This freaking awesome. I have a GMT900 sierra 1500 and started pondering a Sas 2wd-4wd conversion (came from the jeep world) and my first thought was the Dodge D44
@randyhernandez1590 I think you've got that term mixed up somehow. Crossover steering is when the drag link crosses over from the drivers side to the passenger side knuckle. Crossover is the ONLY way this works. You usually only heard that term in the square body Chevy trucks. The K- series trucks from the factory ran a longitudinal front-to- back drag link. That design inherently needed the drag link to be short (right around 15") and it hurt flex and was difficult to lift. So the popular modification was to go "crossover steering" which converted to a standard style drag link. It required a different steering box etc. That doesn't apply in this case.
I'm glad this conversion is getting traction. Seems like a straightforward swap. Do you plan on doing one just like this as far as in depth for the 8 lug? I know you have some other videos on that subject
You sir just earned a sub. Question: can this kit be installed on a 2wd 2500 Suburban? Ive got a line on a few 8.1 equipped 2500 Suburbans, but none are 4wd. Will the GM 8 lug unit bearing install on that Dodge solid axle?
Glad to gain a sub, hope I gain a customer too I did videos about that This first one and the follow up to it are about the ABS on the 8 lug trucks ruclips.net/video/rEiCccZ-I6g/видео.htmlsi=Kp10qKkVO2Ph8zMq The follow up to that video: ruclips.net/video/GUXwjDYikDM/видео.htmlsi=helUosMATSGB2jBb And this video is about the subtle differences in how you'll do the swap on a 2500 frame truck: ruclips.net/video/9F55BcMXgqo/видео.htmlsi=SzCkNeL6yqaQ0qSa And this video shows the swap completed on a 2wd suburban, but it was a 1500: ruclips.net/video/BHxa-afRemg/видео.htmlsi=DIYOsS587imWeQ6Y and this video discusses transfer cases and also touches on transfer cases for 2wd to 4wd swaps ruclips.net/video/I9vOssr8h7Q/видео.htmlsi=6hFqqFtxjKB7r32e And this link is to the axle swap parts, scroll down to the 8 lug parts, since you have an 8 lug truck tahoverlanding.com/solid-axle-swap-parts
How much travel do you get out this? I already have deleted the torsion bars off of my 06 Silverado and done an overlanding build with it. Kinda wanting to play around with a long travel kit, but this also has my interest
To answer your question, with the standard Tahoverlanding build, using factory dodge front springs. At the bump stops, it's right around 4-1/2 up, and 4-1/2 down But that gets magnified at the wheel. You should watch this one: ruclips.net/video/xreLdMWw8K8/видео.htmlsi=_QQwmpaVkd6THULl And then this one: ruclips.net/video/xreLdMWw8K8/видео.htmlsi=_QQwmpaVkd6THULl And then this one: ruclips.net/video/DQgN72RGEUg/видео.htmlsi=dZEHuaTwxYmGY1Ju Travel isn't the only part of the equation. IFS travels in a different way Than a solid axle will, that third link illustrates that at 2 : 30 The Solid axle also gives a huge variety of lockers and limited slip units. Whereas there is next to nothing available for the GM IFS As well as solid axle gives you component strength that even top tier IFS components can't match You can build yours in a few ways, and so can get even more travel out of it. But there are a lot more factors that we also encourage you to consider. Rather than blindly pursuing travel alone if that makes sense
That platform is essentially the same as a GMT900 except, the 6 lugs often came with an electric rack and pinion. Our add-a- steering box kit can be used to retrofit the necessary steering box for a solid axle. But the system has errors without the electric steering in place The steering box kit ruclips.net/video/fiNGdqJYYec/видео.htmlsi=De7yZI2c317sx0F-
@@tahoverlanding I recently got a 2wd super low miles one owner and looking at going this route sourcing all the parts and then seeing how I’m gonna tackle It
I have a gmt900 tahoe which have a steering rack, any thoughts on the best way around that? The gmt900 HD trucks still used a steering box, I wonder how hard that would be
See this 2 minute video about GMT900 Swaps: ruclips.net/video/GeOUhZaHI1Y/видео.htmlsi=_-2jYW44ViZ1Jh96 We use the gmt800 steering box, and shaft, with gmt800 lines. When you do your swap, I'll give you the measurements on where to mount the box, and how to orient it. Go to @tahoverlanding on Instagram, I posted a post about this literally today
@tsstarlin it can be drilled for additional expense. But it's a total waste. It gains you nothing The only reason you've seen track bars come adjustable is so they can be sold to a wide variety of vehicles and heights When building your own, there's no reason to have any adjustability. And doing so only introduces weakness, and expense, both in initial purchase expense. And future parts replacement expense. But if it's something you really want, it's available
@@tahoverlanding I have been debating on doing a long travel suspension on my 2006 Silverado, but I’ve recently changed my focus to SAS. I think it fits what I’m trying to do better and the environment that I live in. I have debated on going the 1 ton route. What do you recommend? I live in Southeast GA and I’m wanting to convert the bed of my truck into a camper.
@tsstarlin the vast majority of individuals don't need 1 ton axles. We do offer one ton kits if needed. But the largest strength is gained by going solid axle over factory IFS. The rest is small amounts of strength gained by bigger axles. But the dana 44 we use in our 6 lug kits gets almost 2" more upward travel, and 1.5" better underside clearance Than the one ton axle can get. It's your call. But unless you're adding a 3,000lb slip in camper I would go with the dana 44. And our bolt on rear full float conversion kit. If you ever needed to go to one ton, the axle can be installed in place of the D44 interchangeably so no additional work if you ever need to go bigger axle But by staying 6 lug, you'll have better travel, better underside clearance, and will save money on purchasing new wheels and converting the rear axle to 8 lug to match
Over on Instagram I have a short video from a couple years ago where I pulled one on the lift to check out swapping. I found just how different of an animal it is. I developed parts to make a Jeep front axle have the trailblazer 6 lug, and ABS sensors. But never got past that point
@tahoverlanding are they productions part available? I would like to have 6 lugs pattern from the full size trucks for more wheels options. And to do an LS swap..
This requires using the dodge brake caliper? I have upgraded my brakes to a 2021 4 piston caliper and rotor from an escalade. Id hate to lose my sweet brakes :/
I have machined adapter plates for the 2020+ GM caliper. But it's such a low demand thing, I don't list it on the site. Buying those calipers Even used off ebay is usually pretty expensive. So it's a really low demand thing
This swap is designed primarily for 1/2 ton GMT800 trucks and SUVs. That's what it works best on 👍 Here's a video showing it on various 1500 gmt800s pickups and SUVs ruclips.net/video/BHxa-afRemg/видео.htmlsi=q9ItvFjh0VjUq-F3
@zacharycampbell8553 FORD super duty axles come with MANY downsides. The TAHOVERLANDING swap is specifically designed to avoid those downsides including the worse off road performance those axles achieve. I don't know of a kit for 05+ SD axles specifically for the 1500 platform that the Tahoe is. WFO concepts can scab a kit together using parts from their 2500 kit I think I have multiple customers with the 1500 SUVs and 2005+ Super Duty axles who have contacted me in writing to tell me that they regret it and wish they went this route I encourage you to maybe reconsider your axle choices If not, like I mentioned WFO has been known to piece together something on 1500 platforms
@zacharycampbell8553 the #tahoverlandingaxleswap that we offer is much easier than the putting 2005+ SD axles in. See here, how easy it was for this totally inexperienced person to install: ruclips.net/user/shortsBiTZD3lTp7U?si=AYdRRSDObrTCcPqS A lot of the ease is in the axle selection itself. The axles we use do not require modifications to the existing axle brackets. If you use our kit, You will use the axle as it is Whereas the SD axles require extensive cutting and re-welding of the brackets before it can be used The Ford SD axle requires you to change out your rear axle to match the 8 lug. Since you have the 4 link with panhard rear suspension, all of those brackets need to be precisely added to the new axle. There is no kit to do this, so you'll be extensively fabricating the rear suspension just to make the front work. Plus you'll be forced into purchasing new 8 lug wheels. Then, the Ford axle uses a 60tooth ABS sensor tone ring, Your system needs a 55 tooth. So once you've spliced the wires, your ABS system will never work properly Our kit with the correct axle has none of these issues. Since you won't be dealing with those issues, the Tahoverlanding swap is many times over again easier to perform than a Ford SD swap Plus the Ford axle hangs 2" lower hurting off road performance. The Ford axle, due to its size and shape has 4" less upward travel, hurting off road performance The Ford axle not having as much upward travel, requires a higher ride height. Higher center of gravity hurts off road performance We've put a lot of engineering into this kit. I promise you it's the best route to go tahoverlanding.com/1999-2006-gmt800 This is another good short video to watch on the issue: ruclips.net/video/_KlGzMNGhjo/видео.htmlsi=U1m-3w6UYzJHYBJn
It is shown in the way the caliper mounts to the knuckle, The 2000-2001 have caliper mounting/ bracket that looks like this: ruclips.net/video/kC1JzLY6gjo/видео.htmlsi=gMrl0jk9cJT-I8a5 And the incorrect knuckles from 1994-1999 look like what you see at 7 : 28 here: ruclips.net/video/9F55BcMXgqo/видео.htmlsi=k9HcFHpzz6iN8YUi
The 8 lug trucks can use a wider range of years/ models of dodge axle as well. You just the the 8 lug parts bundle in this link rather than the 6 lug parts bundle shown in this video: tahoverlanding.com/solid-axle-swap-parts
Yes, we have a kit for GMT400 and this is GMT400 specific: ruclips.net/p/PL02c8oGOVVEUSBTZ09gF7lLM5hrs44UVc&si=PQJwLvcaCzF0bjys We also offer the frame plates, and complete crossmember for the gmt400 Here's the site: tahoverlanding.com/1988-1998-gmt400
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Saving my pennies. Thanks for doing all the hard work.
I hope those pennies add up soon so you're not waiting too much longer 👍
This freaking awesome. I have a GMT900 sierra 1500 and started pondering a Sas 2wd-4wd conversion (came from the jeep world) and my first thought was the Dodge D44
The GMT900 also needs a steering box installed. We offer the kit to do that
tahoverlanding.com/2007-2014-gmt900
More GMT900
ruclips.net/video/GeOUhZaHI1Y/видео.htmlsi=71eXxPKDPM3JPyai
Awesome video! Super in depth
Thank you 👍
Your the best ! Thanks for sharing all this detailed info , greatly appreciated
Question can this set up be ran with crossover steering
@randyhernandez1590
I think you've got that term mixed up somehow.
Crossover steering is when the drag link crosses over from the drivers side to the passenger side knuckle.
Crossover is the ONLY way this works.
You usually only heard that term in the square body Chevy trucks. The K- series trucks from the factory ran a longitudinal front-to- back drag link. That design inherently needed the drag link to be short (right around 15") and it hurt flex and was difficult to lift.
So the popular modification was to go "crossover steering" which converted to a standard style drag link. It required a different steering box etc.
That doesn't apply in this case.
Awesome video! Looking forward to getting this!
Reach out at Tahoverlanding.com we can get you taken care of 👍
What axle did you use for the rear? Or did you keep the rear chevy axle
I'm glad this conversion is getting traction. Seems like a straightforward swap. Do you plan on doing one just like this as far as in depth for the 8 lug? I know you have some other videos on that subject
I bought an 8 lug suburban to swap.
But I've been too busy with customer installs and jobs to do my own swap to document
At some point I will
You sir just earned a sub.
Question: can this kit be installed on a 2wd 2500 Suburban? Ive got a line on a few 8.1 equipped 2500 Suburbans, but none are 4wd.
Will the GM 8 lug unit bearing install on that Dodge solid axle?
Glad to gain a sub, hope I gain a customer too
I did videos about that
This first one and the follow up to it are about the ABS on the 8 lug trucks
ruclips.net/video/rEiCccZ-I6g/видео.htmlsi=Kp10qKkVO2Ph8zMq
The follow up to that video:
ruclips.net/video/GUXwjDYikDM/видео.htmlsi=helUosMATSGB2jBb
And this video is about the subtle differences in how you'll do the swap on a 2500 frame truck:
ruclips.net/video/9F55BcMXgqo/видео.htmlsi=SzCkNeL6yqaQ0qSa
And this video shows the swap completed on a 2wd suburban, but it was a 1500:
ruclips.net/video/BHxa-afRemg/видео.htmlsi=DIYOsS587imWeQ6Y
and this video discusses transfer cases and also touches on transfer cases for 2wd to 4wd swaps
ruclips.net/video/I9vOssr8h7Q/видео.htmlsi=6hFqqFtxjKB7r32e
And this link is to the axle swap parts, scroll down to the 8 lug parts, since you have an 8 lug truck
tahoverlanding.com/solid-axle-swap-parts
How much travel do you get out this? I already have deleted the torsion bars off of my 06 Silverado and done an overlanding build with it. Kinda wanting to play around with a long travel kit, but this also has my interest
To answer your question, with the standard Tahoverlanding build, using factory dodge front springs. At the bump stops, it's right around 4-1/2 up, and 4-1/2 down
But that gets magnified at the wheel.
You should watch this one:
ruclips.net/video/xreLdMWw8K8/видео.htmlsi=_QQwmpaVkd6THULl
And then this one:
ruclips.net/video/xreLdMWw8K8/видео.htmlsi=_QQwmpaVkd6THULl
And then this one:
ruclips.net/video/DQgN72RGEUg/видео.htmlsi=dZEHuaTwxYmGY1Ju
Travel isn't the only part of the equation. IFS travels in a different way Than a solid axle will, that third link illustrates that at 2 : 30
The Solid axle also gives a huge variety of lockers and limited slip units. Whereas there is next to nothing available for the GM IFS
As well as solid axle gives you component strength that even top tier IFS components can't match
You can build yours in a few ways, and so can get even more travel out of it. But there are a lot more factors that we also encourage you to consider. Rather than blindly pursuing travel alone if that makes sense
@@tahoverlanding I already have an ox locker for the rear and was thinking on going with ox again if I did the SAS.
With a 2nd gen ram dana 44 swapped into in a 2nd gen Tahoe or Yukon with the stock wheels how much wider would the front track width be over stock?
@@Tbolt1000TForLife ruclips.net/user/shortsWFg_DSNdVaQ?si=NUSzfGoW_VEG0tMF
Great video are you guys working on a It for the GMTK2UC/G, I need one
That platform is essentially the same as a GMT900 except, the 6 lugs often came with an electric rack and pinion.
Our add-a- steering box kit can be used to retrofit the necessary steering box for a solid axle. But the system has errors without the electric steering in place
The steering box kit
ruclips.net/video/fiNGdqJYYec/видео.htmlsi=De7yZI2c317sx0F-
@@tahoverlanding you just made my life easier thank you
@@thatguysadventure4298 you're welcome, check this one out too:
ruclips.net/video/GeOUhZaHI1Y/видео.htmlsi=nQGWMqG1PVaBPJGZ
@@tahoverlanding I recently got a 2wd super low miles one owner and looking at going this route sourcing all the parts and then seeing how I’m gonna tackle It
I have a gmt900 tahoe which have a steering rack, any thoughts on the best way around that? The gmt900 HD trucks still used a steering box, I wonder how hard that would be
See this 2 minute video about GMT900 Swaps:
ruclips.net/video/GeOUhZaHI1Y/видео.htmlsi=_-2jYW44ViZ1Jh96
We use the gmt800 steering box, and shaft, with gmt800 lines. When you do your swap, I'll give you the measurements on where to mount the box, and how to orient it.
Go to @tahoverlanding on Instagram, I posted a post about this literally today
@@tahoverlanding great info thanks dude
I’ve got to get you a better picture to use. Although it’s in the driveway where it can be built
Dozens of sets sold, nobody sends pictures lol
Can the track bar be ordered how you have the one in the video setup?
@tsstarlin it can be drilled for additional expense. But it's a total waste. It gains you nothing
The only reason you've seen track bars come adjustable is so they can be sold to a wide variety of vehicles and heights
When building your own, there's no reason to have any adjustability. And doing so only introduces weakness, and expense, both in initial purchase expense. And future parts replacement expense.
But if it's something you really want, it's available
@@tahoverlanding I have been debating on doing a long travel suspension on my 2006 Silverado, but I’ve recently changed my focus to SAS. I think it fits what I’m trying to do better and the environment that I live in. I have debated on going the 1 ton route. What do you recommend? I live in Southeast GA and I’m wanting to convert the bed of my truck into a camper.
@tsstarlin the vast majority of individuals don't need 1 ton axles. We do offer one ton kits if needed.
But the largest strength is gained by going solid axle over factory IFS. The rest is small amounts of strength gained by bigger axles. But the dana 44 we use in our 6 lug kits gets almost 2" more upward travel, and 1.5" better underside clearance Than the one ton axle can get.
It's your call. But unless you're adding a 3,000lb slip in camper I would go with the dana 44. And our bolt on rear full float conversion kit.
If you ever needed to go to one ton, the axle can be installed in place of the D44 interchangeably so no additional work if you ever need to go bigger axle
But by staying 6 lug, you'll have better travel, better underside clearance, and will save money on purchasing new wheels and converting the rear axle to 8 lug to match
Question, would this work with the Chevy Trailblazer EXT? If no so you have something that would?
@@BigMike73731 sadly, no Trailblazer fitment
That's an entirely different animal
Over on Instagram I have a short video from a couple years ago where I pulled one on the lift to check out swapping.
I found just how different of an animal it is.
I developed parts to make a Jeep front axle have the trailblazer 6 lug, and ABS sensors. But never got past that point
@tahoverlanding are they productions part available? I would like to have 6 lugs pattern from the full size trucks for more wheels options. And to do an LS swap..
Would this kit work on a 2001 Chevy Silverado 2500hd
Yes. There are just a couple of differences. Message me over on Tahoverlanding.com or on Instagram and I can send you videos about that
This requires using the dodge brake caliper? I have upgraded my brakes to a 2021 4 piston caliper and rotor from an escalade. Id hate to lose my sweet brakes :/
I have machined adapter plates for the 2020+ GM caliper. But it's such a low demand thing, I don't list it on the site. Buying those calipers Even used off ebay is usually pretty expensive. So it's a really low demand thing
I know it’s old but will this work with the gmt800 1500 trucks?
This swap is designed primarily for 1/2 ton GMT800 trucks and SUVs. That's what it works best on 👍
Here's a video showing it on various 1500 gmt800s pickups and SUVs
ruclips.net/video/BHxa-afRemg/видео.htmlsi=q9ItvFjh0VjUq-F3
Do you know of any company that makes a kit to solid axle swap a 2001 Chevy Tahoe? Donor axles would most likely be 05+ Superduty axles.
@zacharycampbell8553 FORD super duty axles come with MANY downsides. The TAHOVERLANDING swap is specifically designed to avoid those downsides including the worse off road performance those axles achieve.
I don't know of a kit for 05+ SD axles specifically for the 1500 platform that the Tahoe is. WFO concepts can scab a kit together using parts from their 2500 kit I think
I have multiple customers with the 1500 SUVs and 2005+ Super Duty axles who have contacted me in writing to tell me that they regret it and wish they went this route
I encourage you to maybe reconsider your axle choices
If not, like I mentioned WFO has been known to piece together something on 1500 platforms
@@tahoverlanding what do you suggest for the swap? What is the easiest setup to do?
@@tahoverlanding What would you suggest for the best kit? What would be the easiest to do?
@zacharycampbell8553 the #tahoverlandingaxleswap that we offer is much easier than the putting 2005+ SD axles in.
See here, how easy it was for this totally inexperienced person to install:
ruclips.net/user/shortsBiTZD3lTp7U?si=AYdRRSDObrTCcPqS
A lot of the ease is in the axle selection itself.
The axles we use do not require modifications to the existing axle brackets. If you use our kit, You will use the axle as it is
Whereas the SD axles require extensive cutting and re-welding of the brackets before it can be used
The Ford SD axle requires you to change out your rear axle to match the 8 lug.
Since you have the 4 link with panhard rear suspension, all of those brackets need to be precisely added to the new axle. There is no kit to do this, so you'll be extensively fabricating the rear suspension just to make the front work.
Plus you'll be forced into purchasing new 8 lug wheels.
Then, the Ford axle uses a 60tooth ABS sensor tone ring, Your system needs a 55 tooth. So once you've spliced the wires, your ABS system will never work properly
Our kit with the correct axle has none of these issues.
Since you won't be dealing with those issues, the Tahoverlanding swap is many times over again easier to perform than a Ford SD swap
Plus the Ford axle hangs 2" lower hurting off road performance.
The Ford axle, due to its size and shape has 4" less upward travel, hurting off road performance
The Ford axle not having as much upward travel, requires a higher ride height. Higher center of gravity hurts off road performance
We've put a lot of engineering into this kit. I promise you it's the best route to go
tahoverlanding.com/1999-2006-gmt800
This is another good short video to watch on the issue:
ruclips.net/video/_KlGzMNGhjo/видео.htmlsi=U1m-3w6UYzJHYBJn
@@tahoverlanding This kit seems absolutely perfect! What would be the estimated cost for doing this swap?
How can you tell what year the axle is.
It is shown in the way the caliper mounts to the knuckle,
The 2000-2001 have caliper mounting/ bracket that looks like this:
ruclips.net/video/kC1JzLY6gjo/видео.htmlsi=gMrl0jk9cJT-I8a5
And the incorrect knuckles from 1994-1999 look like what you see at 7 : 28 here:
ruclips.net/video/9F55BcMXgqo/видео.htmlsi=k9HcFHpzz6iN8YUi
Does this work on 3/4 ton trucks ?
Yes, watch this video explaining that
ruclips.net/video/9F55BcMXgqo/видео.htmlsi=khmCCZisXwHRfmnh
Would this kit work for my 1994 gmt 400 k2500?
Yes, it would.
Here are a couple videos about it.
ruclips.net/video/9F55BcMXgqo/видео.html
And:
ruclips.net/video/rEiCccZ-I6g/видео.html
The 8 lug trucks can use a wider range of years/ models of dodge axle as well.
You just the the 8 lug parts bundle in this link rather than the 6 lug parts bundle shown in this video:
tahoverlanding.com/solid-axle-swap-parts
Will this work on GMT 400 trucks?
Yes it will, you need to use the larger gmt800 brake rotor though.
Thanks
@davkenrem no problem, feel free to contact me at Tahoverlanding.com and we can go into further detail
Would this work on a gmt400 k3500 454?
Yes, we have a kit for GMT400 and this is GMT400 specific:
ruclips.net/p/PL02c8oGOVVEUSBTZ09gF7lLM5hrs44UVc&si=PQJwLvcaCzF0bjys
We also offer the frame plates, and complete crossmember for the gmt400
Here's the site:
tahoverlanding.com/1988-1998-gmt400