Certain Asian women out there who are more invested in condemning “Koreaboos” liking Asian men (a relatively new phenomena), than they are condemning white men denigrating Asian men (something that’s been going on for generations). Often it’s not even talked about, and those Asian women think that nobody else notices.
i never found asian guy fetishization harmful/bad (most of the time it is harmless/cute where the girl just likes kpop or asian culture), but i have seen countless amount of times where guys fetishize asian girls in a harmful/toxic/dangerous way and many asian girls get degraded/harrassed especially by incels of all races as just sexual
I agree man. When the attraction is rooted in racism and is problematic I think that's where it is harmful. I've seen examples of western men lusting after underanged Asian girls in third world countries, that is fetishization. But a girl liking an Asian guy because she reminds him of a leading man in a kdrama, where the harm in that? That's not at all different from girls liking guys because they remind them of their favorite musician or actor.
There was a very real stigma to finding Asian men attractive in the past. I literally was made fun of by friends and family. This was before any BTS member was even born. I’m glad that things now are more open for everyone and that Asian men are getting their shine. Specially the ones that do not conform to a Kpok look. If I were on a dating app I would definitely favor dating Asian guys for their entrepreneurship, focus on family, education, and other cultural values that are shared.
@@Ewang2727 I look like Sydney Tamiia Poitier, so that was definitely not my case 😂😂😂I think not having proximity was more of a barrier for me since there weren’t that many Asian guys around my area.
If it’s considered a fetish then i supposed i am guilty. I don’t know what happened that made attraction preference to be always labeled as fetish but whatever. I have dated Asian men since the 90s, i worked in a company that was majority Asian in Toronto and just found asian men to have more similar interests as me. I am also a half Polish and half German American and I am not attracted to men that look like the overly muscular blonde blue eyed male members of my family. Yes Asian men are being fetishized by many women through kpop and kdrama but crazy people will always be crazy people regardless of race or whatever.
I agree with your comment. People are attracted to who they are attracted to. A fetish implies some kind of sexual relationship where a person is treated as an object (something that historically has been seen as deviant behavior). Nobody seems to think it's a fetish if someone likes to date a person with blonde hair and blue eyes but for some reason, it's seen as fetishized or "deviant" if someone has an attraction to non-white cultures. As mentioned in the video, I hate the use of the word fetish.
Sounds like to me you just happen to find Asian men attractive which is not a fetish at all. For me at least, racial fetishization means liking a certain certain race or culture because of racist preconceived notion about said race. For example like how people like to date black men because they expect them to be well endowed and dominant in the bedroom, like how men expect Asian women to be submissive and docile, or Black women to be hypersexual, etc.. I don't think its fetishization just because you think Asian men are handsome.
Lol you sound like your bragging. And quite frankly, you will never understand our culture regardless of how many Asian men you have dated. Look into all the white racism against Asians throughout history...I am very protective of Asian men as an Asian female. Dating a certain race doesn't give you a badge of honor, lady. Your comment just reminds me of all the annoying white dudes who brag about their Asian wives. Gross..
The pendulum swings both ways. Back in 2001, I knew 2 girls from Korea here for school who thought that all Americans looked like Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake, boy were they in for a surprise when they saw that the majority of Americans were overweight and not very good looking. I was born with pretty boy features so I've always had girls who liked me, but nowadays due to anime, k-pop and more, they're chasing me. Not complaining.
And once the Asian woman marries the caucasian man and gets divorced they find themselves in a hell they cannot get out of................so many dumped Asian women with non asian surnames with no man in their life.
Liar there's lots of overweight Americans but lots of people in high school are skinny and the average white boy in my town looks better than any kpop guy
I have nothing against BTS or K-Dramas. Asian men are just hot!! I know I’ll never change. Even if BTS or K- Dramas didn’t exist, I would still feel the same. All Asian Men are Hot!
you are part of the problem. you wouldn’t say all black men are hot or all white men are hot but you feel okay to say all asian men are hot. you are taking all asian men and making sweeping generalisations about them, placing all the asian men in one category. i can guarantee you not all asian men are hot. asian men are also capable of crimes and making mistakes too.
I don't mind. It's about time we get sone attention based on our looks/ethnicity. It's a lot different nowadays than when I was starting up in the dating game in the 80's
asian women love being objectified if you took all the attention away they would cry they just play victim as an excuse to be a slut or complain when an !ncel looking guy trys to hit her up cause everyone thinks asian girls are easy and asian girls do themselves easy for avg + non asian men. Them complaining is like this my excuse why Im not virgin or have low bodycount "its not my self everyone objectifies me" lolol victim mindset so they don't have to take accountability.
But if people want to date a specific group, it could be because they really enjoy that culture too. It makes no sense to date a Chinese person if you're interested in Japanese culture. It depends too, if a person likes someone also for their personality and not just as an object.
@@silveriver9 Really? Anime, video games, idol groups, manga, sushi all came from China huh? I'm talking about in modern times, their cultures are not the same. This sounds like when Americans say all Asians are Chinese.
@@brianc21324 Modern times, Jp culture is still very much Chinese but with its own Japanese touch. With that been said, the same applies to anime and video games, they are not originally from jp, they are from other parts of the world but with a Japanese touch. Every country has idol groups. JP is well known to import its culture. Sushi is not modern.
@@silveriver9 In these modern times nobody recognizes idol groups from other countries the way they recognize Japan and Korea, they had inspiration from China as far as architecture but now it's very much it's own thing. Video games became popular with Japanese culture so and Mario and PlayStation are very much known as Japanese. Try telling a Chinese or Japanese person their cultures are still the same, you'd be in for a ride awakening.
@brianc21324 Jp idol groups are mostly popular in jp only. Also, popularity of certain cultural things does not mean it came from that country, which you were claiming it does lol. Educated Japanese ppl recognize that their culture largely stemmed from China. Go ask for yourself. You will be in for a rude awakening. My Japanese friends agree with me. Always give credit when and where it is due.
Let’s not shame people for having preferences for dating and marrying a certain ethnic group . Fetish is when a person has a pump and dump intention without any intent to marry towards an ethnic group.
Andrew: "Maybe you're just an Asain guy who opened her up to Asian culture and that's great!" ...Or maybe I'm an Asian guy who opened her up to American culture and that's great, too!! 🧡 Thanks, guys!
I feel like it's those who have a disdain for anyone of asian descent that call women names. I chalk it up to xenophobia towards AAPI as was demonstrated during covid. Many people tried to shut me up and say that I was wrong but i personally don't see why it's an issues as long as people aren't treated like objects. Like y'all were saying those with interest in America or France aren't called Americaboo or franceaboo. It's only when any slight interest in anything Eastern that people lose their shit over.
I couldn't have said it better. I am Indian and I like K-pop and Korean man but people keep calling me koreaboo, but I also watch Hollywood movies and comedian then no one call me Americanboo. The hypocrisy is unreal
What's wrong with having a racial dating preference? People are quick to call it fetishization even though you may not necessarily be able to control what you like. If you only like someone purely because of their skin color, that's one thing, but is it inherently prejudicial to be attracted to physical features of a certain race?
Hey, I have no issues with ANY females who have fetishes about me. Why not take advantage of that and have fun? Life's too short, some dudes are too sensitive these days. Lol!
@Bluboy30 100% agree. A lot of people just never experienced what it was like to live through the 90’s and the early 2000’s. Compare to the fucking Wasteland I grew up in, I rather be “fetishized” and have girls chase after me any day. I’m proud that my Asian brothers and I are finally getting our days in the sun. 🎉
I think you're conflicting preference with fetish. Fetish in the context of liking a person is expecting him or her to have certain kid of personality attributes based on his physical asset such as race or nationality (like korean).
@@forhadabdul749 I know what fetish means. Heck, I have tons of fetishes about women, so you don't need to explain to me what it means bud. 😂 My comment stands, if you're a guy, especially Asian guy and if non-Asian women have fetish about you, then take advantage of it. Life's too short!
I used to deal with alot of girls that definitlet seemed like they had a fetish. They woulf post korean dudes all over their Instagram, snapchat, stories, phone background ..etc. They went crazy with it
Fetishization simply doesn't impact men the way it does women. Like the other guy said now that asian guys are finally getting some shine whites and asian women are using the fetishization rhetoric to "keep them in their place".
😂 "they" trying to shame western women for showing love to Asian Men ....GTFOH ....don't pretend to help. Western women, proclaim what you like, ignore they ass.
The problem with the word fetish today is the same problem we have with the word woke and the word nazi. Are there actual nazis, woke, and people with fetishes on this planet?? Yes. Does the internet use these words in a colloquial way to mean something other than the root of those words? Yes. It’s just a heuristic way of either ending an argument when you have no argument that is salient, or you’re just diametrically opposed to the other viewpoint that these are the go to words to use to shut down the conversation or dehumanize your opposition. It gets tiring when everything becomes a fetish, which leaves no room to have a proper discussion on what are actually harmful fetishes. The other problem is that these ideas are complicated and drawing the boundaries are complicated where we often time have to overlap so many nuances that it becomes hard to define any line. We’re humans at the end of the day, and we’re going to like what we like, normally it would be amazing if everyone loves and respects one another for who we are and not how we look, but we’re just not that species. But this isn’t to dismiss the harmful and toxic fetishes that exist for each race. Asian people especially are prone to being fetishize and I’m glad we’re talking about it more as Asian people traditionally are bad about talking about the macro social issues that we have to face. I’ve learned alot from many different Asian creators and podcast and books about the Asian experience, also I live the Asian American experience, and it’s cool to see people carve out a space to get out grievances out especially in a time were western cultural and social cohesion have become atomized.
I'm Filipino, I grew up in Northern California, in the 80s and like 90% of my previous gfs were white, so did I have a white girl fetish? or did those women have a Filipino fetish? I also dated Black girls, Mexican girls.
Considering how large the Asian female population is in Northern California I would say you do have a fetish for White women. It's not like you grew up in North Dakota for example where the dating pool is overwhelmingly made up of White women and there are very few Asian women available to date. You do not have the racial demographics of your environment are mostly White excuse for why 90% of the women you have dated have been White.
I’m a female who likes to listening to Korean music, that’s when I started to dipping into Asian culture in general, I always think that asian man seeing me a a koreaboo if i know some of their culture (Asia in general) I like Asian man not for a weird kpop fetish haha 😂 I think most Asian man have family oriented values and are hard working people and that is a +💯points for me…🤍
Sanada and Watanabe are more masculine, plus those dudes are older. Not a good comparison to the younger BTS guys. That's like comparing George Clooney to Justin Beiber. They appeal to different audiences.
I am Indian and i like Kdrama, K-pop, Kfashion, their 5000year old culture, Hanbok and hot Korean man, thus that make me koreaboos? But i also watch Hollywood movies and comedian like Jimmy Kimmel, thus that make me Americanboo or Englishboo? Many people wont like it if everyone start calling non western people who watch American movies as Americanboo so stop hating on K-pop fans and stop calling us koreaboos. I dont know if it's jealousy or trolling but its very offensive
I’ve always been more attracted to Asian men. I’m hapa (Okinawa) and grew up more in touch with my Asian culture. I just do, it’s not a rule nor a fetish. I’ve dated other ethnicities but generally speaking, I feel more of an attraction to Asians. It’s when folks try to justify or give reasons why that you can see stereotypes or yes possibly a fetish come out. Not all Asians are the same and even stereotyping positive attributes is still stereotyping.
Well I lived in the Washington DC Area for a very long time. Ive never seen an Asian man with a non-Asian woman in the DC area not even once and I see more WMAFs than AMAF there as well. Dating is hell on earth for Asian and half-Asian guys there.
White people don't win this argument here's why. If you're white and you date an Asian your labeled as a fetishist, but if you're white and don't date an Asian you're racist. So, you cannot win for losing here.
a "Pick-me" is pretty straight forward. they want to be "picked" by either men or women they find attractive so that partake in things even to their own detriment to be seen and "picked" by those people.
As an Asian guy living in Europe, sometimes I notice teenage girls looking at me with a confused look and I can only assume that they're Koreaboos and trying to determine whether I'm Korean or not haha.
@@PaulVonLoren What's a lie?, and I don't care if it's "easy" or hard because they're Slavic or not, I'm not interested in adding unnecessary complication to my life: wife, kids, girlfriend or whatever.
I always thought something was a fetish when you were only attracted to one specific characteristic whether it was a particular race or ethnicity, big noses, accents, etc instead of many aspects of the person themselves.
Fetish is sexualizing something that is not sexual. Calling Asian men a fetish means Asian men are not sexual. It is sexually comparing Asian men to door knob.
Okay! Great video y'all! I appreciate hearing the gender dynamic approach but in a lot of those examples you were talking about white folks fetishizing unknown white person. And oppression only really goes in one direction. So of course there's not "Hollywood fetish" cuz as David said "white people are the norm." If you like a white guy for his limp hair it's cuz you like limp hair not cuz you fetishize white ppls features. They were never stereotyped in America for that LOL😅 In the situation where white girl Becky is fetishizing a black man the black man can also gain some social currency and he may view that as more important than his own liberation. Cuz it's literally a way to survive! As a mixed Black kid, I grew up around a lot of Filipino and Vietnamese people and I think my familiarity with the culture growing up meant that in my 20s I mostly dated Asian guys. Was never into Kpop tho. But even now I miss the culture I was around as a kid. I'm not about to go to certain "Asian placess" unaccompanied lol. 1. Some older Asian ppl have prejudice towards Black ppl 2. It's icky in some ways cuz it's not a space FOR ME. I talked to my Asian girlfriend about my attraction and she kind of laughed and was like, "you like men than are basically portrayed as unlikable" (at the time) And again oppression going in 1 direction is a HUGE part of this. If I was a Black MAN looking for Asian woman the dynamic is totally different. Thanks for reading if you do❤ Love your vids!
No liking someone of another race is ok people just need to mind their own business Everyone that has a problem with non Asian people liking and being with Asian people need to shut up and leave it alone
Fetishization isn't a bad thing. It's only a problem when you can't notice who's a fetishizer or not but that's on you. Besides people always have some sort of fetish whether it be height, facial features or whatever.
I think it comes down to knowledge, most of the people with a fetish seem to have a rose tainted glasses view of their subject, in the case of Asian women for example being having hyper femininity compared to actually knowing these women in real life. people will be attracted to who they want and the is not likely to change just make sure you are informed. people will talk regardless of what you may do anyways.
Don’t you think if a white guy that likes Asian girls and white girl that like Asian guys met that their mutual interest in Asian culture would attract them to each other as much as if the other were Asian? Is it more mutual interests in food, music, culture…
In my personal experience, I wouldn't say that non Asian women interested in me was fetish related. Long before K-pop took off all over the world, Asian men typically only had negative stereotypes associated with them. I grew up in a location with majortiy White, then Latino, then Asian, then Black, then other. So, it only stands to reason, that the handfull of women who did express any kind of interest in me, ratio wise, were non Asian. Of course, the number of Asian women interested in me were far less, which makes sense, according to the available population numbers. Although, there was that one time, I met a woman through a dating site & she had previously dated an Asian guy too. Anyhow, didn't really work out, when I discovered that the one original photo she used, was like 10 years old! Lol Once, I saw a current photo, I was like, she looked nothing like the person I was phyiscally interested in. ..... ...
Is it just me, that doesn't think Kpop is everything and NigaHiga and Fung Bros along other Asian American youtubers of early 2010's that put Asian men on the map? Cause I've been aware of Asians and their culture going back to American Best Dance Crew when it was on air and countless asian groups they had on. Andrew, Ryan, and these dance crews and asian dancers and choreographers gave visibility to Asian men being perceived as attractive. I think since y'all are obsessed on this topic y'all need to start putting respect the visibility that asian youtubers brought during early 2010's
Anecdotally yes, statistically no. Here is statistically the order of who White women are most likely to marry. 1.White men 2.Hispanic men 3.Black men 4.Asian men
Are you attracted asians and listen to BTS thats fine. Are you super obsessed with BTS Kpop and have super weird specifc beliefs about how Asian men need to look like/act like K pop star. If you are in the 2nd group i will giggle about that
In my experience there are a few Western girls that do genuinely find Asian guys attractive. But it's really few. Most of them are just curious or they know that Asian guys tend to be good with money. But the Asian guy still needs some Western swagger. So I wouldn't call it a fetish for most Western women. They still ideally want the jawline, the height, the swag, the money, just the same as other dudes. The fetish thing pretty much breaks down when they are with Asian guys in person. Most Western women are xenophobic about Asian guys.
Let's face it, the phenomenon of women finding asian guys attractive is no different than growing up in a white society and finding white people attractive even if you're not white yourself. Yes there are people that take it too far when it comes to fetishizing their favorite K-pop or K-drama actors but the general of trend of finding asian guys attractive is a recent thing and that's why I think it makes some ppl uncomfortable.
Anecdotally yes, statistically no. Here is statistically the order of who White women are most likely to marry. 1.White men 2.Hispanic men 3.Black men 4.Asian men
@@josephimperatrice5552 because asian men are a minority in the west and Europe. In central asia and eastern Europea, there are far more white women married to asian men than other way around
I wouldnt necessarily what you said is exclusive to any particular race or culture. I’d say as people age then grow more conservative . And I guess the “genderr ole” of sumbmissive women is “ sociallyconservative” so yeah 27+ guys may prefer more docile and/or submissive women despite having different altaste in their younger years
Certain Asian women out there who are more invested in condemning “Koreaboos” liking Asian men (a relatively new phenomena), than they are condemning white men denigrating Asian men (something that’s been going on for generations). Often it’s not even talked about, and those Asian women think that nobody else notices.
it's ok...there are us who can handle all that heat w/o breaking a sweat :D
And all of them have white bf or husbands.
They are Asian women who date white nationalists its quite common.
@@bigbigdog Exactly. They condemn Koreaboos, but have no issues with Asian women crapping on Asian men.
i never found asian guy fetishization harmful/bad (most of the time it is harmless/cute where the girl just likes kpop or asian culture), but i have seen countless amount of times where guys fetishize asian girls in a harmful/toxic/dangerous way and many asian girls get degraded/harrassed especially by incels of all races as just sexual
It depends. As long as they dress normally and such but then there are those that cosplay in regular life and that's just too far.
I agree man. When the attraction is rooted in racism and is problematic I think that's where it is harmful. I've seen examples of western men lusting after underanged Asian girls in third world countries, that is fetishization. But a girl liking an Asian guy because she reminds him of a leading man in a kdrama, where the harm in that? That's not at all different from girls liking guys because they remind them of their favorite musician or actor.
@@Sunbro98267 yes correct
do women like Asian guys? ...I thought they were too effeminate for most women lol
These harmful guys watch too much WMAF porn
There was a very real stigma to finding Asian men attractive in the past. I literally was made fun of by friends and family. This was before any BTS member was even born. I’m glad that things now are more open for everyone and that Asian men are getting their shine. Specially the ones that do not conform to a Kpok look. If I were on a dating app I would definitely favor dating Asian guys for their entrepreneurship, focus on family, education, and other cultural values that are shared.
There’s also a stereotype that the nonasians who do tend to be chubby (not thicc) and just unattractive. So it’s further mocked
@@Ewang2727 I look like Sydney Tamiia Poitier, so that was definitely not my case 😂😂😂I think not having proximity was more of a barrier for me since there weren’t that many Asian guys around my area.
Lol
They're simps
@@Ewang2727 they're simps
@@nubeazul5963 Asian men act too weird
If it’s considered a fetish then i supposed i am guilty. I don’t know what happened that made attraction preference to be always labeled as fetish but whatever. I have dated Asian men since the 90s, i worked in a company that was majority Asian in Toronto and just found asian men to have more similar interests as me. I am also a half Polish and half German American and I am not attracted to men that look like the overly muscular blonde blue eyed male members of my family. Yes Asian men are being fetishized by many women through kpop and kdrama but crazy people will always be crazy people regardless of race or whatever.
I agree with your comment. People are attracted to who they are attracted to. A fetish implies some kind of sexual relationship where a person is treated as an object (something that historically has been seen as deviant behavior).
Nobody seems to think it's a fetish if someone likes to date a person with blonde hair and blue eyes but for some reason, it's seen as fetishized or "deviant" if someone has an attraction to non-white cultures.
As mentioned in the video, I hate the use of the word fetish.
Maybe Asian men are just your preference- it doesn't have to be a fetish
Sounds like to me you just happen to find Asian men attractive which is not a fetish at all. For me at least, racial fetishization means liking a certain certain race or culture because of racist preconceived notion about said race. For example like how people like to date black men because they expect them to be well endowed and dominant in the bedroom, like how men expect Asian women to be submissive and docile, or Black women to be hypersexual, etc.. I don't think its fetishization just because you think Asian men are handsome.
Lol you sound like your bragging. And quite frankly, you will never understand our culture regardless of how many Asian men you have dated. Look into all the white racism against Asians throughout history...I am very protective of Asian men as an Asian female. Dating a certain race doesn't give you a badge of honor, lady. Your comment just reminds me of all the annoying white dudes who brag about their Asian wives. Gross..
I couldn't have said it better. Love your comment
The pendulum swings both ways. Back in 2001, I knew 2 girls from Korea here for school who thought that all Americans looked like Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake, boy were they in for a surprise when they saw that the majority of Americans were overweight and not very good looking. I was born with pretty boy features so I've always had girls who liked me, but nowadays due to anime, k-pop and more, they're chasing me. Not complaining.
Unfortunately it swings more on one side but not the Asian men side. In terms of romance East Asian men still have it the worst unfortunately.
And once the Asian woman marries the caucasian man and gets divorced they find themselves in a hell they cannot get out of................so many dumped Asian women with non asian surnames with no man in their life.
Liar there's lots of overweight Americans but lots of people in high school are skinny and the average white boy in my town looks better than any kpop guy
I have nothing against BTS or K-Dramas. Asian men are just hot!! I know I’ll never change. Even if BTS or K- Dramas didn’t exist, I would still feel the same. All Asian Men are Hot!
you are part of the problem. you wouldn’t say all black men are hot or all white men are hot but you feel okay to say all asian men are hot. you are taking all asian men and making sweeping generalisations about them, placing all the asian men in one category. i can guarantee you not all asian men are hot. asian men are also capable of crimes and making mistakes too.
I don't mind. It's about time we get sone attention based on our looks/ethnicity. It's a lot different nowadays than when I was starting up in the dating game in the 80's
Asian women complain about being objectified. Asian men complain about not being objectified LOL.
Better to be wanted than not wanted at all
whether I was male/female/intersex and whatever ethnicity I would rather be used for anything but money
What a mess. Most people still think Asians are pushovers. Though like someone else already said that it's better to be liked rather than not liked.
Asian men are usually handsome so their looks usually are not the crux
asian women love being objectified if you took all the attention away they would cry they just play victim as an excuse to be a slut or complain when an !ncel looking guy trys to hit her up cause everyone thinks asian girls are easy and asian girls do themselves easy for avg + non asian men. Them complaining is like this my excuse why Im not virgin or have low bodycount "its not my self everyone objectifies me" lolol victim mindset so they don't have to take accountability.
But if people want to date a specific group, it could be because they really enjoy that culture too. It makes no sense to date a Chinese person if you're interested in Japanese culture. It depends too, if a person likes someone also for their personality and not just as an object.
Japanese culture came from China. Also, modern day Japanese ppl came from China and Korea. They are all Asian.
@@silveriver9 Really? Anime, video games, idol groups, manga, sushi all came from China huh? I'm talking about in modern times, their cultures are not the same. This sounds like when Americans say all Asians are Chinese.
@@brianc21324 Modern times, Jp culture is still very much Chinese but with its own Japanese touch. With that been said, the same applies to anime and video games, they are not originally from jp, they are from other parts of the world but with a Japanese touch. Every country has idol groups. JP is well known to import its culture. Sushi is not modern.
@@silveriver9 In these modern times nobody recognizes idol groups from other countries the way they recognize Japan and Korea, they had inspiration from China as far as architecture but now it's very much it's own thing. Video games became popular with Japanese culture so and Mario and PlayStation are very much known as Japanese. Try telling a Chinese or Japanese person their cultures are still the same, you'd be in for a ride awakening.
@brianc21324 Jp idol groups are mostly popular in jp only. Also, popularity of certain cultural things does not mean it came from that country, which you were claiming it does lol. Educated Japanese ppl recognize that their culture largely stemmed from China. Go ask for yourself. You will be in for a rude awakening. My Japanese friends agree with me. Always give credit when and where it is due.
Let’s not shame people for having preferences for dating and marrying a certain ethnic group . Fetish is when a person has a pump and dump intention without any intent to marry towards an ethnic group.
K pop is weird
Andrew: "Maybe you're just an Asain guy who opened her up to Asian culture and that's great!"
...Or maybe I'm an Asian guy who opened her up to American culture and that's great, too!! 🧡 Thanks, guys!
I feel like it's those who have a disdain for anyone of asian descent that call women names. I chalk it up to xenophobia towards AAPI as was demonstrated during covid. Many people tried to shut me up and say that I was wrong but i personally don't see why it's an issues as long as people aren't treated like objects. Like y'all were saying those with interest in America or France aren't called Americaboo or franceaboo. It's only when any slight interest in anything Eastern that people lose their shit over.
I couldn't have said it better. I am Indian and I like K-pop and Korean man but people keep calling me koreaboo, but I also watch Hollywood movies and comedian then no one call me Americanboo. The hypocrisy is unreal
I can appreciate all men from all cultures.
What's wrong with having a racial dating preference? People are quick to call it fetishization even though you may not necessarily be able to control what you like. If you only like someone purely because of their skin color, that's one thing, but is it inherently prejudicial to be attracted to physical features of a certain race?
There's a difference between a preference and fetishizing.
DOn't care what you call it... whatever helps, it helps
yes
Yea cuz y'all get no play anyway lol
Hey, I have no issues with ANY females who have fetishes about me. Why not take advantage of that and have fun? Life's too short, some dudes are too sensitive these days. Lol!
@Bluboy30 100% agree. A lot of people just never experienced what it was like to live through the 90’s and the early 2000’s. Compare to the fucking Wasteland I grew up in, I rather be “fetishized” and have girls chase after me any day. I’m proud that my Asian brothers and I are finally getting our days in the sun. 🎉
I think you're conflicting preference with fetish. Fetish in the context of liking a person is expecting him or her to have certain kid of personality attributes based on his physical asset such as race or nationality (like korean).
@@forhadabdul749 I know what fetish means. Heck, I have tons of fetishes about women, so you don't need to explain to me what it means bud. 😂 My comment stands, if you're a guy, especially Asian guy and if non-Asian women have fetish about you, then take advantage of it. Life's too short!
I used to deal with alot of girls that definitlet seemed like they had a fetish. They woulf post korean dudes all over their Instagram, snapchat, stories, phone background ..etc. They went crazy with it
Fetishization simply doesn't impact men the way it does women. Like the other guy said now that asian guys are finally getting some shine whites and asian women are using the fetishization rhetoric to "keep them in their place".
😂 "they" trying to shame western women for showing love to Asian Men ....GTFOH ....don't pretend to help. Western women, proclaim what you like, ignore they ass.
The problem with the word fetish today is the same problem we have with the word woke and the word nazi. Are there actual nazis, woke, and people with fetishes on this planet?? Yes. Does the internet use these words in a colloquial way to mean something other than the root of those words? Yes. It’s just a heuristic way of either ending an argument when you have no argument that is salient, or you’re just diametrically opposed to the other viewpoint that these are the go to words to use to shut down the conversation or dehumanize your opposition. It gets tiring when everything becomes a fetish, which leaves no room to have a proper discussion on what are actually harmful fetishes. The other problem is that these ideas are complicated and drawing the boundaries are complicated where we often time have to overlap so many nuances that it becomes hard to define any line. We’re humans at the end of the day, and we’re going to like what we like, normally it would be amazing if everyone loves and respects one another for who we are and not how we look, but we’re just not that species.
But this isn’t to dismiss the harmful and toxic fetishes that exist for each race. Asian people especially are prone to being fetishize and I’m glad we’re talking about it more as Asian people traditionally are bad about talking about the macro social issues that we have to face. I’ve learned alot from many different Asian creators and podcast and books about the Asian experience, also I live the Asian American experience, and it’s cool to see people carve out a space to get out grievances out especially in a time were western cultural and social cohesion have become atomized.
I'm Filipino, I grew up in Northern California, in the 80s and like 90% of my previous gfs were white, so did I have a white girl fetish? or did those women have a Filipino fetish? I also dated Black girls, Mexican girls.
Considering how large the Asian female population is in Northern California I would say you do have a fetish for White women. It's not like you grew up in North Dakota for example where the dating pool is overwhelmingly made up of White women and there are very few Asian women available to date. You do not have the racial demographics of your environment are mostly White excuse for why 90% of the women you have dated have been White.
The thumbnail to the video hella cracks me up though they 😂😂😂 they put a Light-Skinned Ass Asian dude getting peeked on by a White girl 👀 👀 😆😆😆
Media in general opens up the whole thing. I happened to have long hair when Justin Nguyen was on 21 Jump St. back then, I was like “what racism”?
I’m a female who likes to listening to Korean music, that’s when I started to dipping into Asian culture in general, I always think that asian man seeing me a a koreaboo if i know some of their culture (Asia in general) I like Asian man not for a weird kpop fetish haha 😂 I think most Asian man have family oriented values and are hard working people and that is a +💯points for me…🤍
How is Korean guys singing like nick Carter actually Korean music
Sanada and Watanabe are more masculine, plus those dudes are older. Not a good comparison to the younger BTS guys. That's like comparing George Clooney to Justin Beiber. They appeal to different audiences.
I am Indian and i like Kdrama, K-pop, Kfashion, their 5000year old culture, Hanbok and hot Korean man, thus that make me koreaboos? But i also watch Hollywood movies and comedian like Jimmy Kimmel, thus that make me Americanboo or Englishboo? Many people wont like it if everyone start calling non western people who watch American movies as Americanboo so stop hating on K-pop fans and stop calling us koreaboos. I dont know if it's jealousy or trolling but its very offensive
I’ve always been more attracted to Asian men. I’m hapa (Okinawa) and grew up more in touch with my Asian culture. I just do, it’s not a rule nor a fetish. I’ve dated other ethnicities but generally speaking, I feel more of an attraction to Asians. It’s when folks try to justify or give reasons why that you can see stereotypes or yes possibly a fetish come out. Not all Asians are the same and even stereotyping positive attributes is still stereotyping.
Well I lived in the Washington DC Area for a very long time. Ive never seen an Asian man with a non-Asian woman in the DC area not even once and I see more WMAFs than AMAF there as well. Dating is hell on earth for Asian and half-Asian guys there.
What about Asian women liking and wanting to date white men?
White people don't win this argument here's why. If you're white and you date an Asian your labeled as a fetishist, but if you're white and don't date an Asian you're racist. So, you cannot win for losing here.
a "Pick-me" is pretty straight forward. they want to be "picked" by either men or women they find attractive so that partake in things even to their own detriment to be seen and "picked" by those people.
Are Asian men complaining about fetishizing though? I think the majority of Asian men don’t mind it so who is complaining about it?
Other people mostly
White men
@@parkjibuns638 Like who Asian girls? Lol
@PurpleDoritos666 not necessarily. Mostly those who are xenophobic about anything aapi
@@parkjibuns638 O, just wondering, all my Asian guy friends never complain about it
mostly, not always, but everytime.
As an Asian guy living in Europe, sometimes I notice teenage girls looking at me with a confused look and I can only assume that they're Koreaboos and trying to determine whether I'm Korean or not haha.
In European countries like Germany, UK, Norway I heard dating is hell for Asian and half-Asian men there even worse than the East Coast of the USA.
@@wilkesmcdermid7906 Idk, haven't tried to date anyone here, but If I were to guess, yeah it probably is.
Easy if for gen z asian guys. UNless ur so ugly, than that's just u. Probably go to gym and start improving. @@wilkesmcdermid7906
@@PaulVonLoren What's a lie?, and I don't care if it's "easy" or hard because they're Slavic or not, I'm not interested in adding unnecessary complication to my life: wife, kids, girlfriend or whatever.
@@PaulVonLoren well good for you I guess, I consider married men nothing but hollow shells of their true/former selves.
I always thought something was a fetish when you were only attracted to one specific characteristic whether it was a particular race or ethnicity, big noses, accents, etc instead of many aspects of the person themselves.
agree
Short answer: no, not a fetish.
Couldn't you pick another Asian guy for the thumbnail?
RIP Jonghyun 😢
They changed it RIP JONGHYUN
Fetish is sexualizing something that is not sexual. Calling Asian men a fetish means Asian men are not sexual. It is sexually comparing Asian men to door knob.
Okay! Great video y'all!
I appreciate hearing the gender dynamic approach but in a lot of those examples you were talking about white folks fetishizing unknown white person. And oppression only really goes in one direction. So of course there's not "Hollywood fetish" cuz as David said "white people are the norm." If you like a white guy for his limp hair it's cuz you like limp hair not cuz you fetishize white ppls features. They were never stereotyped in America for that LOL😅
In the situation where white girl Becky is fetishizing a black man the black man can also gain some social currency and he may view that as more important than his own liberation. Cuz it's literally a way to survive!
As a mixed Black kid, I grew up around a lot of Filipino and Vietnamese people and I think my familiarity with the culture growing up meant that in my 20s I mostly dated Asian guys. Was never into Kpop tho. But even now I miss the culture I was around as a kid. I'm not about to go to certain "Asian placess" unaccompanied lol. 1. Some older Asian ppl have prejudice towards Black ppl 2. It's icky in some ways cuz it's not a space FOR ME. I talked to my Asian girlfriend about my attraction and she kind of laughed and was like, "you like men than are basically portrayed as unlikable" (at the time)
And again oppression going in 1 direction is a HUGE part of this. If I was a Black MAN looking for Asian woman the dynamic is totally different. Thanks for reading if you do❤ Love your vids!
Oh sh!t wait! I LOVE the kdrama protect the boss lol
No liking someone of another race is ok people just need to mind their own business
Everyone that has a problem with non Asian people liking and being with Asian people need to shut up and leave it alone
Fetishization isn't a bad thing. It's only a problem when you can't notice who's a fetishizer or not but that's on you. Besides people always have some sort of fetish whether it be height, facial features or whatever.
I think it comes down to knowledge, most of the people with a fetish seem to have a rose tainted glasses view of their subject, in the case of Asian women for example being having hyper femininity compared to actually knowing these women in real life. people will be attracted to who they want and the is not likely to change just make sure you are informed. people will talk regardless of what you may do anyways.
Yes it is,,, use to your advantage Asian men
Don’t you think if a white guy that likes Asian girls and white girl that like Asian guys met that their mutual interest in Asian culture would attract them to each other as much as if the other were Asian? Is it more mutual interests in food, music, culture…
I thought pick me Asians were the same thing as token Asians. You know, they will say anything to be in the good graces of the dominant culture.
In my personal experience, I wouldn't say that non Asian women interested in me was fetish related. Long before K-pop took off all over the world, Asian men typically only had negative stereotypes associated with them.
I grew up in a location with majortiy White, then Latino, then Asian, then Black, then other. So, it only stands to reason, that the handfull of women who did express any kind of interest in me, ratio wise, were non Asian. Of course, the number of Asian women interested in me were far less, which makes sense, according to the available population numbers.
Although, there was that one time, I met a woman through a dating site & she had previously dated an Asian guy too. Anyhow, didn't really work out, when I discovered that the one original photo she used, was like 10 years old! Lol Once, I saw a current photo, I was like, she looked nothing like the person I was phyiscally interested in. ..... ...
the negative stereotype is made in western media like hollywood where asian men are portrayed as desexualized kungfu master and nerds.
Is it just me, that doesn't think Kpop is everything and NigaHiga and Fung Bros along other Asian American youtubers of early 2010's that put Asian men on the map? Cause I've been aware of Asians and their culture going back to American Best Dance Crew when it was on air and countless asian groups they had on.
Andrew, Ryan, and these dance crews and asian dancers and choreographers gave visibility to Asian men being perceived as attractive. I think since y'all are obsessed on this topic y'all need to start putting respect the visibility that asian youtubers brought during early 2010's
The a Mexican lady that is in Korea obsessed with them it's bad I think someone exposed her I don't know how bad it is
0:48 hahahaha
Asian guys on fire rn 😆
Anecdotally yes, statistically no. Here is statistically the order of who White women are most likely to marry.
1.White men
2.Hispanic men
3.Black men
4.Asian men
Props guys. Lol.
Are you attracted asians and listen to BTS thats fine. Are you super obsessed with BTS Kpop and have super weird specifc beliefs about how Asian men need to look like/act like K pop star. If you are in the 2nd group i will giggle about that
LOL. Anything that rocks your boat.
cant be a fetish..... ive had non asian women like me for who i am!!!!!
Asian are the most attractive race on Earth this time honestly
are u asian man?
Nope
I don't like east asian men. More southeast Asian and mixed for me
You are not attracted to The Fung Bros? You want Dave Bautista right?
@josephimperatrice5552 uh no??? Why would I be attracted to the fung bros lol just interested about their content.
The fung bros are not even attractive despite being Asian guys. I'm Asian too btw
The fung bros are not even attractive despite being Asians guys. I'm also Asian too btw
In my experience there are a few Western girls that do genuinely find Asian guys attractive. But it's really few. Most of them are just curious or they know that Asian guys tend to be good with money. But the Asian guy still needs some Western swagger. So I wouldn't call it a fetish for most Western women. They still ideally want the jawline, the height, the swag, the money, just the same as other dudes. The fetish thing pretty much breaks down when they are with Asian guys in person. Most Western women are xenophobic about Asian guys.
Let's face it, the phenomenon of women finding asian guys attractive is no different than growing up in a white society and finding white people attractive even if you're not white yourself. Yes there are people that take it too far when it comes to fetishizing their favorite K-pop or K-drama actors but the general of trend of finding asian guys attractive is a recent thing and that's why I think it makes some ppl uncomfortable.
Anecdotally yes, statistically no. Here is statistically the order of who White women are most likely to marry.
1.White men
2.Hispanic men
3.Black men
4.Asian men
@@josephimperatrice5552 because asian men are a minority in the west and Europe. In central asia and eastern Europea, there are far more white women married to asian men than other way around
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So are Black men and Hispanic men but White women are still way more likely to marry them than they are to marry Asian men.
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Mf’s are hatin on Korean dudes yet the very fact that they are even being considered for dates now is because of the Kwave. TY 🇰🇷
It's a phase.
Yo
Asian guys want there women submissive lol. Not for me.
Nice pfp
And you think Western men don't? How did Andrew Tate get so popular then? Your internalized racism is showing.
Don’t worry. We don’t want you either
I think men from ALL races prefer submissive women. 😂 There’s a reason passport bros is a thing HEEKIM 🤔
I wouldnt necessarily what you said is exclusive to any particular race or culture. I’d say as people age then grow more conservative . And I guess the “genderr ole” of sumbmissive women is “ sociallyconservative” so yeah 27+ guys may prefer more docile and/or submissive women despite having different altaste in their younger years