@@christinedaae3990 If you find the show entertaining, do you. Just do so realizing John Oliver's job is to be a Capitalist sanctioned pressure release valve.
@@christinedaae3990 to be honest, I think it's fine. While LWT isn't really leftist, I feel like it's kind of a good gateway for new people. I dont think I would have been as open to watching long form video essays about depressing topics if LWT didnt give me a taste for them.
Reminds me of the indigenous tribe in Brasil who, when asked about why they wanted to protect "the nature" so much, they awnsered: "We are not protecting 'the nature'. We are the nature. We are protecting ourselves".
if you're interested in indigenous people's fights for their rights i would check out the documentary "Invasion" made my rhe Wet'suwet'en people of the Unist'ot'en camp in Canada. It's very interesting and troubling and it's still currently unfolding
@Nellie Rutten Why? You're saying that as if everyone's like that. Or perhaps that that is the sole issue for determining the value of supporting this particular cause. I generally believe it is better to be hypocritical and in support of a 'good' cause than to be against it. But then I'd assume it's easier to convince the former of the necessity for actual change. Even if you disagree with me, that doesn't make said cause less worthwhile. It could simply mean we need to try even harder.
this impotent hope that the men responsible for the death of our species will "get what they deserve" is even more pathetic than the millions of people who think we're going to "fix" climate change. but if upvoting these comments makes you happy, may as well. not like anything else you do matters, may as well feel good.
Joey Wheeler Dude. You’re totally right. It’s so unnerving to see someone as kind and thoughtful as Olly play such a chilling character. After watching the fascism video, I’ve put off this one because there’s something about the arsonist that just makes me viscerally uncomfortable.
Calm yourselves my Caucasian(TM) friends. He simply wants to share his important ideas about race and society. God, these snowflake leftists are so sensitive they could hear a dog whistle.
"Wide open country, fresh for discovery, not a soul living there." It disturbs me how something so obviously incorrect and wrong smacks so strongly of current rhetoric. *shudders*
You won't believe the nonsense lines these people use for their historical narrative myths. I expect you'll hear the refrain, "Not stolen, but conquered!" a lot very soon. Yes, really. Because the are such knobs they don't realize that this is a distinction without a difference.
Ugh. It annoys me to no fucking end. My people have been on the plains for roughly 700 or 800 years, and had many many sights like the one in Standing Rock. But because of Manifest Destiny, and the idea that the are was EMPTY, we had to be forced into submission. My Tribe never surrendered. We were massacred into giving up arms, and living on a Reservation. It's true. In that regard. That we are living in a Post Apocalyptic, authoritarian world that looks down upon us, and spits upon what we consider sacred. But oh nooooo... A church caught fire! Save it! Save it! (I will say. I do feel bad about the Notre Dame. NO ONE SHOULD EVER HAVE ANY, ANY OF THEIR SPIRITUAL SITES DESTROYED)
Foxrider Scorpion Well, as someone who used to argue your position, there is a difference, but can’t help feeling the difference doesn’t make it any better. The difference is that stolen is between people within a society, and conquered is stolen between people of separate societies. I still think conquered is bad, but it’s hard to judge someone by morals that only exist within a society. So there is a distinction that makes a small difference, but not a significant one.
there's something about "the arsonist" that just hits me so hard. He has all the appearance of a calm, collected, polite gentleman. He presents himself as utterly rational, he's handsome, charismatic, and he makes the effort to sound reasonable. All of which serves to make his comments such as "There was a wide open country... not a soul living there, and they built a great big civilization... isnt that admirable?" and "If you're tired, poor, hungry, wretched, then please feel free to apply through the proper channels." even more unsettling because theyre hidden behind this facade of civility.
as someone with a chronic illness who requires very specific medication to function and ultimately stay alive, and will not survive should society collapse, I have come to feel that climate grief is the same as grieving for my own life. to see the sky go dark in my city because of the smoke of the amazon fires felt very much like watching my own life being threatened, and it was surreal and horrifying. the past few days have been an emotional rollercoaster, and then this video drops and wow this ride just keeps on going huh?? i guess what i'm trying to say is, i'll just press F for myself while we still have functioning keyboards and godspeed to all you faithful gamers :)
@@rnorthey4008 Yes I am, and it was freaking horrifying to see the sky go dark like that. I mean, it was like the sky was about to come down since the clouds looked much closer than any storm I've ever seen. And then I found out why and I saw the satelite images from the Amazon and wow that did feel like the actual end of the world.
Marina Liz same, dude. A couple years ago when the county below mine was on fire (I live in California), I started panicking wondering how I’d get my thyroid medication if the highway was on fire and trucks couldn’t come through. Then I started panicking about climate change. It’s been a looming concern in my mind since I was seven years old, and it’s absolutely terrifying. I hope the planet is at least marginally alright when I’m older (if I get to be older).
@@MissHeathen "As the world fell, each one of us was, in their own way...broken. It was hard to know who was more crazy: me...or everyone else." - Mad Max, Fury Road
The part at 15:34 is so chilling, perfect way of showing how dogwhistles work so sneakily. Having him pause for his cigarette to cut out the word "white" was a great artistic decision that made it clear but not too clear as dogwhistles are meant to be.
I'm so so glad you talked about the Indigenous part of this conversation. Not enough people consider us when we have been living sustainably for MILLENIA
The problem isn't we got seven billion people. Problem is we got seven billion people and they all want washing machines the solution the people who already got washing machines is not to make washing machines not harmful to the planet, but to tell the people without washing machines, "Fuck you, filthy s*vage, I got mine!"
Yes. Especially about what happened at Standing Rock. Even without stopping the pipeline, it was a major breakthrough in that the political left and the spiritual left have finally found back to each other. It seems like not only the Beatles broke up 50 years ago, but the whole movements of change were infiltrated by people who gaslighted us all towards fracturing ourselves into tiny tribes again.
@casual complaints haha let's hear it, ottoman empire at least improved the cities when they were, Britain wrecked countries short terms and long term. Ottom empire at least allowed a country to thrive by not sending capital and product made back to their country of origin like Britain did.
@casual complaints You're really going to tell me that after saying a racist lie about native americans? I'm not the one who needs to 'find out the bigger realities'. After all, I'm not such a twat that I feel the need the need to use a cringey 'meme' format to belittle and create fear around an already oppressed group. You're just a bitter, petty person.
So.. what were your favorite parts about living in a society? It turns out I really miss libraries, museums, and reading in cafés with other people around. Also petting other people's dogs.
I love the arsonist character, not in that kind of way, I love that you make him extremely likable and well dressed etc, it is the perfect portrayal of how fascists work and how people so easily fall victim to their rhetoric and ideas. Everyone wants to think of fascists as they do skinheads and not intelligent well educated, well spoken CEO and at face value friendly types.
This is why I hate the idea of respectability politics so much. Even the most trashy (read: nonconforming and brash) leftist will be better than a well presenting fascist.
casual complaints what defines as respect? Our old president José Mujica lived in a shack in the outskirts of town and always dressed very casually, donated all his money to the poor. Is that presenting one with respect? Is there different kinds of respect?
I agree. I also like how he disguises his assertions and desires as mere musings as though he is in denial of what he is for the time being (and just waiting for a match).
One more thing compadres, there are some excellent references here as books. But if you choose to buy them, get them from your local book store or library and not Amazon.
in the states, Amazon owns Barnes and noble which has become a monopoly on the book selling business. at least in the bay area, those stores are more prevalent
I want to explain, that yes. As a Lakota woman. I am. Living in a Post Apocalyptic world. My peoples language, spiritual beliefs, philosphies, sexual identity and even our sciences. Were nearly snuffed out, and are today. Tightly controlled, and mocked. We live today, in what we see as an empty world. There is no real connection to our enviroment, ourselves or acceptance that each and every person are truly, fundamentally different. But... We are. Willing. Damned willing. To make things work, and now that we have technology (as detrimental as it is) to communicate with not only other indigenous peoples around the world, but also directly to people in power and broadcast our voices as far as we can. We hope to become leaders in environmental change. It's not that we want to go right back to our old life styles, it's that we want that choice, to live a life that has a resemblance to it. To be free to live the way we want to. And without harassment or ridicule. Just to be free and happy. Just with things like soda, tacos, tea, anime and cats. Lots and lots of cats
In the Arthurian mythology there is a direct connection between Arthur, the king, and the land. We have to “rediscover “ the land and the people are one. Our environment shapes us as much (and probably more) as we shape our environment.
@@Jostein1945 I'm a white anthropologist. Many indigenous peoples' both in the Americas' and elsewhere often recognise radically different gender/sexual identities than those found in European cultures; Two-spirited, Muxe, Fa'afafine, Māhū, being examples. People who hold these identities have been subjected to violent 'Westernisation', under colonialist/settler regimes that sought to destroy them for not conforming to the peculiarly European notions of gender/sex and sexuality.
I don’t mean to be insensitive, but I don’t really know how to phrase this. First, it sounds like you just want to have your cake and eat it too. Second, cats are ecological disasters. They definitely change the environment... just not in a good way.
Faked Moon Landings I don’t see it as having ones cake and eating it. It sounds like she just wants a revitalization of her culture adapted for the modern age. But your right about cats, of course, they pale in comparison to the true Bain of the Americas... 🐖
GOSH THROWBACK TO THAT ONE THAT WAS "ARTISTIC STANDARDS VS TIME" AND IT HIT ZERO AT THE MOMENT IT ALL "BECAME ABOUT PERSONAL EXPRESSION" LIKE like ... i want off this ride
@@screwsinabell I loved to play that part back in 8th grade... and I'm so jealous that Olly is SOOO much better at it than I could ever hope to be... but I fucking love him playing the arsonist nonetheless. let's start a club of arsonist-lovers! :P Have a nice evening.
"what was your favorite bit about living in a society?" y'know, that brought me to tears the first time i heard it, and it did again now. damn. this just got unbearably real
@@hareema4442 don't be afraid. capitalism will go. and we'll build a new society. Better, stronger and closer. Just do what you can to minimaze the damage.
I studied to be a climate scientist and this is the first video about the topic that I feel has captured the scale of everything. Thank you for your skillful handing of the conversation. I love your work
Grape Jam Hi there, you can access the raw satellite data and images yourself by using USGS Earth Explorer and selecting the images from LANDSAT. I look forward to your research paper, please link it here when you’ve successfully relocated our missing ice shelves.
"A lot of trans people might find it difficult to survive in the post-apocalyptic wasteland without a steady supply of synthesizer music and flannel shirts." As a certified Tran I can confirm
@@madscientistshusta well maybe that if society was not f*cking around with us so bad, we wouldn't be tempted to take away our lives. But rest assured my will to struggle is strong. Besides, statistic applied to "mental illnesses" do not really mean a lot, as there are a plethora of mental illnesses. But I'm sure someone as instructed as you could be a little bit more specific.
@@madscientistshusta We know how to live in the shit. You sis pansies would not know what a struggle is so if it hit you in the face. You won't make a week without star bucks.
@@LucasDeziderio somewhere in one of his segments the arsonist starts quoting the fourteen words: "we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" only leaving out the "white" this is a common neo-nazi and alt-right slogan.
@Kapten Krok the type of loser to keep using the same lame troll all over the content section. If you're not a pre-teen, Kap'n, you should probably stop acting like one.
Imagine a world where they burned the Amazon so badly in one day that the literal corpses of cremated trees floated to the other side of the subcontinent, covering its most populous city, blotting out the sun, bringing darkness at noon. Sounds dramatic, right? But it's not hyperbole. It's literally what happened here in São Paulo, Brazil, 19th August 2019. Search for the photos and videos yourselves.
We saw it. At least all those who watched TYT instead of CNN. Was hard to watch. I just hope enough brazilian citizins wake up and resist. I also hope we can organize as much boycott against brazilian products as possible. I heard there is some new TTP and NAFTA deal in the making...
Holy fuck I hadn't heard of that. I found Marcus Mendes on twitter after a google search. Those images are dystopic af....it's like it's from Joker's wettest dream
Yep I am here, it was night time at 3 pm, we all expected a huge rain that would like ruin the city or something, but it was just a little bit of rain that lasted for like 10 minutes... the water was black. About possible going against stuff ppl will go to the streets today to show they are not satisfied, but the ability of the government to deny things is impressive. There is only So much we can do, and boycotting doesn't help much but yeah u can do that, knowing what we can do is kinda what can keep us away from existential dread and climate dispare.. grief is good tho
@brocoli the dark sky in Sao Paulo has nothing to do the bolivian fire!! meteorologists from INPE said the couldn’t find a connection betwen those two! stop lying about our country
In 2009, I started study Meteorology as green liberal, full of optimism Now, I'm a depressed anti-capitalist We don't need scientists, we need radical action.
I did some climate change courses in my ecology & evolution master and jesus that was THE MOST DEPRESSING SHIT. it‘s that. we have the science. we know what’s happening. we know what needs to be done. but capital is keeping us back. but yes, we also need scientists, because if we are ever to live through a revolution, we will be needed. god, it‘s depressing.
One of my favorite things about these videos is how each book or paper referenced is shown on screen and listed in a bibliography in the video description. It's a nice touch that not many other creators do. I just wanted to voice my appreciation for that extra effort.
I second this comment. Everytime I see the reference displayed, I smile. It's a fairly simple, common sense edit, yet it seems to be overlooked all too frequently in many RUclips videos. It truly is appreciated.
Reminded me of the American Psycho Batesman acting as if he sincerely cared about NGO activism by showing off how good he can run down activist talking points.
Stuart Richards maybe my comment was a bit hyperbolic, but those people royally piss me off. Also, the fascists are the ones committing mass murders of innocents, and people like described are legitimizing and egging on those people.
"what are going to do when our homes flood?" well according to Ben Shapiro you can "sell" and move somewhere else...we'll talk about who you can sell to when it comes up, I suppose
"A lot of trans people might find it tough to survive in the post-apocalyptic wasteland without a steady supply of synthesizer music and flannel shirts" Why must you attack me like this
Jalae Lain Casaus that’s hilarious, we have military aircraft refuel at our airport on occasion and when I lived near the airport and heard them flying low and fast some days I’d just close my eyes and hope to hear a rumble...
Lotus Auer I’ve lived my entire life within 20 miles of “strategic military assets” so I always figured if it comes to all out war I and most of my family will be quickly killed. It’s a weird comfort, since I genuinely enjoy life and living.
"Have you heard about these forest fires? It's dreadful, simply dreadful! You know when I was a traveling salesman, I once had the opportunity to visit Napa Valley, woo the upper echelon. Such interesting people, though so different from you and I. Anyway, they say that the fires were caused in part by global warming. You know, I'm as concerned as the next chap about the world at large, but global warming? I'm not so sure I'm convinced." -The Arsonist Probably
@@annemcculloh9572 That part made me so angry. He's so real I can feel the flesh of the cheeks of a fictional character hitting my fists. Best video by Holly so far, imho.
Watching the wildfires bit in Australia in early January 2020. 2 million acres burned sounds like wishful thinking right now (we’re currently at about15 million acres burned, and over a billion native animals lost). So, that climate change, hey?
Climate Change or policy dating back a decade that stopped the clearing of brush which given the drought conditions and arson resulted in Hell on Earth? Problem with Climate Change is that it is often used like our ancestors used the "gods" or "spirits" to explain events. Look at the supposed Amazon Climate Change fires that weren't. They were brush fires started by farmers to clear land of brush and forest. More fires were started in Africa, but they didn't get the attention.
The bushfires in Australia were mostly caused after a dry season and the dry scrub being ignited by lightning. Of course there never any droughts or lightning before there was an imaginary climate "catastrophe"
@@Blackgeoff1 they are far worse nowadays, and happen more frequently. Earlier they would've started, and then stopped. Due to climate change they happen more severely. We're supposed to be going in an ice age, and yet the world's getting hotter.
@@ipadair7345 just to 'yes and' on your point here - and on the points abby makes about colonialism+climate change together- one of the reasons the brush was left there *to* burn is because aboriginal australians have been discriminated against and pushed off the land. Many of the forests that burned were well managed for thousands of years by aboriginal people who understood the need for small, controlled burning in the forest ecosystem. Aboriginal equality and landknowledge is crucial to fighting climate change and preventing it from getting worse- but currently, the same system marginalising them is also currently burning up the world for a quick buck. Also anyone looking at *australia* and claiming climate change is a myth is both unhinged and deeply calous. Like why even bother when theres a honking great man-made hole in the ozone layer right above it?
The thought of David Koch burning in hell is probably the single most seductive case for believing in god I've heard in years. Whether that's a statement on the reprehensibility of David Koch or the intellectually bankrupt state of religious apologetics I'll leave up to interpretation.
I'm an ecologist that specializes in aquaculture and fisheries. I wish the topic of ecological philosophy, as well as the social issues causing climate disaster was taught to students!! Also, this is certainly one of the best takes on ecological philosophy I've seen to date, thank you so much for creating this!
Hey, message from the future here. We did it. We defeated him. And now we can try to mitigate the damage with a president that is not actively trying to murder us all.
I am a professional climate organizer and deal with this topic on the daily. What keeps me going in that work is the very true fact that there is and always will be a resistance movement of people caring about and for each other. I keep a vision clear in my mind of what a true community of vulnerability will look like and find ways to take steps in my daily work to make that a reality. It also helps to focus on what I can control, what I can do right now, and who I am building with. At this point I'm just not interested in thinking about failure. It doesn't serve me or anyone. I'm much more interested in resiliency planning, building community, manifesting a new kind of thriving, and in believing in the people I see working their asses off to do what they can right now. If you are freaking out and need an outlet, find ways to connect to your local climate orgs and set up a meeting with an organizer. You are not alone and I promise you we are going to make it through this somehow.
"Apocalypse" (ἀποκάλυψις) is a Greek word meaning "revelation", "an unveiling or unfolding of things not previously known and which could not be known apart from the unveiling".
I hope you talk about the huge criminal fires that have been on mainly Brazilian rainforest in Amazonas, and the relation with the political situation on there were the Steve Banon's oriented government is favoring legislation that covers farmers and stimulate putting forest down to open up for more farms.
Can't even say that it's foreign fault, Brasil has been controled by landlords since 1500, even with the 1988 Constitution there weren't substantial or political changes.
I think that's unlikely, to my understanding Olly takes a while to write a script, film and edit the video. So I suspect the video already was filmen when the news of the fire hit
@@poetanderson2495 "Always being perfectly lovely to them" has nothing to do with whether or not you're prejudiced towards a group of people; if someone asked you, "How do you feel about X people?" and you said "Well, I always make sure I'm very polite when dealing with them," you're not actually saying anything about how you feel about the group in question except that you treat them differently.
I feel Jacob Reese-Mogg is the perfect example of this. He treats everyone with a cold politeness that he uses to try and disguise his contempt for everyone and completely lack of empathy
Thank you for talking about what we're struggling with here in Brazil, Oliver. The destruction happening to our forests won't only affect our indigenous communities and society in general, but the whole world.
Perfect timing, the “president” of Brazil just said “It’s enough to poop every other day” when asked about climate change. Now we have the Amazon fire and people are starting to awake about preserving nature
@@darkmelancholy oh boy plz don't give me idea, I am basically a teen who is existentially exhausted due to being desperate about this fucking government
This is some of the very best work I've seen from a channel which is consistently excellent. I love the character of The Arsonist and how he's included here in particular. He encapsulates a lot of the qualities of the modern day villains who do the most actual damage - carefully, consciously concealing his ruthless destructiveness under a smokescreen of civility and privilege, *knowing* that many of his victims are fully aware it's a charade, and knowing also that they can't effectively call him out on it because of the real power of that same privilege. Linking the political and the ecological back together is a perspective I hadn't contemplated before. Trying to talk about all the different issues separately feels really overwhelming, even if all I do is talk to people I know both offline and on the web. If the scientific, political and moral problems are different facets of one big problem, in a way it's sort of emotionally easier to get one's arms around.
Well said, Crystal! Environmentalists who aren't politically aware or progressive can also fall prey to all sorts of misanthropic beliefs. Internalizing capitalism to such an extent that they believe mankind can only be a parasite upon the earth, thinking that human beings are inherently individualistic and selfish, and so on. I think the biggest challenge in dealing with climate change is the re-organization of society, especially convincing people with 'comfortable' lives to act on predictions of the future. This kind of unprecedented change is a massive emotional and intellectual undertaking and it won't be an easy one!
W Baldwin “Anyone who has to act for a video that we are supposed to take completely serious probably shouldn’t be taken serious.” I don’t think I agree with you there. In professional philosophy, presenting your arguments in the form of a dialogue or play is pretty common. Olly isn’t just presenting his own arguments in this video, but also the arguments of others (sometimes presenting positions that are antithetical to his own views). In a video essay, it makes more sense to present those different positions through original characters than to sit in front of a bookshelf in a suit saying, “the way a fascist may approach this topic is....” Especially when the content creator is a professional actor, it makes sense to use costume changes and original characters to show when the philosophical framework Olly is using shifts.
Now you rarely hear it mentioned, the world forgot about it and the government buried it under the rug, like they do with all their atrocities. I wish i could have been there to stand with them in person..
Ultimately their protest, even if it was successful, would only mean making the pipeline even longer, which means inherently means increasing the odds of leaks. Because there was no way in hell anyone would stop that project from being completed. Least of all a bunch of ill-informed yuppies ironically burning fuel to trek across half the country to protest a fuel company. I don't blame people for wanting to protect sacred land. But I also wouldn't blame them for taking the money. If my descendants ever end up in such a situation, I'd say take the money. Use it to build a school. Physical remains are not what matters. It's ideas that matter. Why should they care about decomposed corpse? What good are my bones doing them? It's also kinda ironic because oil is the result of millions of years of decomposed bio-matter. It seems to me like egos getting in the way of progress. We all end up turning to fuel anyways... Great ideas carry on.
Your protest was stupid. A pipeline is powered by gravity and pumps. If it doesn't go through one then it's on a Diesel electric trains, or a Diesel powered category 10 class truck. A pipeline is the most environmental way of using energy
@@pluckyduck11y Or perhaps the stupid fucking oil company could avoid cutting corners that lead to high likelihoods of leaks in the first place. Even if that oil pipeline was necessary or justified, you know what's not? Cutting corners for profits at the detriment of both consumers and the surrounding communities. This whole meme of people being stomped out in the name of "SOCIAL PROGRESSION" is reminiscent of the history of colonial imperialism on a whole. How many people were stolen from, lied to, or killed in the name of "social progression" and furthermore, can you even fucking call it *social* progression? The results of pushing this kind of """"""S O C I A L"""""" progression looked more like societal regression and exploitation to me. What does the community get out of it besides decades of tainted fucking drinking water and a one time payment of a few greenbacks? And this whole thing about trying to point out the hypocrisy of activists who traveled there using fuel is a good fucking meme too. Kinda hard to get there using other methods *when there are none.* How do you expect these activists to not use fossil fuel dependent vehicles when that's practically the only form of transportation, and sustainable alternatives are insanely expensive while most people can barely make ends meet. So how could they even afford to buy a brand new expensive electric car, let alone a fucking reliable car in general that isn't some decade old fucking beater? And while i share your attitude to remains and corpses, i do not condone disrespecting the dead by sticking a fucking pipeline in their burial grounds. And just because you don't see remains and burial grounds as anything special, the native people do. Their ancestors are sacred as are their lands. Too sacred to be tainted by some fucking leaking pipeline. How can anyone spout this nonsense? Did you even watch the video?
@@thevoiceofthelost You don't think it's just a tad hair-brained conspiratorial to think these Greedy Guses actually WANT to waste money? Everything you're fear-mongering over ends up being a waste of money. You can't have it both ways. If they are greedy, how do you figure they want to waste money? It is their explicit business to waste as little as possible. Why are you bringing up electric cars? How do you think the electricity they use is charged? As for tainted water - the government would love nothing more than to fine these companies tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars for that. Again, you're talking about waste. Why would these greedy money-grubbing oil barons WANT to waste oil and be fined on top of that?
my god your productions keep getting better, love the direction. I think you and Natalie are creating a new genre regarding philosophy, modern critique, etc...
As a teenager, I want to thank you for this. I'm revisiting this video a year later as California is on fire again and the amount of change that is happening continues to amount to nothing. With the combination of this, and much of what is happening in my country, it is easy to fall into a trap of nothing but grief and anxiety, leading to a path of doing nothing to change it or make a better life. (It is hard to change the world from my position as a teenager in a small town, but still. If you have advice, let me know.) It's important to not fall into that depression and keep in mind that even if I can't change the whole world I can help those around me - if I can change even one life it's enough. (A hard fact to remember, but a true one nonetheless.) This video was very informative, and managed to educate me while reminding me to keep a sense of hope - if not for the world's future (or my distant future) but instead for my ability to make some people happy, and leave at least a small impact on the world. ( I have more thoughts on this video, but I don't know how to word it all, and this comment is already quite long.)
Good luck! You’ll change the world for the better 👍 (btw there’s a wise saying from a Chinese person ”we’re all born to change the world with no other choices. It’s either to make it go a tiny bit better or tiny bit worse)
Three books that have really helped me to deal with Climate Grief: 1. Hot Earth Dreams by Frank Landis. This book is excellent because it takes an educated and extremely long-term view of the probable effects of climate change in a worst-case scenario where humans are still likely to survive. It’s really good to have a realistic idea of what we and our descendants are going to be facing up against after we stop pretending. 2. After the Ice by Stephen Mithen. This is a history of Paleolithic humans, with special attention paid to how our ancestors reacted to climactic changes in their own time. For me it really shone a light on how our ways of life can change radically as conditions change. If there are humans or creatures like humans who will be alive into the deep future they’ll face challenges that are the result of our actions today. But these people won’t just live in our shadow eternally. Their ways of life will the the only ones they know, and they’ll find many things to love about them. In the same way, Paleolothic people who were forced from sedentary lives into nomadic ones by climate change would have found things to love about their new lifestyle, it being the only one they know. 3. Always Coming Home, by Ursula le Guin. This is a story, sort of a fictional ethnography, about an extremely far distant future where the apocalyptic events that happened to our civilization (climate change, war, pollution) isn’t even remembered. The people the book focuses on combine aspects of hunter-gathered, agricultural, and industrial lifestyles (for example, they have access to things like trains and electricity, but totally eschew mass production). Societies that attempt to build up an industrial state like today’s generally fail, because with one thing and another the planet is too weak to support that kind of lifestyle. For me these books have worked as a sort of 1-2-3 punch. They haven’t anaesthetized me, I’m still politically active and I still want to change my lifestyle as much as I can to live in a better way. But they’ve helped to show me a sort of hope on the far side of despair.
Thank you for these recommendations! Climate change absolutely terrifies me, so anything that can give me a bit of hope is seriously appreciated. Thank you again!
@@ecta9604 I'm trying to be a bigger reader (depression brought on by climate change, hi!) but Jeff Vandermeer's books have had an oddly-violent cathartic effect over me. He's like an ice bath of existential dread mixed with the wonder of no-longer-industrialized worlds... terrifying and beautiful. Mostly the latter.
vlogo it used to just be about the number of transistors on a chip, and it was completely accurate then. It’s really annoying that infinite growth became a sales pitch.
Well, it is still true that technology increases at an astonishing rate, but of course it doesn't really mean anything if it isn't being put to good use, or if the development is in unhelpful places. Technology that could help us the most like battery technology has been standing still for quite some time compared to computing power.
@@dig8634 computing power can help us quite a lot when it comes to climate science, so much of it is based of modeling and computations. And even with the massive progress done, we are still quite a bit far from having reliable regional predictions of climate evolution under anthropic forcing.
@@jeanf6295 Yeah, I obviously don't think computing power is useless, it's just not what would help the most right now. It takes longer for computer models to help compared to upgrades in power supply and storage since power production is the biggest polluter alongside other oil products.
from an angry computer person perspective, all the increase appears spent on webpage ads, poorly optimized programs, and humanity's insatiable desire for higher fidelity graphics and sound (with diminishing returns).
Well! That was uplifting. (The Arsonist is a really good character. I've heard people say almost word-for-word the things he says and not even realize they're fanning the fire. :c )
@@xtheword well *yes* but given that parts of the Amazon Rainforest are on fire rn its feeling sadly appropriate (and been causing me mild anxiety, despite being a whole hemisphere away :/)
@@BookofMac8737 The thing is due to the Rainforest yearly climate it shouldn't be on fire. It rains so much all year round that's why it's called the RAIN forest. Its different from the forests in California which suffer droughts and historically have yearly wildfires.
@@BookofMac8737 Coming from someone who's already run the full gamut from Climate Change Awareness to Utter And Total Fucking Climate Despair and come out on the other side of it: you will get to the other side and start to understand that you can't do anything while you're a basketcase! :D It gets better. (In other words, Climate Change Acceptance is the last step just like with any other kind of grief. Olly was spot on!)
I'm a design student and at my particular school, a lot of the problems they ask us to "solve" or at least address through design have been based on the UN's Sustainable Development Goals. Being a communist in that equation, especially with the course focused firmly on climate change, has been an incredibly frustrating and alienating experience, because many people really do seem to believe that "saving the planet" lies in designers using different materials or in raising people's motivation or in making the personal choice not to travel by plane. There was no acknowledgement of the fundamental link to capitalism, hell, not even of the fact that so much change is held back by eg oil companies. And it can be a difficult thing to explain to people who don't already believe capitalism is something that needs to be done away with; a lot of people take it as a neglect of "personal responsibility" if you argue that consumer behavior is not how we counter-act climate change. I'm hardly a good debater in the first place, but it is an area of discussion I find uniquely frustrating, and I still don't know how to introduce the more useful ways of thinking about the issue in a way people take seriously. I really appreciate the idea of focusing on what parts of modern society we want to keep and which we don't, however. Just like "apocalypse" doesn't mean "end of the world" in Greek, people misunderstand "Ragnarok", for it is as much the start of a new world as it's the end of an old. Reading the conflict between gods and jötnar as between society and nature, it is even completely analogous with societal collapse brought on by climate change. Perhaps we would not despair so if we had more trust in what a changed world could look like.
Ever since I was a little child I knew when Earth would die, thanks to science fact books. The sun would start to expand in five billion years, but swallow the earth at maybe 7 billion, the planet becoming inhabitable somewhere between, probably sooner than later. It made me enjoy sci-fi books even more, knowing we had so much time to become the best we could be. Then a few years later, there was the ozone hole problem. But it wasn't a big deal because everyone was pitching in and after enough years we "won" that one. Then, years later, I heard of global warming. This time, there wasn't a simple solution like the Freon ozone hole problem. It is truly the best illustration of the tragedy of the commons. Nobody wants to do the hard and painful things we would have to do to save our grandkids' and kids' world. We can't force those who don't want to help to help. The best hope I feel I can have is that the bacteria, jellyfish, and algea, thrive enough to keep life going in some form or other until the sun starts to die. Because I can't but help be sentimental about life existing, even if only in the shape of extremophile bacteria. To have gone from hoping for sci-fi futures as a kid where humanity has not only survived but thrived as enlightened and compassionate, to hoping there will at least be some extremophiles left once our fuckups have had their final effects, is pretty damn depressing.
I know that feel man... I'm currently a studying engineer. While not really a communist, I can't deny being left-leaning. For an assessment recently I was asked with a group to come up with a household water filtration system to be fielded in a group of villages in a developing country. The filters were meant to serve as a backup for the somewhat unreliable taps that normally supply these villages. I came up with a small, portable filter that was quite effective, but was somewhat expensive, and would require plastic bucket imports into the country, which would make it both more expensive, and less environmentally sustainable. My solution to this was not to change the design, but to change how it was deployed. Rather than relying on making some thousand of these little buckets, I suggested the idea to instead supply them at a communal level, kept inside communally-maintained storehouses across the village. In the event the water supplies broke, the smaller number of buckets would be distributed across the affected houses, used until the taps were fixed, and then returned to their storehouses for repair and refurbishment. The lecturers promptly told me that the villagers would never accept such a thing, and that we should try and solve the environmental and cost problems in such a way that still produced a product that could be sold to every house in the village. I could understand the argument, but couldn't help but feel that by treating such ideas as hard rules we were missing out on a more efficient, cheaper, and environmentally sustainable way of solving the same problem...
@@Namelessthe3rd That sounds really frustrating. There is so much focus on materials, but the solution you came up with is genuinely more sustainable exactly because of the communal nature of it. But you can change materials without changing anything about how things are done, without social innovation, and I suppose that's why people find it an easier thing to argue for... It's like how plastic is a useful material for food storage but is heavily overused today because of capitalist distribution and instead of looking at that distribution and daring to think of how else we might distribute food, plastic itself gets seen as the issue, with no consideration for the context of its overuse.
I've spent the last couple years at a law school with a healthy flock of fedsocs, and I've met the people I'll have to associate with to pay off my loans, so maybe I'm particularity pessimistic on this issue. Some people you shouldn't bother convincing. They're completely disconnected from reality and can't be convinced by reason. Just let them go.
Speaking as someone who deeply hates a lot of the Degrowth movement*, one of my key reasons for disliking it is because the things they expect us to collectively chuck are things that a lot of people like and want to keep just because they're not fond of it and they're fine with it, or believe that certain replacements they propose "should" be adequate for it when it's really not. Like, quick question. how would we produce high quality collector action figures in a post capitalist ecofriendly world? How would we produce amusement parks? Or really elaborate Halloween decorations, like the kind you'd get at Spirit Halloween? Like, that's not a rhetorical question, those are things I legit want answers to, because the world would be poorer without those options; but they'd need a lot of adjustment to actually work in that world and still function adequately, that a lot of solutions from hippie-type degrowthers are not yet up to snuff on. I still remember this one tweet that said "Sorry bucko, you'll just have to give up your anime titty figures so we can have a livable planet." And it still pisses me off. Both because A) It assumes those are mutually exclusive and B) It presumes that it's okay if certain elements of leisure and culture die because one's not personally fond of it, and it's "trash" and thusly "disposable" Honestly, I'd say that a diversity of approaches will be needed, but one of the big things is gonna be the issue of how we make substitutes for what we need to discard that actually function. There's already approaches I can think of that'd help us keep nice things with less of a footprint, like smart devices that're actually repairable & upgradeable part-by-part instead of bullshit black boxes you have to keep replacing; or the "low tech" internet that seems to be really promising as opposed to ISP hell, or hell even a massive expansion of recycling so it's actually functional and not a depressing joke! We need good replacements for what is unsustainable, not to chide people for not wanting what they enjoy to be destroyed! Just because things value lies in their use doesn't mean that some things hold different utility for others or that the things people denigrate as manufactured needs and culturally disposable "trash" is a worthless just because you don't like it! *Tho, I will say we need to re-conceptualize the idea of "growth" rather than eliminate it, because it means a lot of things and the GDP as a measure is wildly horseshit.
I really like Naomi Klein’s take on this in “This Changes Everything”, which basically argues that the silver lining of climate changes is it’s making the insufferable conditions of capitalism *literally unlivable*, which helps force unity and change. No matter what, we won’t be living like this in fifty years. My only concern is some of the old hierarchies will outlive the End of the World.
It's kind of like the thing with automation and wage labor, plus growing populations, where there literally can't be enough jobs to pair everyone off with one. Not just that you might think it's a bad idea to structure society in such a manner or not, but it will physically impossible. And probably already is, but it'll get worse. Which calls into question the entire system in which your ability to work is directly measured as your only metric for whether your children deserve to starve or not. At some point, and not too far off, society Will shift to address that. That's not to say it's guaranteed to be a shift will enjoy, but it's possible. Credit to Nier:Automata: "This cannot continue."
I adore how the Arsonist’s argument about how “new” people don’t need to respect or take care of the land subtly (and at points, very overtly) reveals how American imperialists disrespected Native lands with unclean energy, landfills, and etc. Especially with when he says that immigrants might drop a cigarette and then asks you for a match for his own cigarette.
Yep, the major problem with the puritans and evangelicals who took over america aren't indigenous to it. So they really don't care about the land. That's why you see all these malls, and huge buildings and so little parks. They just don't care about the land.
Well the "do you have a match/light" thing is now a certified PhilosophyTube tradition whenever the Arsonist appears! It symbolizes the fact that fascism is like, right there ready to go, ready to be set ablaze, but it does need *other* people, especially libs, to give it the match and pull the final string. Don't give him the match, goddammit!
Quote from an indigenous leader from Kenya talking about extinction rebellion: “Those who know the consequences of climate destruction feel it very personally, even though the consequences are for everyone. When our land is being taken from us and destroyed we feel it very personally, even if in protecting our lands we are protecting it not only for ourselves but for everybody. “What is the motivation of people in Extinction Rebellion? You are fighting for something that matters hugely to you personally, but you are doing it both for yourself and others. You know that if you don’t act you will bear the consequences. You know that we will all bear the consequences. You don’t have a choice. What you guys are doing is fighting for us all for our tomorrow. " I’ve heard similar things from people resisting Bolsonaro in Brazil, that privileged people in the west need to use that privilege to make their governments change course, since their governments are the greatest emitters (per person at least). I think a lot of leftists would be surprised be how much they agree with the average member of extinction rebellion, especially when it comes to the need to move beyond capitalism as a system. It isn’t a perfect movement obviously, but it is the one that is here now, and the fact that you only mentioned it in this video to criticise it made me very sad.
It's really not just a matter of left or right. It is about what works. What functions. And any idea of reconciling a profit driven non Keynsian economy with the neccessary negative CO2 and methane emmissions has proven to be a total delusion. A delusion that is self-destructive to the core. The destruction of life is not the bug. It is the feature of unregulated capitalism. I personally don't think we have to repeat the failure of USSR type of socialism. In the end the USSR was more rightwing than being actually socialist. Socialism is by definition _more_ democracy, _not_ less. I think the Democratic Socialism of the likes of *Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's* GREEN NEW DEAL is exactly what could reset hope and dignity for mankind and all life on earth. We call ourselves *Justice Democrats.* Like Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Elizabeth Warren we accept no donations from corporations. A Patreon financed democracy, so to speak is our goal.
@@bobrolander4344 I hugely support all the figures mentioned above and the GND. HOWEVER the point is not to not have a GND. The point is what happens after. The problems in our ecology are more than just climate change. We operate in a hyper consumerist society predicated on resource extraction and results in huge wastage. Any broader ecological project has to deal with capitalism to address it. If you are interested, read a bit about Murray Bookchin and Social Ecology. Full disclosure: Bookchin was a Marxist-Leninist who later abandoned it for Anarchism then grew critical of it and developed Democratic Confedralism (see Rojava) and Social Ecology.
Climate Grief has been one of my main sources of suicidal issues and I have been struggling so much to deal with it, this is helping a bit. Thanks Olly, stay grounded Cosmonauts
I try to stay optimistic. I want to prevent it from coming to the worst, but even if it does, I hope we can still somehow stay alive. I try to care for my garden and make the best out of it. We have to use tap water for watering right now because Germany has had a drought last year and this year it's also quite dry. The commercial farmers have been and will again be experiencing heavy harvest losses. I still cling to my tiny patch of land and do my best with it. MULCH, MULCH, MULCH, that's my motto. And I need to be more careful to plant every little plant into its own little hole so that the water can be applied more directly. Just have eaten a part of a zucchini I harvested. Potatoes, onions, carrots and beetroot are also there, as well as green beans, tomatoes, cucumbers, raspberries and even melons. We have created a little animal paradise in our community garden. Yesterday I saw a hedgehog drinking some water that had gathered in a flower pot palette. The garden also provides habitat for several insect and bird species that have become rare in the countryside. Do I still frequently have anxiety attacks regarding the future? Of course! I'm afraid of dying horribly of hunger when I'm an old lady, because food will have become so expensive due to a decline in agricultural productivity because of climate change. I have no partner and no children and only very few friends. I'm also chronically ill. The climate catastrophe is a huge fear of mine!
Let me help very sincerely - climate *catastrophe* is extremely unlikely to happen. The focus on it is to spur action and it’s working. Climate *inconvenience* is more like what we’ll get. We are moving away from carbon. Ideally we’d do it a lot faster but it will happen. Biotech and automation is improving. There are plenty of higher chance disastrous things that will likely happen in the next 50 years like economic crises and wars but hopefully better than the last 50 years.
On monday we had a night in the middle of the day in São Paulo because of criminal forest fires in the Amazon forest. It's the perfect timing. Great video.
@@kathybramley5609 - I think it's because after finally understanding the point of the Arsonist character at the end of his arc in the Bannon video it's a lot easier to digest and understand what the character is meant to highlight in this one. We know what's coming, we know he's gonna take out the cigarette and ask for a match, and we know that it's a critique of the way the rich complain about the poor "arsonists" while actually being the arsonist themselves. But, I am a bit worried that the arsonist character in this video really only makes sense to those of us who were introduced to him in the Bannon one. I think a lot of this video really only makes sense if it isn't your first intro to PhilosophyTube TBH.
spent half of my therapy session today talking about how climate change has been affecting my depression. felt inclined to send this to my therapist. thanks, olly.
"Do you have a match?" The pause after which it is said and the enunciation of the sounds. I loveeeee how theatrical your stuff is! I adore how you can literally see how much thought and passion goes behind every single decision made for a video. Props to you and the team❤❤❤
I like how people that are betting on a 'green Manhattan Project' do not understand what the Manhattan Project was. They knew roughly what sort of device that they needed to build, and the science behind it was sound and offered them guideposts. The science wasn't discovered mid-project. They also weren't tasked with the logistical demands that a green project would have to fulfill after the design was finished. One thing that worries me - and is being slept on a bit - is that we don't have to wait 100 years for a global disaster as a result of warming. That is the global climate disaster, but along the way there will be ample possibilities for a global political disaster caused by climate change. This is not a time bomb that's going to blow up 100 years from now, but is instead a gradual fire consuming the planet that houses us. It won't be uniform, and along the way there will be localized crises. The thing about that is that when we look back at history, we find many examples of climate setting loose wars and rebellions; the effects of some of which are still reverberating to this day(like the French Revolution and the Dark Ages). Now, it's not that every disaster is going to have dire consequences of that sort, but every time one of these disasters hits - be it famine, hurricane, or some other crisis - we put a bet on the table and spin the wheel; some bets small and some big. Some of these bets will be swept from the table if our number doesn't come up, but some will stay there waiting for the next spin. We have an analogue for something of this sort with Syria. A mass exodus of people seeking refuge has emboldened the far right across the globe. We could see events of this sort as time goes on: again, and again, and again. This recursion will be occurring in the lead up to the climate tipping point. Within this we have several nuclear powers that like to play out chess games in flash points around the world. During the Cold War there was always the risk, albeit small, that the involvement of those foreign adversaries could escalate into a nuclear exchange. Ultimately, what drove the involvement of these governments were political agendas. What wasn't hovering over most of these conflicts were threats of scarcity. This isn't a singular disaster that we're on course for. The probability of a major disaster will increase as time goes on. We cannot afford any half-measures. Achieving "market based solutions" shouldn't be of primary concern. We know that the major polluters are actively sabotaging or watering down the remedies that we attempt. At what point do we act?
Indeed, how we as humans react to the effects that unfold may very well be more detrimental than the effects themselves. The book Climate Wars by Gwynne Dyer took a look at some of the most dangerous political and conflict scenarios that are linked to AGW related problems. If India and Pakistan do not resolve how to deal with reduced glacial water melt feeding their shared watersheds in the Kashmir conflict region, Pakistan's desperation for water and a resulting regional nuclear conflict has capability to cause failed or significantly reduced agriculture seasons for the rest of us across the world.
There are few things more satisfying than a creative endeavour with purpose...and high production value. I think you may be one of the objectively best creators on this website.
“There was a wide open country, fresh for discovery, not a soul living there, and they build a great big civilization on top of it.” Eesh. It’s as a funny a joke as it is scathing.
I think it's like this - on their own, all these issues (immigration, police brutality, ocean warming, etc) seem insurmountable. You're forced to pick and choose your battles, because you can't deal with them all at the same time. *However*, by thinking of them as all being facets of the same problem (climate change), it suddenly becomes easier to conceptualize how to fight it. It doesn't matter where you choose to focus your energy, because you're still fighting the bigger problem. And so is everyone else.
Well, we're all going to go Mad Max, but the point of those films is you can save something good and create something new and better, even in the apocalypse. And it's nice to know that just because everyone's crazy doesn't mean there isn't good reason or your crazy can't fit with a fairly large group of other crazies.
@@paiganism To use a terrible hentai meme, my response to a revolutionary catgirl army would be "Your revolutionary praxis only makes my 'baseball bat' harder."
I watched this video several months ago. I was very concerned about the environment and also billionaires amassing fortunes while others suffered. This is what FINALLY convinced me that they were one problem, and that Capitalism was bad. Back then, I didn't go much further than that, but this video is what finally woke me up.
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is it bad that i like Last week tonight?
@@christinedaae3990 If you find the show entertaining, do you. Just do so realizing John Oliver's job is to be a Capitalist sanctioned pressure release valve.
@@christinedaae3990 to be honest, I think it's fine. While LWT isn't really leftist, I feel like it's kind of a good gateway for new people. I dont think I would have been as open to watching long form video essays about depressing topics if LWT didnt give me a taste for them.
Last week tonight is really good though
Reminds me of the indigenous tribe in Brasil who, when asked about why they wanted to protect "the nature" so much, they awnsered:
"We are not protecting 'the nature'. We are the nature. We are protecting ourselves".
Annia Zzacchi exactly!! They know that they are a part of nature - an integral one because they are the best known conservationists of their land.
@Nellie Rutten aww that's cute! Your brain is just dried out play-doh and broken glass.
Its comments like yours that make me wish RUclips had a "retweet" like button.
if you're interested in indigenous people's fights for their rights i would check out the documentary "Invasion" made my rhe Wet'suwet'en people of the Unist'ot'en camp in Canada. It's very interesting and troubling and it's still currently unfolding
@Nellie Rutten Why? You're saying that as if everyone's like that. Or perhaps that that is the sole issue for determining the value of supporting this particular cause.
I generally believe it is better to be hypocritical and in support of a 'good' cause than to be against it. But then I'd assume it's easier to convince the former of the necessity for actual change. Even if you disagree with me, that doesn't make said cause less worthwhile. It could simply mean we need to try even harder.
"The earth isn't dying, it is being killed. And the people who are killing it have names and addresses." - Utah Phillips
Isn’t that a Sam Hyde quote lol
Austolfo Boo32 it looks like Sam stole/was misattributed the quote
Utah is one of my heroes....
Bud Brigham lives 5 min by car from my house
I am literally down to start the mob revolution RIGHT now. I just need a mob to join.
"The planet's not dying, it's being killed, and those killing it have names and addresses"
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*The Guillotine by The Coup begins to play*
I am proud to deliver this comment's 93rd upvote.
this impotent hope that the men responsible for the death of our species will "get what they deserve" is even more pathetic than the millions of people who think we're going to "fix" climate change. but if upvoting these comments makes you happy, may as well. not like anything else you do matters, may as well feel good.
I would love to see them guillotined in Minecraft.
The Arsonist might be the best and most terrifying character on this God forsaken platform.
If he only was a character...
Plottwist: He is actually olivers evil twin. Who studied economics and writes the scripts for Pewdiepie
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Dude. You’re totally right. It’s so unnerving to see someone as kind and thoughtful as Olly play such a chilling character. After watching the fascism video, I’ve put off this one because there’s something about the arsonist that just makes me viscerally uncomfortable.
What arsonist? Do you mean the traveling salesman? It’s a fine state when simply discussing some wildfires draws cries of “arson!”
Calm yourselves my Caucasian(TM) friends. He simply wants to share his important ideas about race and society. God, these snowflake leftists are so sensitive they could hear a dog whistle.
"Wide open country, fresh for discovery, not a soul living there."
It disturbs me how something so obviously incorrect and wrong smacks so strongly of current rhetoric. *shudders*
You won't believe the nonsense lines these people use for their historical narrative myths. I expect you'll hear the refrain, "Not stolen, but conquered!" a lot very soon. Yes, really. Because the are such knobs they don't realize that this is a distinction without a difference.
It reminded me of that old pro-Israel slogan, which many people still believe: “A land without a people, for a people without a land.”
Ugh. It annoys me to no fucking end.
My people have been on the plains for roughly 700 or 800 years, and had many many sights like the one in Standing Rock.
But because of Manifest Destiny, and the idea that the are was EMPTY, we had to be forced into submission. My Tribe never surrendered. We were massacred into giving up arms, and living on a Reservation.
It's true. In that regard. That we are living in a Post Apocalyptic, authoritarian world that looks down upon us, and spits upon what we consider sacred.
But oh nooooo... A church caught fire! Save it! Save it! (I will say. I do feel bad about the Notre Dame. NO ONE SHOULD EVER HAVE ANY, ANY OF THEIR SPIRITUAL SITES DESTROYED)
@@ScorpionViper1001 "Not larceny, but robbery!" said the thief's attorney. The judge was unimpressed.
Foxrider Scorpion Well, as someone who used to argue your position, there is a difference, but can’t help feeling the difference doesn’t make it any better.
The difference is that stolen is between people within a society, and conquered is stolen between people of separate societies.
I still think conquered is bad, but it’s hard to judge someone by morals that only exist within a society.
So there is a distinction that makes a small difference, but not a significant one.
Damn. Can't believe David Attenborough narrated Olly's vid. That is HUGE for Attenborough. Good for him.
I think that Attenborough guy is gonna be a big name one day! ;)
I'm disappointed that he's cast Burton era Johnny Depp for this priest character though.
It is SIR Attenborough to you, you imperious cretin
@Kapten Krok Seriöst vad är du 5
@Kapten Krok kan ju åtminstone vara konsekvent i vilket språk du talar 5 åring.
"The hopeless don't revolt, because revolution is an act of hope." - Peter Kropotkin
Don't be sad, get mad!
@@tf7602 'I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO DO WITH THESE?'
@@jophielswings screw lemonade, too much sugar anyways, plant trees, harvest lemons, THROW THEM!!!! HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM LEMONS NOW?!?!
better little red book than bread book
Good point
there's something about "the arsonist" that just hits me so hard. He has all the appearance of a calm, collected, polite gentleman. He presents himself as utterly rational, he's handsome, charismatic, and he makes the effort to sound reasonable. All of which serves to make his comments such as "There was a wide open country... not a soul living there, and they built a great big civilization... isnt that admirable?" and "If you're tired, poor, hungry, wretched, then please feel free to apply through the proper channels." even more unsettling because theyre hidden behind this facade of civility.
The tired, poor, wretched and hungry were the ones who built the great big civilization in the "empty land"
as someone with a chronic illness who requires very specific medication to function and ultimately stay alive, and will not survive should society collapse, I have come to feel that climate grief is the same as grieving for my own life. to see the sky go dark in my city because of the smoke of the amazon fires felt very much like watching my own life being threatened, and it was surreal and horrifying. the past few days have been an emotional rollercoaster, and then this video drops and wow this ride just keeps on going huh??
i guess what i'm trying to say is, i'll just press F for myself while we still have functioning keyboards and godspeed to all you faithful gamers :)
Are you from Sao Paulo? If so what was it like to see the sky go black like that? How did you feel?
@@rnorthey4008 Yes I am, and it was freaking horrifying to see the sky go dark like that. I mean, it was like the sky was about to come down since the clouds looked much closer than any storm I've ever seen. And then I found out why and I saw the satelite images from the Amazon and wow that did feel like the actual end of the world.
Marina Liz same, dude. A couple years ago when the county below mine was on fire (I live in California), I started panicking wondering how I’d get my thyroid medication if the highway was on fire and trucks couldn’t come through. Then I started panicking about climate change. It’s been a looming concern in my mind since I was seven years old, and it’s absolutely terrifying. I hope the planet is at least marginally alright when I’m older (if I get to be older).
@@horseenthusiast9903 Take a group of conscious mind individual to help.
Godspeed comrade
The biggest evidence that the climate crisis is real is that Ollie keeps getting hotter and hotter
Our world is getting hotter. We need to put ice on him.
Like a wet T-shirt contest? With Oliver and markiplier and others that are causing a climate crisis with their looks?
Ollie and Contra are just too hot for planet earth.
Heck. I can’t believe this was written before the Amazonia fires. Unsettlingly prophetic.
Oliver is intune with what's going on... by reading a lot.
@@MissHeathen "As the world fell, each one of us was, in their own way...broken. It was hard to know who was more crazy: me...or everyone else." - Mad Max, Fury Road
Kind of. The fires have been going on for 3 weeks straight.
At this point you can probably say "another place is going to burn because some old white guy wants money" and you'll be pretty spot on in a few days.
It's not prophetic. Amazonia fires didn't start yesterday. It's just you noticed this now
The part at 15:34 is so chilling, perfect way of showing how dogwhistles work so sneakily. Having him pause for his cigarette to cut out the word "white" was a great artistic decision that made it clear but not too clear as dogwhistles are meant to be.
holy shit I didn't notice that. Spectacular.
"Misusing my camera equipment to take high quality nudes"
So um... what patreon tier is that?
god tier
Ahem... 🙋🏾♀️ I would also like to know this. I think I can blow a cool half of my paycheck for that tier.
Trotsky tier
[Arched Eyebrows]
So don't want to be objectiving anybody buuuuuuuut ....
......is it at all possible to get in on this? 😉😏
@@nelsonth *ice axe intensifies*
I'm so so glad you talked about the Indigenous part of this conversation. Not enough people consider us when we have been living sustainably for MILLENIA
The problem isn't we got seven billion people. Problem is we got seven billion people and they all want washing machines the solution the people who already got washing machines is not to make washing machines not harmful to the planet, but to tell the people without washing machines, "Fuck you, filthy s*vage, I got mine!"
Yes. Especially about what happened at Standing Rock. Even without stopping the pipeline, it was a major breakthrough in that the political left and the spiritual left have finally found back to each other. It seems like not only the Beatles broke up 50 years ago, but the whole movements of change were infiltrated by people who gaslighted us all towards fracturing ourselves into tiny tribes again.
@@ScorpionViper1001 the solution from the people who already got washing machines
Well written, Mr. Ollie. Greetings from the Kiowa tribe and thank you for including those of us that are typically forgotten.
@Kapten Krok wtf is wrong with you ?
@@Nirghaal whatd he say
If it isn't your home and you're not from here, originally. Why would you take care of it?
All colonialists throughout history summarized.
@casual complaints Like the British... who did it the worst
@casual complaints haha let's hear it, ottoman empire at least improved the cities when they were, Britain wrecked countries short terms and long term. Ottom empire at least allowed a country to thrive by not sending capital and product made back to their country of origin like Britain did.
@casual complaints are you saying because British colonies still exist, this means that British colonialism was greater?
Funnily enough, the same logic can be applied to the Earth, as in, we are all children of the Earth.
@casual complaints Yes very really,
I'm grieving about climate change because I'm so powerless against the actions of giant corporations and countries. I can only do so much.
you're not on your own.
and environmentalists are now the terrorists....because we protested the XL pipeline.....
I just want to die at this point
Not only that, but people surrounding me are just oblivious to the matter or prefere to ignore it, so loneliness comes along.
You’re not alone bro
"There was a wide open country, not a soul living there."
The travelling salesman is truly the best character.
@casual complaints What on earth are you on about
@casual complaints Yeah, I really don't. I'm not entirely sure you do either.
@casual complaints Politics is everyone's place. You can't just say incorrect and nonsensical things, and then wonder why people have questions.
@casual complaints You're really going to tell me that after saying a racist lie about native americans? I'm not the one who needs to 'find out the bigger realities'. After all, I'm not such a twat that I feel the need the need to use a cringey 'meme' format to belittle and create fear around an already oppressed group. You're just a bitter, petty person.
@casual complaints this is a powerful troll
So.. what were your favorite parts about living in a society?
It turns out I really miss libraries, museums, and reading in cafés with other people around. Also petting other people's dogs.
@Kerry-Anne Middlemore Hey there. You alright?
Browsing in comics stores, live music, and visiting my grandmother.
What a Nerd, the correct answer is Videogames and gummy worms.
@Kerry-Anne Middlemore people in cafés aren't your family, they're dogs.
I think I got my script wrong.
Sounds kinda socialist - 😡
THE WINK WHEN SHE SAID TRANS PEOPLE NEED FLANNEL SHIRTS AND SYNTH MUSIC WHEN WE KNOW THESE ARE THINGS SHE LIKES
And the left at London song at the end....... Abigail....
The past few days I've been going back to try and figure out just how long she's been laying the framework for us, the cheeky lass
AND THE LITTLE SMIRK JUST AFTER THAT COMMENT
@@narnigrin biggest easter egg hunt right now
OH MY GOD I HEAVY BREATHED ALL THE WAY LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT AFTER PAUSING THE VIDEO, YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I love the arsonist character, not in that kind of way, I love that you make him extremely likable and well dressed etc, it is the perfect portrayal of how fascists work and how people so easily fall victim to their rhetoric and ideas. Everyone wants to think of fascists as they do skinheads and not intelligent well educated, well spoken CEO and at face value friendly types.
he's like all the old fashioned brains I know
This is why I hate the idea of respectability politics so much. Even the most trashy (read: nonconforming and brash) leftist will be better than a well presenting fascist.
casual complaints what defines as respect? Our old president José Mujica lived in a shack in the outskirts of town and always dressed very casually, donated all his money to the poor. Is that presenting one with respect? Is there different kinds of respect?
I agree. I also like how he disguises his assertions and desires as mere musings as though he is in denial of what he is for the time being (and just waiting for a match).
KillZacular He’s like the character from “Mario and The Magician” by T. Mann
One more thing compadres, there are some excellent references here as books. But if you choose to buy them, get them from your local book store or library and not Amazon.
Or buy ebooks of them
in the states, Amazon owns Barnes and noble which has become a monopoly on the book selling business. at least in the bay area, those stores are more prevalent
@@Emosoragurl21 Used book stores are kind of a Thing right now and usually they'll carry new books as well and be able to order in books on request.
buying books from bookstores is nicer anyways. although couldn't find paradise los in about 9 different ones
@@Emosoragurl21 Amazon does not own Barnes and Noble anywhere and they never have.
I want to explain, that yes. As a Lakota woman. I am. Living in a Post Apocalyptic world.
My peoples language, spiritual beliefs, philosphies, sexual identity and even our sciences. Were nearly snuffed out, and are today. Tightly controlled, and mocked.
We live today, in what we see as an empty world. There is no real connection to our enviroment, ourselves or acceptance that each and every person are truly, fundamentally different.
But...
We are. Willing. Damned willing. To make things work, and now that we have technology (as detrimental as it is) to communicate with not only other indigenous peoples around the world, but also directly to people in power and broadcast our voices as far as we can.
We hope to become leaders in environmental change.
It's not that we want to go right back to our old life styles, it's that we want that choice, to live a life that has a resemblance to it. To be free to live the way we want to. And without harassment or ridicule. Just to be free and happy.
Just with things like soda, tacos, tea, anime and cats.
Lots and lots of cats
In the Arthurian mythology there is a direct connection between Arthur, the king, and the land. We have to “rediscover “ the land and the people are one. Our environment shapes us as much (and probably more) as we shape our environment.
Sexual identity and science? Please explain when you have been mocked for this if you want to.
@@Jostein1945 I'm a white anthropologist. Many indigenous peoples' both in the Americas' and elsewhere often recognise radically different gender/sexual identities than those found in European cultures; Two-spirited, Muxe, Fa'afafine, Māhū, being examples. People who hold these identities have been subjected to violent 'Westernisation', under colonialist/settler regimes that sought to destroy them for not conforming to the peculiarly European notions of gender/sex and sexuality.
I don’t mean to be insensitive, but I don’t really know how to phrase this. First, it sounds like you just want to have your cake and eat it too. Second, cats are ecological disasters. They definitely change the environment... just not in a good way.
Faked Moon Landings I don’t see it as having ones cake and eating it. It sounds like she just wants a revitalization of her culture adapted for the modern age. But your right about cats, of course, they pale in comparison to the true Bain of the Americas...
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"Do you have a match" has turned into one of those things that immediately makes me feel nauseous at this point
Ikr. Like, what kind of fucking bougie prick lights smokes with a match?
A guy that doesn’t want to inhale chems smoking a stoogie sorry
/s 😅😅
Me too. Taken out of its metaphor, it's him saying, "Are you ready to be complicit in my crimes?"
Every time I hear "do *you* have a match?" I go absolutely rabidly feral, it's so poignant and direct
I find it annoying that you have a better graph about the correlation between heat and horniness than prageru has about anything
LOL
GOSH THROWBACK TO THAT ONE THAT WAS "ARTISTIC STANDARDS VS TIME" AND IT HIT ZERO AT THE MOMENT IT ALL "BECAME ABOUT PERSONAL EXPRESSION"
LIKE
like
... i want off this ride
😏😄
...and PragerU is an "educational" non-profit. Donations are tax deductable, and they don't pay taxes. :(
Ngl that graph applies to me
You know it's gonna be a good one when The Arsonist is on the thumbnail. Hype
Oooooh shit, the Arsonist's bit was as terrifyingly creepy as expected. Olly, you play a really good fascist.
Wait. Hold on.
@@screwsinabell I loved to play that part back in 8th grade... and I'm so jealous that Olly is SOOO much better at it than I could ever hope to be... but I fucking love him playing the arsonist nonetheless. let's start a club of arsonist-lovers! :P Have a nice evening.
Clickbait!
BUT THEY'RE ALL SO GOOD
You know it’s a good one when Olly’s in the thumbnail
“I really don’t think we need a scientist. I think we need a priest” is probably one of the best quotes ever
Fuckin hell full circle this has gone
I think we need a philosopher, an activist.
We do need marxist scientists. AKA Philosophers.
I'm still not certain how molesting children will improve the situation...
@@Commanderziff Ppfffhaha, my thought exactly.
"what was your favorite bit about living in a society?"
y'know, that brought me to tears the first time i heard it, and it did again now. damn. this just got unbearably real
That part hit my hard too. It really highlights the idea that society as we know it will be gone one day, just like that
@@hareema4442 don't be afraid. capitalism will go. and we'll build a new society. Better, stronger and closer. Just do what you can to minimaze the damage.
We don't need societies
I studied to be a climate scientist and this is the first video about the topic that I feel has captured the scale of everything. Thank you for your skillful handing of the conversation. I love your work
Global warming is a hoax
Grape Jam no
@@silas1363 yes, the UN totally hoaxed this thing, they did everything to manipulate the data and make it look like global warming is a real thing
Grape Jam Hi there, you can access the raw satellite data and images yourself by using USGS Earth Explorer and selecting the images from LANDSAT. I look forward to your research paper, please link it here when you’ve successfully relocated our missing ice shelves.
Julie McDowell yes
We lived in a society.
We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture
"A lot of trans people might find it difficult to survive in the post-apocalyptic wasteland without a steady supply of synthesizer music and flannel shirts." As a certified Tran I can confirm
I'm sure that's unrelated though!
@@madscientistshusta well maybe that if society was not f*cking around with us so bad, we wouldn't be tempted to take away our lives. But rest assured my will to struggle is strong. Besides, statistic applied to "mental illnesses" do not really mean a lot, as there are a plethora of mental illnesses. But I'm sure someone as instructed as you could be a little bit more specific.
@@madscientistshusta Go fuck yourself
That must be a female to male thing. Ive never own flannel and I don't listen to techno.
@@madscientistshusta
We know how to live in the shit. You sis pansies would not know what a struggle is so if it hit you in the face. You won't make a week without star bucks.
The arsonist causually quoting the fourteen words makes him exponentially scarier
I'm sorry, but what are these 14 words? It's the second time I'm watching this video and I've noticed nothing.
@@LucasDeziderio somewhere in one of his segments the arsonist starts quoting the fourteen words: "we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" only leaving out the "white" this is a common neo-nazi and alt-right slogan.
@@rowgesage936 Oh yeah. I found it creepy but didn't know it was a whole thing. Thanks for explaining.
Yeah. I am basically rewatching this for like a fifth time and I just picked that up.
15:32 Yeah, here it is for anyone wondering, he even pauses for a split-second where "white" would go.
Did you hear that ICE updated their mission statement?
... they got it down to 14 words.
Their new logo will be the double sigrun
@Kapten Krok i'm really glad you would do something so nice for Radical Reviewer's mom! that's very thoughtful and polite!
@Kapten Krok the type of loser to keep using the same lame troll all over the content section. If you're not a pre-teen, Kap'n, you should probably stop acting like one.
BARS.
Imagine a world where they burned the Amazon so badly in one day that the literal corpses of cremated trees floated to the other side of the subcontinent, covering its most populous city, blotting out the sun, bringing darkness at noon.
Sounds dramatic, right? But it's not hyperbole. It's literally what happened here in São Paulo, Brazil, 19th August 2019. Search for the photos and videos yourselves.
We saw it. At least all those who watched TYT instead of CNN. Was hard to watch. I just hope enough brazilian citizins wake up and resist. I also hope we can organize as much boycott against brazilian products as possible. I heard there is some new TTP and NAFTA deal in the making...
Holy fuck I hadn't heard of that. I found Marcus Mendes on twitter after a google search. Those images are dystopic af....it's like it's from Joker's wettest dream
It’s like the death of the Ents.
Tolkien warned us this would happen. 😔
Yep I am here, it was night time at 3 pm, we all expected a huge rain that would like ruin the city or something, but it was just a little bit of rain that lasted for like 10 minutes... the water was black. About possible going against stuff ppl will go to the streets today to show they are not satisfied, but the ability of the government to deny things is impressive. There is only So much we can do, and boycotting doesn't help much but yeah u can do that, knowing what we can do is kinda what can keep us away from existential dread and climate dispare.. grief is good tho
@brocoli the dark sky in Sao Paulo has nothing to do the bolivian fire!! meteorologists from INPE said the couldn’t find a connection betwen those two! stop lying about our country
"I dont think we need a scientist.i think we need a priest."
Stunning.
We need Satan tho
I want to like but its at 69
@@doimoisoiboi5674 you actually need Jesus
@@peri5966 why
I'd start with couple guillotines
In 2009, I started study Meteorology as green liberal, full of optimism
Now, I'm a depressed anti-capitalist
We don't need scientists, we need radical action.
Workers of the world unite !
We need scientists _and_ radical action.
The radical action will just cause more harm without being guided by the science.
What we need is radical action by scientists.
I did some climate change courses in my ecology & evolution master and jesus that was THE MOST DEPRESSING SHIT.
it‘s that. we have the science. we know what’s happening. we know what needs to be done. but capital is keeping us back.
but yes, we also need scientists, because if we are ever to live through a revolution, we will be needed. god, it‘s depressing.
One of my favorite things about these videos is how each book or paper referenced is shown on screen and listed in a bibliography in the video description. It's a nice touch that not many other creators do.
I just wanted to voice my appreciation for that extra effort.
I second this comment. Everytime I see the reference displayed, I smile. It's a fairly simple, common sense edit, yet it seems to be overlooked all too frequently in many RUclips videos. It truly is appreciated.
Wait, we won't just sell our homes when they flood? You mean, Ben Shapiro lied to me?!?
Some person here on youtube said Ben Shapiro was selling waterfront properties to the people of Innsmouth.
Just wanted to spread this quote.
'To whom? Fucking aquaman?!'
@@justalostlocal That was so hilarious!
Aquaman is sad 😥
@@johannageisel5390 Some person likes the right books and has seriously a good sense of humour :D
God even though I know it's not real, the part w the arsonist actually made me so angry bc I know people that do that slimey talk in real life
Reminded me of the American Psycho Batesman acting as if he sincerely cared about NGO activism by showing off how good he can run down activist talking points.
The worst part is knowing some vids out there and saying this and a bunch of people agree with them
send them this video!
@@aleczitzelberger8123 Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. It's disturbing and uncanny how well they work together.
Stuart Richards maybe my comment was a bit hyperbolic, but those people royally piss me off. Also, the fascists are the ones committing mass murders of innocents, and people like described are legitimizing and egging on those people.
"what are going to do when our homes flood?" well according to Ben Shapiro you can "sell" and move somewhere else...we'll talk about who you can sell to when it comes up, I suppose
" *sell their houses to who, ben?! FUCKING AQUAMAN??* "
Pilar M. A.
**claps**
@@pilarm.a.5976 Honestly, it wouldn't be surprising if that's what Ben was thinking.
you re-tards keep cycling that same quote cuz you got nothing else
@@acceptable1514 nothing else to mock Ben Shapiro with? Have you been asleep for the last year and a half?
"A lot of trans people might find it tough to survive in the post-apocalyptic wasteland without a steady supply of synthesizer music and flannel shirts"
Why must you attack me like this
HWHAProb I’m more worried about getting my hands dirty just to survive 😭😭😭 please let the blast get me
@@lotusauer4785 i've been toying with the idea of making a crop circle that is a target that says "Nuke here first" in the fields in my town.
Jalae Lain Casaus that’s hilarious, we have military aircraft refuel at our airport on occasion and when I lived near the airport and heard them flying low and fast some days I’d just close my eyes and hope to hear a rumble...
Lotus Auer genuinely I’ve dreamt about that on multiple occasions
Lotus Auer I’ve lived my entire life within 20 miles of “strategic military assets” so I always figured if it comes to all out war I and most of my family will be quickly killed. It’s a weird comfort, since I genuinely enjoy life and living.
"Have you heard about these forest fires? It's dreadful, simply dreadful! You know when I was a traveling salesman, I once had the opportunity to visit Napa Valley, woo the upper echelon. Such interesting people, though so different from you and I. Anyway, they say that the fires were caused in part by global warming. You know, I'm as concerned as the next chap about the world at large, but global warming? I'm not so sure I'm convinced."
-The Arsonist Probably
I thought that you had gotten a hold of the script before it aired somehow. Really good impression!
Ivy O'Neal-Odom thanks!
you really called it huh
Eli Dawson It’s like he said in the Steve Bannon video. He gets the first part right and then veers off course.
@@annemcculloh9572 That part made me so angry. He's so real I can feel the flesh of the cheeks of a fictional character hitting my fists. Best video by Holly so far, imho.
Watching the wildfires bit in Australia in early January 2020. 2 million acres burned sounds like wishful thinking right now (we’re currently at about15 million acres burned, and over a billion native animals lost).
So, that climate change, hey?
Climate Change or policy dating back a decade that stopped the clearing of brush which given the drought conditions and arson resulted in Hell on Earth? Problem with Climate Change is that it is often used like our ancestors used the "gods" or "spirits" to explain events. Look at the supposed Amazon Climate Change fires that weren't. They were brush fires started by farmers to clear land of brush and forest. More fires were started in Africa, but they didn't get the attention.
@@silasbishop3055 I can somewhat agree to this.
The bushfires in Australia were mostly caused after a dry season and the dry scrub being ignited by lightning. Of course there never any droughts or lightning before there was an imaginary climate "catastrophe"
@@Blackgeoff1 they are far worse nowadays, and happen more frequently. Earlier they would've started, and then stopped.
Due to climate change they happen more severely.
We're supposed to be going in an ice age, and yet the world's getting hotter.
@@ipadair7345 just to 'yes and' on your point here - and on the points abby makes about colonialism+climate change together- one of the reasons the brush was left there *to* burn is because aboriginal australians have been discriminated against and pushed off the land. Many of the forests that burned were well managed for thousands of years by aboriginal people who understood the need for small, controlled burning in the forest ecosystem. Aboriginal equality and landknowledge is crucial to fighting climate change and preventing it from getting worse- but currently, the same system marginalising them is also currently burning up the world for a quick buck.
Also anyone looking at *australia* and claiming climate change is a myth is both unhinged and deeply calous. Like why even bother when theres a honking great man-made hole in the ozone layer right above it?
Can you please stop putting out masterpieces? It's too hard to have a favourite video of yours if they're all so frustratingly magnificent
seriously
Olly makes a video on climate and suddenly David Koch dies. Coincidence?
Nope. Turn away, coincidences don'treal.
The thought of David Koch burning in hell is probably the single most seductive case for believing in god I've heard in years. Whether that's a statement on the reprehensibility of David Koch or the intellectually bankrupt state of religious apologetics I'll leave up to interpretation.
@@Colddirector If their was video of Koch drowning in the arctic, I would never need porn again
@@Colddirector What about everyone he screwed over tearing him limb from limb Lion King style?
@AmateurThespian That is just hate. Absolutely pathetic as you rather see others you dislike suffer instead of actually improving yourself.
I'm an ecologist that specializes in aquaculture and fisheries. I wish the topic of ecological philosophy, as well as the social issues causing climate disaster was taught to students!!
Also, this is certainly one of the best takes on ecological philosophy I've seen to date, thank you so much for creating this!
Everytime you mention Bolsonaro my Brazilian heart hurts a bit. I'm so so sorry world.
Also, amazing music in the end.
Left at London is such an icon, check her out - plus she’s one of the funniest people on the internet.
Me too, Thiago. Fucking fascist genocidal president.
Hey, message from the future here. We did it. We defeated him. And now we can try to mitigate the damage with a president that is not actively trying to murder us all.
Saturday is a day of protest in Brazil because of the destruction of the Amazon Rainforest, please share
Do you have any resources or articles about this, I'd love to learn more.
Same
Any resources on this?
It doesn't matter. Protests don't matter.
@@ongobongo8333 If your stance is to sit and mope while trying to stop other people from trying then maybe you shouldn't talk in the first place.
I am a professional climate organizer and deal with this topic on the daily. What keeps me going in that work is the very true fact that there is and always will be a resistance movement of people caring about and for each other. I keep a vision clear in my mind of what a true community of vulnerability will look like and find ways to take steps in my daily work to make that a reality. It also helps to focus on what I can control, what I can do right now, and who I am building with. At this point I'm just not interested in thinking about failure. It doesn't serve me or anyone. I'm much more interested in resiliency planning, building community, manifesting a new kind of thriving, and in believing in the people I see working their asses off to do what they can right now.
If you are freaking out and need an outlet, find ways to connect to your local climate orgs and set up a meeting with an organizer. You are not alone and I promise you we are going to make it through this somehow.
"Apocalypse" (ἀποκάλυψις) is a Greek word meaning "revelation", "an unveiling or unfolding of things not previously known and which could not be known apart from the unveiling".
I noticed "Jordan B. Peterson" in your list of patrons.
lmao
God dammit synthesizer music and flannel shirts I feel so called out but it's so true.
I hope you talk about the huge criminal fires that have been on mainly Brazilian rainforest in Amazonas, and the relation with the political situation on there were the Steve Banon's oriented government is favoring legislation that covers farmers and stimulate putting forest down to open up for more farms.
Can't even say that it's foreign fault, Brasil has been controled by landlords since 1500, even with the 1988 Constitution there weren't substantial or political changes.
ガルシアダニエル that’s true, but now with this new “approach” it just feels that they opened the gates of hell!
I think that's unlikely, to my understanding Olly takes a while to write a script, film and edit the video. So I suspect the video already was filmen when the news of the fire hit
Toea probably you’re right. But I just had to register my thoughts anyway...
I hope he talks about the IDENTICAL situation happening in Siberia that no one paid any attention to
"I'm always perfectly lovely to them"at 13:10 is such a subtle little sidestep. Beautifully written, as ever.
can you explain it to me? I think it went over my head
@@poetanderson2495 "Always being perfectly lovely to them" has nothing to do with whether or not you're prejudiced towards a group of people; if someone asked you, "How do you feel about X people?" and you said "Well, I always make sure I'm very polite when dealing with them," you're not actually saying anything about how you feel about the group in question except that you treat them differently.
@D. Robertson ohh I get it now, thanks!
This. Not "I agree with them," not "I sympathize with them," but "I'm not disagreeable with them to their faces".
I feel Jacob Reese-Mogg is the perfect example of this. He treats everyone with a cold politeness that he uses to try and disguise his contempt for everyone and completely lack of empathy
Did she wink when mentioning trans people at 25:30? That is the subtlest thing I've noticed in any video ever and it's genius.
I stg that wink is apart of the channel lore now
Thank you for talking about what we're struggling with here in Brazil, Oliver. The destruction happening to our forests won't only affect our indigenous communities and society in general, but the whole world.
Perfect timing, the “president” of Brazil just said “It’s enough to poop every other day” when asked about climate change. Now we have the Amazon fire and people are starting to awake about preserving nature
Would be a real shame if that fire sorta happened to spread to, say, his office...
@@darkmelancholy oh boy plz don't give me idea, I am basically a teen who is existentially exhausted due to being desperate about this fucking government
@pjd412 I'm brazilian, it's pretty bad. But among the high middle classes yet he has some popularity.
Oh man, it's almost like this guy should be an actor or something.
He is an actor, indeed. He talks about that in his video about sex work
@@EdoLS_ r/whooosh
@@nedlightowlers5168 r/ihavereddit
@conan263 stfu boomer
@casual complaints he responded with ad hominem, and so did i.
This is some of the very best work I've seen from a channel which is consistently excellent.
I love the character of The Arsonist and how he's included here in particular. He encapsulates a lot of the qualities of the modern day villains who do the most actual damage - carefully, consciously concealing his ruthless destructiveness under a smokescreen of civility and privilege, *knowing* that many of his victims are fully aware it's a charade, and knowing also that they can't effectively call him out on it because of the real power of that same privilege.
Linking the political and the ecological back together is a perspective I hadn't contemplated before. Trying to talk about all the different issues separately feels really overwhelming, even if all I do is talk to people I know both offline and on the web. If the scientific, political and moral problems are different facets of one big problem, in a way it's sort of emotionally easier to get one's arms around.
@casual complaints hey, it's you again!
Well said, Crystal! Environmentalists who aren't politically aware or progressive can also fall prey to all sorts of misanthropic beliefs. Internalizing capitalism to such an extent that they believe mankind can only be a parasite upon the earth, thinking that human beings are inherently individualistic and selfish, and so on. I think the biggest challenge in dealing with climate change is the re-organization of society, especially convincing people with 'comfortable' lives to act on predictions of the future. This kind of unprecedented change is a massive emotional and intellectual undertaking and it won't be an easy one!
W Baldwin
“Anyone who has to act for a video that we are supposed to take completely serious probably shouldn’t be taken serious.”
I don’t think I agree with you there. In professional philosophy, presenting your arguments in the form of a dialogue or play is pretty common. Olly isn’t just presenting his own arguments in this video, but also the arguments of others (sometimes presenting positions that are antithetical to his own views). In a video essay, it makes more sense to present those different positions through original characters than to sit in front of a bookshelf in a suit saying, “the way a fascist may approach this topic is....” Especially when the content creator is a professional actor, it makes sense to use costume changes and original characters to show when the philosophical framework Olly is using shifts.
I wasn’t expecting to hear about Standing Rock here. I had family out there. It was heartbreaking. I stand with Standing Rock.
Mitakuye Oysain
Now you rarely hear it mentioned, the world forgot about it and the government buried it under the rug, like they do with all their atrocities. I wish i could have been there to stand with them in person..
Ultimately their protest, even if it was successful, would only mean making the pipeline even longer, which means inherently means increasing the odds of leaks. Because there was no way in hell anyone would stop that project from being completed. Least of all a bunch of ill-informed yuppies ironically burning fuel to trek across half the country to protest a fuel company. I don't blame people for wanting to protect sacred land. But I also wouldn't blame them for taking the money. If my descendants ever end up in such a situation, I'd say take the money. Use it to build a school. Physical remains are not what matters. It's ideas that matter. Why should they care about decomposed corpse? What good are my bones doing them? It's also kinda ironic because oil is the result of millions of years of decomposed bio-matter. It seems to me like egos getting in the way of progress. We all end up turning to fuel anyways... Great ideas carry on.
Your protest was stupid. A pipeline is powered by gravity and pumps. If it doesn't go through one then it's on a Diesel electric trains, or a Diesel powered category 10 class truck. A pipeline is the most environmental way of using energy
@@pluckyduck11y Or perhaps the stupid fucking oil company could avoid cutting corners that lead to high likelihoods of leaks in the first place. Even if that oil pipeline was necessary or justified, you know what's not? Cutting corners for profits at the detriment of both consumers and the surrounding communities. This whole meme of people being stomped out in the name of "SOCIAL PROGRESSION" is reminiscent of the history of colonial imperialism on a whole. How many people were stolen from, lied to, or killed in the name of "social progression" and furthermore, can you even fucking call it *social* progression? The results of pushing this kind of """"""S O C I A L"""""" progression looked more like societal regression and exploitation to me. What does the community get out of it besides decades of tainted fucking drinking water and a one time payment of a few greenbacks?
And this whole thing about trying to point out the hypocrisy of activists who traveled there using fuel is a good fucking meme too. Kinda hard to get there using other methods *when there are none.* How do you expect these activists to not use fossil fuel dependent vehicles when that's practically the only form of transportation, and sustainable alternatives are insanely expensive while most people can barely make ends meet. So how could they even afford to buy a brand new expensive electric car, let alone a fucking reliable car in general that isn't some decade old fucking beater?
And while i share your attitude to remains and corpses, i do not condone disrespecting the dead by sticking a fucking pipeline in their burial grounds. And just because you don't see remains and burial grounds as anything special, the native people do. Their ancestors are sacred as are their lands. Too sacred to be tainted by some fucking leaking pipeline.
How can anyone spout this nonsense? Did you even watch the video?
@@thevoiceofthelost You don't think it's just a tad hair-brained conspiratorial to think these Greedy Guses actually WANT to waste money? Everything you're fear-mongering over ends up being a waste of money. You can't have it both ways. If they are greedy, how do you figure they want to waste money? It is their explicit business to waste as little as possible.
Why are you bringing up electric cars? How do you think the electricity they use is charged?
As for tainted water - the government would love nothing more than to fine these companies tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars for that. Again, you're talking about waste. Why would these greedy money-grubbing oil barons WANT to waste oil and be fined on top of that?
Why does David Attenborough sound like he's about to say that the difference between Chad and Non-Chad is literally a few millimeters of bone?
Ohh, THAT'S why that sounded familiar!
Don't forget he went into extensive detail on the definition of 'fertile pussy'.
Don't get it
Der Fdddr contapoints
@@xavierorriss921 But that's not Nat doing the Attenborough voice. It's definitely Ollie.
my god your productions keep getting better, love the direction. I think you and Natalie are creating a new genre regarding philosophy, modern critique, etc...
As a teenager, I want to thank you for this. I'm revisiting this video a year later as California is on fire again and the amount of change that is happening continues to amount to nothing. With the combination of this, and much of what is happening in my country, it is easy to fall into a trap of nothing but grief and anxiety, leading to a path of doing nothing to change it or make a better life. (It is hard to change the world from my position as a teenager in a small town, but still. If you have advice, let me know.) It's important to not fall into that depression and keep in mind that even if I can't change the whole world I can help those around me - if I can change even one life it's enough. (A hard fact to remember, but a true one nonetheless.) This video was very informative, and managed to educate me while reminding me to keep a sense of hope - if not for the world's future (or my distant future) but instead for my ability to make some people happy, and leave at least a small impact on the world. ( I have more thoughts on this video, but I don't know how to word it all, and this comment is already quite long.)
Good luck! You’ll change the world for the better 👍 (btw there’s a wise saying from a Chinese person ”we’re all born to change the world with no other choices. It’s either to make it go a tiny bit better or tiny bit worse)
@@edward4699 Thank you so much!
Three books that have really helped me to deal with Climate Grief:
1. Hot Earth Dreams by Frank Landis. This book is excellent because it takes an educated and extremely long-term view of the probable effects of climate change in a worst-case scenario where humans are still likely to survive. It’s really good to have a realistic idea of what we and our descendants are going to be facing up against after we stop pretending.
2. After the Ice by Stephen Mithen. This is a history of Paleolithic humans, with special attention paid to how our ancestors reacted to climactic changes in their own time. For me it really shone a light on how our ways of life can change radically as conditions change. If there are humans or creatures like humans who will be alive into the deep future they’ll face challenges that are the result of our actions today. But these people won’t just live in our shadow eternally. Their ways of life will the the only ones they know, and they’ll find many things to love about them. In the same way, Paleolothic people who were forced from sedentary lives into nomadic ones by climate change would have found things to love about their new lifestyle, it being the only one they know.
3. Always Coming Home, by Ursula le Guin. This is a story, sort of a fictional ethnography, about an extremely far distant future where the apocalyptic events that happened to our civilization (climate change, war, pollution) isn’t even remembered. The people the book focuses on combine aspects of hunter-gathered, agricultural, and industrial lifestyles (for example, they have access to things like trains and electricity, but totally eschew mass production). Societies that attempt to build up an industrial state like today’s generally fail, because with one thing and another the planet is too weak to support that kind of lifestyle.
For me these books have worked as a sort of 1-2-3 punch. They haven’t anaesthetized me, I’m still politically active and I still want to change my lifestyle as much as I can to live in a better way. But they’ve helped to show me a sort of hope on the far side of despair.
If any of y’all were really helped out by a certain book or other piece of media, I’d love to hear about it 🙂
Thank you for these recommendations! Climate change absolutely terrifies me, so anything that can give me a bit of hope is seriously appreciated. Thank you again!
Thanks a lot, I needed these
I'll definitely check these out.
@@ecta9604 I'm trying to be a bigger reader (depression brought on by climate change, hi!) but Jeff Vandermeer's books have had an oddly-violent cathartic effect over me. He's like an ice bath of existential dread mixed with the wonder of no-longer-industrialized worlds... terrifying and beautiful. Mostly the latter.
As a disgruntled computer scientist, Moore's Law makes my eye twitch
vlogo it used to just be about the number of transistors on a chip, and it was completely accurate then. It’s really annoying that infinite growth became a sales pitch.
Well, it is still true that technology increases at an astonishing rate, but of course it doesn't really mean anything if it isn't being put to good use, or if the development is in unhelpful places. Technology that could help us the most like battery technology has been standing still for quite some time compared to computing power.
@@dig8634 computing power can help us quite a lot when it comes to climate science, so much of it is based of modeling and computations. And even with the massive progress done, we are still quite a bit far from having reliable regional predictions of climate evolution under anthropic forcing.
@@jeanf6295 Yeah, I obviously don't think computing power is useless, it's just not what would help the most right now. It takes longer for computer models to help compared to upgrades in power supply and storage since power production is the biggest polluter alongside other oil products.
from an angry computer person perspective, all the increase appears spent on webpage ads, poorly optimized programs, and humanity's insatiable desire for higher fidelity graphics and sound (with diminishing returns).
Reactionaries would call this alarmist, but we’re all feeling it.
We are shouting "ARSONIST"
Alarmist would be a good name too.
"what's your favourite part of living in a society?" hits differently during a pandemic
Well! That was uplifting.
(The Arsonist is a really good character. I've heard people say almost word-for-word the things he says and not even realize they're fanning the fire. :c )
I am a member of the Church of Orthodox Gamers, so I shall proudly press F.
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@@joshmbrown42 id say we too press F, but not partake on some other traditions like only eating mountain due and dorito flavored things
joshmbrown42 They press X
The title in and of itself is a mood right now
Darci M right now? More like since 2016
@@xtheword well *yes* but given that parts of the Amazon Rainforest are on fire rn its feeling sadly appropriate (and been causing me mild anxiety, despite being a whole hemisphere away :/)
@@BookofMac8737
The thing is due to the Rainforest yearly climate it shouldn't be on fire. It rains so much all year round that's why it's called the RAIN forest. Its different from the forests in California which suffer droughts and historically have yearly wildfires.
@@BookofMac8737 Coming from someone who's already run the full gamut from Climate Change Awareness to Utter And Total Fucking Climate Despair and come out on the other side of it: you will get to the other side and start to understand that you can't do anything while you're a basketcase! :D It gets better. (In other words, Climate Change Acceptance is the last step just like with any other kind of grief. Olly was spot on!)
@@genieglasslamp5028 I'm Australian, so i am KEENLY aware of what fires do and what climate and biomes they help and which ones they aren't
I've seen this video a dozen times and only just noticed the Arsonist's 14 words reference at 15:35 daaammnn
I wasn't all aboard saving the planet. But now that I know flannel shirts and synth are on the line so god help me
I'm a design student and at my particular school, a lot of the problems they ask us to "solve" or at least address through design have been based on the UN's Sustainable Development Goals. Being a communist in that equation, especially with the course focused firmly on climate change, has been an incredibly frustrating and alienating experience, because many people really do seem to believe that "saving the planet" lies in designers using different materials or in raising people's motivation or in making the personal choice not to travel by plane. There was no acknowledgement of the fundamental link to capitalism, hell, not even of the fact that so much change is held back by eg oil companies. And it can be a difficult thing to explain to people who don't already believe capitalism is something that needs to be done away with; a lot of people take it as a neglect of "personal responsibility" if you argue that consumer behavior is not how we counter-act climate change. I'm hardly a good debater in the first place, but it is an area of discussion I find uniquely frustrating, and I still don't know how to introduce the more useful ways of thinking about the issue in a way people take seriously.
I really appreciate the idea of focusing on what parts of modern society we want to keep and which we don't, however. Just like "apocalypse" doesn't mean "end of the world" in Greek, people misunderstand "Ragnarok", for it is as much the start of a new world as it's the end of an old. Reading the conflict between gods and jötnar as between society and nature, it is even completely analogous with societal collapse brought on by climate change. Perhaps we would not despair so if we had more trust in what a changed world could look like.
Ever since I was a little child I knew when Earth would die, thanks to science fact books.
The sun would start to expand in five billion years, but swallow the earth at maybe 7 billion, the planet becoming inhabitable somewhere between, probably sooner than later. It made me enjoy sci-fi books even more, knowing we had so much time to become the best we could be.
Then a few years later, there was the ozone hole problem. But it wasn't a big deal because everyone was pitching in and after enough years we "won" that one.
Then, years later, I heard of global warming. This time, there wasn't a simple solution like the Freon ozone hole problem. It is truly the best illustration of the tragedy of the commons. Nobody wants to do the hard and painful things we would have to do to save our grandkids' and kids' world. We can't force those who don't want to help to help. The best hope I feel I can have is that the bacteria, jellyfish, and algea, thrive enough to keep life going in some form or other until the sun starts to die. Because I can't but help be sentimental about life existing, even if only in the shape of extremophile bacteria.
To have gone from hoping for sci-fi futures as a kid where humanity has not only survived but thrived as enlightened and compassionate, to hoping there will at least be some extremophiles left once our fuckups have had their final effects, is pretty damn depressing.
I know that feel man...
I'm currently a studying engineer. While not really a communist, I can't deny being left-leaning.
For an assessment recently I was asked with a group to come up with a household water filtration system to be fielded in a group of villages in a developing country. The filters were meant to serve as a backup for the somewhat unreliable taps that normally supply these villages.
I came up with a small, portable filter that was quite effective, but was somewhat expensive, and would require plastic bucket imports into the country, which would make it both more expensive, and less environmentally sustainable. My solution to this was not to change the design, but to change how it was deployed. Rather than relying on making some thousand of these little buckets, I suggested the idea to instead supply them at a communal level, kept inside communally-maintained storehouses across the village. In the event the water supplies broke, the smaller number of buckets would be distributed across the affected houses, used until the taps were fixed, and then returned to their storehouses for repair and refurbishment.
The lecturers promptly told me that the villagers would never accept such a thing, and that we should try and solve the environmental and cost problems in such a way that still produced a product that could be sold to every house in the village. I could understand the argument, but couldn't help but feel that by treating such ideas as hard rules we were missing out on a more efficient, cheaper, and environmentally sustainable way of solving the same problem...
@@Namelessthe3rd That sounds really frustrating. There is so much focus on materials, but the solution you came up with is genuinely more sustainable exactly because of the communal nature of it. But you can change materials without changing anything about how things are done, without social innovation, and I suppose that's why people find it an easier thing to argue for...
It's like how plastic is a useful material for food storage but is heavily overused today because of capitalist distribution and instead of looking at that distribution and daring to think of how else we might distribute food, plastic itself gets seen as the issue, with no consideration for the context of its overuse.
I've spent the last couple years at a law school with a healthy flock of fedsocs, and I've met the people I'll have to associate with to pay off my loans, so maybe I'm particularity pessimistic on this issue. Some people you shouldn't bother convincing. They're completely disconnected from reality and can't be convinced by reason. Just let them go.
Speaking as someone who deeply hates a lot of the Degrowth movement*, one of my key reasons for disliking it is because the things they expect us to collectively chuck are things that a lot of people like and want to keep just because they're not fond of it and they're fine with it, or believe that certain replacements they propose "should" be adequate for it when it's really not.
Like, quick question. how would we produce high quality collector action figures in a post capitalist ecofriendly world? How would we produce amusement parks? Or really elaborate Halloween decorations, like the kind you'd get at Spirit Halloween? Like, that's not a rhetorical question, those are things I legit want answers to, because the world would be poorer without those options; but they'd need a lot of adjustment to actually work in that world and still function adequately, that a lot of solutions from hippie-type degrowthers are not yet up to snuff on.
I still remember this one tweet that said "Sorry bucko, you'll just have to give up your anime titty figures so we can have a livable planet." And it still pisses me off. Both because A) It assumes those are mutually exclusive and B) It presumes that it's okay if certain elements of leisure and culture die because one's not personally fond of it, and it's "trash" and thusly "disposable"
Honestly, I'd say that a diversity of approaches will be needed, but one of the big things is gonna be the issue of how we make substitutes for what we need to discard that actually function. There's already approaches I can think of that'd help us keep nice things with less of a footprint, like smart devices that're actually repairable & upgradeable part-by-part instead of bullshit black boxes you have to keep replacing; or the "low tech" internet that seems to be really promising as opposed to ISP hell, or hell even a massive expansion of recycling so it's actually functional and not a depressing joke!
We need good replacements for what is unsustainable, not to chide people for not wanting what they enjoy to be destroyed! Just because things value lies in their use doesn't mean that some things hold different utility for others or that the things people denigrate as manufactured needs and culturally disposable "trash" is a worthless just because you don't like it!
*Tho, I will say we need to re-conceptualize the idea of "growth" rather than eliminate it, because it means a lot of things and the GDP as a measure is wildly horseshit.
Thanks so much for including my climate video in the description box! I really appreciate it! Excited for the premiere 😊
YEET another leftist to follow
I have to say, *Member of the church of Orthodox Gamers; Fress `F` to pay respects* is a line that I am going to steal from you.
I really like Naomi Klein’s take on this in “This Changes Everything”, which basically argues that the silver lining of climate changes is it’s making the insufferable conditions of capitalism *literally unlivable*, which helps force unity and change.
No matter what, we won’t be living like this in fifty years. My only concern is some of the old hierarchies will outlive the End of the World.
It's kind of like the thing with automation and wage labor, plus growing populations, where there literally can't be enough jobs to pair everyone off with one. Not just that you might think it's a bad idea to structure society in such a manner or not, but it will physically impossible. And probably already is, but it'll get worse.
Which calls into question the entire system in which your ability to work is directly measured as your only metric for whether your children deserve to starve or not. At some point, and not too far off, society Will shift to address that.
That's not to say it's guaranteed to be a shift will enjoy, but it's possible. Credit to Nier:Automata: "This cannot continue."
We won't be living like this, we won't be living
AsiniusNaso You accelerationists are funny.
I adore how the Arsonist’s argument about how “new” people don’t need to respect or take care of the land subtly (and at points, very overtly) reveals how American imperialists disrespected Native lands with unclean energy, landfills, and etc. Especially with when he says that immigrants might drop a cigarette and then asks you for a match for his own cigarette.
Yep, the major problem with the puritans and evangelicals who took over america aren't indigenous to it. So they really don't care about the land. That's why you see all these malls, and huge buildings and so little parks. They just don't care about the land.
Another subtle but awful thing from that scene was how Americans conquered the land when "not a soul" was living there
And the inclusion of the white supremacist 14 words. The Arsonist is a terrifying character.
Open borders is a koch brothers proposal.
Well the "do you have a match/light" thing is now a certified PhilosophyTube tradition whenever the Arsonist appears! It symbolizes the fact that fascism is like, right there ready to go, ready to be set ablaze, but it does need *other* people, especially libs, to give it the match and pull the final string. Don't give him the match, goddammit!
Quote from an indigenous leader from Kenya talking about extinction rebellion:
“Those who know the consequences of climate destruction feel it very personally, even though the consequences are for everyone. When our land is being taken from us and destroyed we feel it very personally, even if in protecting our lands we are protecting it not only for ourselves but for everybody.
“What is the motivation of people in Extinction Rebellion? You are fighting for something that matters hugely to you personally, but you are doing it both for yourself and others. You know that if you don’t act you will bear the consequences. You know that we will all bear the consequences. You don’t have a choice. What you guys are doing is fighting for us all for our tomorrow. "
I’ve heard similar things from people resisting Bolsonaro in Brazil, that privileged people in the west need to use that privilege to make their governments change course, since their governments are the greatest emitters (per person at least).
I think a lot of leftists would be surprised be how much they agree with the average member of extinction rebellion, especially when it comes to the need to move beyond capitalism as a system.
It isn’t a perfect movement obviously, but it is the one that is here now, and the fact that you only mentioned it in this video to criticise it made me very sad.
@@longnoseboi the more lefty movements the better.
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DaGuyWhoSezHi I felt the same honestly. Thanks for saying this.
It's really not just a matter of left or right. It is about what works. What functions. And any idea of reconciling a profit driven non Keynsian economy with the neccessary negative CO2 and methane emmissions has proven to be a total delusion. A delusion that is self-destructive to the core.
The destruction of life is not the bug. It is the feature of unregulated capitalism.
I personally don't think we have to repeat the failure of USSR type of socialism. In the end the USSR was more rightwing than being actually socialist. Socialism is by definition _more_ democracy, _not_ less.
I think the Democratic Socialism of the likes of *Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's* GREEN NEW DEAL is exactly what could reset hope and dignity for mankind and all life on earth.
We call ourselves *Justice Democrats.* Like Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Elizabeth Warren we accept no donations from corporations. A Patreon financed democracy, so to speak is our goal.
@@bobrolander4344 I hugely support all the figures mentioned above and the GND.
HOWEVER the point is not to not have a GND. The point is what happens after. The problems in our ecology are more than just climate change. We operate in a hyper consumerist society predicated on resource extraction and results in huge wastage. Any broader ecological project has to deal with capitalism to address it.
If you are interested, read a bit about Murray Bookchin and Social Ecology.
Full disclosure: Bookchin was a Marxist-Leninist who later abandoned it for Anarchism then grew critical of it and developed Democratic Confedralism (see Rojava) and Social Ecology.
Fuck climate change I got a political ideology to push first: Every green movement
I only just noticed that you put the Climatic Incel Threshold in '69. Nice attention to detail.
Nice.
Climate Grief has been one of my main sources of suicidal issues and I have been struggling so much to deal with it, this is helping a bit. Thanks Olly, stay grounded Cosmonauts
Jack Towers Sounds like you are just projecting to try and justify why you feel that way.
@@lukericker8325 you don't know anything about his mental health, do not make assumptions. If this video is helping him deal with it, don't judge.
Lmfao bruh
I try to stay optimistic. I want to prevent it from coming to the worst, but even if it does, I hope we can still somehow stay alive.
I try to care for my garden and make the best out of it. We have to use tap water for watering right now because Germany has had a drought last year and this year it's also quite dry. The commercial farmers have been and will again be experiencing heavy harvest losses.
I still cling to my tiny patch of land and do my best with it. MULCH, MULCH, MULCH, that's my motto. And I need to be more careful to plant every little plant into its own little hole so that the water can be applied more directly.
Just have eaten a part of a zucchini I harvested.
Potatoes, onions, carrots and beetroot are also there, as well as green beans, tomatoes, cucumbers, raspberries and even melons.
We have created a little animal paradise in our community garden. Yesterday I saw a hedgehog drinking some water that had gathered in a flower pot palette.
The garden also provides habitat for several insect and bird species that have become rare in the countryside.
Do I still frequently have anxiety attacks regarding the future? Of course!
I'm afraid of dying horribly of hunger when I'm an old lady, because food will have become so expensive due to a decline in agricultural productivity because of climate change. I have no partner and no children and only very few friends. I'm also chronically ill. The climate catastrophe is a huge fear of mine!
Let me help very sincerely - climate *catastrophe* is extremely unlikely to happen. The focus on it is to spur action and it’s working. Climate *inconvenience* is more like what we’ll get. We are moving away from carbon. Ideally we’d do it a lot faster but it will happen. Biotech and automation is improving.
There are plenty of higher chance disastrous things that will likely happen in the next 50 years like economic crises and wars but hopefully better than the last 50 years.
Wishing Charlie Koch a speedy reunion with his brother.
You cannot drink poison. You cannot eat money.
Rest In Piss.
Wyatt Ingram too
I mean, Charlie Kock can go drink poison. It would be for the good of the earth.
"The planet will be fine. It will shake us off like a bad case of fleas.... WE'RE going away." -George Carlin
Hopeful, in a strange way. A cosmic perspective to disaster can often be reassuring.
Pack your shit folks...
On monday we had a night in the middle of the day in São Paulo because of criminal forest fires in the Amazon forest. It's the perfect timing. Great video.
The Arsonist's slow burn makes my skin crawl every time.
Yes, me too. Although actually, not as bad this time. Dunno if that's him or me.
By far his best character. Both the Ben Shapiro and the Steve Bannon videos are amazing.
Yep
@@kathybramley5609 - I think it's because after finally understanding the point of the Arsonist character at the end of his arc in the Bannon video it's a lot easier to digest and understand what the character is meant to highlight in this one. We know what's coming, we know he's gonna take out the cigarette and ask for a match, and we know that it's a critique of the way the rich complain about the poor "arsonists" while actually being the arsonist themselves.
But, I am a bit worried that the arsonist character in this video really only makes sense to those of us who were introduced to him in the Bannon one. I think a lot of this video really only makes sense if it isn't your first intro to PhilosophyTube TBH.
@@petlahk4119The Arsonist is a pretty clear example of cryptofascists. It's *very* explicit in this one in particular.
spent half of my therapy session today talking about how climate change has been affecting my depression. felt inclined to send this to my therapist. thanks, olly.
"Do you have a match?" The pause after which it is said and the enunciation of the sounds. I loveeeee how theatrical your stuff is! I adore how you can literally see how much thought and passion goes behind every single decision made for a video. Props to you and the team❤❤❤
"chopin, but f*cked up" 🖤🖤🖤
(As someone who relies on subtitles, thank you for taking the time to add them
Yeah boi! intensifies
So Ollie... are those photos gonna be a patreon perk or something?
That would be ... interesting...
defenitively an efficient marketing strategy
I may have to... make some investments if that's the case...
OH NO. MORE EVIDENCE THAT THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING FASTER THAN WE THOUGHT!
THE HORNINESS COEFFICIENT IS ALREADY RISING!
Elise McClary all I’m hearing is that global warming is Ollie’s fault since he took some... photos
I like how people that are betting on a 'green Manhattan Project' do not understand what the Manhattan Project was. They knew roughly what sort of device that they needed to build, and the science behind it was sound and offered them guideposts. The science wasn't discovered mid-project. They also weren't tasked with the logistical demands that a green project would have to fulfill after the design was finished.
One thing that worries me - and is being slept on a bit - is that we don't have to wait 100 years for a global disaster as a result of warming. That is the global climate disaster, but along the way there will be ample possibilities for a global political disaster caused by climate change. This is not a time bomb that's going to blow up 100 years from now, but is instead a gradual fire consuming the planet that houses us. It won't be uniform, and along the way there will be localized crises. The thing about that is that when we look back at history, we find many examples of climate setting loose wars and rebellions; the effects of some of which are still reverberating to this day(like the French Revolution and the Dark Ages). Now, it's not that every disaster is going to have dire consequences of that sort, but every time one of these disasters hits - be it famine, hurricane, or some other crisis - we put a bet on the table and spin the wheel; some bets small and some big. Some of these bets will be swept from the table if our number doesn't come up, but some will stay there waiting for the next spin. We have an analogue for something of this sort with Syria. A mass exodus of people seeking refuge has emboldened the far right across the globe. We could see events of this sort as time goes on: again, and again, and again. This recursion will be occurring in the lead up to the climate tipping point. Within this we have several nuclear powers that like to play out chess games in flash points around the world. During the Cold War there was always the risk, albeit small, that the involvement of those foreign adversaries could escalate into a nuclear exchange. Ultimately, what drove the involvement of these governments were political agendas. What wasn't hovering over most of these conflicts were threats of scarcity.
This isn't a singular disaster that we're on course for. The probability of a major disaster will increase as time goes on. We cannot afford any half-measures. Achieving "market based solutions" shouldn't be of primary concern. We know that the major polluters are actively sabotaging or watering down the remedies that we attempt. At what point do we act?
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Indeed, how we as humans react to the effects that unfold may very well be more detrimental than the effects themselves. The book Climate Wars by Gwynne Dyer took a look at some of the most dangerous political and conflict scenarios that are linked to AGW related problems. If India and Pakistan do not resolve how to deal with reduced glacial water melt feeding their shared watersheds in the Kashmir conflict region, Pakistan's desperation for water and a resulting regional nuclear conflict has capability to cause failed or significantly reduced agriculture seasons for the rest of us across the world.
"Not a soul living there" - I lol'd. Then I cried.
Big same
I think it is great that you got Johny Depp to play the priest!
omg so it wasn't only me to get this edward scissorhand vibe
@@hanami741 I was thinking Lone Ranger, but yeah.
no kidding
The Arsonist's dialogue was probably the most true to life it has been to date.
It's eery how accurate it is
There are few things more satisfying than a creative endeavour with purpose...and high production value. I think you may be one of the objectively best creators on this website.
Damn. You watch this guy too?
You come in at a close second though.
omg numberer1 i love your YTPs!
“There was a wide open country, fresh for discovery, not a soul living there, and they build a great big civilization on top of it.”
Eesh. It’s as a funny a joke as it is scathing.
How the heck did you manage to leave me hopeful at the end of a 30 minute video on climate change?!?
I think it's like this - on their own, all these issues (immigration, police brutality, ocean warming, etc) seem insurmountable. You're forced to pick and choose your battles, because you can't deal with them all at the same time. *However*, by thinking of them as all being facets of the same problem (climate change), it suddenly becomes easier to conceptualize how to fight it. It doesn't matter where you choose to focus your energy, because you're still fighting the bigger problem. And so is everyone else.
Well, we're all going to go Mad Max, but the point of those films is you can save something good and create something new and better, even in the apocalypse. And it's nice to know that just because everyone's crazy doesn't mean there isn't good reason or your crazy can't fit with a fairly large group of other crazies.
Is Cat Girl Manor run by Tabby? I feel like it would be. Where are the baseball bats?
I was gonna say, not enough baseball bats, 3/10
Cat bouncer is probably armed to the teeth with baseball bats
@@passtheyaoi her teeth ARE baseball bats
oh she’s not running it...yet. tabby’s gonna bust it up and liberate/radicalize them all lmao
@@paiganism To use a terrible hentai meme, my response to a revolutionary catgirl army would be "Your revolutionary praxis only makes my 'baseball bat' harder."
Your David Attenborough impression is uncannily accurate
It HAS to be! You might not know, but every Brit is mandated by law to learn how to impersonate Sir David, so his voice will never die.
That was Shaun.
It's a young Attenborough for sure. As he's aged his voice has become breathier. This is like his voice in Life-on-Earth.
It wouldn't be Attenborough without ending with a "smash that motherf*cking Like Button"
I watched this video several months ago. I was very concerned about the environment and also billionaires amassing fortunes while others suffered. This is what FINALLY convinced me that they were one problem, and that Capitalism was bad. Back then, I didn't go much further than that, but this video is what finally woke me up.
Ooooh left at London is in the description THE HYPE
I love them, such a good band and such a fitting song for the ending. Had that song on loop already for the last month