i bought the Saab 35fs right away, after playing 50 matches (before new br changes, f-16 and mig-29 were at 11.7) , i only got fully up-tiered 2 times, and this thing, was and still is a BEAST. feel free to argue in the replies, i think the Saab 35fs is probably one of the top 5 planes in the game (relative to top tier br)
She no longer is called J35XS btw (X standing for Export and S for Suomi (meaning Finnish), there wouldn't be a - (read dash) either way) but is called Saab 35FS now, just Gaijin things.
@@einar8019 ; "J35FS did not have flare+chaff pod mounted on the auxiliary intake, or the IRST mounted under the nose. They were ex-Swedish J35F1s bought for Finnish use, as the Swedish Air Force were retiring some. The J35XS (J35S is the domestic designation, what it should be named) were special built by Valmet off of J35F2s, which did feature the IRST. Coming into 1993 the flare and chaff pods were mounted on the J35XS, but never the J35FS." As usual just like I said, Gaijin stuff.
On the looking like a Kite. The Swedish name for Kite is Drake. It can be translated to literally mean The Kite. It means both Dragon and Kite. So that was surely intentional naming. (Viggen also has this double meaning of a name)
Great review as always !!. By the way , I want to share you something that never happened to me after years playing WT. I opened 5 apex predators chests , surprisingly got a coupon for the F7F-3 , honestly I was just interested in the camo for the J-7D. I redeemed the vehicle coupon , and the proceeded to disassemble the camos that I got in order to get a chance to unlock the J-7D one .I got a coupon for the heavy tank no 6 . I believe there must be a bug , the probabilities are way to slim . Cheers mate
I’ve been waiting for this review for pretty unique reason. My grandfather was an engineer at SAAB on the Sk60 and J35. Specifically, he worked on the later models. From what I know, my grandfather had a large part in the innovations of the Finnish Draken program. The details are shaky on what he actually did at SAAB (he passed away 4 years ago and never explained much about it to me as a kid), but I do know he had a big part in selling the j35 the Finns. I haven’t bought it yet in game (bc its 70 freaking dollars). But thanks for making a really cool review on such a fascinating aircraft .
I dont know why but I have been seeing this thing IN EVERY SINGLE MATCH IM IN. Am I happy? No. But can I know how to counter it now because of Tims Review?.... : )
Gonna have to agree with expert/ace pilots for any real dogfighting. Things is like a prenerf Cl13b Mk6 and you will spend the entirety of the game blacked out if you don't
nice vid Tim love the detail you go into for the history of these vehicles. Also its a real shame that the 2 good j35's are premium I used the J35A to grind out rank 5 and up for Sweden/Finland so i have no reason to buy the 35FS its a real shame that a high performance draken is 100$ so not worth it for a single jet
@@spray916 I honestly think they should have added rank 7 premiums, the rank 6 ones were Great but now these are taking over. I also agree that the 35fs should be in the tech tree, and either keep the 35a as a premium or make the 35d premium
my kd in this thing is frankly just funny; it's exceptionally strong in downtiers and still workable in uptiers. couple bits of advice: 1) only take flares. it dumps 2 cm at a time, so if you take f+c, you only get 3 drops. you're really gonna miss those extra drops when you need them, so take flares to double it to 6 and just do some good prep work against radar missiles. 2) do not fire the missiles beyond 3km unless you *know* you can hit the shot. the 9J has very low range and its motor won't be able to carry it very far in anything but the most ideal circumstances. 3) it was touched on in the video, but maneuvering in the drakens is never a question of how hard you *can* turn, but rather how hard you *should* turn. you can out-turn basically whatever you want in most speed ranges, so the real decision making goes into how much of that turning you want to use at the cost of your speed. however, if you do run out of speed, you'll still be golden if your opponent is also slow and no one else is around to interfere. the draken can hang with biplanes in the low speed maneuvering space, and that's only a slight exaggeration. overall, very fun plane, very funny against new premium players with low situational awareness and knowledge, recommended for players who at least know their way around the br range.
The fuel criticism towards this plane feels unwarranted to, At max fuel you have more than enough for nearly all engagements and only really on EC maps would you have to be conscious of your fuel usage.
After beeing german 11.3 aur i bought it and whit expirience it is absoulute great to fly and i also want to add that when used correctly the flares are enough for one match
What skins are available for this? I think they changed the name to "SAAB 35FS" recently. Really wish they give this the Sparrow missiles it had, Swedish variant had proximity fuses so would actually be useful in a head on. Great vid though, love your work.
You should have edited some of the stuff with this video especially with the combat tactics part. At 10.7 now after the BR changes that just happened this thing is insane since you NEVER fight F-14s.
it's pretty strange to ask of HUD from plane designed in 1950's but aside of that top video and really sad this draken has no R-13s those would be good for mid range engagements
I have budget of 100bucks a month for games (w/e games) a month. i did treat myself last month, at my birthday. I've owned it for like 3 weeks. I'm about to reach 500kills in roughly 370 matches., iirc. i. love. this. aircraft. also: did you mention premium repair costs, Silverlions and RP Modifier as a bonus? thing costs like 6k to repair, max and has insane (obviously. its gajin) modifiers. ive "accidently" almost ground out the swedesm before viggen i had like up to the JsomethingSomething (tunnan?)
shame the J35D is mid at best like its doing a little better now that its BR was lowered but its still mid most of the time and just defenceless in a full up-tier
It really depends mostly on what vehicles you're most interested in. For my 5 cents, all of the tech trees have good stuff in them and I enjoyed going up through Sweden.
They really changed the flight model lately and made it unbearable compare to before almost as if it got a g-limiter! Gaijin it’s a turn fighter damn it
They did that to everything it feels like 2 weeks ago, I noticed it when my kfir c2 was doing like 20 degrees of AOA and still bleeding way too much speed
Why does gaijn gave to make every swedish plane so unrealistic Like no aim 4 no radar gunsight no more amazing maneuverability why does gaijn hate sweden so much
First off; Love the video, love the channel, and found your weapon and radar guides especially helpful But i couldnt help notice at 1:02 it sounded like you had a stutter, but I've never heard you do it before. Curious is all
I've had some dental work done that occasionally causes minor blips like that. One of the downsides of growing up in abject poverty is that serious dental problems that could have been prevented with braces/etc as a teenager end up being .... expensive, and time-consuming .... to repair in adult life.
@@williewilson2250 Yeah - if at all possible - take care of dental stuff as young/early as you can. It gets exponentially more problematic as you get older.
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@@blueflame6237 the Saab 35XD (designation F-35 in the danish air force) was an export version of the Draken that was modified with 6 hardpoints capable of carrying 1000lbs bombs
My apologies - The Snailgod changed the name of this aircraft right after I was done producing the review - its now called the Saab-35FS.
just a correction, it won't face F-16/Mig-29 in uptiers..."just" F-14's! 🤕
@@psycho_chicken_9589 Yeah they loooooove to make little changes like that 5 seconds after I'm done producing a vid....
@@TimsVariety gaijin doing snail things !
Did the Snail change anything else, than the name?
@@NuubiTuubi1000 AFAIK no, the specs/features all look the same.
Love your different take to plane reviews than other people feel like I’m actually learning stuff about the plane keep up the good work
i bought the Saab 35fs right away, after playing 50 matches (before new br changes, f-16 and mig-29 were at 11.7) , i only got fully up-tiered 2 times, and this thing, was and still is a BEAST. feel free to argue in the replies, i think the Saab 35fs is probably one of the top 5 planes in the game (relative to top tier br)
I also bought it (after hitting the f.104 german version ) and this thing is op im macking 3-4 kills every round and its just great
I thought F16/Mig29 where now BR12 which means this 10.7 would never face those planes.
This video was made before the BR change
^^ what he said. Which makes this plane a lot better.
This channel is 10/10 but he's super unlucky with his timing. Not kidding
@SCATXXIV Very true. Not really his fault tho lol.
@@SCATXXIV It's Gaijin's ability to screw over people who make informative videos like him.
She no longer is called J35XS btw (X standing for Export and S for Suomi (meaning Finnish), there wouldn't be a - (read dash) either way) but is called Saab 35FS now, just Gaijin things.
its basically the same thing but instead of being saab's designation its the finnish airforce designation
@@einar8019 ; "J35FS did not have flare+chaff pod mounted on the auxiliary intake, or the IRST mounted under the nose. They were ex-Swedish J35F1s bought for Finnish use, as the Swedish Air Force were retiring some.
The J35XS (J35S is the domestic designation, what it should be named) were special built by Valmet off of J35F2s, which did feature the IRST. Coming into 1993 the flare and chaff pods were mounted on the J35XS, but never the J35FS." As usual just like I said, Gaijin stuff.
On the looking like a Kite. The Swedish name for Kite is Drake. It can be translated to literally mean The Kite. It means both Dragon and Kite. So that was surely intentional naming. (Viggen also has this double meaning of a name)
Reviews always very well done and complete.
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Great review as always !!. By the way , I want to share you something that never happened to me after years playing WT. I opened 5 apex predators chests , surprisingly got a coupon for the F7F-3 , honestly I was just interested in the camo for the J-7D. I redeemed the vehicle coupon , and the proceeded to disassemble the camos that I got in order to get a chance to unlock the J-7D one .I got a coupon for the heavy tank no 6 . I believe there must be a bug , the probabilities are way to slim .
Cheers mate
Great review, I really liked the little UFO edit
I’ve been waiting for this review for pretty unique reason. My grandfather was an engineer at SAAB on the Sk60 and J35. Specifically, he worked on the later models. From what I know, my grandfather had a large part in the innovations of the Finnish Draken program. The details are shaky on what he actually did at SAAB (he passed away 4 years ago and never explained much about it to me as a kid), but I do know he had a big part in selling the j35 the Finns. I haven’t bought it yet in game (bc its 70 freaking dollars). But thanks for making a really cool review on such a fascinating aircraft .
tim, like always the content is fantastic! you've really made the last 9 months better for me
I dont know why but I have been seeing this thing IN EVERY SINGLE MATCH IM IN. Am I happy? No. But can I know how to counter it now because of Tims Review?.... : )
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Gonna have to agree with expert/ace pilots for any real dogfighting. Things is like a prenerf Cl13b Mk6 and you will spend the entirety of the game blacked out if you don't
One of the loveliest fighter jets to ever grace the skies.
Dope review as always
nice vid Tim love the detail you go into for the history of these vehicles. Also its a real shame that the 2 good j35's are premium I used the J35A to grind out rank 5 and up for Sweden/Finland so i have no reason to buy the 35FS its a real shame that a high performance draken is 100$ so not worth it for a single jet
J-35D is decent now. J-35A is not very good as it requires time to get kills that you do not have. Still, J-35XS should've been tech tree.
@@spray916 I honestly think they should have added rank 7 premiums, the rank 6 ones were Great but now these are taking over.
I also agree that the 35fs should be in the tech tree, and either keep the 35a as a premium or make the 35d premium
@@spray916 nah the J-35A is pretty good most things you fight dont know how to deal with you and yea i wish the FS was TT
@@Cryo_Cake Its not??? It has no flares at 9.7. 🤡
@@spray916 dont need em if the players that have 9L's are brain dead and even then when you can turn that hard you rarely need CM at that low of a BR
It should also be noted that trying to pull past stall speed often causes the plane to enter an unrecoverable flat spin
my kd in this thing is frankly just funny; it's exceptionally strong in downtiers and still workable in uptiers. couple bits of advice: 1) only take flares. it dumps 2 cm at a time, so if you take f+c, you only get 3 drops. you're really gonna miss those extra drops when you need them, so take flares to double it to 6 and just do some good prep work against radar missiles. 2) do not fire the missiles beyond 3km unless you *know* you can hit the shot. the 9J has very low range and its motor won't be able to carry it very far in anything but the most ideal circumstances. 3) it was touched on in the video, but maneuvering in the drakens is never a question of how hard you *can* turn, but rather how hard you *should* turn. you can out-turn basically whatever you want in most speed ranges, so the real decision making goes into how much of that turning you want to use at the cost of your speed. however, if you do run out of speed, you'll still be golden if your opponent is also slow and no one else is around to interfere. the draken can hang with biplanes in the low speed maneuvering space, and that's only a slight exaggeration. overall, very fun plane, very funny against new premium players with low situational awareness and knowledge, recommended for players who at least know their way around the br range.
I have this jet with a completely maxed out pilot and it is so fun it's one of my favourite jets in the game🖤
Its really sad two of the three drakens are premium :c
No longer has to fight f16s but still gotta worry about fighting f14s in an up tier
The fuel criticism towards this plane feels unwarranted to, At max fuel you have more than enough for nearly all engagements and only really on EC maps would you have to be conscious of your fuel usage.
After beeing german 11.3 aur i bought it and whit expirience it is absoulute great to fly and i also want to add that when used correctly the flares are enough for one match
No point being maneuverable if you don't know how to dogfight, yestarday absolutely demolished a XS in a extended dogfight in a A5
What skins are available for this?
I think they changed the name to "SAAB 35FS" recently.
Really wish they give this the Sparrow missiles it had, Swedish variant had proximity fuses so would actually be useful in a head on.
Great vid though, love your work.
if you find any skins for this, pls let me know, fellow Sweden main.
You should have edited some of the stuff with this video especially with the combat tactics part. At 10.7 now after the BR changes that just happened this thing is insane since you NEVER fight F-14s.
common tims variety w
9:18 this is what drake means in swedish, also dragon but kite is the one this is based on by looks
it's pretty strange to ask of HUD from plane designed in 1950's
but aside of that top video
and really sad this draken has no R-13s those would be good for mid range engagements
It's not that thirsty, it's just the fuel tank is the size of a pipette.
love the vid, would you recommend this plane or the kifir canard as a premium to grind out a tree. Keep up the great videos!
I have a dedicated vid up about how to choose a premium.
I've always wondered, why does the nose of the Saab 35 bounce like that on landing?
Homie turns into a legit savage @ 2.00ish 😂
I have budget of 100bucks a month for games (w/e games) a month. i did treat myself last month, at my birthday. I've owned it for like 3 weeks. I'm about to reach 500kills in roughly 370 matches., iirc.
i. love. this. aircraft. also: did you mention premium repair costs, Silverlions and RP Modifier as a bonus? thing costs like 6k to repair, max and has insane (obviously. its gajin) modifiers. ive "accidently" almost ground out the swedesm before viggen i had like up to the JsomethingSomething (tunnan?)
Is the background music in this video the normal BM in War Thunder air rb. I don’t play with them on so I can’t tell…
Yes
@@TimsVariety Thank you.
It got renamed to Saab 35 Now
When’d they change the j35 flight model again?
Personally I think it’s not worth it, it’s cockpit is copy paste from the j35D and so is it’s paint. Just get the j35D.
Also good job Tim keep it up bro!
shame the J35D is mid at best like its doing a little better now that its BR was lowered but its still mid most of the time and just defenceless in a full up-tier
@@Cryo_Cake agreed
I guess the "BS" model was not very good
In case anyone is watching this because of the current pack sale, the XS can no longer be uptiered into f16s and mig29s
F-104 or Kfir next?
Why does it not get the all the missiles you mentioned. Why does gaijn always downgrade swedish planes 😔
I'm a new player (F2P), I started with tech tree sweden, I'm in rank II, should I continue, or advise to look for another tech tree?
It really depends mostly on what vehicles you're most interested in. For my 5 cents, all of the tech trees have good stuff in them and I enjoyed going up through Sweden.
@@TimsVariety Everyone from rank V and above looks interesting. However, I saw your video about SK and Saab, and they look expensive to maintain.
is this the old j35xs?
Suh dude 🤙
what is the point of using the radar at all?
i bought it, flew it for like 2 trips, and moved on,,, i pay the snail to make me suffer! (plz kill me)
They really changed the flight model lately and made it unbearable compare to before almost as if it got a g-limiter!
Gaijin it’s a turn fighter damn it
They did that to everything it feels like 2 weeks ago, I noticed it when my kfir c2 was doing like 20 degrees of AOA and still bleeding way too much speed
I bought it so I could grind the ja37D without having to finish the Finnish line ha ha
19 seconds lmao
Why does gaijn gave to make every swedish plane so unrealistic Like no aim 4 no radar gunsight no more amazing maneuverability why does gaijn hate sweden so much
Cool plane but nothing in this game is worth 70 dollars
First off; Love the video, love the channel, and found your weapon and radar guides especially helpful
But i couldnt help notice at 1:02 it sounded like you had a stutter, but I've never heard you do it before. Curious is all
I've had some dental work done that occasionally causes minor blips like that. One of the downsides of growing up in abject poverty is that serious dental problems that could have been prevented with braces/etc as a teenager end up being .... expensive, and time-consuming .... to repair in adult life.
@@TimsVariety damn that sucks, I think I might get braces or Invisalign now at 17
@@williewilson2250 Yeah - if at all possible - take care of dental stuff as young/early as you can. It gets exponentially more problematic as you get older.
@@TimsVariety your healthcare doesn't cover dental work? Sorry you had to go through that financial burden, bro
This is a paper airplane
Only reason I don’t like it
maaan i dont care what it was in real live... tell me how it performs ingame and over ..... wtf
Hence the timestamps.....
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They should have added the Danish Fighter-bomber F-35 with 6 hardpoints for 1000lbs bombs
lmao what
@@blueflame6237 the Saab 35XD (designation F-35 in the danish air force) was an export version of the Draken that was modified with 6 hardpoints capable of carrying 1000lbs bombs
they broke the FM and limited its AOA so drakens can't UFO turn NEARLY as well anymore 🥲