Actually, ESA has a bigger budget than Roscosmos, making it the second space agency in the world. Also, unfortunately Roscosmos is mostly focused on Soyuz to the ISS, and a bit dying. IN the meantime, ESA has it's own GPS system (Galileo), went to comets (Rosetta), Mars surveillance (MARS TGO), soon to be Mars rover (2022 Rosalyn Franklin), astronautss, fully independant space access (Kourou Space Center in French Guiana), plenty of Earth observation satelites. One thing is that it is mainly ran by France (with the CNES as space agency) and Germany (with DLR), which means many military and political programs are out of the realm of the ESA and managed by member states
@@LogicallyAnswered keep in mind that the ESA budget is focused on science only. The military and political matters are dealt by the respective national space agencies. (CNES in France manages plenty of military sattelites but they are financed by France directly)
Or Planck that sees the cab or GAIA , OR ANY of the telescopes they have in space and on earth that have shown us things we wouldn't have seen without them? Idk .. Ok vid but so much was missed .
I think the ESA being overlooked by the public is mostly due to it's multi-national nature, lower funding and a lack of interest in space in europe. Me as a european, I feel like we are lagging behind in the space field, and it a shame that we're doing nothing to catch up.
Well, we are lacking behind in everything. And as soon as someone starts building a factory, people start talking about endangered frogs and bees. Europe is rapidly becoming a technological backwater due to all the regulations, high taxes, pessimism, lazy workers, no entrepreneurial spirit etc.
To be honest, at the moment everyone is falling behind. At the moment no one can keep up to spacex. Maybe there will be room to make a fully reusable launcher in a few years when spacex has answered all the initial questions about the new type of launcher. However there is a lot of possibility outside the launch industry. Like mining and space stations. Esa should really try to get new private companies started in these fields.
@@macjonte What about rocket lab? They are still behind them but they are competing. They already forced (I think it might be too strong word) to make Transporter mission for small sats, now they want to build medium class rocket (half power of Falcon 9 but still), also they have photon which is basically satellite template (it will deliver payloads to multiple orbits), and they have very fast production (they make electron in weeks or even days). Also there is private company that wants to make space station called Axiom Space.
ESA is more focused in environmental sattelites, than in exploring the space...in that way ESA is more in the practical side and less in the adventure side. And also it doesn t have such a big budget as NASA.
That’s true. As for the budget though, while ESA doesn’t get as much as NASA and Roscosmos, they do get much more than nearly everyone else like ISRO, SpaceX, and Blue Origin.
@Maryo_Nicle7 so, what countty is? Space is another game. USA has plans for shit on mars, EU has plans for shit on the moon and then use the moon to make further travels. The matter in this video is just poorly researched.
@@LogicallyAnswered Please get your facts straight before publishing a video. According to Wikipedia ESAs budged is ~2,5 times that of Roskosmos. And with that ESA has done way more missions to space than Russia during the last 20 years.
@@LogicallyAnswered esa's budget is three times higher than Roscosmos lol, you're showing some pretty serious gaps in knowledge on the topic you just made a video about here in the comments section...
You have forgotten one big and most important part where ESA stands out: Science projects. Many of ESAs achievements are in science and technology and very valuable. ESA has its own Deep Space Network and contributed many instruments to NASA missions. ESA never had its own manned space ships and that is why people think that ESA is behind, which can´t be further from the truth. Have you ever heard about Planck, Herschel, Exosat, Hipparcos, Beppicolombo, Gaia, Artemis, Lisa pathfinder, Cheops, Integral, XMM-Newton and so many more? ESA contributed to the Hubble Space Telescope and many of the famous Hubble Photos were taken by ESA instruments. ESA is also a partner on the James Webb Space Telescope.
@@suborbitalpada6609 the comment is technically correct just poorly worded. It's the USA's capsule but it uses an old service module from the ESA, like you said
Just a pet peave of mine, as someone who has lived with ESA (family work there) all my life, no one calls it "The E.S.A", everyone just says ESA (pronounced like the name "Isa"). As a side note I had a metal toy Orion rocket growing up, awesome thing xD
Europe landed a probe on a meteorite once, by launching it, swinging the probe arround the moon, then arround mars, then arround earth and then swung it towards a comet
@swampy lamp Nasa literally has the Parker solar probe getting like 7 gravity assists from Venus. Juno did a gravity assist around earth in 2013. So yes Nasa has done gravity assists. And in fact has done more gravity assists than any one else.
ESA Usually helps nasa with their project, but the U.S. takes all the credit and doesn't give esa the attention they need, so unusual that the Americans take all the credit.
To be fair, NASA is doing most of the job when it comes to space missions. But I guess ESA deserves credit for the satellites and other scientific equipment they ve built.
@@smintiger1251 I can talk about dozens more people dont know about.. even if ESA publish extensively about it.. A big chunk of the problem is that a lot of what we see online is PR repetition from US centric media, that obviously is US centric.
Can you make a Video about all the probes ESA is launching. I researched a lot about this and I think that the probes are the best we got out there. Especially the Stuff that goes beyond Moon and Mars is very intresting.
You want to do something around ESA’s Themis, Prometheus and Callisto projects; all aimed at mastering reusability, and ultimately helping figure out the Ariane Next.
Your title query, "What Happened to the European Space Agency?" raises a relevant question. From my perspective, government agencies are unfairly bound by political interference rather than long-term objectives and funding. Governments are driven by, in the free world, popular opinion with regards to elections. Yet, the elected leaders often mislead the public and follow their own objectives after they enter office. I learned a lot about ESA when they became involved in the NASA Cassini-Huygens mission to Titan. They played a minor part in the Huygens probe. Still, it was interesting to study how much effort was placed into what appeared to be simple technology - on the surface. In actuality, it was a complicated compilation of Engineering. ESA does not receive the credit they deserve for their contributions. For example, SpaceX is at the top of my list of innovations in Space Exploration. The reason being they are a private company and aren't nearly as shackled by government intervention. In fact, without their innovation, we would still depend upon Russia to hitch a ride to the ISS. ESA would fare well by involving themselves more with private organizations. You provided great coverage, although a bit hurried. Howbeit, comprehensive and presented under the usual time constraints of short videos. Great job! Jeff
@Vitamin protein There are some recently founded german startups with bigger and more ambitious plans than ESA. They are even partly funded by ESA to develope launchers. Similar to how NASA founds ULA, SpaceX and Blue Origin. Other european countries have some startups too, Scotland for example. I hope, those are sucessful, ESA is pretty boring currently. And like NASA restricted by government regulations and funding. They have to deliver a certain thing at a certain time without much room for innovation. Or any urge to compete with others.
@@MMadesen maybe also because Europe getting older and also ESA represents a group of countries vs NASA or China’s equivalent so nationalism push to spend more (to out do the others) is not there. Not saying that it’s good or bad though just possibly reasons.
Except that environmental causes are directly intertwined with space exploration. More satellites for monitoring changing climates and conditions helps track climate change and its effects. Industry wise? Commercializing space is a great move for the environment, specifically because mining asteroids can be one of the actual best sources of materials that are currently mined on Earth, typically within lower economically development countries, mainly third world. Mining in space, manufacturing, and production in space can begin to shift industries to a better and more economical option for them, as well as providing incentive for stopping exploitation of lower economically developed countries, their land, and their people.
The different ESA headquarters exist because bigger states wants geographic return, they later specialised in different programs according to the project the nation of interest was opted in
It is a political decision. ESA is based on contribution of many countries and of their national space agencies. It's facilities are spread as much as possible and EVERY contributing country gets return in form of contracts to its industries, and grants to science and research groups in that country. ESA also tries to draw its staff from all member states, proportional to its contribution. Even a very small country with only a small national budget like Luxembourg can contribute and get access to space technology and eventually send a satellite or contribute parts to projects of ESA or space agencies of the other nations. Yes, it is complicated and takes longer, but in the end all sides benefit from it.
Because comparable to its size, they still haven’t got anything remarkable to show the world. Whereas Indian space agency with literally a tenth of esa budget is far more advanced technically and working on it’s own crew mission.
I'm not sure if ESA is as irrelevant to the public eye as you may think. Some of my friends who have absolutely no interest in Space Exploration do know about ESA and what they do. At least they have heard of Arian rockets.
Aside from Giotto and Rosetta, ESA were never “first” at doing space things and this may be the reason why they don’t get the attention that they deserve. Also, they don’t have an independent human flight launch program which is the real headline grabber. However, it is safe to say that they get plenty of recognition at home and future projects to the outer planets and the Gateway to the Moon will be quite amazing
Working at CNES (French Space Agency). I would say that Europe is more focused on how to work/handle the space. Like law for the space junks, how to refurbish old satellites. How to optimized the food sent to the ISS and for future long space travel. What are the planet minerals etc.. Which put them in the background because it's not about sending rockets All over like NASA or other space agencies (It doesn't mean that NASA is doing wrong. We need them in order to go further in these domains) That's why ESA is teaming with NASA by sending astronauts to the ISS. And That's why NASA is teaming up with ESA to create better food in the ISS, instruments like the ones on the ISS or on all mars rovers.
I think a major reaosn is simply that the EU has not centyralized and become a federated state. If the EU is actually turned into a European superstate, you'll ee more attention given to it (also a lot more funding and manned explorations).
Hey, so I criticized your video about a month ago, but just subbed because of your most recent Airbus and Boing vids that were great. I think you should come around and try to better tackle this subject again, on a longer video, because the ESA history and achievement are complex and many, that's one of the reason people don't hear as much about it than others.
ESA does not have attention grabbing missions. - They have no manned launches, not even in development. - They have no rovers like Curiosity or even Opportunity. Rosalind Franklin may change that, but that's in the future. - They have a single successful lander - Huygens. It was over 20 years ago, and produced few, if any, images that captured the imagination. Schiaparelli failed. The mentioned Beagle 2 failed (and was also British, not ESA). So nothing flashy for the public. - Most of their missions are either scientific (mapping gravity/climatology/magnetosphere/xray observatories, trace gasses trackers) that do not provide nice pictures for the media, or they are support (launch services, modules for ISS and cargo resupply) that do not carry nearly as much publicity. - Most of their headline-grabbing "firsts" were decades ago. For example Mars Express, their first Mars orbiter, was launched in 2003. They are seen as doing more of the same, while China and India are having their "firsts" just now, with the prestige boost it carries. This all means a lot of scientific papers, but few images to go viral. The most they can do lately is pretty rocket launches, but SpaceX and Rocket Lab made this a commodity of high supply. They are a scientific heavyweight, but not in the public's mind. They have very advanced technology (e.g. rocket engines), but are not utilizing if effectively. Their funding is lower than NASA's or China's, and it is more politically vulnerable, as Europe is not as united as US or China. The whole political machinery is slow to make decisions, and does not always take the best ones. Space access that needs to be protected, but that's one of the few common goals among countries. France is reluctant to develop reusable rockets, because this would mean lost jobs, but Germany is reluctant to pay through the nose for expendable launchers when commercial ones are available for a fraction of the cost.
this article is a mess... frist ESA+EASA is the equivalent to NASA just a much smaller budget. for the european equivalent to Space X you need to look at Ariane Space. ESA contracts Ariane space to develop its rockets, similar to what NASA does with SpaceX, ULA, Boeing etc... Moon NASA efforts include ESA as a major contributor,(will include an European astronaut), one of the parts done on budget and on time , is ESA part in the project. In terms of science on the subject of earth observation esa is by far the leading world contender. People are over hyped about SpaceX, but that is just rockets a mature technology we humans mastered a few decades ago, it's technologically a nothing compared to say the mars probes from NASA. if you are interested i can place hundreds of great amazing stuff done by esa. People dont know about it??? sure but most people dont know much about anything, and budget of esa should be spent on science not hype...
ESA is not a massive power like Nasa or spaceX but it supports them in a way. They conduct experiments that can help every other company. They also help with a lot of Nasa's projects giving her with info and also creating hardware for her sometimes
Huh, I always pronounced as the separate letters. I just think that it's a bit more clear what you are talking about if you say the letters separately because otherwise people could maybe more easily misunderstand it for something else
Yes you are definitively right. The esa was born before the EU and this shows Europe doesn't need more bureaucracy to make great achievements. Too more horrible blue flags. the EU is a trap for the people of Europe.
@@tricosteryl The EU is the only future Europe has if we don't want to disappear before the US and China. It is also a gatekeeper of liberty and democracy, much more than the US. And go follow a class of European Law and Treaties before saying the EU is not democratic
@@arthemis1039 EC is a lobby of non elected persons, non controlled, that dictates poverty to the people of Europe. I just cant imagine how educated people can believe that non elected leaders might be liberty or democracy champions... It is exactly the contrary! And with 20 years of EC behind us, we just can see that since then things are getting worse and worse in many countries. and there is no sign of improvement in the coming 10 years. The only country that managed to resist is Germany. Because German leaders think Germany first. And they managed to grab all the positions of power within the EC. EC peace ? and what about Libya, Syria, Yougoslavia, Ukraine ? This is peace ? Do you think that the aggressive behaviour towards Russia is a will of peace ?
ESA has a lot of space telescopes, and with Kopernikus a really advanced earth observing program, but you are right manned space flight gets more attention
I work for a small company that does some research projects funded by ESA. Essentially like most of these large organisations its main function is to funnel government money into research and to support employment of highly trained engineers. However, unlike Russia, China, USA, or India despite what the EU may want you to think or advertise, there is no strong European identity. Each member state within Europe thinks and defines themselves primarily by their home nation. A French person is French, a German person is German, a British person is British, Spanish person a Spaniard ect. If some cool research is done in a French research lab, no one outside France gives a crap, its wont even be reported on outside France. Thus, the collective achievements of ESA are much more diluted.
@Yuk Tsang did I say it was? My point was about identity. People in Europe don't define themselves by the EU. It's still a coalition of seperate nation states. Each nation state has it's own self interest. This is why of the global power blocs, the EU is the most Burocratic and least efficient.
ESA, and European countries in general, place themselves in the role of subjecting US dominance rather than serving their own interests. ESA provides systems that NASA subsequently takes credit for, for example, future trips to the moon, how many are aware of how big a role ESA plays in making this possible? In Europe, we have a challenge to put ourselves under systems from the United States, instead of making ourselves free and independent.
300th comment. Keep in mind Europe haves to pay for all that free food, vacations, housing, college and Healthcare most of it's citizens get. Then they pay for other things like space travel.
ESA is not NASA, but it an honour to be part of ESA, it has his own astronaut corp, that works with NASA and the CSA and JAXA, if the people really knows how ESA is, they will be very proud of it as me
They also are working together with NASA for e.g. the Webb Telescope. And maybe not ESA, but one of the things that will be studied by that telescope are the 7 planets of the TRAPPIST-1 red dwarf star. That was discovered by the Belgian TRAPPIST telescopes. Maybe better to work together in the future then to focus who was best.
Long before the ESA was created, in 1964 Italy was the fith country to send a satellite in space, the San Marco 1, after the USSR, the USA , UK and Canada, using a Scout rocket purchased frome the USA. In 1967 Italy launched the San Marco 2 satellite from its own sea base off the shores of Kenia, which still exists today as a space control base. Unfortunatelly, after this good start, the italian space programs were not politically supported enough for a certain time. Now Italy gives its collaboration to ESA in all space fields, including light launchers with the VEGA project.
That's why I don't like living here in Europe. You can't really make a good career at ESA from what I've read and the only significant aerospace company is Airbus, nothing for astronautical things tho. We need a private space company here in Europe and that's what I'll try to accomplish in the future.
@@neeljavia2965 VG's headquarters are in New Mexico as far as I know, so it's just another US company. While VG has accomplished quite a few things, they are no where near SpaceX or something.
It’s ESA... not E.S.A. - just like NASA... not N.A.S.A. 😅🤗 could have done some more research about our space agency but overall good video! Keep at it!
they didn't get highlighted because their biggest achievements isn't completely done on their own, NASA and ESA jointly did it. and we all know how if NASA is involved we gonna hear the news " NASA did this and this" not "NASA and ESA did this and this"
me, seeing the title : "oh, cool, i want to see that" me, after watching the video : _cries in french_ Talking about the esa without mentioning the role of France in the whole thing is... fascinating. Long before the ESA existed, France under the leadership of Charles de Gaulle decided that we were not willing to become a second rank country and thus we must have a self sufficient space program, and what was said was done. Eventually neighboring countries decided to join but if we didn't build 80-90% of the rocketry expertise on our own the ESA wouldn't have been formed in the first place. typically the brits dissolved their entire space program to buy launches on american rockets for the rest, i think a large part of the answer to "why is ESA invisible" lies in usual american navel-gazing attitude, missing that time we landed a probe on a comet is a bit disappointing. but to be honest, the ESA has issues. i think they are really bad at public communications, our politicians have little to no ambition of doing great things and having to convince multiple countries to do anything certainly doesn't help. also the ESA is more of a space related research institute than a proper space agency like nasa. most of the money and effort is spend financing "noble science" and little on actually sending stuff in space, but overall they have their shit together and in terms of competance are only second to NASA.
Did they ever went to moon like Russia?Did they ever went on Mars like India or china? Do they have thier own gps system like India and China, they only succeed little with the help of NASA .
@@LogicallyAnswered you could have done some more research about the name of your main subject - it’s Like interviewing someone and getting their name wrong throughout the whole interview..... difficult to listen to! Better luck Next time!
The difference is ESA is no where near as commercial in comparison with the likes of NASA, they also do not merch or promote themselves as the likes of NASA, therefor most of the global population regardless of them even living in Europe, will most likely be able to answer you what NASA is, but ask them ," hey did you see what ESA/ESTEC achieved?" They will probably respond with " eh who?".
Roscosmos hasn't been relevant for decades. They're still just using technology from the Soviet era and hasn't many any noticeable advancements since. One thing that American launch companies have that I think is extremely important is just being able to launch right in front of the public eye. Launches like SpaceX has really whipped up the public's imagination and has really reignited the spirit for the space sector and the public approval is extremely important. After several Apollo missions, people just didn't care anymore and when the public interest is lost, funding goes with it. The ESA might have a better launch location in French Guiana but it's far, they have to have their rockets and spare parts shipped which adds on to the cost and most importantly, it's not visible to most Europeans unless they fly there. SpaceX launches are extremely visible and living here in Southern California, whenever a Falcon 9 launches during Twilight it really puts on one hell of a show that can be seen across multiple states for hundreds and hundreds of miles and that generates interest which is very undervalued by the ESA. SpaceX has to make Space sexy and they've done just that from the design of their ships to their flight suits to their ambitions. They know that if they want to achieve their goals, they have to be 2 steps ahead of the competition and always one step ahead of themselves. Once Starship becomes viable, they can't just rest on their laurels and wait for the "next SpaceX" to come along and eat their lunch. They know they'll have to eventually go beyond Starship's capabilities and start experimenting with nuclear engines (that are already being looked at by the US government) for true space travel without having to rely on planetary timings. The ESA on the other hand isn't or wasn't interested in such things. They're a jobs creator interested in keeping European launch independence. They're the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" type. And that's exactly why a company like SpaceX was able to sneak in and eat their lunch. It's the same thing with Apple back in 2006 with the iPhone. They came in and introduced something the rest of the market scoffed at and the rest is history.
ESA isn't simply focussed on its own achievements. It exists to support European space interests and its industry. If a European company wanted to do do privately what ESA was doing (Telecom satellites, Earth Observation, Launchers, Navigation...) ESA would support the private industry to become successful in that area and would not compete with them. Also a lot of what ESA does is recommending where combined European funding should be spent to improve the competitiveness of the industry.
The problem with ESA is that is not a national effort, so it doesn't have the natural boost that every national agency benefit. Coupled that with a low than average PR operation and in the end the only one that really know where ESA level is or what they are doing, are european nerds. The average european person is simply not interested enough due to intereuropean effort. There's a lack of pride or joy in European operation effort..
@@adityashukla2635Esa ranks above only in budgets but not in achievements Did they ever went to moon like Russia?Did they ever went on Mars like India or china? Do they have thier own gps system like India and China, they only succeed little with the help of NASA .
Sorry EU citizens, here in the USA I’ve always heard or maybe assumed ESA was pronounced as E.S.A. (With Letters). Now we know, no slight is intended. In my opinion ESA either isn’t initiating flashy projects or when it does a flashy project (ie Mars) it hasn’t been the first. Anyway, right now SpaceX owns all eyeballs, even those that once adored NASA for reasons that seem obvious.
ESA is majorly leaded by ASI (Italian Space Agency), Rosetta mission, Galileo, MARS TGO, Marsis probe, the discovery of wather on Mars, SkyMed satellite, Vega Rockets, ExoMars Schiapparelli landing trial....all stuff did by Italians. France and Germany just gived their laboratories and landing pad in French Guiana. Actually ASI have a strict collaboration with NASA (since the Voyager mission) for Exomars mission as for Artemis moon mission, where the Italians of the ASI will not only build the Lunar habitative modules but also a comunication system based on nanosatellites between Earth and moon, using the Italian nanosatellites Argomoon. What people lack is informations, expecialky upon the Italian space history (the greatest after USA and Russia one), every NASA mission have something shared with Italians in it, for example the internal part of the Space Shuttle was built by ASI, the ISS dome where the Earth shine also was made by Italians (as a lot of ISS modules and even the Voyager itself have Italian made stuff in it. The Italians was the first to land a probe upon an asteroid (Rosetta mission) to discovery wather on Mars....and on and on.
Eh, ive always though CNES and France made a step back by joining the ESA. If we followed De Gaulle's vision we'd have had our own manned missions and launchers..
It’s all about marketing. ESA’s marketing is poor or even non existent. ESTEC is located in the Netherlands and I hardly ever spend a thought on it, while I don’t miss a thing about SpaceX. The tragedy of ESA is not only that many countries are involved. Everything spectacular (rocket launches) happened in Guyana, at the other side of the world. On top of that it was never made clear what effects space technology has on our daily lives. In the sixties it was a race between USA and the USSR - the superpowers. Now China and India are joining the race, as contenders, challenging the degrading superpowers. The tragedy of Europe is that everybody outside of Europe sees their inhabitants as Europeans, except the Europeans themselves.
We'll see what will happen this year, because the esa was granted a rather deserved budget of 1/3rd the NASA's. This is more than the double of what they had in the past, let's see what will come out of this !
"The ESA successfully landed Beagle 2 on Mars." (7:24) Say what? ESA declared the mission lost in February 2004, after numerous attempts to contact the spacecraft were made. It was a total failure.
Ah you’re right! The ESA history page cleverly only states that Beagle 2 was successfully launched. It doesn’t mention anything about the landing haha.
@@LogicallyAnswered They actually found Beagle 2 using the MRO back in 2015, and were able to combine multiple images to create a higher resolution one in 2016 showing the state of the lander, and it turns out it *did* successfully land, but it failed to deploy its antenna -- the final petal to deploy got stuck, blocking deployment of the antenna. Consequently what likely happened is that the lander happily ran in a low-power mode from its deployed solar panels, until it finally, inevitably died with its memory full of data that would never be retrieved. Also, technically Beagle 2 was only carried by an ESA spacecraft, but the lander itself was run by the badly-underfunded UK Space Agency, which is not part of the ESA.
The problem with ESA they launch from french Guiana, you really need to launch from your own soil to get people motivated, not some colonial territory that has its politics manipulated to stay part of France.
It’s a shame your visuals don’t match the narrative. Also important historical elements are missing such as the way the ELDO launcher was to be built and the fact that both France and UK both ran independent missile and launcher programmes.
Those are 4 of the list. There are several more. NASA 2022 ? Could be a ghost "town" ! Dec 2024 ! NASA is unlikely to exist. ???? Sept 2024 ??? -- 15 Space Agencies, have colonies on the Moon ? -- 7 Space Agencies, have colonies on Mars ? -- NASA is preparing for launch in Dec ***** Yes, I can count. Can you ?
You really should not have used the Space Shuttle as an example of things in space going wrong even though the 'brightest minds' try to make them go right. The history of the Space Shuttle shows that congressional meddling (basically the need for a space pork program for politicians and competition between the airforce with its need to launch satellites and NASA for space money) led to the total redesign of what was meant to be small and light rapidly reusable and hopefully cheap to launch shuttle into a much larger vehicle that was supposed to do everything for everybody. With a total redesign and a stretched out program, needless to say, costs ballooned, but , ironically, congress decided to be cheap when it came to astronaut safety and never paid for any kind of abort system. Thus the space shuttle's fatality rate was 100 percent, and, in total, about 1 percent of its missions resulted in catastrophic explosions and deaths.
Don't gonna lie european can't build their invention in their own country e.g Shanghai maglev is designed by a german company but germany don't have it's own
Budget! Put it this way Germany + France would fit into Texas state! It's a lot cheaper and much more fun to have every body participate to your project! And often very convenient. For example the launch site for E.S.A. is in France because it's technically the best place (closest to the equator) on the European soil to launch a rocket. All projects are developed, built, managed, etc.. in the most convenient and appropriate places of Europe depending on competences, logistics, infrastructures etc...
Sadly for ESA, they aren’t capable of putting people into space. Therefore they lack the public support. Space is hard, expensive, and comes with great risk of failure. They have been surpassed by the very young Spacex company....... things kinds of things require focus and that’s impossible when so many different countries are involved...... spacex will have people on the moon or Mars before esa launches its first person into space.
yeah but why would we bother to be able to send people into space on our own ? we don't have our own space station, and when we send an astronaut in the ISS every once in a while it's cheaper to just pay the US.
Publicly owned, bureaucratic and oriented on fixed budgets. Means expensive, slow. This is not how the ESA will be a major player in the future of space flight.
???? Today ???? Canada is being touted as: partner with NASA. Similarly for Japan & SpaceX. As "partners", that is wishful thinking. China-Russia is finally being recognized as a different space organization. ?? Until SpaceX demonstrated ability of transport to & from the ISS, the us DEPENDED on the Russian Rockets ! -- Various other space programs, are in existence. -- More than 3 probes, have landed on Mars. -- More probes: are currently in route.
The author of this video has not done proper research and does not really comprehend what ESA is or does. He keeps showing the European Union flag that has nothing to do with ESA. Just to say that Blue Origin has accomplished more than ESA shows how uninformed this is.
Overall ESA is the second / third largest space agency in the world, but is more focussed on Earth and direct science while due to its multinational construct is stripped of political or military focus which is what NASA and Robocosmo is very much driven by aka was created for during the Cold War. Hence they hardly ever have any bravado missions. USA, Russia and now China also use their space agencies as a dick measuring contest or for direct military assets like their strategic nuclear weapons. I mean, much of the Chinese space station drive is that they do not want/need anyone else. ESA has none of these tasks nor is intermingled with military or geopolitical agendas. The Galileo platform is essentially the only one I could come up with.
Actually, ESA has a bigger budget than Roscosmos, making it the second space agency in the world. Also, unfortunately Roscosmos is mostly focused on Soyuz to the ISS, and a bit dying. IN the meantime, ESA has it's own GPS system (Galileo), went to comets (Rosetta), Mars surveillance (MARS TGO), soon to be Mars rover (2022 Rosalyn Franklin), astronautss, fully independant space access (Kourou Space Center in French Guiana), plenty of Earth observation satelites. One thing is that it is mainly ran by France (with the CNES as space agency) and Germany (with DLR), which means many military and political programs are out of the realm of the ESA and managed by member states
ESA does have a bigger budget than Roscosmos. But I believe they are behind both the US and China placing them in third place.
@@LogicallyAnswered keep in mind that the ESA budget is focused on science only. The military and political matters are dealt by the respective national space agencies. (CNES in France manages plenty of military sattelites but they are financed by France directly)
@@LogicallyAnswered not behind china
@@LogicallyAnswered behind according to what measuring stick mate. Of course if you all you think of space is astronauts maybe you are missing out.
What about JAXA?
You should have talked about ESA's Rosseta and BepiColombo missions. Anyway, great video.
Thanks man!
no it not a great video a bit more of research would have helped it alot
Or Planck that sees the cab or GAIA , OR ANY of the telescopes they have in space and on earth that have shown us things we wouldn't have seen without them? Idk ..
Ok vid but so much was missed .
I think the ESA being overlooked by the public is mostly due to it's multi-national nature, lower funding and a lack of interest in space in europe. Me as a european, I feel like we are lagging behind in the space field, and it a shame that we're doing nothing to catch up.
Well, we are lacking behind in everything. And as soon as someone starts building a factory, people start talking about endangered frogs and bees. Europe is rapidly becoming a technological backwater due to all the regulations, high taxes, pessimism, lazy workers, no entrepreneurial spirit etc.
I have to admit though your guy's probes are really cool
To be honest, at the moment everyone is falling behind. At the moment no one can keep up to spacex. Maybe there will be room to make a fully reusable launcher in a few years when spacex has answered all the initial questions about the new type of launcher.
However there is a lot of possibility outside the launch industry. Like mining and space stations. Esa should really try to get new private companies started in these fields.
@@macjonte What about rocket lab?
They are still behind them but they are competing. They already forced (I think it might be too strong word) to make Transporter mission for small sats, now they want to build medium class rocket (half power of Falcon 9 but still), also they have photon which is basically satellite template (it will deliver payloads to multiple orbits), and they have very fast production (they make electron in weeks or even days).
Also there is private company that wants to make space station called Axiom Space.
@@ImieNazwiskoOK
Yea rocket lab might have a chance in launch industry. Photon, the satellite template is really great.
All American companies. :(
ESA is more focused in environmental sattelites, than in exploring the space...in that way ESA is more in the practical side and less in the adventure side. And also it doesn t have such a big budget as NASA.
That’s true. As for the budget though, while ESA doesn’t get as much as NASA and Roscosmos, they do get much more than nearly everyone else like ISRO, SpaceX, and Blue Origin.
@Maryo_Nicle7 so, what countty is? Space is another game.
USA has plans for shit on mars, EU has plans for shit on the moon and then use the moon to make further travels.
The matter in this video is just poorly researched.
@@LogicallyAnswered Please get your facts straight before publishing a video. According to Wikipedia ESAs budged is ~2,5 times that of Roskosmos. And with that ESA has done way more missions to space than Russia during the last 20 years.
@@debott4538 typical space=rockets and putting humans in orbit
@@LogicallyAnswered esa's budget is three times higher than Roscosmos lol, you're showing some pretty serious gaps in knowledge on the topic you just made a video about here in the comments section...
didnt know the esa did so much, probably because of the usual "ignoring everything that is not usa" thingy
Hahaha
Their PR is absolutely atrocious but if you follow space sectors you can hear about some really cool probes they make
@@bee5440 they are in the business of science not PR
@@pinheirokde couldn't have said it better myself, although they do work a lot with KSP so all the KSP players know about them
@@bee5440 KSP for the win, Mun or bust...
You have forgotten one big and most important part where ESA stands out: Science projects. Many of ESAs achievements are in science and technology and very valuable. ESA has its own Deep Space Network and contributed many instruments to NASA missions. ESA never had its own manned space ships and that is why people think that ESA is behind, which can´t be further from the truth. Have you ever heard about Planck, Herschel, Exosat, Hipparcos, Beppicolombo, Gaia, Artemis, Lisa pathfinder, Cheops, Integral, XMM-Newton and so many more? ESA contributed to the Hubble Space Telescope and many of the famous Hubble Photos were taken by ESA instruments. ESA is also a partner on the James Webb Space Telescope.
Funfact:
In "America" returning to Moon service module of Orion is from ESA
orion is from lockheed martin and parts of it came from boeing.the service module came from ESA.....might make a correction on your comment bud.
@@suborbitalpada6609 the comment is technically correct just poorly worded. It's the USA's capsule but it uses an old service module from the ESA, like you said
@@bee5440 not an old unit, its a unit being used today for supplying ISS, ESA is using and changing the concept of that unit
@@suborbitalpada6609 yea he should correct his comment
@@suborbitalpada6609 Orion is built by Lockheed Martin. SLS core stage by Boeing, SRBs by Northrup Grumman. Do your research.
Just a pet peave of mine, as someone who has lived with ESA (family work there) all my life, no one calls it "The E.S.A", everyone just says ESA (pronounced like the name "Isa").
As a side note I had a metal toy Orion rocket growing up, awesome thing xD
Ah ok, thanks for the correction!
blue origin doing more than the ESA, you've got the whole squad laughing
Blue Origin cant even compete with rocket labs let alone ESA 🤣
Spacex-2024 MARS
Nasa- 2024 MOON
Blueorgin 2099- What happened again oh we were going to orbit
@@blmb4274 Spacex-2024 MARS wanna bet??? hover hyped over sold
Blue Origin ain't even reached orbit lmao
blue origin going stronK!
Is nobody going to say how ESA managed to land first on an asteroid ? Their failure to land on Mars is over emphasized
Failure which probably burns even more for ESA that it is due to a failure of equipment from their russian partner.
Europe landed a probe on a meteorite once, by launching it, swinging the probe arround the moon, then arround mars, then arround earth and then swung it towards a comet
It's called gravity assists
@swampy lamp NASA has done gravity assists
@swampy lamp Nasa literally has the Parker solar probe getting like 7 gravity assists from Venus. Juno did a gravity assist around earth in 2013. So yes Nasa has done gravity assists. And in fact has done more gravity assists than any one else.
@@zacharynyhusmoen he was talking about the comet landing, not the gravity assist... that was a first, not the orbital maneuvre =D
@@carlomariamizzi8387 and that probe landed upside down in a hole.
ESA Usually helps nasa with their project, but the U.S. takes all the credit and doesn't give esa the attention they need, so unusual that the Americans take all the credit.
True
ESA tends to be a junior partner in a lot of collaborations: ISS, James Webb, Spacelab, Cassini-Huygens, Artemis, etc.
To be fair, NASA is doing most of the job when it comes to space missions. But I guess ESA deserves credit for the satellites and other scientific equipment they ve built.
@@arnaud7197 Go watch some of the NASA videos about Artemis, and see how often ESA or the ESM gets mentioned...
(Spoiler: Hardly ever)
@@OneOfThoseTypes How would that be beneficial to anyone?
I think the only major feat of ESA that you tragically left out was the Giotto probe to Halley's Comet!
He forgot Rosetta
@@smintiger1251 I can talk about dozens more people dont know about.. even if ESA publish extensively about it..
A big chunk of the problem is that a lot of what we see online is PR repetition from US centric media, that obviously is US centric.
Can you make a Video about all the probes ESA is launching. I researched a lot about this and I think that the probes are the best we got out there. Especially the Stuff that goes beyond Moon and Mars is very intresting.
You want to do something around ESA’s Themis, Prometheus and Callisto projects; all aimed at mastering reusability, and ultimately helping figure out the Ariane Next.
Your title query, "What Happened to the European Space Agency?" raises a relevant question. From my perspective, government agencies are unfairly bound by political interference rather than long-term objectives and funding. Governments are driven by, in the free world, popular opinion with regards to elections. Yet, the elected leaders often mislead the public and follow their own objectives after they enter office.
I learned a lot about ESA when they became involved in the NASA Cassini-Huygens mission to Titan. They played a minor part in the Huygens probe. Still, it was interesting to study how much effort was placed into what appeared to be simple technology - on the surface. In actuality, it was a complicated compilation of Engineering.
ESA does not receive the credit they deserve for their contributions. For example, SpaceX is at the top of my list of innovations in Space Exploration. The reason being they are a private company and aren't nearly as shackled by government intervention. In fact, without their innovation, we would still depend upon Russia to hitch a ride to the ISS. ESA would fare well by involving themselves more with private organizations.
You provided great coverage, although a bit hurried. Howbeit, comprehensive and presented under the usual time constraints of short videos. Great job! Jeff
Thank you for your generous reply.
Minor part in the Huygens probe.... it was an ESA lander mate
They value good social services and other causes (like environment) more.
@Vitamin protein There are some recently founded german startups with bigger and more ambitious plans than ESA. They are even partly funded by ESA to develope launchers.
Similar to how NASA founds ULA, SpaceX and Blue Origin.
Other european countries have some startups too, Scotland for example.
I hope, those are sucessful, ESA is pretty boring currently. And like NASA restricted by government regulations and funding. They have to deliver a certain thing at a certain time without much room for innovation. Or any urge to compete with others.
@@MMadesen maybe also because Europe getting older and also ESA represents a group of countries vs NASA or China’s equivalent so nationalism push to spend more (to out do the others) is not there. Not saying that it’s good or bad though just possibly reasons.
Except that environmental causes are directly intertwined with space exploration. More satellites for monitoring changing climates and conditions helps track climate change and its effects.
Industry wise? Commercializing space is a great move for the environment, specifically because mining asteroids can be one of the actual best sources of materials that are currently mined on Earth, typically within lower economically development countries, mainly third world. Mining in space, manufacturing, and production in space can begin to shift industries to a better and more economical option for them, as well as providing incentive for stopping exploitation of lower economically developed countries, their land, and their people.
@swampy lamp Which kind of proves his point, doesn't it? :D Nobody cares about Europe's pityful imperial ambitions anymore :P
The different ESA headquarters exist because bigger states wants geographic return, they later specialised in different programs according to the project the nation of interest was opted in
It is a political decision. ESA is based on contribution of many countries and of their national space agencies. It's facilities are spread as much as possible and EVERY contributing country gets return in form of contracts to its industries, and grants to science and research groups in that country. ESA also tries to draw its staff from all member states, proportional to its contribution. Even a very small country with only a small national budget like Luxembourg can contribute and get access to space technology and eventually send a satellite or contribute parts to projects of ESA or space agencies of the other nations. Yes, it is complicated and takes longer, but in the end all sides benefit from it.
i want to work for space x but i live in the netherlands i realy hope that eventualy everyone can work there even if they not live in the us
Good luck!
You just need green card
Marry an American
@@pownder 90 Day Fiancé 😂😂
U can't imagine my condition as an Indian. I want to work in the American Aerospace industry, but its gonna take me 20 years to get citizenship.😔😔
Because comparable to its size, they still haven’t got anything remarkable to show the world. Whereas Indian space agency with literally a tenth of esa budget is far more advanced technically and working on it’s own crew mission.
I'm not sure if ESA is as irrelevant to the public eye as you may think. Some of my friends who have absolutely no interest in Space Exploration do know about ESA and what they do. At least they have heard of Arian rockets.
It's called Ariane rockets. Arian rockets is what you would expect if the Germans would develop them on their own.
Aside from Giotto and Rosetta, ESA were never “first” at doing space things and this may be the reason why they don’t get the attention that they deserve. Also, they don’t have an independent human flight launch program which is the real headline grabber. However, it is safe to say that they get plenty of recognition at home and future projects to the outer planets and the Gateway to the Moon will be quite amazing
I completely forgot that europe have its own space agency.
Well this video is like a fresh remi der
Anyway keep it up man.
Hahaha yeah man, I think most of have discounted the ESA quite a bit!
And Australia has a space agency called ARSE.
I'd say china is more devoloped than half of europe.
Working at CNES (French Space Agency). I would say that Europe is more focused on how to work/handle the space. Like law for the space junks, how to refurbish old satellites. How to optimized the food sent to the ISS and for future long space travel. What are the planet minerals etc.. Which put them in the background because it's not about sending rockets All over like NASA or other space agencies (It doesn't mean that NASA is doing wrong. We need them in order to go further in these domains)
That's why ESA is teaming with NASA by sending astronauts to the ISS. And That's why NASA is teaming up with ESA to create better food in the ISS, instruments like the ones on the ISS or on all mars rovers.
I think a major reaosn is simply that the EU has not centyralized and become a federated state. If the EU is actually turned into a European superstate, you'll ee more attention given to it (also a lot more funding and manned explorations).
Hey, so I criticized your video about a month ago, but just subbed because of your most recent Airbus and Boing vids that were great. I think you should come around and try to better tackle this subject again, on a longer video, because the ESA history and achievement are complex and many, that's one of the reason people don't hear as much about it than others.
ESA does not have attention grabbing missions.
- They have no manned launches, not even in development.
- They have no rovers like Curiosity or even Opportunity. Rosalind Franklin may change that, but that's in the future.
- They have a single successful lander - Huygens. It was over 20 years ago, and produced few, if any, images that captured the imagination. Schiaparelli failed. The mentioned Beagle 2 failed (and was also British, not ESA). So nothing flashy for the public.
- Most of their missions are either scientific (mapping gravity/climatology/magnetosphere/xray observatories, trace gasses trackers) that do not provide nice pictures for the media, or they are support (launch services, modules for ISS and cargo resupply) that do not carry nearly as much publicity.
- Most of their headline-grabbing "firsts" were decades ago. For example Mars Express, their first Mars orbiter, was launched in 2003. They are seen as doing more of the same, while China and India are having their "firsts" just now, with the prestige boost it carries.
This all means a lot of scientific papers, but few images to go viral. The most they can do lately is pretty rocket launches, but SpaceX and Rocket Lab made this a commodity of high supply.
They are a scientific heavyweight, but not in the public's mind. They have very advanced technology (e.g. rocket engines), but are not utilizing if effectively. Their funding is lower than NASA's or China's, and it is more politically vulnerable, as Europe is not as united as US or China. The whole political machinery is slow to make decisions, and does not always take the best ones. Space access that needs to be protected, but that's one of the few common goals among countries. France is reluctant to develop reusable rockets, because this would mean lost jobs, but Germany is reluctant to pay through the nose for expendable launchers when commercial ones are available for a fraction of the cost.
I dream of working for ESA.
this article is a mess...
frist ESA+EASA is the equivalent to NASA just a much smaller budget. for the european equivalent to Space X you need to look at Ariane Space. ESA contracts Ariane space to develop its rockets, similar to what NASA does with SpaceX, ULA, Boeing etc...
Moon NASA efforts include ESA as a major contributor,(will include an European astronaut), one of the parts done on budget and on time , is ESA part in the project.
In terms of science on the subject of earth observation esa is by far the leading world contender.
People are over hyped about SpaceX, but that is just rockets a mature technology we humans mastered a few decades ago, it's technologically a nothing compared to say the mars probes from NASA.
if you are interested i can place hundreds of great amazing stuff done by esa. People dont know about it??? sure but most people dont know much about anything, and budget of esa should be spent on science not hype...
ESA is not a massive power like Nasa or spaceX but it supports them in a way. They conduct experiments that can help every other company. They also help with a lot of Nasa's projects giving her with info and also creating hardware for her sometimes
Great video! But ESA is pronounced as a name like Lisa without the L
Huh, I always pronounced as the separate letters. I just think that it's a bit more clear what you are talking about if you say the letters separately because otherwise people could maybe more easily misunderstand it for something else
Note that ESA is a separate entity from the EU, a lot of EU flags in the video.
Yeah! It's probably why it's called EUROPEAN Space Agency... 83% European but every body is welcome! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Space_Agency
Yes you are definitively right.
The esa was born before the EU and this shows Europe doesn't need more bureaucracy to make great achievements.
Too more horrible blue flags. the EU is a trap for the people of Europe.
@@tricosteryl The EU is the only future Europe has if we don't want to disappear before the US and China. It is also a gatekeeper of liberty and democracy, much more than the US. And go follow a class of European Law and Treaties before saying the EU is not democratic
It is, but they work very closely together. I suspect it will eventually be incorportated as a community under the Treaty of Rome
@@arthemis1039
EC is a lobby of non elected persons, non controlled, that dictates poverty to the people of Europe.
I just cant imagine how educated people can believe that non elected leaders might be liberty or democracy champions... It is exactly the contrary!
And with 20 years of EC behind us, we just can see that since then things are getting worse and worse in many countries. and there is no sign of improvement in the coming 10 years. The only country that managed to resist is Germany. Because German leaders think Germany first. And they managed to grab all the positions of power within the EC.
EC peace ? and what about Libya, Syria, Yougoslavia, Ukraine ? This is peace ?
Do you think that the aggressive behaviour towards Russia is a will of peace ?
the ESA needs a loveable spokesperson
ESA has a lot of space telescopes, and with Kopernikus a really advanced earth observing program, but you are right manned space flight gets more attention
By the how good the UK is designing their own war toys i hope my country could make its own rover and rocket.
I work for a small company that does some research projects funded by ESA. Essentially like most of these large organisations its main function is to funnel government money into research and to support employment of highly trained engineers. However, unlike Russia, China, USA, or India despite what the EU may want you to think or advertise, there is no strong European identity.
Each member state within Europe thinks and defines themselves primarily by their home nation. A French person is French, a German person is German, a British person is British, Spanish person a Spaniard ect. If some cool research is done in a French research lab, no one outside France gives a crap, its wont even be reported on outside France. Thus, the collective achievements of ESA are much more diluted.
@Yuk Tsang did I say it was? My point was about identity. People in Europe don't define themselves by the EU. It's still a coalition of seperate nation states. Each nation state has it's own self interest. This is why of the global power blocs, the EU is the most Burocratic and least efficient.
ESA, and European countries in general, place themselves in the role of subjecting US dominance rather than serving their own interests. ESA provides systems that NASA subsequently takes credit for, for example, future trips to the moon, how many are aware of how big a role ESA plays in making this possible? In Europe, we have a challenge to put ourselves under systems from the United States, instead of making ourselves free and independent.
The ESA does not need to be huge, all they need to do is put satilites in orbit
@Yuk Tsang jesus christ man chill
@Yuk Tsang damn chill I ain't trying to hurt anyone by being wrong god
300th comment. Keep in mind Europe haves to pay for all that free food, vacations, housing, college and Healthcare most of it's citizens get. Then they pay for other things like space travel.
the ESA is actually good
ESA is not NASA, but it an honour to be part of ESA, it has his own astronaut corp, that works with NASA and the CSA and JAXA, if the people really knows how ESA is, they will be very proud of it as me
My collegue and i decided that a spaceship does not need a door in its design. the first place an astronauts WANT to get out is the earth anyway.
They also are working together with NASA for e.g. the Webb Telescope. And maybe not ESA, but one of the things that will be studied by that telescope are the 7 planets of the TRAPPIST-1 red dwarf star. That was discovered by the Belgian TRAPPIST telescopes. Maybe better to work together in the future then to focus who was best.
Blue Origin doing more than ESA 🤣🤣. You must be joking. ESA has launched rockets into orbit and further. Blue Origin is yet to get to orbit.
Well, the did a damn good job launching the Webb.
Long before the ESA was created, in 1964 Italy was the fith country to send a satellite in space, the San Marco 1, after the USSR, the USA , UK and Canada, using a Scout rocket purchased frome the USA. In 1967 Italy launched the San Marco 2 satellite from its own sea base off the shores of Kenia, which still exists today as a space control base. Unfortunatelly, after this good start, the italian space programs were not politically supported enough for a certain time. Now Italy gives its collaboration to ESA in all space fields, including light launchers with the VEGA project.
That's why I don't like living here in Europe. You can't really make a good career at ESA from what I've read and the only significant aerospace company is Airbus, nothing for astronautical things tho. We need a private space company here in Europe and that's what I'll try to accomplish in the future.
What about Virgin Galactic?
@@neeljavia2965 VG's headquarters are in New Mexico as far as I know, so it's just another US company. While VG has accomplished quite a few things, they are no where near SpaceX or something.
Well, I wish you good luck in eventually joining SpaceX!
Someone needs to make first steps here
@@starley_ True.
It’s ESA... not E.S.A. - just like NASA... not N.A.S.A. 😅🤗 could have done some more research about our space agency but overall good video! Keep at it!
they didn't get highlighted because their biggest achievements isn't completely done on their own, NASA and ESA jointly did it. and we all know how if NASA is involved we gonna hear the news " NASA did this and this" not "NASA and ESA did this and this"
You almost have 60k ayyyy
Yes sir, getting there!
@@LogicallyAnswered keep up the good work o7
me, seeing the title : "oh, cool, i want to see that"
me, after watching the video : _cries in french_
Talking about the esa without mentioning the role of France in the whole thing is... fascinating.
Long before the ESA existed, France under the leadership of Charles de Gaulle decided that we were not willing to become a second rank country and thus we must have a self sufficient space program, and what was said was done.
Eventually neighboring countries decided to join but if we didn't build 80-90% of the rocketry expertise on our own the ESA wouldn't have been formed in the first place. typically the brits dissolved their entire space program to buy launches on american rockets
for the rest, i think a large part of the answer to "why is ESA invisible" lies in usual american navel-gazing attitude, missing that time we landed a probe on a comet is a bit disappointing.
but to be honest, the ESA has issues. i think they are really bad at public communications, our politicians have little to no ambition of doing great things and having to convince multiple countries to do anything certainly doesn't help.
also the ESA is more of a space related research institute than a proper space agency like nasa. most of the money and effort is spend financing "noble science" and little on actually sending stuff in space, but overall they have their shit together and in terms of competance are only second to NASA.
China and India are not even close to ESA lol, xDDDDDDDDDDD
European Space Agency accomplishing way more than you think.
India, China, Russia is way below ESA.
How
Did they ever went to moon like Russia?Did they ever went on Mars like India or china? Do they have thier own gps system like India and China, they only succeed little with the help of NASA .
Could you please pronounce esa as one word like you do with nasa?
Hahaha, my bad
@@LogicallyAnswered you could have done some more research about the name of your main subject - it’s Like interviewing someone and getting their name wrong throughout the whole interview..... difficult to listen to! Better luck Next time!
To have more credit ESA should send is first crew in space with its own means!
It just hurts my ears how narrator says "ESA". It's actually the same as you would say NASA (imagine someone saying NASA as en-a-es-a)
I guess the "right" pronunciation is pretty close to the way you would say it in Esperanto since there is 20+ countries participating.
The difference is ESA is no where near as commercial in comparison with the likes of NASA, they also do not merch or promote themselves as the likes of NASA, therefor most of the global population regardless of them even living in Europe, will most likely be able to answer you what NASA is, but ask them ," hey did you see what ESA/ESTEC achieved?" They will probably respond with " eh who?".
People don’t know much about ESA because Europeans don’t constantly and obnoxiously toot their own horn, like certain other countries do.
since when do you say E-S-A instead of one word - Esa. i've never seen anyone say N-A-S-A instead of one word - Nasa
Roscosmos hasn't been relevant for decades. They're still just using technology from the Soviet era and hasn't many any noticeable advancements since. One thing that American launch companies have that I think is extremely important is just being able to launch right in front of the public eye. Launches like SpaceX has really whipped up the public's imagination and has really reignited the spirit for the space sector and the public approval is extremely important. After several Apollo missions, people just didn't care anymore and when the public interest is lost, funding goes with it.
The ESA might have a better launch location in French Guiana but it's far, they have to have their rockets and spare parts shipped which adds on to the cost and most importantly, it's not visible to most Europeans unless they fly there. SpaceX launches are extremely visible and living here in Southern California, whenever a Falcon 9 launches during Twilight it really puts on one hell of a show that can be seen across multiple states for hundreds and hundreds of miles and that generates interest which is very undervalued by the ESA.
SpaceX has to make Space sexy and they've done just that from the design of their ships to their flight suits to their ambitions. They know that if they want to achieve their goals, they have to be 2 steps ahead of the competition and always one step ahead of themselves. Once Starship becomes viable, they can't just rest on their laurels and wait for the "next SpaceX" to come along and eat their lunch. They know they'll have to eventually go beyond Starship's capabilities and start experimenting with nuclear engines (that are already being looked at by the US government) for true space travel without having to rely on planetary timings.
The ESA on the other hand isn't or wasn't interested in such things. They're a jobs creator interested in keeping European launch independence. They're the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" type. And that's exactly why a company like SpaceX was able to sneak in and eat their lunch. It's the same thing with Apple back in 2006 with the iPhone. They came in and introduced something the rest of the market scoffed at and the rest is history.
ESA isn't simply focussed on its own achievements. It exists to support European space interests and its industry. If a European company wanted to do do privately what ESA was doing (Telecom satellites, Earth Observation, Launchers, Navigation...) ESA would support the private industry to become successful in that area and would not compete with them.
Also a lot of what ESA does is recommending where combined European funding should be spent to improve the competitiveness of the industry.
In 2020 ESA launched only 10 rockets: 3 Ariane, 5 Soyuz et 2 Vega. The later of these being a failure!
The problem with ESA is that is not a national effort, so it doesn't have the natural boost that every national agency benefit. Coupled that with a low than average PR operation and in the end the only one that really know where ESA level is or what they are doing, are european nerds. The average european person is simply not interested enough due to intereuropean effort. There's a lack of pride or joy in European operation effort..
Even ISRO has not sent humans to space.
Yet they are famous because of the huge Indian diaspora around the world plus their cost effectiveness.
Yeah, it’s interesting how China and India’s space programs are much more popular than the ESA!
Though ESA ranks higher than ISRO.
@@adityashukla2635 Yes.
@@adityashukla2635Esa ranks above only in budgets but not in achievements
Did they ever went to moon like Russia?Did they ever went on Mars like India or china? Do they have thier own gps system like India and China, they only succeed little with the help of NASA .
ISRO can perform better than ESRO
ull knowledgebro stop comparing andone video dont have full knowledge
@@manansharma6348 what do you mean ? sorry I didnt quite catch your sentences.
Sorry EU citizens, here in the USA I’ve always heard or maybe assumed ESA was pronounced as E.S.A. (With Letters). Now we know, no slight is intended. In my opinion ESA either isn’t initiating flashy projects or when it does a flashy project (ie Mars) it hasn’t been the first. Anyway, right now SpaceX owns all eyeballs, even those that once adored NASA for reasons that seem obvious.
ESA is majorly leaded by ASI (Italian Space Agency), Rosetta mission, Galileo, MARS TGO, Marsis probe, the discovery of wather on Mars, SkyMed satellite, Vega Rockets, ExoMars Schiapparelli landing trial....all stuff did by Italians.
France and Germany just gived their laboratories and landing pad in French Guiana.
Actually ASI have a strict collaboration with NASA (since the Voyager mission) for Exomars mission as for Artemis moon mission, where the Italians of the ASI will not only build the Lunar habitative modules but also a comunication system based on nanosatellites between Earth and moon, using the Italian nanosatellites Argomoon.
What people lack is informations, expecialky upon the Italian space history (the greatest after USA and Russia one), every NASA mission have something shared with Italians in it, for example the internal part of the Space Shuttle was built by ASI, the ISS dome where the Earth shine also was made by Italians (as a lot of ISS modules and even the Voyager itself have Italian made stuff in it. The Italians was the first to land a probe upon an asteroid (Rosetta mission) to discovery wather on Mars....and on and on.
Eh, ive always though CNES and France made a step back by joining the ESA. If we followed De Gaulle's vision we'd have had our own manned missions and launchers..
It’s all about marketing. ESA’s marketing is poor or even non existent. ESTEC is located in the Netherlands and I hardly ever spend a thought on it, while I don’t miss a thing about SpaceX. The tragedy of ESA is not only that many countries are involved. Everything spectacular (rocket launches) happened in Guyana, at the other side of the world. On top of that it was never made clear what effects space technology has on our daily lives. In the sixties it was a race between USA and the USSR - the superpowers. Now China and India are joining the race, as contenders, challenging the degrading superpowers. The tragedy of Europe is that everybody outside of Europe sees their inhabitants as Europeans, except the Europeans themselves.
india's being a single country whose space agency ISRO is catching up to ESA.
I didn't even know about esa up until this video
Pretty much everybody forgot about them
Hahaha, unfortunate but true
We'll see what will happen this year, because the esa was granted a rather deserved budget of 1/3rd the NASA's.
This is more than the double of what they had in the past, let's see what will come out of this !
Why does ESA / Arianespace not have a crewed capsule on their rocket? What are they waiting for?
Not useful
"The ESA successfully landed Beagle 2 on Mars." (7:24) Say what? ESA declared the mission lost in February 2004, after numerous attempts to contact the spacecraft were made. It was a total failure.
Ah you’re right! The ESA history page cleverly only states that Beagle 2 was successfully launched. It doesn’t mention anything about the landing haha.
@@LogicallyAnswered They actually found Beagle 2 using the MRO back in 2015, and were able to combine multiple images to create a higher resolution one in 2016 showing the state of the lander, and it turns out it *did* successfully land, but it failed to deploy its antenna -- the final petal to deploy got stuck, blocking deployment of the antenna. Consequently what likely happened is that the lander happily ran in a low-power mode from its deployed solar panels, until it finally, inevitably died with its memory full of data that would never be retrieved.
Also, technically Beagle 2 was only carried by an ESA spacecraft, but the lander itself was run by the badly-underfunded UK Space Agency, which is not part of the ESA.
The problem with ESA they launch from french Guiana, you really need to launch from your own soil to get people motivated, not some colonial territory that has its politics manipulated to stay part of France.
ESA is so much more advanced, than any private space company. They come nowhere close.
It’s a shame your visuals don’t match the narrative. Also important historical elements are missing such as the way the ELDO launcher was to be built and the fact that both France and UK both ran independent missile and launcher programmes.
One day you'll be talking about me like Elon etc
Believe it
Hahaha, that would be insane!
You planning on being an egotistical jackasd who chases his employees around with a mini flamethrower for shits and giggles?
*jackass, rather.
Can you do a video about the CSA?
You completely ignored JAXA
India launching Humans by 2022 and developing indian falcon9 and starship same goes for china.
Those are 4 of the list.
There are several more.
NASA 2022 ?
Could be a ghost "town" !
Dec 2024 !
NASA is unlikely to exist.
???? Sept 2024 ???
-- 15 Space Agencies,
have colonies on the Moon ?
-- 7 Space Agencies,
have colonies on Mars ?
-- NASA is preparing for launch in Dec
*****
Yes, I can count.
Can you ?
You really should not have used the Space Shuttle as an example of things in space going wrong even though the 'brightest minds' try to make them go right. The history of the Space Shuttle shows that congressional meddling (basically the need for a space pork program for politicians and competition between the airforce with its need to launch satellites and NASA for space money) led to the total redesign of what was meant to be small and light rapidly reusable and hopefully cheap to launch shuttle into a much larger vehicle that was supposed to do everything for everybody. With a total redesign and a stretched out program, needless to say, costs ballooned, but , ironically, congress decided to be cheap when it came to astronaut safety and never paid for any kind of abort system. Thus the space shuttle's fatality rate was 100 percent, and, in total, about 1 percent of its missions resulted in catastrophic explosions and deaths.
Don't gonna lie european can't build their invention in their own country
e.g Shanghai maglev is designed by a german company but germany don't have it's own
Ironic but kinda true
@@wodsan04 ?
Budget! Put it this way Germany + France would fit into Texas state! It's a lot cheaper and much more fun to have every body participate to your project! And often very convenient. For example the launch site for E.S.A. is in France because it's technically the best place (closest to the equator) on the European soil to launch a rocket. All projects are developed, built, managed, etc.. in the most convenient and appropriate places of Europe depending on competences, logistics, infrastructures etc...
Sadly for ESA, they aren’t capable of putting people into space. Therefore they lack the public support. Space is hard, expensive, and comes with great risk of failure. They have been surpassed by the very young Spacex company....... things kinds of things require focus and that’s impossible when so many different countries are involved...... spacex will have people on the moon or Mars before esa launches its first person into space.
yeah but why would we bother to be able to send people into space on our own ? we don't have our own space station, and when we send an astronaut in the ISS every once in a while it's cheaper to just pay the US.
To be honest, Europe also puts money into NASA and some Europeans work for nasa aswell.
Never put Europe in the corner. :-)
You forgot to mention the European service module which will bring the Orion spacecraft to the moon.
What happened? All their spacecraft left. They have brexited the atmosphere.
Are you Chinese? ♥_♥ cause your accent it makes me wonder :D ty for the info too
Publicly owned, bureaucratic and oriented on fixed budgets. Means expensive, slow. This is not how the ESA will be a major player in the future of space flight.
Jesus! Is that really a bloody text to speech robot doing the voiceover!? Seriously!?
5:38 oh hi raiz space
(the youtuber for ksp, makes cool videos with experimenting with rockets, check him out)
Blue Origin has not sent 1 red cent's worth of payload into space. You should be blushing now.
Bureaucracy is what is killing the ESA.
no it's total lack of ambition
James Webb telescope will be launched by Ariane
In the eyes of the public ?
Advertising !
In the us:
they only boadcast NASA space.
Other areas,
are very knowledgable of the ESA.
???? Today ????
Canada is being touted as:
partner with NASA.
Similarly for Japan & SpaceX.
As "partners", that is wishful thinking.
China-Russia is finally being recognized as a different space organization.
?? Until SpaceX demonstrated ability
of transport to & from the ISS,
the us DEPENDED on the Russian Rockets !
-- Various other space programs,
are in existence.
-- More than 3 probes,
have landed on Mars.
-- More probes: are currently in route.
The author of this video has not done proper research and does not really comprehend what ESA is or does. He keeps showing the European Union flag that has nothing to do with ESA. Just to say that Blue Origin has accomplished more than ESA shows how uninformed this is.
He did not even bothered to research for the correct ESA logo.
Overall ESA is the second / third largest space agency in the world, but is more focussed on Earth and direct science while due to its multinational construct is stripped of political or military focus which is what NASA and Robocosmo is very much driven by aka was created for during the Cold War. Hence they hardly ever have any bravado missions.
USA, Russia and now China also use their space agencies as a dick measuring contest or for direct military assets like their strategic nuclear weapons. I mean, much of the Chinese space station drive is that they do not want/need anyone else. ESA has none of these tasks nor is intermingled with military or geopolitical agendas. The Galileo platform is essentially the only one I could come up with.
bUReAUcRacY
What about Australia? No one talks about them
Australia doesn't exist
Oh wow, they just made a space agency a few years ago. I didn’t even know haha.
no one talks about anything outsite of the us, thats the problem