GOPRO KARMA DRONE: Hands-on!
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why on earth made you do the video in an area where you cant fly...?
hes probaby not allowed to fly it. boring though
GoPro didn't permit it at the event.
does the hero 5 come with karma
yes, if you want to pay another $200
i think its more than $200!
Informative, but disappointing we didn't see it fly, or any footage. :-(
check out a channel called "Casey Neistat" he vlogs and got to fly this drone.
Hi All! A lot of you have asked about DJI Mavic Pro. I'll have something up shortly on that (and yes, even including flying). Note that if some have seen other peoples videos where the Mavic video appeared 'soft', it's simply because they were doing it wrong. On the Mavic you have to set a focus point, which many RUclipsrs didn't do correctly. Anyway, hang tight!
yeah lots of drone footage we've seen tons of videos of how they look, the footage is what people are craving and drooling for especially a video comparison side by side video shots.
I disagree. I prefer seeing real peoples footage, rather than some marketing stuff that's been triple-processed and every last perfection nailed on it. That's not realistic, and we don't even know how much processing has been applied. Anyone with FCP or Premier can make crap drone footage look great. I wanna see drone footage out of the box.
Out of the box is quite meaningful to the vast majority of consumers. If out of the box footage is useless (i.e. from Lily drone), then no amount of post-prod can save it. So to say that you shoudn't just untouched footage is about at meaningless as saying you shouldn't just camera imagery prior to photoshop/lightroom/etc...
DC Rainmaker is this drone come with gopro
There are rarely few seasoned drone reviewers who are able to look beyond the paper specs and ask ourselves the real reasons of getting a drone. Drone racing, commercial crops spraying...you and i most likely are getting one to take aerial perspectives of our life experiences and encounters to share with friends. We all agreed GoPro videos on youtube are sticky and addictive and we all aspire to create such content. If you look closer, such great story-telling videos usually consist of footages taken from different perspectives with a simple storyboard.
This is when you could see the light of why GoPro Karma is such a clever design with that intention in mind; a detachment gimbal and camera to capture different perspectives from the sky, on the ground and in the sea. We would then see the real benefits of the four pre-programme flight paths capturing cinematic aerial moments. The last thing we wish to do with the drone is to fly them aimlessly in the sky like a kite. Do we really need a drone to fly 7km away at breakneck speed? On a side note, what about the all important "collision avoidance" and "follow-me" features EVEN THOUGH like all greedy consumers i might not really need them? But i want them! So it great to hear that Karma already have all the hardware necessary for future firmware upgrades to allow "collision avoidance" and "follow-me" features. i read that in the reddit/Engadget interviews with Mr Woodman and Pablo Lema respectively.
But GoPro did not end just there because we know all too well what happened to our wonderful footages. They are most likely buried in the SD card or backup hard drive waiting for that glory day to tell our stories if and only if we could finally managed to overcome the steep learning curve of video editing software. This is when GoPro Quik Desktop comes in handy. Now, It is really easy to stitch together those recordings into a wonderful story backed by a massive royalty-free but always-seems-appropriate music library. Have a try. It is really an Apple-like video editing software sans the frustration.
Finally, the GoPro plus provide a nice finish with a convenient cloud-based repository of our ever-increasing collections of videos within Internet-reach.
So in my opinion, GoPro is no longer an action camera or drone company we are familiar in the past. It has finally evolved into one that has delivered the promise for an end-to-end, Apple-like ecosystem consisting of Hero 5/Karma/Gimbal Grip/Quik desktop/GoPro Plus allowing us to tell and share our stories effortlessly to everyone!
DJI is merely another drone company.
this is the best detailed video of the karma so far! thank you!
One of the better pre-release reviews I have seen on the Karma showing more of the controller features than on other channels. You did a good job for where you were at the time, don't worry about some of the hater comments.
Great job. Most thorough walk through I've seen
Great unboxing "hands-on" video. Looking forward for the flying "hands-on" video to see how this performs compared to the others.
Thanks! Very good review indeed. Cheers from Scandinavia.
This is the best video on the drone, GREAT EXPLANATION!!!!!
This is so much better than the Mavic because we know the quality that GoPro puts out in its cameras.
Great vid Ray! Answered a few questions I had after seeing some other more.... superficial videos about it.
Wow, DC RainMaker is doing drone video stuff, This guy is a genius in the cycling tech arena!!
Nicely done.
Can you put an extension pole at the end of the gimbal grip?
i think so
thanks! I wonder if there will be a gopro pole for i can use something universal.
The Karma is pretty awesome just got it.
I actually purchased this drone from BestBuy about a month ago. First, let me say that this is the first drone I have purchased or flown, but according to GoPro this drone was made for folks like me. I am new to drones, new to GoPro and they claim I am their target audience. So I bought in and ponied up $1200 (kit plus a battery). I was enjoying using the Karma but on three separate occasions while trying to land the Karma it would take off just a few feet from the ground while landing. It shot straight up in the air, I let go of the joysticks (manual and videos says it sould stop and hover) and it rose like a bullet and flew straight off. I had GPS and the battery was about 3-4 minutes left and was landing per the controller instructions. THe first time I was able to get the Karma to respond and land safely, the second time it took off and almost flew into electrical wires. I was also able to finally (and just before it almost hit the wires) get Karma to come back down and land. Again, GPS was on and trying to land before the battery low warning came on. And now the third and sadly final time it took off on its own. I was again trying to land Karma and it shot straight up in the air and took off forward lodging itself 60 feet in the air in a top branch of a tree. A few moments later the battery fell out of the Karma. And there it sits in a tree until I can A) pay a tree guy/gal to go up and retrieve it or B) try and shoot it down which will probably end up destroying the drone, camera and gimble. Since, I spent all of my money on the drone and extra batteries and props I cannot afford to pay someone to retrieve it. If you are thinking about buying this, DON'T. Wait until GoPro can get this thing fixed properly. Otherwise, be prepared to have $1200 stuck in a tree mocking you all while you fight the urge to throw up. I am gutted that I foolishly spent this money and stupid enough to believe the hype.
What about calibrating the GoPro karma, how would that be done? I am so excited to get this drone. The handheld gimbal sold it for me and the passenger app, my dad will like controlling the gimbal while I fly.
Yes, the Karma has been recalled, but I had finished my review at about the exact same that notice went out. Eventually, it'll start shipping again, and thus will let you know whether it's worth waiting for.
My full in-depth review here: In-Depth Review: www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/11/gopro-karma-drone-review.html
Do you know if the drone and controller will be sold by itself, aside from the package deal? Planning to get the Karma grip at release but don't need the Karma right now because I have a Phantom. If some point down the road I decide to switch out my Phantom for the Karma, If I buy the package deal that would give me 2 grips and I don't need that. Also the tracking feature, avoidance, etc.....do you think those will get added on to the 1st gen Karma or possibly a 2nd gen?
Basically a 3DR Solo in different skin. Very similar architecture it seems.
I'm looking forward to DJI's event on Monday, when they're likely to introduce the Mavic.
I wonder if you are locked into using the transmitter monitor, or can you use FPV goggles/glasses? I use the Epson Moverio glasses with my DJI Phantom, and wouldn't switch to the GoPro if it didn't have that capability.
Do you need to have the controller on to have the karma on fully?
The reason being is because I'm trying to figure out what isn't working correctly. It's either the drone or the controller.
My stabilizer will not prop itself up once turning on the karma. Customer service thinks it's the controller but I don't think that's the problem.
I also know the stabilizer works fine because it works with my grip without any error.
Thanks - nice review.
At the moment you won't see much flight footage on the net until the Gopro 5 is released. Was considering the Phantom for aerial photography because it's the best on the market and it can shoot RAW which is something I really need. One thing I don't like about the phantoms is the price of the batteries, frigging too expensive for what they are. But this all changed when I learned about the release of the Karma Drone and the GoPro Hero 5 :-) the package is cheap for what is on offer, the batteries are cheap compared to DJI lipos, the controller includes a decent screen in a nice package. One other thing I was worried about was the fisheye effect of the Gopro's apparently when the GoPro 5 is attached to the drone it has a linear mode that flattens the horizon, it also now shoots RAW and HDR photos. But I will still wait till it's released to see more in depth hands on reviews before I buy it but I think this will defiantly be my next purchase :-)
So will it "allow you to take off. On the DGI is useless around airport, even in sometimes legal areas. Can you disable the restricted settings on this. There are approved uses that an override needs to be made available for.
+Gavin Seim No, it will not. It's more restrictive than DJI.
Wait so drones won't even work when you want them to? And how bad is it on the Karma? Obviously I don't wanna break any rules, but if it's not going to work when it needs to...
Great review man, thanks! I think I will hold off on getting the Karma until they add more features to the design. I saw the DJI ad and the features on that one look awesome, specially the object avoidance and tracking. DJI will avoid running into objects automatically. I think that's an important feature to have. So I will wait a while before getting the Karma. Again, thanks for the review!
Great video! Rather than ripping the Karma, you tell the good and the bad of the drone. Thanks!
I own the hero 3 black. You mentioned you can't change settings while in flight , but can you still see the live video on the remote?
I have a GoPro Hero 3+ Black, will the Karma remote pair with it? So I can see what's being recorded... I don't mind turning the camera on manually
Hey I was just wondering can you use the go pro on the drone for other use like example clipping it on your surfboard could please respond thanks
Love the quality here, what camera did you use?
It was shot on a Nikon D500 DX in 4K. Thanks!
I really like the build quality of the entire package. Everything seems very solid and not cheap. Both Yuneec and DJI (Yuneec more so) feel cheep and toy like. For the money the Karma package seems very well suited. There's a lot of Karma bashing already mostly because of lack of features but to be honest, for the money the Karma is a perfect fit for the GoPro ecosystem. After all, the GoPro is meant to be a versatile action sports camera that can be mounted everywhere. The Karma is just another mount, in this case an airborne one. I love the modularity of the gimbal. That is really cool. One thing you didn't confirm is whether or not the hand held grip can be mounted to the backpack. I have seen other video where that is shown.
Yes the features and even the software are a bit on the low end but for the money I think it is a good buy. I like the dynamic "home" feature.
I'm a little perplexed as to why they don't have a "Follow Me" feature. That's a bit odd considering one of the main things people do in action sports is film themselves in action! So the fact that it doest have a traking feature is very odd.
Overall I think this is a good value based package. One thing you should clarify is whether or not the GoPro is included. You make it sound like EVERYTHING you see in the case is included... but I don't think the camera is included.
Thank you for the overview.
because it is black it doesn't feel cheap? the vid quality seems to be quite average for the limited amt of videos I have seen thur far, due to the gopro reps co trolling the situation presumably
Great video, very thorough. It wouldve been even better if you showed us the flight modes and how it handles.
Hi there i only ask if there is follow mode for this karma? Thank you and God Bless.
The GoPro comes with the drone?
Awesome!
Are you able to direct the camera upwards past the 90 degree angle on this one?
When buying "All + Hero 5 Black" do you get a hero 5 in its original package or just attached to the drone. Basically I'm asking if I get everything i would normally get if I just bought the camera
That's a good question, and one I'm not sure on the answer to. Obviously you'll get all the mounts/etc...but whether or not the Hero5 Black will be an as-is boxed package inside the Karma box, or just be stuck inside the camera gimbal already...that I'm not sure on. My bet is that it's in the camera gimbal, since there's not a ton of room within the boxed for the Hero5 boxed product (which is kinda bulky).
great video! make a video of the karma flying
thank you
Is the Hero 5 Gopro included with the purchase?
Pls do a full, list comparison when you have both Mavic and Karma tested in the field. thx!
do u like the inspire 1 v2 better ??
Very cool video, can't wait to try it. lol
How long does the battery for both Hero 5 and the karma ?? Because I want to these but nobody actually talks about the battery!
Did it come with the camera? Is this the official version which comes with it?
+DC Rainmaker Nice!Does the hero 5 black fit the gimbal with the included frame?What about hero 4 black?What are the dimensions hero 4 vs hero 5?Thanks!
The Hero4 would require a different gimbal cage, which costs $20.
Can you program it to fly a certain path and do it automatically?
Hey DC, How's the battery life of drone and controller?
nicely done! i hope there is a follow up review on flight video captures / response time / and Battery life on actual normal flying.
+Marvin Villaruz Yup...soon!
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How is this a review if all that type of testing is missing? Cheers, this message has stopped me wasting time watching a review that doesn't review.
keep it up mate!
Awesome, but How do you get it?, Could I buy it?
awesome vid man but I was really looking forward to a fly demo sucks u where by an airport
Just by listning a little to the material.. Is it mere plastic and fragile, or can it withstand some form of beating like the camera itself?
It's a bit rugged (at least it feels it). Also, the parts are all modular, so you can buy them individually if you need to down the road.
when I buy the drone
does it come with the go pro hero 5
How does it work with a hero 4 when the connections don't match up?
I like how every video I click on of the GoPro karma has an Ad for the DJI mavic in the beginning
I wouldn't know, I don't get ads with my account,........
Any idea if this works with the Hero 8??
both the karma grip and the drone work with hero5 session right?
Correct.
can you get the drone without gopro and is it cheap because I have a gopro already
If you have a GoPro Hero4 Silver or Hero4 Black yes, if you have a Hero3 then you can but you can't control settings.
Karma has a practical size and flight time that's practical for adventures. I'm still looking for a viable means of safely transporting my Typhoon H. Karma will be great for getting in fast, getting the shot and moving on to the next location for a shoot.
get the DJI Mavic cost less, does more.
+AcolyteOF Fire cost more, you have to pay more for the controller
Does GoPro provide you with a micro SD with the drone?
Hey does it come with the hero5?
Can't wait for that M600 review you got on your wrist :D
+MagicUnic0rn Very soon!
Is there a pro mode like we can change the camera setting like aperture, iso, and shutter speed? Thanks!
+rafi siregar Yes.
Does the hero 5 come with the karma drone?
For sure I'm buying
dont. the DJI mavic is far far better
+AcolyteOF Fire And cost more
Excellent video 👍
I just love the controller, but no additional stabilization or obstacle avoidance in this day and age, is a major thumbs down for me. How curious, the price difference against the dji mavric, is the same as gopro's camera lol
can you put the gopro session on karma without buying another harness ?
To use a Hero4 silver would it be exposed in the cradle or is there a
protective case that is designed to be used with the KARMA?
There's a separate $20 mount being sold for that to make it work with Karma.
THANKS - but will the camera be protected? also would you upgrade from a hero4 silver to a hero5 black?
Good video thanks but would be much better if you could demonstrate it flying. After all that's its purpose.
does it come with the camera?
What is the weight of the entire backpack? (with drone, charger, battery, GoPro Hero 5, Karma grip, gimbal, controller etc. I.e all the things shown in the first part of your review).
Heavy. Heavier than I expected. I don't have an exact weight at this time. Sorry!
U should get a better recorder cuz the sounds is a little bit weird but overall it is really good, helps a lot thx
does the camera come with the drone ??
Will you be doing a DJI Magic pro tutorial / comparison? If and when you do which of the two would you recommend? Thank you!
Yes. In general, the Mavic looks like a more capable drone than Karma, but there are certainly aspects of Karma that may make it more appealing. Numerous folks have commented that the Mavic struggles a bit in higher winds, which Karma doesn't seem to (for example, the Kamra launch event was held on a very windy day). The gimbal detachment piece may be appealing to folks as well, which Mavic lacks.
That said, for most folks, I suspect Mavic will easily 'win'.
DC Rainmaker you are absolutely right the accessories on the karma great selling points and may help someone choose which way to go. On the other hand for novice drone flyer the Mavic has cameras to help with accident avoidance which will help with in door operations. I'm looking to purchase my first drone and they're not making it easy for me. Thank you for a great tutorial!
But image quality is kinda weak on the Mavic ... thats a big nogo for me
Be careful on looking at a number of the Mavic footage bits out there (like Casey's initial one and others), because many people weren't told they had to tap the screen to have it refocus (at infinity). I can't blame them, it's stupid the app/cam doesn't do that by default. But there are some pieces where people have done this and it's as we'd expect from the P4-type sensor.
DC Rainmaker I hate to admit but I'm a lil lost with taping the app? I just saw casey's latest video (released today) on the Mavic n P4. Are you saying that you have to tape the screen to re-focus the Mavic?
so the camera is in this set too??
Wouldn't it be nice if you film this else where but the airport.......
Does the go pro come with the karma or do i have to buy it separately?
$799USD - No GoPro
$999USD - GoPro Hero5 Session
$1099USD - GoPro Hero5 Black
Wow virtually no info on actually flying the Karma, how does it fly compared to other drones like the 3DR Solo and Phantom?
How long does it take to aquire GPS signal before flight?
How complicated is it to setup an orbit compared to the competition? or any other shot for that matter?
Was the flight distance as advertised more or less?
I love my 3DR solo but hate its footprint, might actually go for this just from the portability perspective.
Does anyone know if the controller sticks are customizable?
does it come with the go pro
I really want to buy this drone is it worth the money
As you probably know by now you missing the ring that holds the gimbal in the grip, you forgot to pull that out which was under the remote compartment👍🏼😊
Does it come with a camera?
Is the grip water resistant at all???
is the karma grip water proof (full underwater)? or water resistant ?
It's splash/rain/fog resistant, but not immersion resistant.
Can you fly the karma without gps? To change from Atti to gps or manual?
You can. You'll get a bunch of error messages you'll have to confirm, but you can indeed fly w/o GPS (such as indoors).
The go pro hero 5 is not included correct?
When in where you can buy?
How many packs of batteries can this back pack hold??? I hope atleast 3.
can we use hero 4 session ?
Did it come with a camera
There is no physical cable link between the GoPro camera and the drone body. It means they use the wireless video communication from camera to the drone and then to the remote controller. This design may bring more time delay of the video downlink. Could you check it?
+youyi li Nope, that's incorrect. It uses the physical USB-C port for power/control, and the HDMI port for video output, which is then relayed to the controller wirelessly. You can see these ports more clearly in the Karma Grip video I put together linked in the video.
DC Rainmaker Thanks a lot for the information. I get wrong. But it will be still sweet if you could do some comparison of the video / control delay of Karma vs. Phantom 4.
Can u use the session 4?
It doesn't have any of the easy "following" modes?, I like how other drones you can press a mode and it will follow, or record in front of you vice versa. Does it have these modes or not??
No, it does not have any of those modes. Kinda a big gap.
Hmmm, thanks for the reply.
Big selling points for me are:
• wrist watch for one hand control
• those pre-set modes for automation
Can you suggest any drones that offer that now?
can you not fly it due to the proximity of the airport? Similar to the Yunteec?
It respects various nofly zones.
Can you tell me the Size from the Case? And the weight with the Drone...
I ask because the Hand Baggage in the Planes.
Thanks!
And sorry for my bad english :-)
There's no issues with hand-baggage inside the cabin, it's how most GoPro employees are carrying them around now from my chats with them.