Best Sounding GBBR Ever: Umarex VFC HK417 GBBR - RedWolf Airsoft RWTV
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Yes, it sounds amazing. This is something VFC have done right as well as many other aspects. The kick is brutal, carrying it around will make you feel like you’re working out and did we already mention the kick? Reading about it is one thing, watch the episode to witness its true power!
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Finally someone who states the manufacturer. Every other damn channel refuses to mention who makes the gun. Its always "The new blah blah blah form ELITE FORCE or balh blah blah from Umarex". Some of these channels really need to learn the difference between a manufacturer and a licensing company.
Of course! We really don't support rebranding at all. It stumps innovation.
+1 man it really ticks me off when they say its from elite force. Its like a majority of the air soft companies have a bias for elite force. I'm glad to see that RWA is still sticking true to the OEM.
H&K master race I think it's more of a marketing trick.Nobody cares about VFC but Umarex who has H&K license is much more apreciated.
H&K master race #Heckler&Kock #Deutschland
#Ethan Rx #Bla Blupp Do you maks airsoft i am just asking cuz we all ways see new items for airsoft @Bla Blupp @AirsoftGhillie
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
For people who keep hating on him for being an airsofter and assume he has never fired a real gun ( which he even said he has). You need to remember that ownership of firearms in china ( which were Redwolf is based ) by the citizens is illegal. So when people try to act tough and say shit like " Quit playing with toys and get a real gun ", they cant. Tbh, I've never fired a real gun in my life.
Tall Leprechaun I’m in the navy and I’ve fired, 9mm, 556, 50. Cal, 5 Inch, 308., 20mm and I have way more fun when I play airsoft, owning and shooting real guns is to much work...takes more time and effort, and money !!! Airsoft is awesome.
they aint in china though
For one he is not in China. Second you can own guns in China. I don't know where you get your facts. 1 in 5 people own a gun in China as of 2019. Only thing is you need to have an approved storage space at a shooting range to store it. Not allowed to house store it, or transport a gun without giving local law heads up.
@@BuildBreakFix so in China you buy the “usage rights” for a single firearm at a range?
@@BuildBreakFix your not really owning it
i personally own this airsoft gun and its AMAZING. im having lots of fun with it, i do believe these 417 20round gbb mags hold more gas and dosent cool down that fast like the we m4 mags. i ve shot really quick semi shots at a target and havent felt it cooling down AT ALL until it was out of gas. really really nice gun, i d give it a 5/5 for the excellent mag that performs like no mag i ve seen, and because it slides into the 417 very very nicely. the cosmetics of this gun is outstanding, and just like in the video.. it sounds, hits your shoulders amazingly. thumbs up to VFC for making a better gbbr
Glad you agree! The sound is simply amazing and the gun feels so solid. It reminds us of the old KSC TMP which had the same wow effect on players from the 90's. Seriously this gun's bolt sounds like music.
Using a car analogy, people buy Aston Martins and Maserati's because the exhaust sounds so good. They may not be the sharpest cars on the track but they sound amazing and look sexy. The same can be said about this Umarex VFC HK417. Not the most accurate or high performing Airsoft GBBR on the market. It has it's shortcomings in terms of performance and is a bit off the pace compared to some other GBBRs. But you don't buy this for the shooting accuracy and performance. You buy this for the beauty and the amazing sound it makes.
+RedWolf Airsoft I'm worried about buying one of vfcs gbbrs I've heard bad reviews on them online butt I want to get a HK416 teen but I've heard that it jams in the springs are really bad and I just want a full honest opinion from someone should i or should I not get it
nick Lee pls Dont laugh but can we use without the gas?
the gun wont shoot without airsoft gas in the magazine. without gas, you will hear the hammer click and nothing coming out of the barrel itself.
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel ruclips.net/user/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
Turn the music off ffs
the music is glorious and adds to the feel :)
not really.
grow a beard
Attalus I tf?
At least is not loud enough to make us not here the sound
RedWolf Airsoft for future, please please please put the background music on a low or off. It's difficult to hear what the person is saying. Thanks.
Agreed ahah. It was like level with his voice.
Someone needs to make a GBBR G3 and FAL.
I "own" a real G3 :p buy airsoft parts => PSG1 :p
Three years have passed and WE is actually making the GBB G3 happen
halosunday ghk*
halosunday WE though, sad times indeed.
This aged well
Great work on this review, Tim! Good to talk to you at FG3.
Cheers,
Robo
Cheers Robo! Maybe I'll see you in New Mexico in April. - Tim
RedWolf Airsoft 1) WHY SO EXSPENSIVE (me want)
2) i have seen accuracy tests and it aint so good. and people have a hard time finding parts to make it better than its aeg version
3) why would i pay more for a gun when i can get a cheaper more accurate version.
anyway i still want this but still kind of strange that the aeg version is better than the gas version
3:50 from the way his body shook it's almost like he's shooting a real 5.56 rifle..
asian.......
Yes the recoil is VERY strong. Big magazine = big gas reservoir = more gas can be used per shot to propel the bolt back = greater recoil. This really is the perfect gun to make a GBBR out of because of the massive magazine.
except for the fact its a 7.62 gun....
Pkarchpray16 If we're going to play being pedantic and purposely not "getting it", then no, It's not a 7.62 gun, it's an airsoft replica shooting 6mm bb.
aaron4820 But its a replica of a 7.62mm rifle
To be honest with you, When I was in the army , not US, I used to have the M4 or AR15. The handle you pull to draw the bolt is actually flimsly. So I guess it is more realistic this way.
It's funny because the only people that I see hate on airsoft are: Paintballers and people that say "Why get this when I can get the same thing for cheaper" but in all reality a lot of real steel shooters respect airsofters.
+AirsoftGhillie As a paintballer, can you tell me what's the big deal about airsoft?
+Kael I can tell you. The BB's don't hurt and they can get away with cheating much easier in war games. That is the only real appeal to airsoft.
the 1:1 scale of the guns, i know you can get mag fed markers (i am a paintballer, this is my old account) like the milsig rap4 tippmann, etc but they arent as realistic, for example the magazine. people play airsoft for realism and i will never understand speedsoft, if you are playing fast paced airsoft, you might as well play speedball
The real appeal to airsoft is that it is better than paintball. Jet del castillo, a former navy corpsman, said QUOTE:"I started off as a paintball player. I hated the mess and the insane costs of ammo. When I found airsoft, I immediately sold all of my paintball gear and bought a airsoft gun". $20 for 5000 extremely high quality airsoft pellets, $20 for 2000 paintball pellets. Most people in airsoft are respectable people who do not cheat. Airsoft guns are also more accurate, they can shoot farther, and they can look extremely realistic, unlike the unicorn laser beam cannons you guys use.
+Jack Wang you dont play paintball for the realism unless you play milsim
I just love how it goes KA-THUNK when you fire it! Now THAT'S how an airsoft gun should sound! :D
That is neat that the bcg simulates recoil on an airsoft rifle. I must point out to this guy however, at 5:14, the charging handle being "flimsy" is actually anatomically correct of that platform. When you lock the bcg to the rear, it takes all resistance off of the charging handle thus making it loose. The charging handle is held in only by two bumps on each side that allow it to essentially float in the charging channel. As the buffer spring extends, the force is what makes the charging handle become solid feeling.
tim your humor is why im subscribed
I am very impressed with this! I'm not much of a VFC fanatic myself but just looking how it operates was pretty cool!
A very very good GBB Airsoft Rifle indeed, i cannot say something else. I am proud owner of both, a VFC/Umarex HK 416 and 417. Both are very well manufactured and precise. Handling, feeling, recoil and sound are so amazing and it's a lot of fun using the rifles in the field. I spoke to Umarex (GER) because the 416's bolt broke twice allready, but they replaced and repaired it graciously. It seemes, the bolt unit needs a lot of Teflon/Gun-oil to run properly. The big pressure out of the magazines and the difference between the outer and inner temperature cause a lot of work for the entire bolt unit. If you ´can manage to replace the bolt and inner parts of the bolt unit from time to time, that might be the only thing you should maintain carefully and usual and you'll be so proud on and so happy with this gun !
My friend owns one of these... The kick broke his £150 ACOG.
Well then his ACOG is not much of a quality.
Oddy _ ACOG's don't cost £150. They cost much much more than that I'm afraid.
airsoft acogs do
Real ACOGs cost $1200
well, if it cost £150 it should break if you look at it!
I'm obsessed with this gun.... I needs it o_O. My precious
I already own a HK417 of UMAREX but still watched.
but still learnt from your advice like how to hold to mag-change. and agreed of the problem of the charging handle. Just that mine having problem on full-auto shooting...
Excellent single shot for a marksman position like me, though.
Thank you for sharing.
I subscribed right after watching it. :)
finally someone who doesnt exclusively use the (should have been dead) imperial system. thanks for making sure that everyone knows what you are talking about instead of america exclusively
Umarex should make a scar h version of this!
What this huy said ^^
"you need a lot of upper body strength"
*laughs in M14 EBR*
Pretty similar kick and sound to a .22, might even have a little more kick per shot.
RedWolf Airsoft Finally he did it! I opened my subscriptions today and i had a feeling this would be up! It's amazing! I haven't even watched it yet! Good or bad f*** the haters that said he wasn't interested!
Awesome review! Just that sound is sick! Of course you wouldn't expect it to be perfect since it's relatively cheap for what you get but like you said it's easy to upgrade it to make it better. But the money shot is at 3:07 :)
St0RM33 The video doesn't do the sound justice. Hearing it live...the metallic clank is so amazing. We love the shooting experience of this gun. We'd shoot this with an empty magazine and holding down the bolt lock just for the experience! And in fact, lots of people in the office have been doing this with the gun I filmed with.
RedWolf Airsoft Yeah i got (like many more) hooked from the preview video. Not sure how reliable it will be this way, but i guess the carrier bolt is at least full steel, right?
I get that gbb have smaller capacity mags but that's huge for me on getting the gun or not, 20 rounds is nothing lol there are plenty of gbb that go up to 40 rounds which is still low but a lot better than 20 rounds
Now I see the difference between the HK417 and the HK416 the mag of the 417 is big and the 416 is medium
Yeah the magazine and the hop is the reason why I didn't buy this gun and went for the 416 VFC
To the kids hating on airsoft.
No, it is not the real deal, nor is it cheap. But real veterans use airsoft to train.
You know why? Because it is heck a real and it is the closes you will get to the real deal without killing yourself. And it is not about having the greatest and best either, but actually having the feeling of playing together, teamwork, and the social is the stuff that makes airsoft a great sport?
So why should you come here and say that airsoft is not cool or just fucked up because it is not the real deal? Well if you think so, than you've missunderstood. And if I myself haven't missunderstood, than you are probably staying at your home as a keyboard warrior and finding something you can hate on because you don't have the mental abillity to think straight.
To be fair the reviewer has in no way had military training as I'm sure he would admit, when the thought of carrying rifle that weighs less than my mates lower leg when it decided to fly in a different direction to his body, when we patrolled across a legacy mine field in Kajaki, Helmand province. He's always trying to get himself 50% off whenever we go out shopping for garms, kit, or boots. 🤣 I'm sure with correct trigger drill and breathing, he would get that grouping right down. And he was firing a metal toy gun about 50/60 yds, open sight, so give him some slack. Great review, loved to hear a gbbr with a kick ass bolt assembly sound. I was thinking of getting one as I use gbbrs for simulation training in the UK (cheaper and no jumping through loads of reasons for owning a firearm like that on the FAC). Is the charging handle really weak ie, is it snap able due to poor build quality? Would it be possible to put the charging have from the PTS radian on it? Any ideas guys who own it as I appreciate this video is ancient.
Just received this gun, but dam I was so disappointed that it was faulty. Does not load the BB into the chamber, only knocks it out of the mag just enough to get into the crevice between the mag and gun so when I try to release the mag it is annoyingly difficult because I have to use a hammer to press on the release so I can retrieve the mag. This along with a gas leakage after I finished my first mag. When I first had this problem I had it fully filled so when the gas leakage happened out of nowhere there was what I would describe as nitric oxide shooting out of everywhere from inside the gun. I checked the bod for deliverer damages but the box was in great shape. Not sure what the main causes of these are, but i am definitely going to contact support to see what they can do for me here.
3:45 wtf, this sounds like a real gun :D
Great rifle unfortunately 20rd Mags that are £50 each is a real killer for this gun, either the mags need to get cheaper or mag sizes need to increase for this to be a considerable skirmish weapon even in extreme mil-sim events. (Btw I get that they probably wanted to keep it realistic with the real steel 20rd mag and give you more gas possiblity but I'd prefer 30-40rd long custom mag than a 20rd mag you have to refill about 3 times in mid-battle because it has enough gas just not enough ammo. Hopefully in future they'll make this but if not I'll have to stick with an AEG and possibly buy this later on for aesthetic reasons although to be able to use this in the field would be great.
Since you've reviewed so many airsoft guns plus I believe you have experience with most of them, could you please make a list of TOP 5 guns having best sound, accuracy, fps no matter in what conditions you shoot? So as a whole package of attributes that a gun might have, what are your 5 all time best airsoft guns? Exclude the handguns and sniper rifles ..Thanks
i made one that used propane which in the chamber is a small just right amount ignited causing a explosive reaction which is very loud and melts airsoft pellets unless heavy and dense but has range to 60 yards it will go through 4 layers of cardboard.
Haha, nice video dude. I like you - you're not someone focuses on purely advertising their company and in doing so not stating the actual manufacturer and you also don't waste time talking about things that aren't important and don't waste time waffling :) Subcribed.
Immortal man, listen to the accent my father actually comes from.
To quote star wars; "Look at the size of that thing!"
there's a huge sound filter !!!!! lol sound like the real steel
i love tims cheezy jokes
Im a bit late. But why dont you just lock the bolt back and adjust the hopup from the ejection port or magwell?
Best review I've seen in a while! Totally professional and informative! Damn! Also that rifle is sweet!
i dont see why people have a problem with weight, mine is 3,3kg and i honnestly love the weight. since i dont play milsim. it "feels" better and its more fun to have to throw the weight around and i personally dont see any downsides. on the other hand my back up weapon is way lighter and it just feels odd and cheap also running around with it feels really odd
Protect you from recoil 😂😂😂 oh you delicate airsoft flower
So that grouping wasent the guns fault if you looked at his shots they were in a perfect circle witch means he was staring at his target while shooting. Its pretty common when people shoot real guns.
20 rounds per mag? That mag is huge and could easily hold more. I wouldn't want to keep changing mags and running out. At that rate I would get the 416.
Maybe you could change the spring in the mag or something. I think it could be easily uprgaded
A RUclipsr BadaBingPictures has a video on a mod to make it 30 rounds
The real life mag only holds 20 though, I think thats why.
obviously, but this is airsoft
Strangely enough, RWA's website lists it as having a magazine capacity of 35.
OmG!!! I love the sound of the gun firing! I wish the sound was more metallic so it sounds like ( cling cling cling cling )
*shooting an airsoft gun* "I can kiss my wisdom teeth goodbye."
Holy crap it pisses me off when they say it has lots of recoil. Tim is the most guilty at doing this. I wish Tim only got to review springers so he can’t tell people their is a ton of recoil
So after watching your video with the 416 I bought one last week and now I noticed this video with the 417 and ahit what did no one told me about existence of this gun ha 😆 I guess I'm buying myself another one.
8lbs is light, carry an M14 around Afghanistan's mountains for 10 months. Or when I was your age carry a M24 around Saudi Arabia in 130degree weather with no shade and no A/C for the 16 months I was there.
+Phu Vet What was happening in Saudia Arabia? Was it for the Gulf War (don't get mad if I'm being dumb here lol)
+Rafay Syed yep, in 1992, I was sent to help train Royal Saudi Military Police on Riot control and non-Lethal Weapons. (we taught how to use Tasers, tear gas sprayer (Backpack size) and the vehicle launched CS systems. They didnt have nonlethal at the time, they just shot people I guess.
Phu Vet oh that's really cool actually
not when your 18 and just graduated high school.
+Phu Vet true.
Please tell me that HK417 is an assault rifle or sniper rifle or battle rifle.
The sound is indeed amazing
Only 20 rounds?
3:44 = eargasm
I clicked on the video because it was the "best sounding gbbr ever" and my we tech svd begs to differ.
strong recoil... and how about the WE k74!? i have one and it is the strongest recoil i ever see!
Im watching this in 2022, im missing the hype of watching airsoft channel since airsoft is illegal in my country
in which country do you live?
Sounds awesome. But a WE M14... That sounds better to me. Just my opinion.
It really works well.
Ever thought about doing a chrono test for joule? 'Cause you know, not all countries/nations are joule limit-free.
you can convert the velocity (fps) into energy (joules) since the mass of the BB is stated (0.2g). At ~360fps with 0.2g BBs, that would mean about 1.2J of kinetic energy
a piece of beauty hardware
Why aren't these guns available in US Shops while AEG VFC/Umarex guns are?
Why is he so fascinated with "clink" noises, minute recoil, and "straining his shoulder" is this a parody?
it's makes the gun just that much more interesting. it also adds a tad bit of realism when compared to zero recoil electric guns. plus, I think milsimers like this sort of thing.
The day he picks up a real gun...
This gun sounds so cool
Sounds like a monster
My favorite weapon
The sight height is higher on HKs correct? Have been looking for a GBBR for practice when I dont feel like driving 2 hours to my 'nearby' outdoor range. This looks like it would fit the bill but I dont want to get accustomed to a different cheek weld.
For the first time,Tim forgot to told everyone which kind of pellets he used to chrono!
+AL capone Yeah that bothered me a bit because the FPS doesnt say much if we dont know how heavy the BBs are ...
which BB bullet would be best for this AR
How old was tim when got his first airsoft gun and was it EBB, GBB, or spring loaded. I am 11 and want to start buying some airsoft guns! Can you please help! :D
It was 8 years ago when he was 26-8=18?, I started playing when I'm 12. Now I'm 14
For the price, I'd want it to have stellar performance out of the box.
Finally a REAL Hechlar and Koch licensed rifle. But my only request for you guys at red wolf, (just a pet peeve of mine it isn't very important, you guys are awesome anyway) Can you please stop holding weapons by the magazine or the mag-well? You judge weapons by the accuracy, yet ANY weapon, airsoft, paintball, or real, are incredibly inaccurate when held by the mag/mag-well. The last weapon I think was made to use the magazine as a hand grip was the S.T.E.N gun from WWII. Like I said I am not bitching at you, it just is a bit odd in my mind to judge a weapon by the accuracy without a proper grip.
Uhhh I don't think he was holding the magwell during the accuracy test. He was only holding the bolt stop firing blanks when he mentioned looking down the sights. That kinda requires you to hold the magwell
lagstyre
This is gunna be a long comment xD... I know he wasn't, I just mean in general, I have seen many RedWolf videos of firing tests for guns that have a grip that is away from the magazine, the Uzi for example. The grip is there for a reason, both in real life and in airsoft. In both airsoft and in real life, the grip is there to maintain accuracy. In real life, holding a gun by the magazine can actually pull the magazine out during operation, a shell could be left within the chamber and fire without the magazine in place, older weapons such as the MP40 could explode in the user's hand and both destroy the gun, and kill the user when this happens. Other times (this is more common) the weapon could fire that last shell and the blow-back mechanism would fail to send the bolt back and instead push the hot gasses out of the mag-well, both burning the user and destroying the bolt. Rendering the gun completely useless and dangerous to fire again, if the bolt doesn't break when this happens, it will crack and then explode during the next use. This actually can happen from a lot of use as well. I had a .38 special S&W snub nose, I fired it once and a piece of the cylinder went inches from my hand, the gun jammed and required a new cylinder. This was only a .38. If I where using a .223 or 5.56 like the gun in this video, it would have gone ballistic and I most likely wouldn't have my right arm. If you own any magazine fed firearms, BE CAREFUL PLEASE!
Toast Busters
Comparing a gas-piston AR based rifle, with an UZI, or MP40, has to be next to the most stupid thing i've seen today.
You cant compare two SMG's with an assualt rifle, yet alone gas-piston rifles with open bolt SMG's.
And casings exploding arent that dangerous, they wont rip off your arm or hands.
I've seen pictures of soldiers who got hit with shrapnel from exploded .50 BMG cases, and all they got were minor cuts and bruises.
And about the mag-grip.
It's a common grip for CQC, or close quarter combat, and all soldiers using AR based rifles are taught that grip.
And even if you have a case exploding in the AR based rifles, typically the magazine will just pop out of the gun.
The AR based rifles have forged aluminium recievers, which can soak up a lot of force, so i wouldnt worry about a case exploding inside if the gun.
But secondly about the mag-well grip:
Even if it's unsafe irl, this is freaking airsoft!
I have yet to see a 6mm BB blow up with the force to rip someones wrist in half, or sever an arm!
*****
I'm not saying that it's dangerous with airsoft guns, I'm saying it's dangerous with real guns. With an airsoft gun it will only effect the accuracy, also it looks bad. xD
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Also the M4 and newer M4 style rifles have forged aluminum receivers. The AR-15 has a steel receiver when you buy one stock. but you can buy an aluminum receiver kit for around $150 but you don't exactly need one unless you use it a lot or have a conversion kit that makes the weapon fire above a 5.56 N.A.T.O or .223 but other than that it is pretty useless. Also before you comment with a snide remark like that, you should read the comment twice to make sure that they are saying what you think they are saying. Just a thought. I have had an interest in firearm history ever since I was 3. If you are trying to anger or annoy me, you are failing.
Thank you! This is my favorite gun!
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Holy .... best airsoft gun EVER!!!
Take my money™
Best sounding gbbr ever this thing broke my eardrums
100% buying one
The link doesn’t work can anyone send me a link!?
why does a mag that big only hold 20 bb's?
+karl pond Because it's a GBBR (Gas Blow Back Rifle), most of that mag space is for the gas compartment, typically you can still get 2-3 mags out of a gas fill, but there's no guarantee, as a LOT of the gas is used just to "Blow Back" the bold to chamber another round.
We, at RedWolf, would like to apologise for the editing at the end.
On a lighter note, what else would be a 'drop' moment when involving the VFC HK417? Come up with some funny ones and Tim will post them on his Facebook page!
that sound.... even better than the M14......
Which one has more recoil this one or the WE AK PMC??? I mean the AK has a full travel bolt but compared to this one is it higher???
I'm getting back into airsoft after a long 3 year hiatus! What is the best gas blowback rifle for the 2019 platform!
Nick Paolino that depends. Like this one right here is about how realistic the rifle is. But if you need a lighter and more accurate one I’d say TM’s m4 is still the best platform.
Where are all the JG new models?
i have the electric version, is it possible to get gas internals for it? it would be nice if VFC used same gun shell
Or just pull the bolt back and adjust it from the dust cover?
hi, 1st off new to airsoft and live the vids... i wanted to ask have you got a review of the hk417a2...(wanted a 416a5 but dont want to fix problems i read most have) looking to start airsoft with a dmr and i like the idea of this kick, but read theres accuracy problens with this 1st gen... plus is there any co2 versions or upgrades(ireland always cold)... noob questions sry 🤪
how bout you cut the music off so I can hear everything
Well talking about the charging handle, it's like that on the real gun as well even the flimsyness you are adressing why? i dunno HK is kinda weird sometimes so be carefull with that.
I think this is funny because im now into live firearms but i still think these are cool
Gbb with the hardest kick video please!
GODDAMN that thing looks sweet
when will you have these back in stock
If you ever shot a real rifle, you would _not_ mind the recoil on this. Good point on the reload tho, even with a real .308 AR, they are pretty heavy. Very cool looking, and it sounds like a suppressed .22. So that's cool.
There is only an Asia edition, is there any way to get this for United States?
I want that sound for my MWS! Any thoughts how to do it?
I like this guys accent. Where's he from?
my friends would be scared shitless if I pulled this out on them