its a big factor why they end up losing in the end tbh. The germans lost almost all of their best equipment to take on the soviets garbage equipment. By the time the front stalls the germans are too tired and stretched too thin, and without the momentum to really push any further, and eventually get rolled back to germany proper by 43
@@Luxia-f1e The Soviet armies were destroyed by the early stages of the war. The Soviets had to form entirely new forces from the scratch, partly with western help.
@@herptek somewhat true, they lost a huge amount of men for sure, but they also had millions of trained reserves as well greatly helped by the fact they released many of the generals, cpts, and other ranks of commanders held by stalins idiotic purge tbh stalin’s idiocy probably got another 10 million people killed over the war from things like his insistence on trying to negotiate for several days but it does not change the fact that the nazis routinely valued short term gains with their bliztkrieg vs long term stability they had wrongly assumed the russian military and political structure would give up (and maybe it wouldve if they hadnt been genocidal maniacs killing slavs along the way)
@@diidac17t's not a communist tactic. It's the tactics of a technologically inferior military. When you have numbers just keep throwing them at the impossible to reach enemy until you run out of if manpower or they hopefully run out of bullets. That's why in any strategy you want to prioritize technology first. The F-22 is the best fighter in my opinion, but it doesn't even come close to the importance of the latest computing chips.
@@diidac17 I seriously hate this myth about the Red Army in WWII. German generals writing memoirs claimed this post-war to excuse their bad tactical decision making and try and deny that the Soviets beat the "ethnically superior" German army via strategic planning and well-planned applications of force. There were no "one man has a rifle, one man has the ammunition" mass assault charges aside from the most desperate of sieges.
@@german-americanmapping6766 yeah dude, the Germans were less tactical and smart... that's why the Soviets had the highest number of casualties in WW2... YEAH. Communist were and are evil. I am sure the commie government just didn't give a fk about sending soldiers to die massively. Just think about it. You send soldiers to die, you make them commie heroes in order to spread the commie propaganda PLUS you have less mouths to maintain when the war ends. They are just evil. The only political ideology that is literally the devil on earth.
The main thing that helped Soviets is basically them having infinite resources and support from the allies and huge troops number. Without resources it is game over. Soviets also fought only against Germany. The west was doing all the work against german colonies all over the world and against Japan . Also Soviets was so lucky to have the winter ❄️ and was prepared for it.
They had them the whole war. The victory belong to the west and not the Soviets. West was smart playing chess and knowing what they are doing. They let the Soviets to take the losses.
Losses of people during the years of World War 2 for all reasons: -USSR: from 29 to 37 million people; -"Axis countries" (3 Reich and its allies): from 12 to 18 million; -USA and UK: about 1-1,2 million.
@@Roo978roo the soviets did most of the heavy lifting in this war, if they were weak the initial offensive was enough to collapse the union altogether.
@Tobias Guldberg not sure why not, they were like this like always also it work pretty well since it was not even a professional army Just random 16-18yo putted to die for their country without weapon xD almost same as nowdays
@@empty7038 I do mind it, millions of father's and sons of families forced out of their homes, and than getting killed. There is nothing good about a bad country losing their man, because those man often deserved their deaths the least. But for both sides if they deserted and were found, they were tortured and Murderered a lot of times on display not only that, but oftenly the family they have, the family they fight for would also get the same or similar punishment. A fate way worse than dying in battle, it was more of a serving to save you and your family than support your country and its war. That's the tragic truth of these man. As a wise man once said "The ones who get hurt the most, often deserve it the least."
@@yourlocalchannel6904 and then there is Poland, literally destroyed by both nazi and soviets because somebody did order them to do that? I mean stealing killing, raping civilians? You see it as bad leader doing bad things and making their hands dirty but many soldiers did enjoy doing it that way. Well if we talk about conflict that is happening now russian ppl at the begginig were doing same thing they were doing during ww2 why would I mind if this kind of dog lose his life xD
@@F.R.E.D.D2986 ahahah, LOL, Total losses of the USSR(with the civilian population)The human losses of the Soviet Union in the Great Patriotic War amounted to 26.6 million people . This figure was first published in rounded form ("almost 27 million people") at a meeting of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on May 8, 1990. BRO, WTF 1million?? nazy also used concentration camp, you know that Russian soldiers, civilians died there no less than Jews???
@@raze20 In Operation BARBOROSSA, a million soliders were killed, the rest were wound or captured, you're talking about civilians, also, i'm not taking into account with the prison deaths, as about half by 1942, (roughly 1.5-2 million in total) would be dead. I'm talking Barbarossa and only Barbarossa.
In fact, this is far from the case, my friend. Far from it. Since the end of 1944, the Germans could no longer count on any success in the war. The Red Army had already crushed the Wehrmacht by the end of 1944. At the same time, having become less to lose, plus or minus by the beginning of 1943.
@@faithnight9572Funny thing is that German losses in infantry were the causes of defeat of the ir armored forces in some way. What good are mighty panzer divisions if regular infantry is too weak to defend from Soviet armored thrust before those panzers react? Each next wave of German infantry was less and less trained and there was less and less battlehardened veterans to guide them.
Yes, after 1944, the Germans lost 2.8 million soldiers and the Soviets lost 1.03 million soldiers. The Red Army gained a lot of experience fighting against the Wehrmacht.
В данной статистике не учтены потери союзников Германии: Италии, Румынии, Венгрии, Финляндии. Они тоже активно участвовали в военных действиях на Восточном фронте и несли потери. Следует также учитывать, что из 11.5 миллионов советских потерь, 3.5 миллиона - солдаты умершие в германском плену. Немцы преднамеренно не обеспечивали их в должной мере пищей и медицинской помощью. Согласно нацистскому плану "Ост", в оккупированной части России население требовалось сократить на 20 миллионов и евреи, цыгане, коммунисты, военнослужащие и члены их семей были первой целью на уничтожение. Уничтожение планировалось осуществлять не только прямым способом, но и созданием невыносимых условий для жизни. Кстати, газовые камеры немцы впервые испытали именно на советских военнопленных.
@hrvatskoТы либо не изучал историю, либо сознательно лжёшь. Задокументированный факт, что 3 сентября 1941г. в концлагере Аушвиц было проведено испытания газа "Циклон Б", на 600 советских военнослужащих и 250 поляках. Позднее подобные массовые казни совершались регулярно. Также, фактом является, что за 4 года войны общая смертность советских военнопленных в немецком плену составила 60%. Основная масса умерших приходится на первые два года войны, когда немцы наступали и рассчитывали на блицкриг. Позже они были вынуждены улучшить содержание пленных поскольку их экономика начала испытывать дефицит рабочей силы. При этом содержание советских пленных было намного хуже чем англичан и американцев в течении всей войны.
@@user-sf2hj5bj1j да, да, конечно, прямо аж отделяли украинцев от русских и начинали пытать и в полицаи не брали и в Бабьем Яру расстреливали людей не они, а пуще всех Бандеру пытали, сало перед ним роняли.
@@supercobra1746 The Armenian SSR is part of the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union was a single state, not an association. And the Axis countries were precisely that association.
Soviet Union Won this war. US just was offering money until 1943. Soviet Union lost more than 30 million people in this war. Soviet Union made free - Serbia, Romania, Poland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and all the other countries that are just barking right now and all this countries lost so many families and people alongside the Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians, Armenian, Caucasian, Altai, Siberian and so on. People just lost their minds, lost their memory.
@@thomasfalcon6350 Russia was losing hard up until the moment the logistics started to do it’s work because of the 1000s of trucks delivered to Russia. Besides that, 1000s of planes got delivered, and everything necessary to make their artillery, both gun and shells.
These are exaggerated losses. They go by comparing the worst case scenario for soviets vs best for germans. For example: in the battle of Stalingrad and the counter offensive the soviets lost 1.2 million men vs 1.5 for germans.
The soviet military was quite ass against germany not that I support both of them but germany played it's cards wrong in the Caucasus and got desperate
These statistics do not take into account the losses of Germany's allies: Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland. They also actively participated in military operations on the Eastern Front and suffered losses. It should also be borne in mind that out of 11.5 million Soviet losses, 3.5 million were soldiers who died in German captivity. The Germans deliberately did not provide them with adequate food and medical care. According to the Nazi Ost plan, the population in the occupied part of Russia had to be reduced by 20 million and Jews, Gypsies, communists, military personnel and their family members were the first target for destruction. The destruction was planned to be carried out not only in a direct way, but also by creating unbearable living conditions. By the way, the Germans first tested gas chambers on Soviet prisoners of war.
It also doesn't take into account the Germans being bombed by the allies. Also a lot of Germans died in Soviet captivity being forced to work in gulags.
What's really hard is that those numbers on both sides counting millions is a number but every number represents a human being with a completely different life, story, family, friends, and dreams.
That is always the hard part to imagine. Indeed every single one of those numbers was someone like you and me who died way to early because of 2 people
Germany was not alone also in the 3th rayih was Finland Spain Bulgaria Greece Romania Italy Spain Austria - and nazi volunteers from Scandinavian countries Portugal and other countries even from India .
Some people be praising Stalin fpr defeating Nazis while he literally murdered Tuchachevsky who was responsible for the modernization of the Soviet army, while being friends Budionny who thought "they will call for cavalry" when the war will break out and was soundly defeated at the Kiev pocket in 1941. Both Stalin & Budionny were also partly responsible for the Polish victory over the Soviets in 1920. It is Żukov and some of the other generals the who actually stopped the Germans. And of course the sheer numbers of soldiers that were sacrificed with all the native & American resources in the first place of importance.
You must be a genius, I'd like to see you build up a country from total ruins of ww1 and civil war, lifting it up from gdp level of Brazil to the 2nd economy in the world in 20 years, while constantly fighting off interventions and internal terrorists and in the meantime singlehandedly stopping the best army in Europe. Oh no, you'd probably shit your little panties and cry in the comments about incompetent Stalin instead, cuz ur braindead. Read a book dude
@vallecend6855 No, he was a somewhat not great leader, for as the war went on, he increasingly gave more authority to the military to carry out the later half of the war. His distrust and misuse of the military in the beginning almost got the nation destroyed. Until the whole army was nearly operational, he did what he only knew how, and that was keep the political authority centralized. He was good at that, but in a nation that was under Czarist rule not too long ago, it wasn't out of the political zeitgeist that the people were able to rule any other way.
Fall Blau. The Russians fell back, so they would avoid incirclement. The Germans, stretching the line too far, simply didn’t have enough men to hold it, so when the Russians counterattacked, their numbers could be felt. Masterfully done by the Russians, really.
My opinion that is part of the reason for Stalingrad being surrounded and the German 6th army being trapped. Instead of sending army and panzer units deep in the Caucasus they should have secured Stalingrad first. Because in our timline the flanks of Stalingrad were only protected by mainly under equipped and lower trained Romanian and Hungarian troops
@@johnwiebe4293 eh. Stalingrad would have been heavily defended. (Like it was irl) I really don’t believe a few extra tanks could have taken the city, and a seige just wasn’t an option because of the lack of time. The plan was flawed from the beginning imo
@@theggfloupin4084 I never said it would help take the city, but prevent the flanks outside the city from being destroyed. Preventing the USSR from completely surrounding Stalingrad. Because in our timline there were essentially no German units on the flanks outside the city. Only under equipped and lower trained Romanian and Hungarian troops. Before the city was surrounded on November 22, 1942 there was nearly 200,000 German troops, over 1,100 tanks, and 1,000 aircraft in the Caucasus. If most of those troops and material were to instead shore up the flanks outside of Stalingrad it could have prevented the encirclement.
@@theggfloupin4084 the Germans don’t even need to take Stalingrad, stronger flanks could just allow for an orderly retreat and prevent the loss of the entire 6th Army. Hitler would probably fire Paulus for retreating though.
@@Anthony-yn9dg I think he means that the allies did nothing during the phony war except Africa which caused little casualties and if the naval invasion was earlier then they could have saved millions of lives
The ratio though ... it was 10:1 in the beginning ... and then at the end the Germans lose massive numbers. One can see the major reversals in the German numbers spiking - December 1941 then Stalingrad and then Kursk, Bagration ... But the very end is just massive losses for the Germans, 1.2 million without the Soviet number budging ... very different phases of the war indeed.
Moreover. Those later '45 losses were mostly POWs that had a real solid chance to return home after some "enforced labour" to rebuild the cities. Yes it may take 10 years for some but still, it is a peace time Soviet POWs in the giant encirclements of 41 and 42 had little to no chance to get it through the war.
@@Afdch "malenki rabota" ... when they took all males to Siberia whether they fought or not ... few returned and many returned as sick or broken people. One of my granddads (the other died in battle) was in Siberia and the husband of my grandma's sister. Of him, I heard stories, never met him. Only hope kept him alive and a Bible verse so he eventually came home. They gave him some fruits and he cried he has not seen fruits for years.
@@Anonymous-qj3sf no there were not, Germans almost always fought in numerical inferiority ... their tactics and coordination was better (not even the weapons, the T-34 outclassed them from the beginning as did the Russian 76mm artillery and the Ppsh41) I recommend this video: ruclips.net/video/1CqGeAmVu1I/видео.html
Если бы мы с пленными немцами поступали в 1944-1945 году так же, как они с нашими в 1941-1942, то у них потерь было бы больше. Не учтены потери венгров, румын, чехов, итальянцев , испанцев, французов и прочих, которые сражались против СССР.
да ты что. А с чего у тебя такой взялся вывод? и кстати а почему ты не учитываешь потери союзников совка, англии, франции, америки и даже не поверишь, Китая в котором погибло намного больше чем даже советских?
@@АндрейП-о8ю Советского народа погибло больше всего,потому что именно он внес наибольший вклад в победу и спас весь мир от фашизма,но чекнутые европейцы теперь рушат памятники Великим спасителям мира,в том числе могучему вождю Т.Сталину
из 24 миллионов людей большинство - женщины, дети и старики, потери же солдатами на восточном фронте к 44-45 сравнялись, не понимаю, почему люди об этом забывают, будто у СССР могло быть 24млн солдат в принципе._.
т.е. я хотел сказать, что ни о каких пленных здесь и речи быть не может - нацисты убивали мирное население и геноцид народов СССР за ошибку командования Союза принимать нельзя
@chuvash7936 It's important to note that the Soviets were well-prepared for winter warfare, equipped with suitable gear and strategies. In contrast, the Wehrmacht faced significant challenges as they lacked proper winter equipment. This disparity in preparedness played a crucial role in shaping the outcomes on the Eastern Front. The harsh winter conditions affected both sides, but the Soviet Union's readiness for winter warfare contributed to their resilience in the face of the German invasion.
In fact, the losses are almost equal to 11,400,000 vs 8,650,000+ (1.6 million prisoners), it’s just that when calculating the losses, the Volksturm, police, collaborators ~ 1.5, 2 million who were directly involved in hostilities were not taken into account, so it turns out that the ratio is approximately 1.1 to 1 only on the eastern front. 17-25 million people who died in the USSR are civilians who were exterminated, so now beloved and supported in Europe by the Nazis.
Stalin was working to take over Germany by democratic means and almost did . Hitler who was terrified of Russian Communism came along and saved the day. If it was not for the Demonic Communism, we probably would not have Nazism.
germany lost around 5 Million soldiers in ww2 and around 1 million civilians. That`s it. Soviet Union around 11-13 million soldiers and around 14-16 million civilians. So no, it`s far from equal.
Не учли также потери других стран оси,принимавших боевые действия против СССР. They also did not take into account the losses of other Axis countries that took military actions against the USSR.
Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Croatia, French legionnaires, Spain, Volunteers from all over Europe fought against the USSR. Even Belgium has scraped together two battalions. The whole economy of Europe worked for Germany.
@@enriqueperezarce5485 You don't know the story at ALL. America entered the war in 1944, so that the USSR would not take over all of Europe. At the same time, several million captured German soldiers were collected in the territory occupied by the United States. The US generals wanted to use them in an attack on the USSR. And Russia finished paying the debt on the land lease in the 90th year of the last century. I recommend studying the history of the war, and then open your mouth. When you are silent, you look like a smart one. Lend-lease for Nazi Germany How American companies supplied Hitler during the War On October 1, 1941, the first lend-lease protocol was signed between the United States and the USSR, which received from. ... Lend-lease for Nazi Germany How American companies supplied Hitler during the war. On October 1, 1941, the first lend-lease protocol was signed between the United States and the USSR, which received American assistance in tanks, aircraft, fuel, products and other materials. However, American companies generously supplied their own enemies, Germany, with all this. Business - and nothing personal. American components for the Faa. In August 1934, American Standard Oil acquired 730 thousand acres of land in Germany and built large oil refineries that supplied the Nazis with oil. At the same time, the most modern equipment for aircraft factories was secretly delivered to Germany from the USA, where the production of German aircraft will begin. Germany received a large number of military patents from the American firms Pratt and Whitney, Douglas, Bendix Aviation, and the Junkers 87 was built using American technologies. By 1941, when the Second World War was raging, American investments in the German economy amounted to $475 million. Standard Oil invested 120 million in it, General Motors - 35 million, ITT - 30 million, and Ford - 17.5 million. "When American soldiers invaded Europe in June 1944 in jeeps, trucks and tanks produced by the "big Three automobile" as a result of one of the largest military programs ever implemented," Dobbs notes, "they were unpleasantly surprised that the enemy was also moving in Ford trucks and "Opel", manufactured at 100 percent subsidiaries owned by GM, and flies planes built by Opel.
@@enriqueperezarce5485 On the eve of World War II, US corporations and banks invested $800 million in the country's industry and financial system. The amount at that time was huge. Of these, the leading four from America invested about $ 200 million in the militarized German economy: Standard Oil - 120 million, General Motors - 35 million, ITT investments amounted to $ 30 million, and Ford $ 17.5 million. It is shocking that even after the United States entered World War II on December 11, 1941, American corporations continued to actively fulfill orders from firms of enemy countries, supported the activities of their branches in Germany, Italy and even Japan. To do this, it was only necessary to apply for a special permit to carry out economic activities with companies under the control of the Nazis or their allies. Decree of the President of the United States of December 13 , 1941 he allowed such transactions, doing business with enemy companies, unless there was a special prohibition of the Ministry of Finance of America. Very often, American corporations easily obtained permits to work with enemy firms and supplied them with the necessary steel, engines, aviation fuel, rubber, radio components… So the power of the military industry of Germany and its allies was supported by the economic activity of the United States, whose companies received super profits for their deals with the enemy. Truly, to whom is the war, and to whom is the mother…
@@enriqueperezarce5485 For the successful preparation of the war, the Nazis considered it extremely necessary to weaken Germany's dependence on the import of iron ore. In Germany there were several iron ore deposits with 20-25 percent iron content. The development of such poor ores was considered unprofitable. Nevertheless, on the basis of these deposits, the construction of three plants with an annual steel production of 6 million tons began, which accounted for a third of all steel smelting in Germany. Officially, the work was carried out by the Hermann Goering concern, but in reality they were carried out by a specially created American firm "R. Brassert." "This company," writes the English economist N. Mulen, "until then almost unknown in Germany ... turned out to be closely connected with the Reich's "autarchy" in the field of supplying it with iron ore - one of the main elements of economic independence in the production of weapons." The firm "R. Brassert was only a branch of Brassert's large Chicago firm, which collaborated with the Morgan American Trust. Under the terms of the cartel agreements, American firms had to inform their German partners about all the technical innovations they were interested in. Thus, the firm "Baushand Lomb" willingly provided Zeiss with US military secrets and only asked to keep all information secret.
@@АлександрСаянский-ч6б Военные потери 1:1.2 то есть почти равны. Немцы сжигали деревни, города и косили мирноеинаселение, истребляли славян, сколько поляков, белорусов и русских погибло, это же ужас... Украинцы сдались, предатели. 😌
@@edwardk74 АХАХАХАХАХАХА КАК РАЗ ТАКИ НЕ СДАЛИСЬ КОГДА ЗАШЕЛ НЕМЕЦКИЙ РЕЖИМ НА БЕЛАРУСЬ И УКРАИНУ НЕМЦЫ ПООБЕЩАЛИ БАНДЕРЕ НЕЗАВИСИМУЮ УКРАИНУ ЗА ТО ЧТО БУДУТ С НИМИ ВОЕВАТЬУ УЧИ МИРОВУЮ ИСТОРИЮ А НЕ СОВКА И .Осии
TIKHistory did an amazing job doing it. You should watch his video: 'The Courland Pocket 1944-45 FULL BATTLESTORM History Documentary'. It lasts for 6 hours but is full of detail.
Nothern Russia is not suitable for large-scale military actions. Both sides couldn't make much progress and it was a stalemate all along, until German retreated and Finland surrendered.
Well they were fighting incompetent enemies underprepared while Germany finland Allie’s out number the Soviets by 2x at the start and most of the 20-1 were pows. But still Germany was power house.
@@Meteorknite Im just saying that first year was a steamroll, but yes with enough bodies anything can lose. Whether or not the soviets would have won on their own is debatable im not arguing either way it is what it is.
@@rzslo9084 on their own doesnt make sense UK fought german air navy submarines. USSR fought land air forces. As for US late took IMJ attacking to fight Nazis. USSR didnt get help in atk against Axis ganging either
The irretrievable losses of the armed forces of the USSR and the Axis countries on the Eastern Front are 11,444,100 and 8,649,200 people, respectively. The deadweight ratio is approximately 1.3:1 or less. With an almost equal number of prisoners of war during the war years (4,559,000 Soviet soldiers and 4,376,300 German soldiers), 86.5%, or 3,787,000 soldiers, returned from Soviet captivity, 44.2%, or 2,016,000 from German soldier
@@vaevictis2789 Also by the time of surrender majority of German troops was malnourished and in the grip of typhoid pandemic. Thus due to the disease and malnourishment, yet, a lot of Germans didn’t survive. But to conclude that this happen due to intentional mistreatment by the Soviets is disingenuous: this was January 1943, Soviets had very poor rations themselves due to the fact that majority of their agricultural land was under German occupation. Also it wasn’t 250,000 Germans who surrendered but 91k, or nearly 1/3 of the number you gave.
@@wiktorkopczynski8223 многие тогда были такими. Когда немецкие жители потеряли дом и бежали в поисках укрытия и пропитания, их встречали везде с презрением и злорадно им "мстили".
@@Miklosh.Prostoi countries lived under soviet occupation during the war like ukranians, greeted Germans like heroes. Soviets were the worst. Germans made the biggest mistake by hunting and exterminating Jews all across Europe. Therefore people hated them
@@Can-xi6tl Украинцы встречали немцев как героев? Советую прочитать тебе про "Бабий Яр". Думаю, после этого происшествия у жителей украины не осталось мыслей о том, что немцы - освободители от кровавого тирана Сталина. Да, местами, политика Сталина была жестокой, но такое было время. И мне кажется, что в СССР образца 1930-40 годов, жилось лучше, чем при "ОСВОБОДИТЕЛЯХ" (немцах).
Attacks innthe spring and summer were great against a lesser trained USSR force. But that doggone Russian winter is not a joke against less rugged folks.
Seeing the efficiency of the German military in the initial stages of Barbarossa makes it a bit easier to understand how they took over most of Europe in a few years. Scary to realize these are merely military deaths.
Ah yes my favorite "Germans vs Soviets" when some one speaks about casualties on the eastern front. WHAT ABOUT Italians, Romanians and other axis soldiers?
Да, нам с детства эту статистику приводили на уроках истории. Это потери только Германии. На стороне Гитлера воевало ещё десяток стран и их потери постоянно игнорируют чтобы показать как советы числом закидали. Общие потери к концу войны примерно 11.5 млн у Гитлера и 13 млн СССР.
Самые большие потери понесли Советский Союз - 26,6 млн, Китай - 13,5 млн, Германия - 6,48 млн, Польша - 6 млн (из них больше половины - евреи, жертвы Холокоста), Япония - 3,76 млн и Индия - 3 млн.
The Soviet Union didn’t volunteer to do this. They didn’t declare war on the axis. They were pseudo axis allies and certainly collaborators that were in shock when they were attacked.
Interesting video. So funny to read commentary, ahah Ussr so much loses, ahah throw meat... when france just sneaky capitulate! and than never! give real guerilla war... britain britain, what did britain? ah lost battle in france and after just give some battles in air, but never try to give battle in europe until it became clear that Ussr won in eastern front, they just formally being in war with Germany(maybe give some forces to help in East? pffffffff)... Same to usa, land in france in 1944? ofcorse!! its time to save Europe and take some satellites!!!
And then let's call our selfs heroes and liberators of Europe and never ever teach about Eastern front in schools and just ignore the massive sacrifice the Sovjet ppl did. Eastern front was a war for Sovjet survival you had 2 choices pick up a gun and die fighting or get exterminated by German ss divisions or rot in concentration camps
Интересно, а кто-то из авторов таких роликов использует официальные данные или они так цифры с потолка берут. И ещё не надо забывать что в германской армии помимо немцев было много солдат и из других стран. Их как тоже посчитали или просто скромно умолчали ;) а так бред полный.
You are right. There were many soldiers from other countries. Yet i havent found a good documentation about it yet. I wonder who and how many and if they believed the nazi propaganda and ideology or just were cannon fodder or maybe even forcibly recruited. Its know that they used children soldiers in the last days of the war "Der Volkssturm".
For russian and especially for russian communists it's doesn't matter how many people died, even 1 to 50 still "great victory". For them life is worthless.
Considering that if they had lost the germans would have exterminated them like they did with pretty much any russian civilian they got their hands on in the territory they captured... yes, yes it can be called a victory.
German needs to be + Axis allies (additional million+ losses). Also, this count includes non-combat deaths, especially murdered POWs. Axis had 450-500.000 in Soviet captivity, Soviets had 2,8-3,2 mllion in Axis captivity. Without POW deaths, its more like 6,8 million USSR deaths and 4,5 million Axis deaths. Thats very similary to Axis vs Western Allies in loss ratio.
Ehh. Funny analogy, but not a very good one. Truth be told, if the other allies hadn't invaded the west and forced Germany to redirect millions of troops, it's very likely that Germany would have won against Russia.
@@SimoN-vf8ps population of poland 1939: 30.000.000 population of romania 1941: 13.500.000 population of hungary 1941: 10.000.000 population bulgaria 1938: 6.000.000 population of lithuania 1940: 2.200.000 population of Germany 1939: 79.000.0000 population Soviet Union. 1940: 195.000.000
Nazi Germany had less puppet states' soldiers by the end: Romanians, Croatians, Italians, Hungarians, French, Belgians and Ukrainians were either dead or had shifted against them.
What's insane is that despite the fact that the ratio was 10.7 - 1 in favour of Germany in late 1941.. the Soviets *still* won. I don't think there is any comparable country in history which took so many losses early on and then came back to win anyway, except maybe Rome against Hannibal.
@@larsonpartisan2855author uses biased sources, there are official figures published in 1990, on the basis of which the most accurate calculations were made, the military losses of the union in the region of 8 million, which will lead to a ratio of 1.3: 1. In the source that the author uses, another 2 million are the civilian population, which German sources recorded in the partisan movement or Soviet auxiliary troops.
That's just how numbers work, even while the Germans were losing gained territory the soviets still lost more troops just no longer at the huge ratio as the start of the war.
@@natebronsen6454 basically most of Europe. Spain was allied with Germany. The Germans invaded alongside Bulgaria Serbia Italy Romania Italy and other of its Allie’s or puppets
Every Russian here: The creator should be able to tell the history right with all deaths. Russians in reality: Do not check that the "military operation" is a war of aggression (offensive).
@@user-vc1jn3yr3y it’s not. If a country breaks the borders and occupied areas then it’s a war. I hope u will see the true images from Ukraine instead of the Russian government stories ✌🏼
@@Ломпадкасветлая nah.. Germany offered it to poland before war and to British after the beginning of the war both refused... Germans were pretty anglophill in both wars but brits just preferred a ruin world than an equal Im not pro german specially becuz of thier treatment of polish and ukranian and russian ppl Iwished it was an anti bolshevik crusade rather than a war of extermination
@@Zaalfaald Bruh you talk shit, when a nation fights till the bitter end the peace treaty will become much worse, Germany fought in reality till the end and had luck that the allies saw the mistakes done in Versailles.
@@andreysamuylik8047 я тебе отошлю книгу настоящую советскую про все подробности операций и наступлений как немцев так и советской армии... в одной битве за Москву немцы потеряли около млн и наши чуть больше и больше орудий потому что у немцев была авиация хорошая но все равно их отымели.... под ржевом наши потери 1200000 млн у немцев около 700000....так же у них была лучше авиация и артилерия но наши их уебали по самое незочу ценой миллиона солдат..это не сейчас тебе точечными ракетами джойстиком управлять. Также Сталинградская битва против СССР воевали 5 союзных стран вермахта каждая насчитывалось по 200- 300т плюс немецская армия 400 т прекрасно оснащеная армия техникой авиацией фаустпатронами и танковой дивизией и в два раза больше авиацией. Но это из не спасло..Паулс был в ахуе...есть много фактов то что жтот долбаеб на главной теме показывает это его бурные фантазии. СССР воевал не с германие, СССР воевал с Европой и надавал ей люлей.
@@lorimeyers3839 Most of them probably were NCO's and officers who were pulled back to Reich after being wounded and performed duties in training facilities.
@@kerstas10But they did kill not only Jews but many other minorities. And it's was VERY central to their ideology. Those Ukrainians will do the same thing with Europe if they could.
when i was in school, at the victory parade one of the veterans said "after the Jews, the slavs were second in line for extermination." and the fact that i had these two ethnic groups mixed in my blood horrified me. the nazis destroyed entire villages and small towns of ordinary peasants, freeing up land for their needs. no matter how cruel stalin's army was, they did not go the nazi way, they did not take revenge by extermination
@@ftbzik5926 а что, собственно, героического он совершил? весь героизм совершил советский народ, жуков, василевский, рокоссовский, конев - вот это настоящие добытчики победы. сталин лишь довольствовался их успехами, которые присвоил себе. сам же он по сути тиран и убийца. называть его героем - плевок в лицо миллионам его жертв во время перенаселения и репрессий.
@@kutkoban да этот тиран и убийца котовй не чего не делал по сути под своим руководством поднял страну в остановил всё а также довёл страну до того что мы 1 улетели в космос.
Yes, it’s it between 8.6 million dead/missing - up to 12 million. Germans lost c. 5 000 000 dead and missing in total of which 3.300.000 up to 4.3 million killed on Eastern Front. That pretty much proves the calculated 75-80% of all German casualties indeed in Eastern Front.
It’s not fast Germany started to giving up from russian land were they didn’t had a good defensive line so they were fortifying and retreating till they got to Poland border were they had a better defensive line they had build bunkers… like they did in the coastal areas of France.
@@josefptacek113 in 1941 year they had 11.5 kdr which was pretty godly and it was 7.5 in 1942 pretty solid. They lost most their men in 1944-45 when it was known they already lost the war but were forced to keep fighting rather than surrender.
Imagine if these wars never happened. And all these people lived. Imagine how many more people would be alive today, including their children and grandchildren.
What you said is so brutally true. In the Iliad Jupiter says in the beginning that he started the war in Troy for this exact reason. Overpopulation. ...And this is the reason we will have another world war soon...
The numbers in this video are problematic because they come from two very different studies. On the one hand, the study about Soviet losses, Krivosheev, has been consistantly critized for giving an estimate that is too low. On the other hand Overman's study about German losses has been critized for being too high. + None of these books gives accurate numbers about the losses of the smaller Axis countries. Lev Lopukhovsky and Boris Kavalerchik book "The Price of Victory" does the right thing: putting 2 high-end estimates against each others and discusses about the minor countries losses.
@Victor Varganov According to Overmans, around 4 million soldiers died vs the Soviets due to all causes (5.318.000 during WW2), including around 363k recorded POW death in USSR. Due to Overmans methodology many men that died after the war are included in wartime deaths, and his numbers needs to be lowered by a few 100,000s but it's impossible to know how many exactly. Swedish historian Niklas Zetterling wrote an article about this in his book "Normandy 1944". According to the "Price of Victory" the Soviets made 1.415.000 German POWs up to May 8th, 1945. My pick on German total of "irrecoverable losses" (dead + POW): 4.000.000 dead + 1.415.000 millions POWs - 363.000 dead POW (to avoid double counting) - 200.000 (to reduce Overmans overcounting) = 4.852.000 and not 5.676.000. If we add dead + POW of Axis minors (numbers from TPoV) we get + 404.100 dead (not including POW deaths) + 634.600 POW = 5.890.700 dead & captured Axis soldiers (corresponding Soviet number with Polish/Romanians/Finns/Bulgarians allies is 14.654.000). Not counted are millions of cases of wounds . Total losses dead + POW + wounded are around 11-12 millions for the Axis and near 30 millions for the USSR and its smaller allies.
A. Soviet are more than Russia, it have Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltics, the Caucasians, the 'Stans , now it's Russia only against Ukraine only. B. The world war II have a profound effect on Soviet population, to simply put, they simply bled dry and the baby boom took place in the west are weak or absent in the Soviets , the russia right now is a country with ageing and dwindling population instead of the young and thriving population like the Soviets at 1930s
Russia is not soviet Union. Russian economy on 2022 has not even surpassed soviet economy of 1989 which was $2.7 trillion. Russian army is 1/6th of soviet army and equipment
@@ДмитрийРокин-ф7б ukraine isn’t exactly a powerhouse either, but they’ve received top notch equipment from NATO & most definitely got good instruction and guidance from experienced NATO officers, like the ones who capitulated iraq in three weeks
it's almost quality vs quantity at the start, but it's really sad seeing all those people especially civilians die because of a war that wasn't caused by them
@@metsasuomalainen3691 ошибаешься, а может и вовсе не знаешь, большая часть погибших Российского населения, это мирное население, которых фашисты в лагерях смерти мучали, сжигали, убивали и прочее миллионами
From being on the brink of losing your capital to taking enemy capital is an insane clutch on the Soviet part and a certified bottle moment on the German part. PS: Apparently Nazis were so bad that despite being insanely successful at the start they rushed and bottled it. That's what you call _Skill Issue_
FALSE! They forgot to count Italians, Romanians, Fins, Hungarians, Slovaks and so on. On June 22, 1941, 5.5 million soldiers and officers of Nazi Germany and its satellites invaded the USSR, and the Wehrmacht troops numbered 8.5 million people!
Insane part is that Soviets lost 1 million soldiers per advance! Those are staggering numbers. 11 million is more than twice the amount of my country's population. It is hard to contemplate so much loss of human life.
Understandable though. When you're caught between two titans slaughtering each other, you choose the one who wins. If you stand with the loosing one, you won't be slaughtered, like he will. You will be annihilated. Romania choose what's right - the lives of it's people. Which is kinda respectable even, due to the time when human lives costed exactly zero.
@@ik2254 at the same time, it enforces that all lives lost for the axis fight were indeed vain. It probrably made the deaths of soldiers that fought against the soviets even sadder for the families, knowing they died for nothing
@@ik2254 wars are not essentially fought for nothing, all the progress we made today are because of wars, it is part of the process for human learning.
Like.... on the first 5 million russian casualties, around 700k germans only were as casualties... the next 5 million Russian casualties were then to the germans as 5 million casualties, the germans really lost hand of it after 1942.
Those losses cames from end of 1944 to the end of the war. And here the german was incapable to fight oh they also thrown inexpierneces soldiers into battle who just straight up surrender the best chance they got
The eastern front was such an important front in WW2, the sacrifices made by the red army to save their motherland from nazism, truly they got hit the worst from WW2
Нет, сражения за Одессу закончились несколько раньше. Судя по хронологии и местности расположение это может быть лишь Ясско-Кишеневская наступательная операция.
Glory forever to the 24 million heroes of the Red Army who made the ultimate sacrifice in the fight to eradicate fascism. They died so that we could live.
@@DrJones20 They did improved alot but well a good 1:5.7 ratio was still there for the germans in early 1944. 1941and to some degree 1942 was just a fiasco. Still they lost a lot more men due to poor chain of supply and command as well as incompetent leadership and most notably the willingness of doing attacks with no real gain. See counteroffensive of 1941 and in 1942 after Operation Uranus.
Because Germans couldn't supply as many soldiers and equipment. Despite enormous losses, Russians outnumbered Germans 2 to 1 in 1942 (1941 were roughly equal). In later stages of the war they had also problem with equipment, because of allies bombing western Germany.
Its scary to realize how the eastern front alone amounted for almost as many casualties as the entirety of world war I
And at the far east theater China alone suffered as much casualties as the Soviet since they have been at war with the Japanese in 1938 till 1945
@@mukhtarsyajaratun1025 Now compare the population of China and the Soviet Union in those years.
If you count civilian deaths it’s 30 000 000 deaths
And those are only the military losses
Russia never truly recovered from ww2.
26 million deaths... 16 of which were ordinary civilians...
20 millions of civilians, army is about 7. 3 millions from army's 7 - were prisoners of the first year
Well yes thats what happens if you dont let your civillians flee for example stalingrad were no civillian was allowed to flee to stall the germans
How many of your own people you soviets killed?
@@toriyshaov2245 wrong, 11-13 million were soldiers.
@@Tosse901 They always recalculate as they open new archives. On the front line there were about 6 329 600 soldiers killed and wounded.
The initial speed of the offensive never ceases to amaze me
Blitzkrieg... one German Soldier is worth 10 Soviets! Until he is worth only 2!
The USSR had to be rescued by the west. Apparently it would have been too much to just let communism die in its cradle.
its a big factor why they end up losing in the end tbh. The germans lost almost all of their best equipment to take on the soviets garbage equipment. By the time the front stalls the germans are too tired and stretched too thin, and without the momentum to really push any further, and eventually get rolled back to germany proper by 43
@@Luxia-f1e The Soviet armies were destroyed by the early stages of the war. The Soviets had to form entirely new forces from the scratch, partly with western help.
@@herptek somewhat true, they lost a huge amount of men for sure, but they also had millions of trained reserves as well
greatly helped by the fact they released many of the generals, cpts, and other ranks of commanders held by stalins idiotic purge
tbh stalin’s idiocy probably got another 10 million people killed over the war from things like his insistence on trying to negotiate for several days
but it does not change the fact that the nazis routinely valued short term gains with their bliztkrieg vs long term stability
they had wrongly assumed the russian military and political structure would give up (and maybe it wouldve if they hadnt been genocidal maniacs killing slavs along the way)
USSR literally lost more troops than my country has people... thats just horrible to imagine
That's the classic russian tactic at play. Something very similar happened during Napoleonic invasion of Russian Empire too.
@@justice32legendsif you think the russians just sent waves of unarmed infantry, youre mistaken
@@diidac17t's not a communist tactic. It's the tactics of a technologically inferior military. When you have numbers just keep throwing them at the impossible to reach enemy until you run out of if manpower or they hopefully run out of bullets.
That's why in any strategy you want to prioritize technology first. The F-22 is the best fighter in my opinion, but it doesn't even come close to the importance of the latest computing chips.
@@diidac17 I seriously hate this myth about the Red Army in WWII. German generals writing memoirs claimed this post-war to excuse their bad tactical decision making and try and deny that the Soviets beat the "ethnically superior" German army via strategic planning and well-planned applications of force. There were no "one man has a rifle, one man has the ammunition" mass assault charges aside from the most desperate of sieges.
@@german-americanmapping6766 yeah dude, the Germans were less tactical and smart... that's why the Soviets had the highest number of casualties in WW2... YEAH.
Communist were and are evil. I am sure the commie government just didn't give a fk about sending soldiers to die massively.
Just think about it. You send soldiers to die, you make them commie heroes in order to spread the commie propaganda PLUS you have less mouths to maintain when the war ends.
They are just evil. The only political ideology that is literally the devil on earth.
"They had us in the first round not going to lie" - Stalin, probably
Haha, nice one!
"VICTORY CANNOT BE ACHIEVED WITHOUT SACRFICE, MASON, WE RUSSIAN KNOW THIS BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE"
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- Some Badass Guy
he doesn’t rizz br
The main thing that helped Soviets is basically them having infinite resources and support from the allies and huge troops number. Without resources it is game over. Soviets also fought only against Germany. The west was doing all the work against german colonies all over the world and against Japan . Also Soviets was so lucky to have the winter ❄️ and was prepared for it.
They had them the whole war. The victory belong to the west and not the Soviets. West was smart playing chess and knowing what they are doing. They let the Soviets to take the losses.
Just numbers for you. It was lifes with stories, suffering, pain and missing persons.
the death of one life is a tragedy, but the death of 10 000 000 lifes is just a statistic
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Soviet lives are meaningless, those that fought for communism don't deserve the respect they get from our modern society
@@hant_blue_habsbourg_bonapa9192 so ironic... i thank you for this comment to be honest, me myself never really thought about that.
Not really, they were mostly normies with no thoughts or feelings.
- Adûnâi
Soviet Soldiers casualties : 11-12,000,000
Soviet Civilian casualties : 17-20,000,000
The Soviets and the Germans weren’t giving each other much, they both did anything to make the enemies life miserable if citizen or not
Soviet casualties in all (military and civilian) were less than 15 million.
@@BjornHeiden Wrong! just go search it.
@@Leechlordfestus Rave. The war crimes of the Germans and the Soviets against civilians are incomparable. Nazi dogs killed 20 million Soviet civilians
5 million soviets were killed in action while 4.4 million germans were killed in action, so kind of like a 1:1.2 ratio.
WW2 losses: Germany: 6 million
USSR: 30 million and they are still discussing what the real number WILL BE.
Losses of people during the years of World War 2 for all reasons:
-USSR: from 29 to 37 million people; -"Axis countries" (3 Reich and its allies): from 12 to 18 million;
-USA and UK: about 1-1,2 million.
@@mainmeasurement4388and china?
Weak army losses more, also the winter war lol
@@Roo978roo the soviets did most of the heavy lifting in this war, if they were weak the initial offensive was enough to collapse the union altogether.
Yea sure. Russia beat napoleon and hitler alone. @Roo978roo
As a hoi4 player seeing Moscow that close gives me anxiety
can't even touch Moscow in winter 😱🥶
Supply > soviet army 😂😂
Germany was so close to winning
@@LockflyFuck nah they werent
@@erwanduclos4210 they were, if Hitler hasn't made 6th army push Stalingrad alone, they could have take over Moscow
“The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.“
Edit: I never said this quote was from Stalin.
Genocide
@Tobias Guldberg not sure why not, they were like this like always also it work pretty well since it was not even a professional army Just random 16-18yo putted to die for their country without weapon xD almost same as nowdays
@Tobias Guldberg well in my country nor nazi nor ussr were good so I dont mind high casualties on both sides
@@empty7038 I do mind it, millions of father's and sons of families forced out of their homes, and than getting killed. There is nothing good about a bad country losing their man, because those man often deserved their deaths the least. But for both sides if they deserted and were found, they were tortured and Murderered a lot of times on display not only that, but oftenly the family they have, the family they fight for would also get the same or similar punishment. A fate way worse than dying in battle, it was more of a serving to save you and your family than support your country and its war. That's the tragic truth of these man.
As a wise man once said
"The ones who get hurt the most, often deserve it the least."
@@yourlocalchannel6904 and then there is Poland, literally destroyed by both nazi and soviets because somebody did order them to do that? I mean stealing killing, raping civilians? You see it as bad leader doing bad things and making their hands dirty but many soldiers did enjoy doing it that way. Well if we talk about conflict that is happening now russian ppl at the begginig were doing same thing they were doing during ww2 why would I mind if this kind of dog lose his life xD
should probably mention that most a large amount of both sides “losses” are also captured soldiers and not deaths
Thats true, in Operation Barbarossa, only a million Soviet soliders were killed, the rest were captured or wounded
It is (look in the discription
@@F.R.E.D.D2986 ahahah, LOL, Total losses of the USSR(with the civilian population)The human losses of the Soviet Union in the Great Patriotic War amounted to 26.6 million people . This figure was first published in rounded form ("almost 27 million people") at a meeting of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on May 8, 1990. BRO, WTF 1million?? nazy also used concentration camp, you know that Russian soldiers, civilians died there no less than Jews???
@@raze20 In Operation BARBOROSSA, a million soliders were killed, the rest were wound or captured, you're talking about civilians, also, i'm not taking into account with the prison deaths, as about half by 1942, (roughly 1.5-2 million in total) would be dead. I'm talking Barbarossa and only Barbarossa.
Although in this conflict if you get captured you're very likely going to die as a PoW
scary thing: only after late 1944 did the germans start losing more troops than soviets
If you lose a war, your troops will definitely be disarmed by the enemy country. You're just weird, friend😁😁
In fact, this is far from the case, my friend. Far from it. Since the end of 1944, the Germans could no longer count on any success in the war. The Red Army had already crushed the Wehrmacht by the end of 1944. At the same time, having become less to lose, plus or minus by the beginning of 1943.
@@faithnight9572Funny thing is that German losses in infantry were the causes of defeat of the ir armored forces in some way. What good are mighty panzer divisions if regular infantry is too weak to defend from Soviet armored thrust before those panzers react? Each next wave of German infantry was less and less trained and there was less and less battlehardened veterans to guide them.
Yes, after 1944, the Germans lost 2.8 million soldiers and the Soviets lost 1.03 million soldiers. The Red Army gained a lot of experience fighting against the Wehrmacht.
it was a 2 germans : 1 soviet ratio after 1944 , and during 1944 it was roughly 1:1 @@swe1733
В данной статистике не учтены потери союзников Германии: Италии, Румынии, Венгрии, Финляндии. Они тоже активно участвовали в военных действиях на Восточном фронте и несли потери. Следует также учитывать, что из 11.5 миллионов советских потерь, 3.5 миллиона - солдаты умершие в германском плену. Немцы преднамеренно не обеспечивали их в должной мере пищей и медицинской помощью. Согласно нацистскому плану "Ост", в оккупированной части России население требовалось сократить на 20 миллионов и евреи, цыгане, коммунисты, военнослужащие и члены их семей были первой целью на уничтожение. Уничтожение планировалось осуществлять не только прямым способом, но и созданием невыносимых условий для жизни. Кстати, газовые камеры немцы впервые испытали именно на советских военнопленных.
@hrvatskoТы либо не изучал историю, либо сознательно лжёшь. Задокументированный факт, что 3 сентября 1941г. в концлагере Аушвиц было проведено испытания газа "Циклон Б", на 600 советских военнослужащих и 250 поляках. Позднее подобные массовые казни совершались регулярно. Также, фактом является, что за 4 года войны общая смертность советских военнопленных в немецком плену составила 60%. Основная масса умерших приходится на первые два года войны, когда немцы наступали и рассчитывали на блицкриг. Позже они были вынуждены улучшить содержание пленных поскольку их экономика начала испытывать дефицит рабочей силы. При этом содержание советских пленных было намного хуже чем англичан и американцев в течении всей войны.
@hrvatsko ты прав, для русских были удовлетворительные условия, а вот украинцев морили голодом, издевались и жгли в камерах
@@user-sf2hj5bj1j да, да, конечно, прямо аж отделяли украинцев от русских и начинали пытать и в полицаи не брали и в Бабьем Яру расстреливали людей не они, а пуще всех Бандеру пытали, сало перед ним роняли.
@@hrvatsko7015ага, может их еще красной икрой кормили? Ну ты и солочь... Тебя бы в такие условия.
@@user-sf2hj5bj1jособенно над гомосеком Бандерой издивались, что даже потом с собой забрали.
That's kinda weird to count only germans, considering there were also romanians, hungarians and finns
They’re counted in the pink dots, yet a count of them would also have been nice.
@@daringdare5078 yep, he should compare glorious Armenian SSR troops vs German troops. And discount other dots.
There were some Italians and some Bulgarians too
@@supercobra1746 The Armenian SSR is part of the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union was a single state, not an association. And the Axis countries were precisely that association.
He did, in the description
As an American, I can unequivocally say, The Soviet Union did the heavy lifting during World War II.
Soviet Union Won this war. US just was offering money until 1943.
Soviet Union lost more than 30 million people in this war. Soviet Union made free - Serbia, Romania, Poland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and all the other countries that are just barking right now and all this countries lost so many families and people alongside the Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians, Armenian, Caucasian, Altai, Siberian and so on. People just lost their minds, lost their memory.
Союз победил в войне.
Yet they couldn’t have done it without the American Lend-Lease act. So even though they did it, The US is still the backbone of it all
No, they didn't, it's just russians are expendable and their lives don't matter.
@@thomasfalcon6350 Russia was losing hard up until the moment the logistics started to do it’s work because of the 1000s of trucks delivered to Russia. Besides that, 1000s of planes got delivered, and everything necessary to make their artillery, both gun and shells.
Even when the tide turned in favor of the Soviets, their losses were staggering.
These are exaggerated losses. They go by comparing the worst case scenario for soviets vs best for germans.
For example: in the battle of Stalingrad and the counter offensive the soviets lost 1.2 million men vs 1.5 for germans.
@@ArmaDino22bros acting like Germans were better then soviets
The soviet military was quite ass against germany not that I support both of them but germany played it's cards wrong in the Caucasus and got desperate
@uhe3431 probably cause they didn't prepare for such a war. Otherwise, ww2 would have ended by the beginning of 1943
@ahmedbabiker6562 soviets themselves already had mutual distrust with the germans and did have high military presence
These statistics do not take into account the losses of Germany's allies: Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland. They also actively participated in military operations on the Eastern Front and suffered losses. It should also be borne in mind that out of 11.5 million Soviet losses, 3.5 million were soldiers who died in German captivity. The Germans deliberately did not provide them with adequate food and medical care. According to the Nazi Ost plan, the population in the occupied part of Russia had to be reduced by 20 million and Jews, Gypsies, communists, military personnel and their family members were the first target for destruction. The destruction was planned to be carried out not only in a direct way, but also by creating unbearable living conditions. By the way, the Germans first tested gas chambers on Soviet prisoners of war.
why did you just copy the others guy comment?
It also doesn't take into account the Germans being bombed by the allies.
Also a lot of Germans died in Soviet captivity being forced to work in gulags.
@@ghosty0612 great
@@ghosty0612 86% of German pows were returned back to Germany where as only 40% of soviet pows returned home.
@@ghosty0612 also 80% of German losses came from Soviets but allied helped by sending aid
What's really hard is that those numbers on both sides counting millions is a number but every number represents a human being with a completely different life, story, family, friends, and dreams.
That is always the hard part to imagine. Indeed every single one of those numbers was someone like you and me who died way to early because of 2 people
"The death of one man is a tragedy, but the death of millions is just a statistic."
- Stalin
Woah!! Don't think that deep..
Germany was not alone also in the 3th rayih was Finland Spain Bulgaria Greece Romania Italy Spain Austria - and nazi volunteers from Scandinavian countries Portugal and other countries even from India .
except no sorrow for nazism especially ukrianians that joined nazism.
Some people be praising Stalin fpr defeating Nazis while he literally murdered Tuchachevsky who was responsible for the modernization of the Soviet army, while being friends Budionny who thought "they will call for cavalry" when the war will break out and was soundly defeated at the Kiev pocket in 1941. Both Stalin & Budionny were also partly responsible for the Polish victory over the Soviets in 1920. It is Żukov and some of the other generals the who actually stopped the Germans. And of course the sheer numbers of soldiers that were sacrificed with all the native & American resources in the first place of importance.
You must be a genius, I'd like to see you build up a country from total ruins of ww1 and civil war, lifting it up from gdp level of Brazil to the 2nd economy in the world in 20 years, while constantly fighting off interventions and internal terrorists and in the meantime singlehandedly stopping the best army in Europe.
Oh no, you'd probably shit your little panties and cry in the comments about incompetent Stalin instead, cuz ur braindead. Read a book dude
@vallecend6855 No, he was a somewhat not great leader, for as the war went on, he increasingly gave more authority to the military to carry out the later half of the war.
His distrust and misuse of the military in the beginning almost got the nation destroyed.
Until the whole army was nearly operational, he did what he only knew how, and that was keep the political authority centralized.
He was good at that, but in a nation that was under Czarist rule not too long ago, it wasn't out of the political zeitgeist that the people were able to rule any other way.
Тухачевский это не тот кто крестьян Тамбовских уничтожал
I never realize how far south they made it in the Caucasus.
Fall Blau. The Russians fell back, so they would avoid incirclement. The Germans, stretching the line too far, simply didn’t have enough men to hold it, so when the Russians counterattacked, their numbers could be felt. Masterfully done by the Russians, really.
My opinion that is part of the reason for Stalingrad being surrounded and the German 6th army being trapped.
Instead of sending army and panzer units deep in the Caucasus they should have secured Stalingrad first.
Because in our timline the flanks of Stalingrad were only protected by mainly under equipped and lower trained Romanian and Hungarian troops
@@johnwiebe4293 eh. Stalingrad would have been heavily defended. (Like it was irl) I really don’t believe a few extra tanks could have taken the city, and a seige just wasn’t an option because of the lack of time. The plan was flawed from the beginning imo
@@theggfloupin4084
I never said it would help take the city, but prevent the flanks outside the city from being destroyed. Preventing the USSR from completely surrounding Stalingrad.
Because in our timline there were essentially no German units on the flanks outside the city. Only under equipped and lower trained Romanian and Hungarian troops.
Before the city was surrounded on November 22, 1942 there was nearly 200,000 German troops, over 1,100 tanks, and 1,000 aircraft in the Caucasus. If most of those troops and material were to instead shore up the flanks outside of Stalingrad it could have prevented the encirclement.
@@theggfloupin4084 the Germans don’t even need to take Stalingrad, stronger flanks could just allow for an orderly retreat and prevent the loss of the entire 6th Army. Hitler would probably fire Paulus for retreating though.
А откуда взялось 11 миллионов погибших немцев из которых 9 миллионов солдаты? А убитые венгры и румыны? Они погибли все на восточном фронте. Все.
Данное виде сделано, что бы принизить победу советского солдата, посему не стоит задаваться таким вопросом.
Вонючим амерским видосам нельзя верить
А итальянцы, и тд и тп!
Советские солдаты брали в плен а фашисты убивали в концлагерях и сжигали деревнями что стоит только одна тонька пулемётчика
а те кто делает такие видосы расчитывают на людей, которые изучают историю по каналу bbc
I always think of the poor mothers that lost their child
think the same way. we lost even more because of you
@@ЮгославскийпартизанМаршалтито wasn't me 🐒
@@Anthony-yn9dg I think he means that the allies did nothing during the phony war except Africa which caused little casualties and if the naval invasion was earlier then they could have saved millions of lives
Do u know that Nazi Germany and USSR used their woman as mere breeding ground for more manpower!?
yep, im pretty sure 80 percent of all men 18-20 (most common enlistment age) died in the war
music: hearts of iron I - ride of the valkyrids
It also music at starting screen in hoi3
and two, as well
The ratio though ... it was 10:1 in the beginning ... and then at the end the Germans lose massive numbers.
One can see the major reversals in the German numbers spiking - December 1941 then Stalingrad and then Kursk, Bagration ...
But the very end is just massive losses for the Germans, 1.2 million without the Soviet number budging ... very different phases of the war indeed.
Moreover. Those later '45 losses were mostly POWs that had a real solid chance to return home after some "enforced labour" to rebuild the cities. Yes it may take 10 years for some but still, it is a peace time Soviet POWs in the giant encirclements of 41 and 42 had little to no chance to get it through the war.
@@Afdch "malenki rabota" ... when they took all males to Siberia whether they fought or not ... few returned and many returned as sick or broken people. One of my granddads (the other died in battle) was in Siberia and the husband of my grandma's sister. Of him, I heard stories, never met him. Only hope kept him alive and a Bible verse so he eventually came home. They gave him some fruits and he cried he has not seen fruits for years.
This map doesn't count other german allies loses on eastern front
At first, there were 3 times more German soldiers. There were 4-6 million of them. This video is wrong
@@Anonymous-qj3sf no there were not, Germans almost always fought in numerical inferiority ... their tactics and coordination was better (not even the weapons, the T-34 outclassed them from the beginning as did the Russian 76mm artillery and the Ppsh41) I recommend this video: ruclips.net/video/1CqGeAmVu1I/видео.html
Pyrrus: "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined."
Stalin: "Hold my vodka."
Would make more sense to compare Pyrrus and Hitler, given that the USSR actually won
@@bd95382 You didnt understand what the guy is talking about...Pyrrus also won. You aint very bright, arent you?
@@vladpryshlyak2025 Pyrrhus won the battle but lost the war, that’s the whole point.
@@samr6408
@@bd95382 Just tryin' to make a dumb joke, dude.
WWII centralised the whole battle of the world in Eastern Front. Totally worth to learn.
nope, even for germans themselfs
Beautifully done. If a picture is worth a thousand words this has as much information as an entire book
Если бы мы с пленными немцами поступали в 1944-1945 году так же, как они с нашими в 1941-1942, то у них потерь было бы больше. Не учтены потери венгров, румын, чехов, итальянцев , испанцев, французов и прочих, которые сражались против СССР.
да ты что. А с чего у тебя такой взялся вывод? и кстати а почему ты не учитываешь потери союзников совка, англии, франции, америки и даже не поверишь, Китая в котором погибло намного больше чем даже советских?
@@АндрейП-о8ю совок- это во что подобный тебе мусор сгребают, а Союз - это мощь и гордость
@@АндрейП-о8ю Советского народа погибло больше всего,потому что именно он внес наибольший вклад в победу и спас весь мир от фашизма,но чекнутые европейцы теперь рушат памятники Великим спасителям мира,в том числе могучему вождю Т.Сталину
из 24 миллионов людей большинство - женщины, дети и старики, потери же солдатами на восточном фронте к 44-45 сравнялись, не понимаю, почему люди об этом забывают, будто у СССР могло быть 24млн солдат в принципе._.
т.е. я хотел сказать, что ни о каких пленных здесь и речи быть не может - нацисты убивали мирное население и геноцид народов СССР за ошибку командования Союза принимать нельзя
Greatest comeback in history
The most influential Winter in history
Not really, the Soviets had seemingly infinite manpower also, they were being bankrolled by the USA.
@@andrewhairStyleWinter did not help Russia win you dunce
@@andrewhairStyleblud still believes that Germany made the same mistakes as Napoleon 😂😂
@chuvash7936 It's important to note that the Soviets were well-prepared for winter warfare, equipped with suitable gear and strategies. In contrast, the Wehrmacht faced significant challenges as they lacked proper winter equipment. This disparity in preparedness played a crucial role in shaping the outcomes on the Eastern Front. The harsh winter conditions affected both sides, but the Soviet Union's readiness for winter warfare contributed to their resilience in the face of the German invasion.
Сколько же матерей не дождалось своих сыновей, мужей, братьев чтобы те вернулись домой…
@@GrowingEvolutionary какой бы, не был плохой сын не один родитель не захочет его смерти
@@Троцкизм-щ7б россияне на мусорку-наций.
@@УсатийЧан там занято русофобами
@@Вератюр Где
@@УсатийЧан вы там с ними, вам виднее
The Soviet Union was reported to have found an infinite soldier glitch
💀
They were spamming low tier troops those dam spammers
The member countries still haven't recovered from that war
Soldier spam to hold the tide after most of your army got encircled
In fact, the losses are almost equal to 11,400,000 vs 8,650,000+ (1.6 million prisoners), it’s just that when calculating the losses, the Volksturm, police, collaborators ~ 1.5, 2 million who were directly involved in hostilities were not taken into account, so it turns out that the ratio is approximately 1.1 to 1 only on the eastern front. 17-25 million people who died in the USSR are civilians who were exterminated, so now beloved and supported in Europe by the Nazis.
Stalin was working to take over Germany by democratic means and almost did . Hitler who was terrified of Russian Communism came along and saved the day. If it was not for the Demonic Communism, we probably would not have Nazism.
Nice try but no.
No, it's not almost 1:1.
germany lost around 5 Million soldiers in ww2 and around 1 million civilians. That`s it. Soviet Union around 11-13 million soldiers and around 14-16 million civilians.
So no, it`s far from equal.
Не учли также потери других стран оси,принимавших боевые действия против СССР.
They also did not take into account the losses of other Axis countries that took military actions against the USSR.
Примерно миллион будет
Крайне дельное замечание.
Фины, Румыны, Венгры. Плюсом ещё французские дивизии.
@@ГруппаТХ-20 Забыли Итальянцев. Их там очень много воевало.
@@ГруппаТХ-20 Ещё испанская голубая дивизия (40000 человек), добровольцы из Скандинавии, коллаборанты (например огромная РОА)
And those are military losses, with the civilians in te USSR Were like 27 millions of losses.
No, this video is a total bullshit lol. 27 million are total losses including both civilians and military.
20 to 27 is the low estimates from historian's, the higher ones are 32 to 42million for the USSR.
U must knew, that ussr kill more peoples than Nazi Germany in USSR for all ww2
Just so you all know, they’re still counting the casualties even til this day
Автору не мешало бы выучить историю этой войны.
Мы ему дадим ответ!!!!
Зачем???? это пропаганда! И тебя купят. Вопрос в деньгах. Они напечатают сколько надо.
Кажется, печатающая у них сломалась уже.
Расскажи правильную историю, как СССР опять не потерял ни единого солдата и за 3 дня взял Берлин?))
@@nikolaev.n.v нарисованный курс рубля укрепляется, все цены поднимаются)
Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Croatia, French legionnaires, Spain, Volunteers from all over Europe fought against the USSR. Even Belgium has scraped together two battalions. The whole economy of Europe worked for Germany.
Untill the Soviet advance
Didn’t matter usually if you have the USA on your side you don’t have to worry about logistics and resources
@@enriqueperezarce5485 You don't know the story at ALL. America entered the war in 1944, so that the USSR would not take over all of Europe. At the same time, several million captured German soldiers were collected in the territory occupied by the United States. The US generals wanted to use them in an attack on the USSR. And Russia finished paying the debt on the land lease in the 90th year of the last century. I recommend studying the history of the war, and then open your mouth. When you are silent, you look like a smart one. Lend-lease for Nazi Germany How American companies supplied Hitler during the War On October 1, 1941, the first lend-lease protocol was signed between the United States and the USSR, which received from. ... Lend-lease for Nazi Germany How American companies supplied Hitler during the war. On October 1, 1941, the first lend-lease protocol was signed between the United States and the USSR, which received American assistance in tanks, aircraft, fuel, products and other materials. However, American companies generously supplied their own enemies, Germany, with all this. Business - and nothing personal. American components for the Faa. In August 1934, American Standard Oil acquired 730 thousand acres of land in Germany and built large oil refineries that supplied the Nazis with oil. At the same time, the most modern equipment for aircraft factories was secretly delivered to Germany from the USA, where the production of German aircraft will begin. Germany received a large number of military patents from the American firms Pratt and Whitney, Douglas, Bendix Aviation, and the Junkers 87 was built using American technologies. By 1941, when the Second World War was raging, American investments in the German economy amounted to $475 million. Standard Oil invested 120 million in it, General Motors - 35 million, ITT - 30 million, and Ford - 17.5 million.
"When American soldiers invaded Europe in June 1944 in jeeps, trucks and tanks produced by the "big Three automobile" as a result of one of the largest military programs ever implemented," Dobbs notes, "they were unpleasantly surprised that the enemy was also moving in Ford trucks and "Opel", manufactured at 100 percent subsidiaries owned by GM, and flies planes built by Opel.
@@enriqueperezarce5485 On the eve of World War II, US corporations and banks invested $800 million in the country's industry and financial system. The amount at that time was huge. Of these, the leading four from America invested about $ 200 million in the militarized German economy: Standard Oil - 120 million, General Motors - 35 million, ITT investments amounted to $ 30 million, and Ford $ 17.5 million.
It is shocking that even after the United States entered World War II on December 11, 1941, American corporations continued to actively fulfill orders from firms of enemy countries, supported the activities of their branches in Germany, Italy and even Japan. To do this, it was only necessary to apply for a special permit to carry out economic activities with companies under the control of the Nazis or their allies. Decree of the President of the United States of December 13 , 1941 he allowed such transactions, doing business with enemy companies, unless there was a special prohibition of the Ministry of Finance of America. Very often, American corporations easily obtained permits to work with enemy firms and supplied them with the necessary steel, engines, aviation fuel, rubber, radio components… So the power of the military industry of Germany and its allies was supported by the economic activity of the United States, whose companies received super profits for their deals with the enemy. Truly, to whom is the war, and to whom is the mother…
@@enriqueperezarce5485 For the successful preparation of the war, the Nazis considered it extremely necessary to weaken Germany's dependence on the import of iron ore. In Germany there were several iron ore deposits with 20-25 percent iron content. The development of such poor ores was considered unprofitable. Nevertheless, on the basis of these deposits, the construction of three plants with an annual steel production of 6 million tons began, which accounted for a third of all steel smelting in Germany. Officially, the work was carried out by the Hermann Goering concern, but in reality they were carried out by a specially created American firm "R. Brassert." "This company," writes the English economist N. Mulen, "until then almost unknown in Germany ... turned out to be closely connected with the Reich's "autarchy" in the field of supplying it with iron ore - one of the main elements of economic independence in the production of weapons." The firm "R. Brassert was only a branch of Brassert's large Chicago firm, which collaborated with the Morgan American Trust.
Under the terms of the cartel agreements, American firms had to inform their German partners about all the technical innovations they were interested in. Thus, the firm "Baushand Lomb" willingly provided Zeiss with US military secrets and only asked to keep all information secret.
Germany Really said "Double it and give it to the next Person"
The fact that ussr causalities in Stalingrad is still more than the entire us lost
lol
It's not funny, kid
@@sovietsky5039 us didn't fight against Germany in land it fought against Japan in air and water
@@ahmedbabiker6562it mainly fought japan but also did Germany in land too. But 3/4s of us losses were in Europe
It's crazy that the germans had a 1:10 kd ratio at the start
Только не забывайте большая часть погибших это мирное население со стороны СССР
Считали только военнослужащих.
@@АлександрСаянский-ч6б Военные потери 1:1.2 то есть почти равны. Немцы сжигали деревни, города и косили мирноеинаселение, истребляли славян, сколько поляков, белорусов и русских погибло, это же ужас... Украинцы сдались, предатели. 😌
@@edwardk74 в военные потери СССР также входят и коллаборанты: власовцы, оун, просто полицаи.
Это без мирняка цифры
@@edwardk74 АХАХАХАХАХАХА КАК РАЗ ТАКИ НЕ СДАЛИСЬ КОГДА ЗАШЕЛ НЕМЕЦКИЙ РЕЖИМ НА БЕЛАРУСЬ И УКРАИНУ НЕМЦЫ ПООБЕЩАЛИ БАНДЕРЕ НЕЗАВИСИМУЮ УКРАИНУ ЗА ТО ЧТО БУДУТ С НИМИ ВОЕВАТЬУ УЧИ МИРОВУЮ ИСТОРИЮ А НЕ СОВКА И .Осии
My grandfather died on that war as a Soviet soldier.
Sus
@@alexus204 average twitter user
@@alexus204 mom
So he bleed red…. Confirm…. Commie..
Respect to your grandfather
We definitely need a video about the Northern Army when it was stuck in Kurland for 1 or 2 years?
TIKHistory did an amazing job doing it. You should watch his video: 'The Courland Pocket 1944-45 FULL BATTLESTORM History Documentary'.
It lasts for 6 hours but is full of detail.
it’s called Courland btw
@@christofertristofer9943 i was to say that, amazing documentary
Nothern Russia is not suitable for large-scale military actions. Both sides couldn't make much progress and it was a stalemate all along, until German retreated and Finland surrendered.
@@aphoenixthatexisted8 Germans call it "Kurland"
Imagine getting 20 to 1 when attacking, true powerhouse.
Shitty Soviet leadership and tactic were the reason
Well they were fighting incompetent enemies underprepared while Germany finland Allie’s out number the Soviets by 2x at the start and most of the 20-1 were pows. But still Germany was power house.
Germany didnt win despite ganging. But lost easily when allies ganged on. Tbh even soviets sent germans running alone
@@Meteorknite Im just saying that first year was a steamroll, but yes with enough bodies anything can lose. Whether or not the soviets would have won on their own is debatable im not arguing either way it is what it is.
@@rzslo9084 on their own doesnt make sense UK fought german air navy submarines. USSR fought land air forces. As for US late took IMJ attacking to fight Nazis. USSR didnt get help in atk against Axis ganging either
The irretrievable losses of the armed forces of the USSR and the Axis countries on the Eastern Front are 11,444,100 and 8,649,200 people, respectively. The deadweight ratio is approximately 1.3:1 or less. With an almost equal number of prisoners of war during the war years (4,559,000 Soviet soldiers and 4,376,300 German soldiers), 86.5%, or 3,787,000 soldiers, returned from Soviet captivity, 44.2%, or 2,016,000 from German soldier
Wrong. From the captured German soldiers of Stalingrad 85% did not come home any more.
@@markushuber214 stalingrad wasn't the only place when Germans soldiers got in captivity you know
@@vaevictis2789 Also by the time of surrender majority of German troops was malnourished and in the grip of typhoid pandemic. Thus due to the disease and malnourishment, yet, a lot of Germans didn’t survive. But to conclude that this happen due to intentional mistreatment by the Soviets is disingenuous: this was January 1943, Soviets had very poor rations themselves due to the fact that majority of their agricultural land was under German occupation. Also it wasn’t 250,000 Germans who surrendered but 91k, or nearly 1/3 of the number you gave.
Целенаправленное умерщвления поенных советских солдат в газовых камерах. Холокост советского народа!
@@valkyrie9553 Shh, it is "easy history" time. Let the guy be in his comfort zone thinking that he actually knows history.
Вот именно! Своими телами вымостили победу наши деды. Мы это не сможем забыть никогда.
Ummm yes. But also commiting war crimes while occupying other countries like Poland.
@@wiktorkopczynski8223 многие тогда были такими. Когда немецкие жители потеряли дом и бежали в поисках укрытия и пропитания, их встречали везде с презрением и злорадно им "мстили".
@@Miklosh.Prostoi countries lived under soviet occupation during the war like ukranians, greeted Germans like heroes. Soviets were the worst. Germans made the biggest mistake by hunting and exterminating Jews all across Europe. Therefore people hated them
😂😂cringe
@@Can-xi6tl Украинцы встречали немцев как героев? Советую прочитать тебе про "Бабий Яр". Думаю, после этого происшествия у жителей украины не осталось мыслей о том, что немцы - освободители от кровавого тирана Сталина. Да, местами, политика Сталина была жестокой, но такое было время. И мне кажется, что в СССР образца 1930-40 годов, жилось лучше, чем при "ОСВОБОДИТЕЛЯХ" (немцах).
Me when saw the winter I Know that fall started...
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this should be a quote
Most losses seem to come when you defence buckles and you are routed.
Most USSR loses incurred in early stages and most German loses in late stages.
Attacks innthe spring and summer were great against a lesser trained USSR force. But that doggone Russian winter is not a joke against less rugged folks.
Its interesting to see that during winters both sides slows down...
and then summer comes💀
Seeing the efficiency of the German military in the initial stages of Barbarossa makes it a bit easier to understand how they took over most of Europe in a few years. Scary to realize these are merely military deaths.
Germans were bloody exterminators, considering Ukrainans, Russians and moreover Ebrews as beasts to be killed without care.
@@Alino17 wow i didn't know that
holabunga 🥺🥺🥺😢😢😢
@@thug588 the fuck??
Ah yes my favorite "Germans vs Soviets" when some one speaks about casualties on the eastern front. WHAT ABOUT Italians, Romanians and other axis soldiers?
They dont exist(joke
The purple dots are other axis soldiers
The German losses include deaths from all other Axis nations
They are counted here
nobody cares because the total amount of them was less than 1mil. They are insignificant
Да, нам с детства эту статистику приводили на уроках истории. Это потери только Германии. На стороне Гитлера воевало ещё десяток стран и их потери постоянно игнорируют чтобы показать как советы числом закидали. Общие потери к концу войны примерно 11.5 млн у Гитлера и 13 млн СССР.
Самые большие потери понесли Советский Союз - 26,6 млн, Китай - 13,5 млн, Германия - 6,48 млн, Польша - 6 млн (из них больше половины - евреи, жертвы Холокоста), Япония - 3,76 млн и Индия - 3 млн.
@@13m0biKK и не говори, не только Холокост был над евреями, геноцид и русского народа был. И да, Германия потеряла 23 миллиона
@@АндрейЛиштвановДа но евреи пострадали очевидно больше , так как их убивали больше времени .
Soviet Union gave the ultimate sacrifice to the world. Yet we praise USA the most for their contributions.
Why?
The Soviet Union didn’t volunteer to do this. They didn’t declare war on the axis. They were pseudo axis allies and certainly collaborators that were in shock when they were attacked.
Interesting video. So funny to read commentary, ahah Ussr so much loses, ahah throw meat...
when france just sneaky capitulate! and than never! give real guerilla war... britain britain, what did britain? ah lost battle in france and after just give some battles in air, but never try to give battle in europe until it became clear that Ussr won in eastern front, they just formally being in war with Germany(maybe give some forces to help in East? pffffffff)... Same to usa, land in france in 1944? ofcorse!! its time to save Europe and take some satellites!!!
Nazis killed million innocent civilian people, soldier losses was quite same.
And then let's call our selfs heroes and liberators of Europe and never ever teach about Eastern front in schools and just ignore the massive sacrifice the Sovjet ppl did. Eastern front was a war for Sovjet survival you had 2 choices pick up a gun and die fighting or get exterminated by German ss divisions or rot in concentration camps
Damn well said
Spitting facts over here
I'd never guess English wasn't your first language
Интересно, а кто-то из авторов таких роликов использует официальные данные или они так цифры с потолка берут. И ещё не надо забывать что в германской армии помимо немцев было много солдат и из других стран. Их как тоже посчитали или просто скромно умолчали ;) а так бред полный.
Chur - ka
Chur)))ka 😊
You are right. There were many soldiers from other countries. Yet i havent found a good documentation about it yet. I wonder who and how many and if they believed the nazi propaganda and ideology or just were cannon fodder or maybe even forcibly recruited. Its know that they used children soldiers in the last days of the war "Der Volkssturm".
да, все же преуменьшить аж на 17 миллионов это сильно
Официальные данные? По официальным данным, Германия за всю войну потеряла 5.318млн. погибшими.
At such costs can you even call it a victory. Insane
that what you will call pyrrhic victory
that what you will call pyrrhic victory
yes you can
For russian and especially for russian communists it's doesn't matter how many people died, even 1 to 50 still "great victory". For them life is worthless.
Considering that if they had lost the germans would have exterminated them like they did with pretty much any russian civilian they got their hands on in the territory they captured... yes, yes it can be called a victory.
German needs to be + Axis allies (additional million+ losses). Also, this count includes non-combat deaths, especially murdered POWs. Axis had 450-500.000 in Soviet captivity, Soviets had 2,8-3,2 mllion in Axis captivity. Without POW deaths, its more like 6,8 million USSR deaths and 4,5 million Axis deaths. Thats very similary to Axis vs Western Allies in loss ratio.
POV: your big brother gives u a head start
Another countries hadn't spirit
Ehh. Funny analogy, but not a very good one. Truth be told, if the other allies hadn't invaded the west and forced Germany to redirect millions of troops, it's very likely that Germany would have won against Russia.
@Felt Whick hey psst!
Quantity > Quality
If your enemy has 10 bullets, send in 30 soldiers. An easy 10vs20
No, his daddy USA help him
American first lol
Где данные о численности армий Италии, Чехии, Румынии, Франции , Венгрии, Австрии, и т. Д.
Чушь!!!
Финны
Здесь нет данных о численности чьих-либо армий, здесь указаны потери сторон в войне.
По мнению автора они на войну не пришли. Дома остались.
calm down, jesus christ
@@cetskut3979 ты свой мог бы не писать
Don't forget that it was not only German trups ( Romanian, Lithuanian , Polish, Ukraine Austrian, Ungarian trups )
Bro Austria was germany
all of them have very low populations.
@@bluequadro9511they still amount to the population twice the size of germany
@@SimoN-vf8ps romania, bulgaria, lithuania and hungary together were weak as poland.
@@SimoN-vf8ps
population of poland 1939: 30.000.000
population of romania 1941: 13.500.000
population of hungary 1941: 10.000.000
population bulgaria 1938: 6.000.000
population of lithuania 1940: 2.200.000
population of Germany 1939: 79.000.0000
population Soviet Union. 1940: 195.000.000
the first 88k and 1.7m casuality ratio is crazy
It's only in the end when germany lost alot of their troops
Nazi Germany had less puppet states' soldiers by the end: Romanians, Croatians, Italians, Hungarians, French, Belgians and Ukrainians were either dead or had shifted against them.
That’s because they surrendered
The momentum
Germany had that first so russians lost lot
Then russia had momentum so germany lost alot
Cause in the end hitler was desperate and deployed literally anyone able to walk, and ones that refused got shot or hung as traitors
Cause Germany already running out of resources
What's insane is that despite the fact that the ratio was 10.7 - 1 in favour of Germany in late 1941.. the Soviets *still* won. I don't think there is any comparable country in history which took so many losses early on and then came back to win anyway, except maybe Rome against Hannibal.
The actual ratio is about 1.3:1
The rest of the numbers are civilians.
@@Saiga-saiga It's literally in the video.. military losses.
@@Saiga-saiga Yep, thats all Military losses my little Sovietaboo. :)
@@larsonpartisan2855author uses biased sources, there are official figures published in 1990, on the basis of which the most accurate calculations were made, the military losses of the union in the region of 8 million, which will lead to a ratio of 1.3: 1. In the source that the author uses, another 2 million are the civilian population, which German sources recorded in the partisan movement or Soviet auxiliary troops.
@@Saiga-saiga The 1.3:1 ratio is made up and has been thoroughly debunked.
The real military losses ratio Axis vs USSR is 2.5:1.
K/d ratio went from 1:10 to 1:2. Pretty impressive
That's just how numbers work, even while the Germans were losing gained territory the soviets still lost more troops just no longer at the huge ratio as the start of the war.
At the end it was the german troops that capitulated to the red army
@@lollofixxi2216 because of less manpower and resources. In terms of skill and martial prowess the soviets were far inferior to them
"If you send two soldiers for every enemy bullet you can not loose"
„All Europa VS Russia“
Only russia? And Khazakstan Ukraine Belarus Lithuana Estonia etc… cry more fvck soviet union fvck ruZZians
LOL yeah France and Britain where on germanys side. Is that what Putin told you these days?
@@natebronsen6454 нет, это то, что сказал ваш Байден, когда пожимал руку пустому месту.)
@@natebronsen6454 Actually yes, France was on German side after 1940. The French resistance is not the French state.
@@natebronsen6454 basically most of Europe. Spain was allied with Germany. The Germans invaded alongside Bulgaria Serbia Italy Romania Italy and other of its Allie’s or puppets
Забыл сюда посчитать почти всю Европу
одна голубая дивизия из испании это конечно еще пара миллионов, не иначе)
Вата такая глупая
Every Russian here: The creator should be able to tell the history right with all deaths.
Russians in reality: Do not check that the "military operation" is a war of aggression (offensive).
Because that is really military operation, not "war of aggression" 😒
@@user-vc1jn3yr3y it’s not. If a country breaks the borders and occupied areas then it’s a war. I hope u will see the true images from Ukraine instead of the Russian government stories ✌🏼
@@unknownhere4996 Ukraine is a country that has lost its sovereignty and statehood since 20.02.2014. So its borders are not in law any more
@@user-vc1jn3yr3y hey rusky you're in Georgia)?
@@gideonemerry3524 I am Ukrainian))
Don't expect?
insane to see that 3 million lives on german side alone could have been saved if only they captiulated in 1943 where the war basicaly was already lost
And have a repeat of Versaille but probably 100 times worse? They’d rather fight to the death.
@@Zaalfaald I guess that they could negotiatiate with the West and do something anti-Soviet together
@@Ломпадкасветлая nah.. Germany offered it to poland before war and to British after the beginning of the war both refused...
Germans were pretty anglophill in both wars but brits just preferred a ruin world than an equal
Im not pro german specially becuz of thier treatment of polish and ukranian and russian ppl
Iwished it was an anti bolshevik crusade rather than a war of extermination
@@Ломпадкасветлая the west wanted a unconditional surrender from Germany, there were no space for negotiation.
@@Zaalfaald Bruh you talk shit, when a nation fights till the bitter end the peace treaty will become much worse, Germany fought in reality till the end and had luck that the allies saw the mistakes done in Versailles.
i cant even imagine what a million bodies would look like and who they each were nevermind 15+million mann thats crazy so much destruction
By Russian sources they lost much more. And my grandfather said loses were too much. I am from Uzbekistan and my people lost 1.5m in WWII
Тут именно военные потери. Гражданских погибло ещё больше
1,5 its very big,i think 1 mln,no more
Never trust a word that comes from the mouth of a russian.
Зря Сталин их пощадил в 45.
Почему?
Зря Гітлер не йобнув сталіна
@@fatontv8603 ты же понимаешь, что если бы это произошло ни Украины, ни России, ни тебя, ни твоих родных бы не было
@@Волонтёры.РФ мені похуй, я нацист
@@fatontv8603 можешь забрать своих унтерменши Украинцев с Польши. (Я Поляк), Слава Польши, Слава Польскому народу!
Вики по первой же ссылке даёт совсем другие цифры!
Тупая пропаганда
@@andreysamuylik8047 я тебе отошлю книгу настоящую советскую про все подробности операций и наступлений как немцев так и советской армии... в одной битве за Москву немцы потеряли около млн и наши чуть больше и больше орудий потому что у немцев была авиация хорошая но все равно их отымели.... под ржевом наши потери 1200000 млн у немцев около 700000....так же у них была лучше авиация и артилерия но наши их уебали по самое незочу ценой миллиона солдат..это не сейчас тебе точечными ракетами джойстиком управлять. Также Сталинградская битва против СССР воевали 5 союзных стран вермахта каждая насчитывалось по 200- 300т плюс немецская армия 400 т прекрасно оснащеная армия техникой авиацией фаустпатронами и танковой дивизией и в два раза больше авиацией. Но это из не спасло..Паулс был в ахуе...есть много фактов то что жтот долбаеб на главной теме показывает это его бурные фантазии. СССР воевал не с германие, СССР воевал с Европой и надавал ей люлей.
@@andreysamuylik8047 в чём пропаганда?
В вики пишут все кому не лень,это не истина в последней инстанции
Но этот видос то точно не ошибается😁
I’m curious what percentage of 1941 Wehrmacht soldiers who participated in Operation Barbarossa survived the war. Maybe 15%?
About 25-30%
@ interesting. Seems like an awful lot. Are you sure?
@@lorimeyers3839 Most of them probably were NCO's and officers who were pulled back to Reich after being wounded and performed duties in training facilities.
One of the greatest sacrifices for one of the greatest victories
They both were evil... if Germans didint killed any jews (genocide), I even would be rooting for germans, then soviets.
@@kerstas10 So that then Germany will take over the world?
@@___KpuTuK___ braindead take
@@kerstas10But they did kill not only Jews but many other minorities.
And it's was VERY central to their ideology.
Those Ukrainians will do the same thing with Europe if they could.
@@SimoN-vf8ps okay ruSSian troll. Now go back to your cave
when i was in school, at the victory parade one of the veterans said "after the Jews, the slavs were second in line for extermination." and the fact that i had these two ethnic groups mixed in my blood horrified me. the nazis destroyed entire villages and small towns of ordinary peasants, freeing up land for their needs. no matter how cruel stalin's army was, they did not go the nazi way, they did not take revenge by extermination
Для вас он был жесток для нас он был героем
@@ftbzik5926 а что, собственно, героического он совершил? весь героизм совершил советский народ, жуков, василевский, рокоссовский, конев - вот это настоящие добытчики победы. сталин лишь довольствовался их успехами, которые присвоил себе. сам же он по сути тиран и убийца. называть его героем - плевок в лицо миллионам его жертв во время перенаселения и репрессий.
@@kutkoban да этот тиран и убийца котовй не чего не делал по сути под своим руководством поднял страну в остановил всё а также довёл страну до того что мы 1 улетели в космос.
Nazi worth the die!! Soviet Union is true heroes
Что хотели сказать? Что мы шапками закидали? А ничего, что кроме германии, мы со всей европой воевали?
Лето 46000 немецких солдат это где то неполных 5 дивизий ))))вы серьезно считаете что на ссср наступало пять дивизий
Это потери)
The casualty comparison alone is just crazy.
10 MILLION FKIN SOLDIERS!??
Yeah, its a nightmare.
Real number is closer to 8.1 million.
Yes, it’s it between 8.6 million dead/missing - up to 12 million. Germans lost c. 5 000 000 dead and missing in total of which 3.300.000 up to 4.3 million killed on Eastern Front. That pretty much proves the calculated 75-80% of all German casualties indeed in Eastern Front.
@@joonamikkonen_ why no Britain and america help Russia from startwhy they wait years till war was nearly over to invade Europe
バグラチオン作戦での反攻以降のソ連の進撃スピードが速すぎる…
Da steht der Ukraine ja noch was bevor
It’s not fast Germany started to giving up from russian land were they didn’t had a good defensive line so they were fortifying and retreating till they got to Poland border were they had a better defensive line they had build bunkers… like they did in the coastal areas of France.
@@mc22pt43 no
@@mc22pt43 no
это договорная мясорубка была
Make the same video for the western front 1940 and a new for 1944-45
And a new for africa and asia
Pls
This was a great video !
Ещё было примерно 2-3млн немцев в плену (думаю их можно учесть)
For the losing side Germany sure has a godly kdr
2 K/D is good but not godly
@@josefptacek113 in 1941 year they had 11.5 kdr which was pretty godly and it was 7.5 in 1942 pretty solid. They lost most their men in 1944-45 when it was known they already lost the war but were forced to keep fighting rather than surrender.
@@John333Scout yeah but average K/D is 2
@@John333Scout still a 2K/D tho?
@@hegaliandialectics4289 if you include the losses of German allies such as Italy and Romania on the Eastern front it becomes only 1.3
Soviet casualties are around 27,000,000, including civilians. That's like 10-15% of the Soviet Union population, jeez..
Different soviet republic had suffered more ukraine 25% belarus 30% of their population
Imagine if these wars never happened. And all these people lived. Imagine how many more people would be alive today, including their children and grandchildren.
What you said is so brutally true. In the Iliad Jupiter says in the beginning that he started the war in Troy for this exact reason. Overpopulation.
...And this is the reason we will have another world war soon...
Blame hitler and the japanese emperors they started the war. Stabbing to the back
Germany: "Oh no we are losing so much men, how could we ever replenish them"
USSR: "Pfft Pocket Change"
The numbers in this video are problematic because they come from two very different studies.
On the one hand, the study about Soviet losses, Krivosheev, has been consistantly critized for giving an estimate that is too low.
On the other hand Overman's study about German losses has been critized for being too high.
+ None of these books gives accurate numbers about the losses of the smaller Axis countries.
Lev Lopukhovsky and Boris Kavalerchik book "The Price of Victory" does the right thing: putting 2 high-end estimates against each others and discusses about the minor countries losses.
@Victor Varganov According to Overmans, around 4 million soldiers died vs the Soviets due to all causes (5.318.000 during WW2), including around 363k recorded POW death in USSR.
Due to Overmans methodology many men that died after the war are included in wartime deaths, and his numbers needs to be lowered by a few 100,000s but it's impossible to know how many exactly. Swedish historian Niklas Zetterling wrote an article about this in his book "Normandy 1944".
According to the "Price of Victory" the Soviets made 1.415.000 German POWs up to May 8th, 1945.
My pick on German total of "irrecoverable losses" (dead + POW): 4.000.000 dead + 1.415.000 millions POWs - 363.000 dead POW (to avoid double counting) - 200.000 (to reduce Overmans overcounting) = 4.852.000 and not 5.676.000.
If we add dead + POW of Axis minors (numbers from TPoV) we get + 404.100 dead (not including POW deaths) + 634.600 POW
= 5.890.700 dead & captured Axis soldiers (corresponding Soviet number with Polish/Romanians/Finns/Bulgarians allies is 14.654.000).
Not counted are millions of cases of wounds . Total losses dead + POW + wounded are around 11-12 millions for the Axis and near 30 millions for the USSR and its smaller allies.
And they think Russia can't sustain it's losses against Ukraine right now 😅
A. Soviet are more than Russia, it have Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltics, the Caucasians, the 'Stans , now it's Russia only against Ukraine only.
B. The world war II have a profound effect on Soviet population, to simply put, they simply bled dry and the baby boom took place in the west are weak or absent in the Soviets , the russia right now is a country with ageing and dwindling population instead of the young and thriving population like the Soviets at 1930s
Russia is not soviet Union. Russian economy on 2022 has not even surpassed soviet economy of 1989 which was $2.7 trillion. Russian army is 1/6th of soviet army and equipment
@@Akshayattr1 what about Ukraine 2022?
They are the invaders..
@@ДмитрийРокин-ф7б ukraine isn’t exactly a powerhouse either, but they’ve received top notch equipment from NATO & most definitely got good instruction and guidance from experienced NATO officers, like the ones who capitulated iraq in three weeks
it's almost quality vs quantity at the start, but it's really sad seeing all those people especially civilians die because of a war that wasn't caused by them
В начале войны у немцев в личном составе было 4 365 500 солдат, а не какие-то 10000 тысяч.
@@ЧВК-в9н That 10,000 number is referring to deaths.
USSR/Russia always prefer quantity, they never cared about human lives.
Russian inactivity and cowardly herd behavior led to their demise :/ russians r a plague TBH
@@metsasuomalainen3691 ошибаешься, а может и вовсе не знаешь, большая часть погибших Российского населения, это мирное население, которых фашисты в лагерях смерти мучали, сжигали, убивали и прочее миллионами
From being on the brink of losing your capital to taking enemy capital is an insane clutch on the Soviet part and a certified bottle moment on the German part.
PS: Apparently Nazis were so bad that despite being insanely successful at the start they rushed and bottled it. That's what you call _Skill Issue_
Yeah with 1:2 death ratio
These animations are far the most accurate. Brilliant job
all displayed numbers are fake as well as all total losses indicated here.
FALSE! They forgot to count Italians, Romanians, Fins, Hungarians, Slovaks and so on. On June 22, 1941, 5.5 million soldiers and officers of Nazi Germany and its satellites invaded the USSR, and the Wehrmacht troops numbered 8.5 million people!
Insane part is that Soviets lost 1 million soldiers per advance!
Those are staggering numbers. 11 million is more than twice the amount of my country's population. It is hard to contemplate so much loss of human life.
Same as today - a russian live is unimportent to their leadership. ;) Slava Ukraini!
@@Upuauta a typical Ukrainian who forgot that all the peoples of the Soviet Union took part in the Second World War and Ukrainians too
wiki google original commentator
I love how when they reached Romania the whole territory just switched sides
Understandable though. When you're caught between two titans slaughtering each other, you choose the one who wins.
If you stand with the loosing one, you won't be slaughtered, like he will. You will be annihilated. Romania choose what's right - the lives of it's people. Which is kinda respectable even, due to the time when human lives costed exactly zero.
@@ik2254 at the same time, it enforces that all lives lost for the axis fight were indeed vain. It probrably made the deaths of soldiers that fought against the soviets even sadder for the families, knowing they died for nothing
@@andreysilva8418 all wars essentially are fought for nothing. Every war ends with peace conference.
There is no need for wars rn
@@ik2254 wars are not essentially fought for nothing, all the progress we made today are because of wars, it is part of the process for human learning.
it was the european crusade against bolshevism to secure the continent from Red beast and asiatic flood....
...only when they're winning
That is alot of Soviet losses, 11.2 Million Russian Casualties compared to 5.6 Million German Losses...
Heavy losses on soviets and yet Germany had multiple fronts to contend with,
Like.... on the first 5 million russian casualties, around 700k germans only were as casualties... the next 5 million Russian casualties were then to the germans as 5 million casualties, the germans really lost hand of it after 1942.
Those losses cames from end of 1944 to the end of the war. And here the german was incapable to fight oh they also thrown inexpierneces soldiers into battle who just straight up surrender the best chance they got
The eastern front was such an important front in WW2, the sacrifices made by the red army to save their motherland from nazism, truly they got hit the worst from WW2
and then right after that Churchill proclaimed cold war, which lasted for decades
Not only motherland... USSR saved all Europe... From nazism...
@@maestro_of_basketball maybe even more then that.
Wow I never knew we lost so much at Odessa. Are POWs included?
Soviet losses are included with pows, while german are just casualties.
Нет, сражения за Одессу закончились несколько раньше. Судя по хронологии и местности расположение это может быть лишь Ясско-Кишеневская наступательная операция.
@@ArmaDino22so all of those blue dot in germany mid 1945 are german soldier being massacred?
Glory forever to the 24 million heroes of the Red Army who made the ultimate sacrifice in the fight to eradicate fascism. They died so that we could live.
„Heroes” xD
It went from a 1:10 loss to just 1:2, that's quite impressive for the Soviets.
Impressive for the germans you mean
Not really tho
Yeah they massively improved later in the war.
@@DrJones20 They did improved alot but well a good 1:5.7 ratio was still there for the germans in early 1944. 1941and to some degree 1942 was just a fiasco. Still they lost a lot more men due to poor chain of supply and command as well as incompetent leadership and most notably the willingness of doing attacks with no real gain. See counteroffensive of 1941 and in 1942 after Operation Uranus.
Because Germans couldn't supply as many soldiers and equipment. Despite enormous losses, Russians outnumbered Germans 2 to 1 in 1942 (1941 were roughly equal). In later stages of the war they had also problem with equipment, because of allies bombing western Germany.
Мы никогда не забудем какой ценой наши предки получили эту победу над фашистами.Не было бы СССР,не было бы победы на фашистской Германией!
не было бы ссср (совка) - не было бы и второй мировой войны!
@@путлер_в_Гааге Ленин во всем виноват💀🧢
@@путлер_в_Гаагеиди в гулаг !!!