Fedora Linux vs. OpenSUSE - What is BEST for you!?

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  • @TechHut
    @TechHut  2 года назад +26

    Did you know I have a second channel! ruclips.net/channel/UCJN3Qeec16b5KP2UFxMsxMA

    • @partha2806
      @partha2806 2 года назад +5

      On a serious note what do you think about using OpenBSD?

    • @TechHut
      @TechHut  2 года назад +9

      I've only used it once just for a the web browser. It worked, but I don't know enough to give an opinion.

    • @partha2806
      @partha2806 2 года назад +2

      @@TechHut well you can try using it for a cloud server ig, also how about a video comparing the best OSes for a home server on old hardware or Raspberry Pis?

  • @POINTS2
    @POINTS2 2 года назад +367

    I like the fact that OpenSUSE Tumbleweed slightly behind bleeding edge. It is curated in a way that you are likely to not get hit with system problems that you would otherwise get with Arch.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад +29

      Thats exactly why OpenSUSE is my #1 go to when it comes to rolling release with peace of mind 🙏

    • @doonkshap5400
      @doonkshap5400 2 года назад +9

      Agree I use fedora i3 edition ( I installed xmonad wm myself) dualbooted with windows 11 but I also use opensuse tumbleweed kde in my laptop for middle school and to be honest it’s been fun using these two distros

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад +7

      @@doonkshap5400 to me they are both siblings. One for the US market and one for the German/EU market 😊

    • @doonkshap5400
      @doonkshap5400 2 года назад

      @@ArniesTech interesting didn’t know opensuse is popular in the eu .

    • @wclifton968gameplaystutorials
      @wclifton968gameplaystutorials 2 года назад +2

      @@ArniesTech I always thought Ubuntu was more popular in Europe or is that just the case here in the UK?

  • @CyberGizmo
    @CyberGizmo 2 года назад +158

    Tip: if you are running Fedora, dnf will be SLOW until you enable parallel download of packages, open /etc/dnf/dnf.conf and add the following line to the end of the file: max_parallel_downloads=10.

    • @6iaZkMagW7EFs
      @6iaZkMagW7EFs Год назад +4

      20 is getter if you have 5GHz WiFi

    • @friedrichhayek4862
      @friedrichhayek4862 Год назад +6

      @@6iaZkMagW7EFs Or cables?

    • @Christian_Ky
      @Christian_Ky 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thats something I also don't understand on Arch. First thing I do is to set parallel downloads to 10....
      Parallel downloads should be by default >5 on my opinion :D

    • @EXP_Jenova
      @EXP_Jenova 6 месяцев назад

      Is this good to do if you have really slow internet?

    • @gauravdhanraja1968
      @gauravdhanraja1968 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@EXP_JenovaNo. Set it to 5 or 3

  • @avocado9227
    @avocado9227 2 года назад +162

    OpenSUSE should be used if you need a stable system that you will run for years. I have been using OpenSUSE for 10 years, snapper and yast are very important to me.

    • @markoskaram22
      @markoskaram22 2 года назад +5

      Tumbleweed or Leap?

    • @brandons2024
      @brandons2024 2 года назад +8

      @@markoskaram22 leap most likely

    • @avocado9227
      @avocado9227 2 года назад +10

      @@markoskaram22 Leap. When you have a stable system, simply run #snapper create -d stable . Next you can explore all possibilities with your system. If you break it, then # snapper rollback "snapshot number" With yast, you never need to cramp how to edit most config file. For newbies, they become displeased because VLC would not play their videos. This can be resolved by installing codec. Appimage can be used if you want the latest software.

    • @avocado9227
      @avocado9227 2 года назад +2

      @@markoskaram22 Leap. When you have a stable system, simply run #snapper create -d stable . Next you can explore all possibilities with your system. If you break it, then # snapper rollback "snapshot number" With yast, you never need to cramp how to edit most config file. For newbies, they become displeased because VLC would not play their videos. This can be resolved by installing codec. Appimage can be used if you want the latest software.

    • @rohitk8797
      @rohitk8797 2 года назад +2

      For that specific reason I prefer LMDE(Linux mint Debian edition). It’s much simpler n easy to use. Had lots of trouble trying to install my printer and codecs when I used opensuse few years ago.

  • @harveyshepherd3902
    @harveyshepherd3902 2 года назад +210

    This is a good comparison but I think you missed one vital thing about SUSE. BTRFS and Snapper as default. Any update goes bad and rollback takes all of 10 minutes. It is all setup with reasonable defaults on your install and it removes all concerns I had about a rolling release. NVidia driver problems...rollback.... deleted important files.... rollback... it is great

    • @stephenreaves3205
      @stephenreaves3205 2 года назад +6

      I'm so glad Fedora uses BTRFS by default. Just wished they also support ZFS

    • @cj7073
      @cj7073 2 года назад +1

      @@fkstudio5901 does it have all packages like Spotify and other average user stuff and what about ricing tumbleweed?

    • @harveyshepherd3902
      @harveyshepherd3902 2 года назад +7

      @@cj7073 the OBS system works a little like the AUR. a lot of project maintainers will have "home" repos on the OBS for software not included in official. Also flatpak works great for anything weird. There isnt a single linux "thing" Ive needed that I havent been able to install in about 10 minutes, I usually check official repos, then if the package maintainer has their own home repo in OBS, then Flatpak if that fails

    • @Mobin92
      @Mobin92 Год назад +1

      @@cj7073 It comes with Flatpak so you can install most things anyway.

  • @Lanzetsu
    @Lanzetsu 2 года назад +54

    Finally OpenSuse being considered in Linux world... it usually get so much underrated it is a crime. I've been using it as my main OS for years and tomorrow I will be using it at work finally (besides Windows with Dual Boot), I am still wondering if going for Leap or Tumbleweed, I always used Leap or the stable releases

    • @basilcat3111
      @basilcat3111 2 года назад +4

      Maybe Tumbleweed.

    • @Aepigon
      @Aepigon 2 года назад +5

      I have been using tumbleweed for years. And will use it for years to come... Love it

    • @JacobKinsley
      @JacobKinsley Год назад +1

      Use leap if you stuck with windows 7 for a good decade until things stopped working entirely. Otherwise use tumbleweed

    • @PurpleComrad
      @PurpleComrad Год назад

      I use leap also... Gotta try tumbleweed, heard good things about it

    • @titolignon3058
      @titolignon3058 Год назад

      Hello I am a newbie on this project, but, I remember having a LInux Suse laptop younger and I liked the logo and design of the OS. However, now I would like to try again Linux (I am on windows and apple), I want to learn coding and be on something neutral as an open OS. Is SUSE the same as Ubuntu, Cinnamon, etc ? Or am I wrong everywhere ? I need some tips ... I am really a newbie ... How can I get Suse onto a laptop ? Are there some with Suse by default into them or should I always download it after buying a laptop with a Ubuntu version ?

  • @ArniesTech
    @ArniesTech 2 года назад +24

    Oh boy you opened my Personal Box of Pandora 👀🤣 two gigantic RPM based Enterprise focussed distros. Being a German 🇩🇪 I of course have a soft spot for SuSE 😁

  • @partha2806
    @partha2806 2 года назад +171

    A comparison between the two SUS os es would be appreciated: AmongOs vs OpenSuse

  • @wylelias
    @wylelias 2 года назад +7

    My favorite thing about techHut videos...my ears don't get blown out, but the excitement of tech still shines through. Keep up the great videos!

  • @logan225
    @logan225 2 года назад +26

    Started on opensuse back in 2005 (bought a burned cd from ebay). Distro hopped for over a decade and came back to tumbleweed. I love it. It even made me a fan of KDE when I've been using gnome2 and mate up until now.

    • @stephenwilson0386
      @stephenwilson0386 2 года назад +4

      Tumbleweed finally put an end to my distro hopping earlier this year. I started with KDE and didn't care for it (not SUSE's fault, I just always find KDE to be buggy) but YaST makes it ez-pz to change your desktop, so now I'm running Cinnamon and love it. I might also install Fedora 37 on a secondary SSD, but Tumbleweed is my primary system and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

    • @viacheslavspitsyn2995
      @viacheslavspitsyn2995 Год назад +2

      What is special in OpenSUSE version of KDE?

  • @Subh8081
    @Subh8081 8 месяцев назад +7

    OpenSuSE's KDE is one of the best implementations of KDE along with Manjaro while Fedora's GNOME is one of the best implementations of GNOME. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is a bit more demanding on RAM than OpenSuse Leap as per my experience.

  • @lisovyy
    @lisovyy 2 года назад +8

    thanks for highlighting OpenSUSE. I'm a daily user myself so this is kind of a pleasure :)

  • @Feratium
    @Feratium 2 года назад +11

    I've used both fedora and opensuse (tumbleweed) as daily driver's and they're both very stable.
    In my experience it's easier to install the software I use on fedora but it was easier for me to use multiple desktop environment's on opensuse. I currently use fedora on my laptop and might install fedora or opensuse on my main PC again. Overall I like both distributions.

  • @larsradtke4097
    @larsradtke4097 2 года назад +8

    11:40 package kit running in the background, just wait until it finishes, on boot up it checks for updates takes some minutes after boot. Then you re free to install and whatever you want without issues.
    Network manager, switch in Yast to either yast or user controlled.
    Yes, there are apps installed, so you can directly start and use them, otherwise select minimal install.
    I definitely prefer OpenSUSE over every other distribution, because of Yast. And that my Ryzen+ nvida combo notebook works out of the box without fiddling with tumbleweed and 5 connected.

  • @bitwise2832
    @bitwise2832 Год назад +4

    As a Suser for 25 years, the stability, yast, and reliability are excellent. For home gaming, tumbleweed is more stable now, for a rolling release.

  • @doonkshap5400
    @doonkshap5400 2 года назад +10

    I use fedora as my linux distro and it’s been great but at the end of day use the distro that you like . Both of them are fantastic so technically in my opinion there is no best :)

    • @arkvsi8142
      @arkvsi8142 2 года назад +3

      I like TempleOS since it runs Microsoft Office natively

  • @moister3727
    @moister3727 2 года назад +6

    Fedora for now, haven't really tested OpenSUSE. But Fedora is stable enough for me and I've never had problems with it so far.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад +3

      Never change a winning team but If you want to explore SuSE one day, I highly recommend it 😎

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 2 года назад +4

      @@ArniesTech Yeh, if XFCE ever gets update/Wayland support, I'll change to OpenSuse

  • @titanbringer9635
    @titanbringer9635 2 года назад +27

    I am really surprised the "Everything" installer version of Fedora wasn't mentioned, especially since it incorporates all the same things as the OpenSUSE installer. Makes people think there is only Gnome with Fedora, when there are plenty of other options for desktop environments.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад +4

      Thats exactly why I made a video on Fedora Everything 💪😎

    • @Hartvigson
      @Hartvigson Год назад

      That is what made me choose between Arch, Manjaro and Tumbleweed when I left Debian Sid. I will never use Gnome, I really don't like it. I thought Fedora came with gnome as default.

    • @siliconhawk
      @siliconhawk Год назад +1

      wait there is a better installation i kinda dont like the default installer. it just feels un-intuitive to me. i know what they are trying to do there with minimal setup so as to not scare away users. but personally i feel like as if i am not in control of the installer (i know thats not the case necessarily but it gives that feeling)

    • @rondencer5227
      @rondencer5227 Год назад

      I like cinnamon.

  • @lsatenstein
    @lsatenstein 2 года назад +13

    I use Fedora and SUSE leap15.4. I do my compiling with the latter, and then run the compiled programs on each.
    SUSE Leap's compiled programs seem to be 10% smaller in size for the same functionality. I am second guessing that
    the compiler libraries are very highly optimized by SUSE.

  • @sebtheanimal
    @sebtheanimal Год назад +4

    You are correct in that Fedora is one of the best. I am a long time linux user, since the 90s, Caldera, Red Hat, Slackware, SuSe a bit later, 2001 and so forth and so on, Fedora Core 2. Rpm is familiar territory and very powerful. I avoid Ubuntu because it is dumbed down to a typical Windows user, which is a good thing for a Windows user which is not a bad thing at all, might as well skip ahead and run Debian.

  • @thekerker
    @thekerker 2 года назад +53

    Funny you mention DNF’s slowness. DNF4 (the current version on Fedora) was written in Python. DNF5, which is coming with Fedora 39 I believe, is written in C++ and is ridiculously faster than DNF4.

    • @AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV
      @AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV 2 года назад +6

      Yeah, I have dnf5 installed from a copr repo and it's decently fast, lighnting fast when compared to dnf4. Scared to use it though, because it might f up my shit. It shows that upgrades are available, but those same upgrades aren't shown by dnf4.

    • @miscellaneous5425
      @miscellaneous5425 2 года назад

      Been looking forward to this addition.

    • @Prizm44
      @Prizm44 2 месяца назад

      Good old C++ coming to the rescue once again to bail out sh*tty modern programming languages

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo 2 года назад +16

    I use Tumbleweed for quite a while after coming from Mint KDE which has been discontinued years ago.
    Sure, the installer feels a little like Windows 98 from its looks and if you are on nVidia Graphics, openSuSE is anything but simple to set up.
    Also multimedia codecs are annoying but outside of that, I feel like it's the best mixture so far when it comes to usability and cutting edge software.
    Plus, I love KDE Plasma and SUSE ever since makes sure this DE shines on their distro.

    • @pavelperina7629
      @pavelperina7629 2 года назад

      Interesting, I used Manjaro for pretty much the same reasons. I'd like to experiment with FerenOS a bit. OpenSuse is not bad, but TW is upgraded too often for my taste, whereas Leap is pretty good and stable.

    • @viacheslavspitsyn2995
      @viacheslavspitsyn2995 Год назад

      What is special in OpenSUSE version of KDE?

    • @pavelperina7629
      @pavelperina7629 Год назад +1

      @@viacheslavspitsyn2995 My experience with kubuntu was horrible, it feels like Ubuntu with KDE packages that are not tested or modified, but someone made bad assumption that it will work. No one bothered to even change fonts or background. I never had issue with KDE in opensuse and only minor ones in Manjaro. In Ubuntu it felt broken. But this was in 2014 or so, maybe it got better.

  • @TVPInterpolation
    @TVPInterpolation 2 года назад +26

    if it hasnt been shown in the video, theres also fedora "everything" which gives you quite a bit more to pick from in anaconda, and might suit the need of someone who wants multiple desktop environments installed, or just more choice available.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад

      Yepps, just did a Video on that. Love Fedora Everything 💪🙏

  • @Herminafried
    @Herminafried 2 года назад +1

    Since this month i´m using Linux Desktop for 20 years. I started with Suse Linux 8.1 with KDE. 20 years and many distro hopps later I´m on Fedora 37 Workstation. When Fedora is now my favorite daily driver, opensuse tumbleweed is my alltime number two as a professional working base.

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g 2 года назад +9

    One gotcha in Suse is if you remove a package that was installed as part of a pattern, it will auto reinstall. There is a setting to stop that, but you have to know and go hunt in a config file.
    Thats my only complain with all of Suse. Some things are clunky.
    Overall I view Tumbleweed as Arch done right.

    • @fkstudio5901
      @fkstudio5901 2 года назад

      Right click is YaST and blacklist.

  • @BarateonLP
    @BarateonLP 2 года назад +8

    For anyone wanting to try an OpenSuse system i would straight up recommend picking up Gecko Linux instead. It's pr much exactly like OpenSuse, except their entire point is to make it more user friendly and better working out of the box (as well as more supported DEs). As a Tumbleweed user i gotta say nothing is more annoying than after an install realising half of the videos on RUclips wont work and then faintly remember that you have to add the packman repo and make a vendor change to get proper media codecs working. If i knew that existed earlier i would've picked them immediately. Also best feature imo is the preconfigured snapper making a rollback of the system a matter of seconds if anything ever goes wrong (like adding and changing to the KDE dev repos and realising stuff doesn't work as well anymore, no that i would no anything about that).

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g 2 года назад +3

    Suse really helped me learn more about Linux. Play around with things, Yast to point in the right direction. Accidentally screw it up, just rollback in Snapper.

  • @randomname2437
    @randomname2437 2 года назад +3

    Love or hate suse, but admit that they have the best Linux songs.

  • @r4_broadcast
    @r4_broadcast 2 года назад +1

    Something I Love of openSUSE is the fact that the GRUB2 install cones by default with os-prober. I know you can I stall it later, but having it by default for dual booteers is amazing

  • @justinhall3243
    @justinhall3243 Год назад +10

    I have used both extensively over the last 25 odd years. Since Gnome 3 came out I prefer SuSE as it is KDE all the way.

  • @xperience-evolution
    @xperience-evolution 2 года назад +3

    openSUSE Tumbelweed is already running Gnome 43 while Feodra gets it on October 18.
    Just for the record

  • @chairman67
    @chairman67 2 года назад +10

    Neither of these worked best for me.. Manually adding the mirrors from a web list for OpenSUSE was troublesome. And I couldn't add the repositories in Yast because of a certain Great Firewall causing its problems. I'm not a fan of Fedora's installer to configure a manual partition layout for my PC.. Anaconda is horrible compared to Calamares. There is no best Linux out there.. My advice is find a distro and D.E. that works best for you whatever it may be, and stick with it !

  • @GeoStreber
    @GeoStreber 2 года назад +9

    I just wanna point out the fact that SUSE was founded in my hometown of Fürth.

  • @agathalorenzo4224
    @agathalorenzo4224 2 года назад +13

    YAST were created so that the OpenSUSE experience in KDE & Gnome *(EDIT: and all other DE)* were equal.
    Otherwise, the setting in KDE & Gnome *(and all other DE)* will be different. Especially since Gnome setting were more simple than KDE.
    2nd, the YAST setting have the terminal mode (text mode) which is very useful for tech support fixing other computer over the network/internet.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад +9

      Exactly. One simply has to love YaST. Such a great tool 💪

    • @danielberglv259
      @danielberglv259 2 года назад

      But then you strip away any other tool that it replaces and update the design to match the decade that we are in. YaST still looks like a 25 year old TK application and having multiple tools to perform the same tasks, just makes an OS seam messy.
      Besides, at the time YaST was created, DE's did not have very powerful configurations. For an example things like display settings mostly just included screen resolution, but only worked if you manually configured xorg.conf first, while other DE's lacked this feature all together. At that time Suse and Mandrake (Mandriva) where the only distro's to include proper GUI configuration. They where never any good though, as they where extremely slow and buggy. But without any real alternatives, who could complain.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад +5

      @@danielberglv259 do Not forget that its mostly GNOME and KDE who have powerful and beautiful system tools. Others like XFCE, LXQT, iceWM etc dont and here YaST shines bright. Also SysAdmins can config remote Computers without the need of graphical display since YaST has a terminal interface that looks like a BIOS. Very convenient.

    • @danielberglv259
      @danielberglv259 2 года назад +1

      @@ArniesTech I do agree that the CLI option is great, but I don't see why the GUI itself needs to look like a BIOS screen. Also it's not true about lighter desktops like XFCE, LX* and such. They have a fine selection of configurations. You will not have problems configuring displays, network connections and such. This was an actual issue once, even on the larger desktops. It's those simple tasks that you just expect to be there without thinking about them. At one time, they were not there. Desktops included tools to configure the desktop, but anything hardware related, and you would have to consult the terminal.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад

      @@danielberglv259 Same as DNF or synaptic being "old" solutions although there are Discover, GNOME Software etc. They are there because Not every DE has a consistent settings tool.

  • @AndrewSpec
    @AndrewSpec 2 года назад +3

    I'm a Win user but I have some weeks that I only work on linux and openSUSE Thumbleweed was my #1 for a very long time. Every single update was a mess and was breaking my system so I removed it and started using Fedora as they started partnership with Lenovo (but this comment I'm writing from Ubuntu)

  • @eadthem0
    @eadthem0 Год назад +2

    The reason for a delay in zypper and yast2 software is it fully syncs the repo status before doing anything. I find this step is faster on the 2nd run.
    This is apposed to my limited experience with some others just failing at the install step until you manually do a resync or say update repos.

  • @garudaos
    @garudaos 2 года назад +3

    popped up on my feed 9 seconds after you posted it 💀

  • @cantdance3077
    @cantdance3077 2 года назад +8

    Always appreciate your info, sir. Having moved from Windows to Linux , I’m just not a fan of any distro that feels like a “Nerds Gone Wild”. That’s what Opensuse felt like to me. Also not a fan of Gnome, so Fedora Workstation flagship also isn’t for me. MX Linux however is just my speed. But I really like the Linux journey, so I’ll revisit those again when I’m ready.

    • @fkstudio5901
      @fkstudio5901 2 года назад

      OpenSUSE is nerds gone wild to you? The one bloody distro is the world that is innovating Linux and making it accessible to more people. Man I'd hate to be as narrow-minded as you.

    • @omecor314
      @omecor314 2 года назад +6

      @@fkstudio5901 We should be welcoming to people that have just recently started their Linux journey. If anyone is NOT narrow-minded, it's those who took the plunge to go and learn about Linux. Don't push them away with comments like the one you made. Instead, ask them how you can help them answer any questions they may have.

    • @fkstudio5901
      @fkstudio5901 2 года назад

      @@omecor314 Are you alright? I'm not a babysitter. People can do what they want.

    • @cantdance3077
      @cantdance3077 2 года назад

      @@omecor314 Thank you, Good point. Tried Opensuse a couple of times but just wasn’t for me. Perhaps I’ll revisit it when I become more knowledgeable with Linux in general.

    • @stephenwilson0386
      @stephenwilson0386 2 года назад +1

      @Mike Manfredi To be fair you can install any desktop on pretty much any distro. With openSUSE you just go to the "Software Selection" section during install and pick whatever desktop you like. Of course YaST makes it super easy to change your mind later too.

  • @basilcat3111
    @basilcat3111 2 года назад +1

    I use both everyday. Both imo are the most complete linux distros out there.

  • @DMSBrian24
    @DMSBrian24 2 года назад +8

    Fedora's exclusive is the one-of-the-kind integration level with gnome including the software store, which allows you to very easily install new input methods etc. sth i struggled with a lot in the past on other distros.

    • @JTCPingas
      @JTCPingas 2 года назад +5

      The only thing I wish gnome software did was give you a list of dependencies required for the application you want to install just like other gui software managers.

  • @aniksen3831
    @aniksen3831 2 года назад +1

    I using both. Suse Tumbleweed in my desktop & in my laptop i use Fedora. I tested and using this two distro specially opensuse is much stable, suitable and best for me, other hand fedora is probably same as like Opensuse Tumbleweed. Few days ago i change my laptop os to fedora kde from zorin.

  • @knofi7052
    @knofi7052 6 месяцев назад +1

    To be honest, Tumbleweed KDE is simply the best as a rolling Distribution when you've got a new laptop! It even let me install a new firmware and bios upgrade out of the box.

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g 2 года назад +1

    Day to day security updates you can be running dnf up-min or update-minimum. Its just the security patches and bug fixes. It’ll cut your update time in half. Then when you have time every couple weeks run full dnf update.

  • @shubhamjani2509
    @shubhamjani2509 2 года назад +18

    KDE: openSuse
    GNOME: Fedora

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад +2

      Yea true, BUT OpenSUSE is also closely related to GNOME since SLE is using GNOME by default ever since and the experience is great 🙏

  • @niru216
    @niru216 4 месяца назад

    2:17 Whoa I never knew this existed, and I've been using tumbleweed for over 2 yrs 😭 thank you

  • @wyfyj
    @wyfyj 2 года назад +1

    Last time I used SUSE, it was sent out with Linux magazines. Mandrake and Knoppix days kinda. Way long ago lol

  • @oscaride283
    @oscaride283 2 года назад +12

    With opensuse tumbleweed i've always had dependencies issues..
    For example , a Program needed libuuid and there was actually libuuid, but with a slightly different name.
    Zypper was kinda confused and had to install it *without* libuuid and potentially breaking dependencies. I never had something like this at all on any distro

    • @itachielarbi3304
      @itachielarbi3304 2 года назад

      This is the principle of Linux work that each package does one job and in the right way and this is good in Suse

    • @oscaride283
      @oscaride283 2 года назад +8

      @@itachielarbi3304 I'm not sure of you understood what I was writing.
      Just to clarify.
      -A program needed a dependency called libuuid
      - OpenSuse had this package, but the name was a little bit different for some reason
      - Zypper was like, " nah sorry we have something like libuuid1, but that's not it. You need to install without it"
      It does not feel safe to me when I just break some dependencies and hope it just runs fine

    • @shashibhowmick1394
      @shashibhowmick1394 2 месяца назад

      ​@@oscaride283 im late but with rpmrebuild you can edit the rpm dependency to have libuuid1 instead of libuuid

  • @BeesCantSwim
    @BeesCantSwim 2 года назад

    I upgraded my Fedora 36 to Fedora 37 pre-release. No problems, no issues.

  • @phant0
    @phant0 5 месяцев назад +1

    I gave Fedora a try. From what little I saw of it it appeared nice and polished. But it didn't seem to like my hardware configuration at all. Once installed, it booted and immediately flooded me with error report pop ups. I installed the update hoping that it would fix it, and it just bricked itself. I just wiped the drive and installed OpenSUSE, which I've been using for months now and it has been rock solid despite me being relatively new to Linux and not having a single clue of what I am doing. I guess experience may vary.

  • @jay-j6l
    @jay-j6l 3 месяца назад

    love opensuse tw, it's solid, almost never had any issues other than maybe the update that break something, but you can always get back up and running either by going on their forum, or just waiting for a fix to get pushed. Setting up a solid KVM experience was basically a single click.

  • @citywitt3202
    @citywitt3202 2 года назад +2

    May I add the update process for tumbleweed is rock solid? Arch installations I’ve left for a month have broken on updating and needed a reinstall, whereas I’ve seen someone’s 6 month old tumbleweed installation swap out nearly every package in the system with no errors.

  • @ursa_solaris
    @ursa_solaris 2 года назад +2

    Bro I've literally been debating between Fedora and OpenSUSE all morning. Open RUclips, there's your video. This is uncanny.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech 2 года назад +2

      All morning? To this debate goes on for this entire year so far 😅🤣

  • @jesusmayeutico
    @jesusmayeutico 2 года назад +2

    openSUSE Tumbleweed +XFCE best combo, R&R distro and stable desktop.

  • @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb
    @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb 2 года назад +1

    Fortunately with something like Distrobox, you can still have the AUR, just in a container.
    I'm running OpenSuSE MicroOS here.

  • @utx0
    @utx0 2 года назад

    Great vid. Still see no need to switch from Fedora. Its simple just works.

  • @burning_KFC
    @burning_KFC 2 года назад +1

    As always writing a comment to support the channel

  • @DerekTDR
    @DerekTDR Год назад +2

    Like, there could be nothing wrong with this video, but you try to compare Fedora and openSUSE (as I saw Tumbleweed, without even saying something more about Leap releases) without having much knowledge. The package managers are the weakest point, why? Because they are slow. Bruh.
    I used Fedora for some years and openSUSE (I also used Debian, Arch, Manjaro, Ubuntu, etc.) and zypper is the best package manager from any other pkgmgrs I used. It has multiple options like locking packages, adding ofc new repo etc. And the best thing is that zypper uses short commands, you can type "zypper install" (the beginner way) or "zypper in" (the professional way).
    Still however comparing Fedora and openSUSE is I think a good choice as openSUSE and Fedora communities are mostly friendly to each other.

  • @sunwire
    @sunwire 2 года назад +1

    1:58 In Fedora you can do the same. But you have to choose Fedora Everything instead of Fedora Workstation.

  • @TheJunky228
    @TheJunky228 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm very happy with opensuse leap

  • @Beryesa.
    @Beryesa. 2 года назад +2

    Hehe, the thumbnail is wonderful

  • @Mojo_DK
    @Mojo_DK Год назад +3

    Would you recommend using SELinux on OpenSUSE? I am not an advanced user but I would like to have the same security as Fedora

  • @robbylock1741
    @robbylock1741 2 года назад

    I used SuSE starting with 7.1 Professional back before it was bought out by Novel years ago, then switch to Fedora after the purchase and never looked back. Recently I tried OpenSUSE again, uh not so great so back on Fedora and you can use dnf to do a full upgrade to the next version so that's not an issue!

  • @jhaokip23
    @jhaokip23 2 года назад +3

    How about Fedora KDE vs openSUSE KDE?

  • @sproid
    @sproid 2 года назад +1

    I need to test drive Fedora again after many years. It receive too many compliments recently. But my opinion on both was the same as your conclusion for OpenSuse. In the past I found them both to be kinda good but no at the same time; like the Ubuntu of now. Time to start up to some VMs and reevaluate.

  •  2 года назад +1

    I'm think Yast a different target audience, it is more powerful vs. Desktop utilities that are more limited.

  • @johannesjoseph823
    @johannesjoseph823 Год назад

    I saw the cursed Tux drawing and I love it

  • @Scott00
    @Scott00 2 года назад +3

    Both of these distros are excellent and my 2 favorite at the moment.. But I ultimately settled on Fedora KDE spin, but if I have problems with Fedora then I'd be just as happy going back to TW.

  • @satyamevajayate7263
    @satyamevajayate7263 3 месяца назад

    Fedora is focused on Gnome, Tumbleweed on the other hand on KDE. Zypper and DNF both are slow but in my experience opensuse is a better experience.

  • @piadas804
    @piadas804 4 месяца назад +1

    Debian's package manager is DPKG, not APT.

  • @hansjaru
    @hansjaru 2 года назад

    I keep coming back to Manjaro even when i have tried fedora, opensuse, garuda and archcraft (i liked the new fedora 36).

  • @Tzalim
    @Tzalim 2 года назад +1

    I would never move from anything that doesn't have the AUR or Chaotic AUR. And that's why I'm on Garuda Lite (it was barebones).

  • @kevinpitts3548
    @kevinpitts3548 2 года назад

    Although Suse 9 has a special place in my heart as it was my first! Fedora will be it for the foreseeable future

  • @amirsuhel7184
    @amirsuhel7184 Год назад

    I used ubuntu for a long period. But recently I have been using fedora. And I have to admit that fedora is the best distro for me. Fedora is just best at everything. I am never going back to ubuntu ever again.

  • @HadesTimer
    @HadesTimer 2 года назад +3

    I use Fedora Silverblue. Have been for around 3 or 4 months now. I would never go to anything else at this point. I've found a lot of blank spots in Open SUSE. If I was going to use a rolling release I'd use ArcoLinux. But I've really committed to Fedora Silverblue. It is BY FAR the best distro I've ever used for production. It has amazing documentation and every package I need can be attained. The customization isn't great. But I'm willing to give that up for everything Fedora Silverblue offers. Also, I wouldn't recommend the average person use a rolling release system.

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify 2 года назад +1

      How often do you personally update the image? Also, which blank spots from opensuse specifically?
      I'm considering REALLY heavily to use one of the two 'immutable' distros in my laptop (either silverblue or microOS), but as I really only use it when travelling I want to know if it will be fine after being turned off for a couple of weeks, and then just work without updating.

  • @omervandenbelt
    @omervandenbelt 11 месяцев назад

    Although, I distro hop from time to time I always somehow come back to OpenSuse. Currently, Because, I am the secretary of an organization I need stability, thus I use LEAP.

  • @being_aslam_tiger
    @being_aslam_tiger 2 года назад +2

    Opensuse tumbleweed.. is king 👑🌟

  • @HopliteSecurity
    @HopliteSecurity 2 года назад +1

    This was another amazing video that covers those key considerations and difference between Fedora and OpenSUSE. Keep up the great work, energy and community content ❤

  • @gredhawk
    @gredhawk Год назад +1

    I'm just the opposite. We all have our favorite distros, but I prefer OpenSuSe Tumbleweed with a KDE destop. Gnome is to simple for serious work! Just Sayin.

  • @wp6007
    @wp6007 2 года назад +1

    Rhythmbox does not suck, it's one of the best music players on linux

  • @hobbes1069
    @hobbes1069 2 года назад

    The post install setup was kinda required to preload Fedora on Levono computers :)

  • @dubliv
    @dubliv 2 года назад

    Just commenting to let you know that I too am one of your buddies at TechHut.

  • @JaneDoe-nl1vd
    @JaneDoe-nl1vd 2 года назад +2

    nobody ever talks about packages available in the repos, they talk about proprietary stuff at length but rarely foss stuff, there's so much foss stuff out there that isn't packaged as an rpm only a deb, even proprietary stuff that the folks who make it package themselves, they target deb based distros and nobody ever talks about this in distro reviews as if people aren't gonna care. YES we have flatpack/snaps/appimages but containerized applications have limits native packaged applications don't. permissions. you download an rpm for fedora, that doesn't mean it'll work with opensuse cause they may not package all the dependencies it needs. there more than a couple of pieces of software only available as debs and you can't get them any other way cause its closed source so you either run a deb based os or you just can't get the software.
    someone tell me im a dumb dumb and there's something im overlooking. i use flatpak/snaps/appimages and i still come across stuff that i have to go to the software vendor for, sometimes they package their stuff as a deb and rpm, but there are a lot of times they only offer debs.

  •  2 года назад

    I think AUR can be replaced with the OBS (yes you can also use it with Arch). If you have some packaging experience you can also port these AUR packages into a rpm based distro.

  • @KB-jt3ns
    @KB-jt3ns 2 года назад +1

    if using tw make sure to use package updater to update your packages or if doing through terminal then sudo Zypper dup. ive moved from fedora and I had to do alot more setting up while opensuse tw just work out of the bag

  • @walter_lesaulnier
    @walter_lesaulnier Год назад

    My Fedora 38's DNF package manager is 95% as fast as Pacman in my highly tweaked pure Arch install on the same hardware.

  •  2 года назад +1

    I love kde but the more i use gnome the more i feel like it's the best

  • @cypher0124
    @cypher0124 5 месяцев назад +1

    are the suse bugs you encountered fixed now in 2024?

  • @lamaschera6321
    @lamaschera6321 Год назад +1

    OpenSUSE is the Best!

  • @xperience-evolution
    @xperience-evolution 2 года назад +4

    I switched to Fedora a week ago and had a really bad experience especially since everyone hypes Fedora at the moment. With an dedicated Nvidia gpu it is not a great experience and Fedora does not provide an easy gpu driver GUI.
    My battery lasted for 1 hour 50 doing nothing after boot. On Zorin OS I got 4 to 5 hours watching RUclips.
    And after I managed to disable Nvidia and boost my battery to 3 to 4 hours browsing the net there was a new Kernel update and it messed everything up again.
    I would like to stay with Fedora but if this continues I will move on.
    Feels like installing Linux 15 years ago

    • @androth1502
      @androth1502 2 года назад +1

      nvidia seems to be a weak point for fedora at the moment. opensuse works great for me, even with wayland. i hear ubuntu is pretty good too, but i have never installed ubuntu. maybe i'll try it next month.

    • @AyaWetts
      @AyaWetts 2 года назад +2

      Really? I installed Fedora... enabled 3rd party repos when asked after install... then inside Gnome Software Center I searched nvidia, saw the nvidia installer, clicked it, rebooted when told, and my drivers have worked great, gaming and all. Was pretty easy like many other distros.

    • @androth1502
      @androth1502 2 года назад

      @@AyaWetts on fedora, i get a laggy experience with xorg and wayland is nigh on unusable. on opensuse, everything works smoothly as it should, even on wayland.
      i'm sure fedora+nvidia works for some people, i guess depending on which card they have, but too many people, including me have problems with nvidia and those problems were annoying enough for me to stop using fedora.
      opensuse has less spit and polish, but otherwise is just as functonal as fedora, doing some things better and other things not as good.

    • @guitarhero01234
      @guitarhero01234 2 года назад +1

      Been tinkering with Fedora in a dual boot - I use an AMD card, but as far as I'm aware, Standard Fedora repos don't include non-free software, so you have to enable third party repos (specifically, RPM Fusion) for the better Nvidia drivers. Not sure if you've already done this or not, but if you haven't, it's worth looking into

    • @xperience-evolution
      @xperience-evolution 2 года назад

      @@guitarhero01234 Have done that from the beginning, thanks anyway.

  • @colerche
    @colerche 8 месяцев назад

    You know, they really do have quite a lot in common.

  • @jamie9419
    @jamie9419 2 года назад +1

    My issue with dnf slowness is that, as i add third party repositories, it updates all of them up front everytime I do anything and that's the bottleneck.. it makes the output ugly too cause you see all these janky repos updating everytime dnf does anything.. that being said, i actually rarely use dnf because the GNOME software implementation is really good once you get flathub in it

  • @snowman4933
    @snowman4933 2 года назад

    I actually was writing my code while listening to your video, and in the end part of the video, you said "which obviously if you didn't get the hint i" and I misunderstood it as "hentai" and I was like "wait what?". Rewinded, and finally understood.

  • @filcidable
    @filcidable 2 года назад +1

    No time to play with desktop distros. Just want stability to focus on my work, and GDPR is important for me too. Leap, and nothing else!!

  • @Linrox
    @Linrox Год назад

    There are two thinks about linux, particularly Leap that i hate. 1. every time it updates it breaks and then i speaks weeks fixing it. 2. There are a lot of programs that i use regularly that don't work on linux even under wine, and this makes me want windows back. Not to mention how out of date a lot of programs are, compared to what is available.

  • @ABsazerNer
    @ABsazerNer 2 года назад

    I tested fedora then opensuse then mint, mint now is the best

  • @ferdikadatu687
    @ferdikadatu687 4 месяца назад

    thanks for your video. I looking for stable distro environment for my old laptop for daily driver use and digital painting. Because i tried many linux from ubuntu, mint, big linux, lubuntu, kubuntu, endeavoros, and at last is mx linux. maybe this one is what i needed.

    • @MrBrigadierArchived
      @MrBrigadierArchived 4 месяца назад

      may I ask what's wrong with Mint or Kubuntu? I mean, why didn't you stop on them and how long did you try to be on?

    • @ferdikadatu687
      @ferdikadatu687 4 месяца назад +1

      @@MrBrigadierArchived well for mint just 1 month and kubuntu is 3 month. I stopped because it always login in software rendering mode

    • @MrBrigadierArchived
      @MrBrigadierArchived 4 месяца назад

      @@ferdikadatu687 thanks.

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g 2 года назад

    Both are currently rewriting their installers in a similar approach.

  • @michaelmcdonald3275
    @michaelmcdonald3275 2 года назад +1

    openSUSE has SNAPPER rollback integrated into it's GRUB menu and it has true full disk encryption which means sda1 & /boot. Therefore the other distros are not true full disk encryption.

  • @geebusfilms
    @geebusfilms Год назад

    Nice video. Thanks!

  • @luancarlosoliveira5128
    @luancarlosoliveira5128 2 года назад

    I don't think dnf is slow, the mirrors are, and yet there is option to configure it to automatically check for the fastest mirror and use deltarpms that reduce the size of the downloads

    • @satyasaran3567
      @satyasaran3567 2 года назад

      fastest mirror I know, but how to use that delta rpms?

    • @luancarlosoliveira5128
      @luancarlosoliveira5128 2 года назад

      @@satyasaran3567 Last time I' ve read the docs I remember it saying it's enable by default, probably would the case if you use fedora. But anyway, just add "deltarpm=True" to /etc/dnf/dnf.conf