
I honestly wouldn’t mind if he became Black Panther, idk if that ever happened in the comics though.
They recast Rhody. They recast Ross. They recast Banner/Hulk. They recast Fandral. One was due to death, the others due to other conflicts. Big shoes to fill, for sure, but they can recast T'challa. With the multiverse storyline being developed, they can explain it as an alternate Earth. This is definitely a PR issue.
Though I wouldn’t call the money, Wakanda forever made just decent. It made a pretty good amount of money. I would say Disney would say it’d be a success. And although I do believe it’s due to the passing of Chadwick for its financial and critical success.
Most of the criticisms I hear about that film now happened like a year or so after the film released because I remember the film getting a lot of good fan reception too maybe some of the criticism that I mostly hear right now.
Maybe the good fan reception just came from again the passing of Chadwick and maybe he was recently he bias as well but I just find the criticism so strange right now it’s that same feeling I have no way home as well
They said Chadwick Boseman mattered.
They said Black Panther mattered.
They never said T'Challa mattered, and they proved it by refusing to recast.
T’Challa will always be the GOAT.
Jack Kirby
Weird that they suddenly chose now to not use the character In things cause an actor is dead
They could just use the multiverse thing and just have an alternate version of Black Panther as Keith David or something.
I was in favor of having a "TEMP" ban on the character in order to give the audience some time and give Marvel time to work on a long term plan on the character. Doing too much would only harm the Name brand of the character. But i think its about due time to see him in some future projects. A strong leading character is what Marvel is missing and needs something if they want the audience to come back.
Yeah, that was kind of my idea too. I think rather than killing the character off, they should have reworked the movie to have either taken place in the 5-year snap gap or make it a prequel about his father (or maybe even his grandfather, which would have been a good opportunity to get back to the World War II era of the MCU if they went with that). So that way we have an organic reason why his character isn't there without killing him off. This way there would be plenty of time to process emotions, let grief play its course out then after the movie has been made and time has passed they could reassess if they actually want to put a permaban on recasting. My guess is after that amount of time they probably wouldn't have.
The crazy thing was Chad wanted the character recast and wanted the character to live on in the films and shows
Maybe it’s because Disney is still a racist company at heart (for example Disney was ready to openly copyright the day of the dead in 2016, in 2016 they made an effort to try to not make Moana a Disney princess, the princess and the frog isn’t getting any representation at the disney parks until a decade after the film realise, but the song of the south log ride its replacing got to live in Disneyland for 30 years.). Sweeping black panther under the rug means the Disney company can go back to making safe films that don’t take risks.
Chadwick Boesman was born in 1976. T'Challa's successful introduction in 1966 made the possibility of including black superheroes in mainstream comic book stories a viableoption. T'Challa was an icon before Chadwick Boesman was even born. T'Challa had his fans long before Chadwick Boesman played the role: T'Challa has been my favourite superhero since I was in the second grade back in 1979. T'Challa didn't magically spring into existence when Chadwick Boesman first played the character
Many great actors have played James Bond, many great actors have played Sherlock Holmes, many great actors have played Ebenezer Scrooge.
I don’t get why comic book fans think only one person can play a character very well.
@petermj1098 I think it's more the ones who were just introduced to T'Challa when Chadwick Boesman first played the character. Most long-time fans of the character wanted the role of T'Challa recasted
It doesen't make sense once Ross appears in What if? X Men and recasted him from William Hurt to Harrison Ford
Recast please 🙏
I always imagined Black Panther was a character like the Phantom - one in a long line.
But Kit Walker is THE Phantom. Same thing w T’Challa. If not for him, there’d be NO Black Panthers at all. It all starts w T’Challa.
@@BeRealWithDReal
Kit is the 21st Phantom.
@@atticstattic T’Challa isn’t the first Black Panther but the one we first saw & most synonymous with the title. As is Kit w the Phantom mantle. Right? First Phantom Lee Falk showed us.
@@BeRealWithDReal
And, so what?
@@atticstattic T’Challa is THE Black Panther.
True, especially with all the multiverse crap. They can easily explain away why the dude looks different.
What a way to honour the memory of Chadwick Boseman.
I had actually forgotten that there was a wakanda forever movie , I think it's been long enough and they should recast him . But the dilemma is how ?
Some multiversal/variant shenanigans at this point. Some folks suggest a Skrull substitution unbeknown to the royal family etc; personally I think that makes Wakanda look even more silly than the second movie already did. It's definitely harder now than it ever needed to be, that's for sure.
@@StaminaMC Secret Wars is our last hope
Nobody complained about when they replaced Rhodey / War Machine and Bruce Banner / Hulk so why couldn’t T’Challa be recast too?
The recasting of Rhodey was no different than the recasting of Bruce Banner- just Disney/Marvel Studios going with a different actor for business reasons. The same with multiple actors portraying Howard Stark in different movies.
The decision to not recast T'Challa revolved around the actor's unexpected death and their perception that recasting would be negatively perceived by the public.
To me this situation had always been the equivalent of Tom Holland tragically dying, and then replacing him with Miles Morales, yeah you’re not replacing Peter Parker with a recast, but you are still ultimately replacing Spider-Man.