seems the slanted back pocket allows access without opening or loosing the top. The slant adds room, most companies may just end the pocket lower and make them both below the top
Mine arrived today. Great product. Tested it around the house. The shoulder straps fit my Smart phone in one and Inreach in the other perfectly. 1 liter water bottle was easy to take out and replace. The sternum strap is perfect and needed as my shoulders hurt at first as well. but with adjustment improved. Since my AT and LT thru hikes this year my body is just not used to carrying the weight now. Overall - Well Done Gossamer and thanks Neemor for doing this!!!
Neemor's World ... Sure do. Southern Cal. National parks for a few weeks in Jan. Costa Rica for 2 weeks in Feb. Maybe thru hiking the Arizona Trail starting late April, early May. Definitely doing the Colorado Trail starting the first week of July. Life is good. How about you? CDT?
+Bill Caulway nice man! Where in Costa Rica are you going? The Colorado trail sounds awesome. That ones on my list for sure. Nahh. I might not hike the CDT. I've never gotten excited about it, and that would be a lot of time and money to do something that I'm not that into. But maybe one day I'll change my mind. I've got a lot of shorter things planned in the next couple of months though.
+Neemor's World - mostly the natural history, parks ect. You have a good attitude about the CDT. I have learned that 6 to 8 weeks is my happy place to be away from home. Being in my 50's I have 3x20 somethings and a wife and we enjoy our time together. They are not into hiking so I'm solo. After the CT and AZT I will probably do the PCT in timed sections. That way I can also do them during the nicest time of year. Keep up the good work on RUclips. You have a real talent. Whenever I see the qaulity that people like you produce it just amazes me. Just not my skill. GG has been very nice to me.
Your videos on this pack (and discount code) helped me pull the trigger on picking up a Kumo of my own! Thanks always for the great insight and content. As an FYI, these are now back in stock on GG’s website.
Great video, loved the comparisons and why it was better or just something to be mindful of. This is a pack I was waiting for your review and thoughts. Thanks for the videos.
Ordered one last night! Was a bit of a toss-up between this one and the ULA CDT. Both seem like great packs but your past videos have shown what the Kumo can do! I hope to sew a version of the LAB pack this winter too.
I have the older pack with those same straps, I noticed that any weight over 18~ lbs. then the straps are uncomfortable but anything under that they don't cut into your shoulder as bad
The shoulder strap padding density is concerning as that is what is supporting the weight. If it's not comfortable then you won't carry it. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
Hey Neemor, can you take a pic of the new seat pad in the Kumo, I’m really curious, I hear it’s different.... Take Care and I hope you and your family have a very Merry Christmas.
Thanks for the discount code. I think the fact that you used the old pack for 3000+ miles speaks the loudest. Do you think other super/hyper light packs can match the Kumo in over loading/weighting situations?
with your handiness with needlework and the growing popularity of the lycra shoulder pockets, I wish someone would do a video on making these types of pockets to add on to existing packs via attachment or even better, just sewing it directly to current should straps. Just sayin! Thanks for the review!
Yeah, I have considered it. back when I used a DSLR it would have made the most sense, but now with smaller cameras and with the huge mic I mount on the top it wouldn't be practical. I like the idea of them though.
@@NeemorsWorld And why do companies send you free gear? Anyway, it doesn't matter what my opinion is. The Federal Trade Commission says you have to disclose compensation. Free gear is compensation.
+Darren Halford thanks Darren! I use my Panasonic for most of my videos, but I try and link everything in the video description. I've been using the adobe premiere pro to edit videos and color grade the past few years, but I might try something else because adobe is getting quite costly 😆 Thanks for watching!
I've just seen you always link to the camera and lens at the bottom of your vids. Why did I think you were using a Sony RX100? Was I drunk when I wrote that message? Love your videos by the way. I enjoy your informal, informative and friendly style. And your editing is succinct. Ta.
Neemor's World Cool! Thanks for the info. Wish they have some sort of special lightweight pocket to securely hold a 1L or 750ml smart water bottle like the ones on UD Fast packs. Personally I think it would be super useful. Otherwise, the pack looks great! Trying to decide between Kumo and UD fast pack. Thanks for the review. Love the soundtrack music 👍
I'm curious what made you go worth the kumo rather than the murmur... I'm thinking to get the murmur but I'm on the fence between the 2. The murmur is 5 ounces lighter fully equipped.
+Bravely Living I am actually not a fan of the murmur. I've heard lots of bad reviews and seen 2 that have ripped on trail. It's lighter, because they used thinner less durable materials. I think the murmur would be great if you only carried 10-12 lbs, but most people carry quite a bit more on food and water carries.
Neemor's World thanks! Is the Pa'lante smaller? I'd love to see a comparison if you feel like doing one at some point. Don't want to put you on the spot between John and GG, though ;) Ordered the Kumo w/your code, BTW, thanks! A steal at that price.
It works well. I usually put my Sleeping pad in the backpannel and dont use the airflow one, but if you kept the sleeping pad inside I can see it being a nice addition. It's definitely a huge improvement over the old closed cell foam version.
for a superior wilderness designs? I'm not that familiar with their stuff, but I don't like mesh pockets with the larger holes like on the HMG Windrider. I much prefer the look of a mesh like on this kumo and on the Palante Simple. I don't like when packs look like they have a fishnet full off goodies hanging off the back. I don't know if that even answered your question. :D
It did alright. I mean, water soaks through, but it didn't hold the water and it dried quickly. I line my packs with these: amzn.to/2k9n9nz to keep things dry.
Great review. I am looking at possibly getting one of these. Then i noticed in addition you have the jacket I have been searching for all winter. Where can i get one?
You’re adorable. I don’t thru hike at this point in my adventures but I’m always looking into new gear that’s tough and functional for future use. Thanks for doing an honest review. 💚
Thinner shoulder pads? Don’t think so. And the hip belt looks too anemic, too. that zip sternum strap will last how long before it snags or breaks? It’s getting to where the pack companies are trying to get creative to distinguish their product. Meh!
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You're a legend for cutting your thermorest in half
seems the slanted back pocket allows access without opening or loosing the top. The slant adds room, most companies may just end the pocket lower and make them both below the top
I just got mine! I can't wait to go out and use it!
Mine arrived today. Great product. Tested it around the house. The shoulder straps fit my Smart phone in one and Inreach in the other perfectly. 1 liter water bottle was easy to take out and replace. The sternum strap is perfect and needed as my shoulders hurt at first as well. but with adjustment improved. Since my AT and LT thru hikes this year my body is just not used to carrying the weight now. Overall - Well Done Gossamer and thanks Neemor for doing this!!!
+Bill Caulway awesome! I'm glad to hear you got one already. You got any trips planned to bring it on soon?
Neemor's World ... Sure do. Southern Cal. National parks for a few weeks in Jan. Costa Rica for 2 weeks in Feb. Maybe thru hiking the Arizona Trail starting late April, early May. Definitely doing the Colorado Trail starting the first week of July. Life is good. How about you? CDT?
+Bill Caulway nice man! Where in Costa Rica are you going? The Colorado trail sounds awesome. That ones on my list for sure.
Nahh. I might not hike the CDT. I've never gotten excited about it, and that would be a lot of time and money to do something that I'm not that into. But maybe one day I'll change my mind.
I've got a lot of shorter things planned in the next couple of months though.
+Neemor's World - mostly the natural history, parks ect. You have a good attitude about the CDT. I have learned that 6 to 8 weeks is my happy place to be away from home. Being in my 50's I have 3x20 somethings and a wife and we enjoy our time together. They are not into hiking so I'm solo. After the CT and AZT I will probably do the PCT in timed sections. That way I can also do them during the nicest time of year.
Keep up the good work on RUclips. You have a real talent. Whenever I see the qaulity that people like you produce it just amazes me. Just not my skill.
GG has been very nice to me.
Looks like they made some really thoughtful incremental improvements to an already great pack and didn't mess with the weight. Very cool.
Ha! That little whistle is genius!!!!!
I got a Kumo 36 this summer for section hikes that I do. I like it
Ha, I just ordered mine, and then saw the discount code... Oh well, it's going to a good place. Can't wait for my new pack!
What a gear review :) this guy really knows what he’s talking about.
Great review!!! One of my favorite hikers !!! Taking this pack on the AT in 2021 !!! .
Cool! Have a great hike!
Thanks bro! Happy trails
2:28 -- Love to see Gossamer Gear introduce the adjustable sternum strap!!
+John Abela the older model was adjustable via a webbing, but it was a struggle 😄
Your videos on this pack (and discount code) helped me pull the trigger on picking up a Kumo of my own! Thanks always for the great insight and content.
As an FYI, these are now back in stock on GG’s website.
Great video, loved the comparisons and why it was better or just something to be mindful of. This is a pack I was waiting for your review and thoughts. Thanks for the videos.
I’m actually going to order the pack today. This video put me over the edge. I can’t wait to test it out!!
Sweet! Enjoy it!
Ordered one last night! Was a bit of a toss-up between this one and the ULA CDT. Both seem like great packs but your past videos have shown what the Kumo can do! I hope to sew a version of the LAB pack this winter too.
Great review. Thanks for bringing attention to this underrated pack. I have the generation before your old one and I love it.
I have the older pack with those same straps, I noticed that any weight over 18~ lbs. then the straps are uncomfortable but anything under that they don't cut into your shoulder as bad
Now that you’ve had it awhile, any chance you’re contemplating another review?
I actually don’t own it anymore. Been using my Pa’lante for about the 2 past years.
Don't you love how drinking the fresh melting snow puts you more in tune with nature? I LOVE the high Sierras.
Great review, love the honesty!!!
Nice review, thanks!
Great vid! Have had my eye on this pk for a few yrs and like the 2nd Gen mods! Sub+
The shoulder strap padding density is concerning as that is what is supporting the weight. If it's not comfortable then you won't carry it. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
TheGoatMumbler - I have it and at first the straps bothered me. After adjusting the sternum strap and hip belt it was better.
Just ordered one! Thanks for the 15% discount, mayne!
+Steven Crout no problem! Enjoy it!
Let me know your thoughts on it when you've had a chance to give it some use.
Hey Neemor, can you take a pic of the new seat pad in the Kumo, I’m really curious, I hear it’s different.... Take Care and I hope you and your family have a very Merry Christmas.
Which pack would you prefer this or the HMG Southwest ????? Nice video BTW
Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the discount code. I think the fact that you used the old pack for 3000+ miles speaks the loudest. Do you think other super/hyper light packs can match the Kumo in over loading/weighting situations?
Yup! There are a lot of other lightweight packs that would be comparable in durability, but most of them are a bit more expensive than the Kumo.
Very nice review.
with your handiness with needlework and the growing popularity of the lycra shoulder pockets, I wish someone would do a video on making these types of pockets to add on to existing packs via attachment or even better, just sewing it directly to current should straps. Just sayin! Thanks for the review!
Have you ever considered using Peak Designs Capture or Capture pro for your camera?
Yeah, I have considered it. back when I used a DSLR it would have made the most sense, but now with smaller cameras and with the huge mic I mount on the top it wouldn't be practical. I like the idea of them though.
Just ordered one👍🏻looks great!
+Vandringskanalen awesome! Let me know what you think of it!
Yep! Will do!
I was wondering if you still liked it. Thanks.
yup!
If they sent you the bag to keep, then they did compensate you to make the review.
Not quite how it works. I get a lot of free gear that doesn't make it to a review. After all, free backpacks don't pay the bills.
@@NeemorsWorld And why do companies send you free gear? Anyway, it doesn't matter what my opinion is. The Federal Trade Commission says you have to disclose compensation. Free gear is compensation.
On the new model..are the shoulder strap pouches big enough for a 16oz water bottle?
You could probably jam em in there, but after time I think it would wear out the pocket
Haha Maybe you will answer them. Great review my brother!
no promises ;)
Nice review. Are these made in the U.S. or China?
+Mark Bishop neither, they are headquartered in Austin, and outsource the assembly to a business in Vietnam I believe.
They do a great job 👌🏻
@4:15 how tall it's the front stretchy fabric on the right side? From the base of the pack (the floor if it was resting on the ground) to the rim.
Hey Neemor, your vids always look very cinematic. Are they all shot on the Sony RX100? Do you do any filters in the edit? Ta.
+Darren Halford thanks Darren! I use my Panasonic for most of my videos, but I try and link everything in the video description.
I've been using the adobe premiere pro to edit videos and color grade the past few years, but I might try something else because adobe is getting quite costly 😆
Thanks for watching!
I've just seen you always link to the camera and lens at the bottom of your vids. Why did I think you were using a Sony RX100? Was I drunk when I wrote that message? Love your videos by the way. I enjoy your informal, informative and friendly style. And your editing is succinct. Ta.
Could you fit a 1L smart water bottle on the front mesh pockets on the shoulder strap?
Not easily. You could jam it in there, but the pocket wouldn’t last very long.
Neemor's World Cool! Thanks for the info. Wish they have some sort of special lightweight pocket to securely hold a 1L or 750ml smart water bottle like the ones on UD Fast packs. Personally I think it would be super useful. Otherwise, the pack looks great! Trying to decide between Kumo and UD fast pack. Thanks for the review. Love the soundtrack music 👍
Sorry another follow up question; the bear can you put in the Kumo... Is that the BV500 or smaller BV450?
I used the BV 500 on the PCT.
I'm curious what made you go worth the kumo rather than the murmur... I'm thinking to get the murmur but I'm on the fence between the 2. The murmur is 5 ounces lighter fully equipped.
+Bravely Living I am actually not a fan of the murmur. I've heard lots of bad reviews and seen 2 that have ripped on trail. It's lighter, because they used thinner less durable materials. I think the murmur would be great if you only carried 10-12 lbs, but most people carry quite a bit more on food and water carries.
Neemor's World thanks for the input... I'll go with the kumo...I was worried about durability!
Nice review.
What is the difference between double wall and single wall mugs?
Between this and the Pa'lante, which is your favorite?
I use the Palante more because of its size, but both are great packs.
Neemor's World thanks! Is the Pa'lante smaller? I'd love to see a comparison if you feel like doing one at some point. Don't want to put you on the spot between John and GG, though ;)
Ordered the Kumo w/your code, BTW, thanks! A steal at that price.
Love the scary thermarest edit.
Good vid. Subscribed.
+Gusto St. Cool thanks!
How works the AIR FLOW SITLIGHT CAMP SEAT ? still happy of it ?
It works well. I usually put my Sleeping pad in the backpannel and dont use the airflow one, but if you kept the sleeping pad inside I can see it being a nice addition. It's definitely a huge improvement over the old closed cell foam version.
Neemor, would you go with strong mesh on the front pocket or the standard lycra mesh for a SWD pack?
for a superior wilderness designs? I'm not that familiar with their stuff, but I don't like mesh pockets with the larger holes like on the HMG Windrider. I much prefer the look of a mesh like on this kumo and on the Palante Simple. I don't like when packs look like they have a fishnet full off goodies hanging off the back.
I don't know if that even answered your question. :D
It prolly don't have any practical use either. I just went ahead and changed to the smaller mesh. And it kinda looks better.
Has anyone tried to put the nightlight torso pad in this pack where the sit pad is?
Will Schultz it should fit no prob. I'm able to fit a full sized neo air and sea to summit ultralight in there as well
Paul Solis good to hear, Thank you! 👍🏻
What kind of ridlgid waterbottles do you use in the shoulder pockets?
What kind of jacket are you wearing in this video?
I'm not sure. My mom bought it for me when I was like 15.
How did the pack do in wet conditions (rain)?
Love all your videos bro. Thank you!
It did alright. I mean, water soaks through, but it didn't hold the water and it dried quickly. I line my packs with these: amzn.to/2k9n9nz to keep things dry.
Thank you. I just bought mine today. And thank you for the discount code!
Thanks for the support on Patreon man!
Your videos are great! Keep it coming bro!
Does the Kumo 36 try to round out on the back panel or does the sitpad keep it pretty flat.
If anyone's interested camo kumos are on sale for $140 as of march 4
Great review. I am looking at possibly getting one of these. Then i noticed in addition you have the jacket I have been searching for all winter. Where can i get one?
Does anyone know if a fullsize z lite fits in the sit pad meshs?
You’re adorable. I don’t thru hike at this point in my adventures but I’m always looking into new gear that’s tough and functional for future use. Thanks for doing an honest review. 💚
Does it have any hidden pockets for my weed?
+Gusto St. Cool if it does, I haven't found it yet. 🕵🏻
Man I have 3 designs for packs that would tottaly change the pack world. Lol
You better get sewing! :D I'd love to see them.
You are so stinking adorable 😋
Thinner shoulder pads? Don’t think so. And the hip belt looks too anemic, too. that zip sternum strap will last how long before it snags or breaks? It’s getting to where the pack companies are trying to get creative to distinguish their product. Meh!