I have an OS yearly subscription which after about 15 years of use works out more expensive than buying the whole set of maps. Also you can buy parts of the OS map of the UK through Garmin Basecamp as I did that for the area around where I live. About 20 pounds as I remember for quite a large area. So I plan on OS map and use Topo Active on the trail. If I need to replan I have the route saved on my phone plus downloaded OS map. Replan on OS on my phone and send to GPS unit as GPX file on the hood via Bluetooth. Replanning problem solved.
Forgot to say with an OS map sub and the app you can snap to any footpath on the standard map. I plan by switching from the OS25 where I ‘see’ the path to the standard where I plot the route. It snaps to any path outside of national parks. The same function occurs on the aerial photos too. The OS sub is very useful in my opinion.
Nicely presented video, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I used to use OS maps on my hand held because the topo maps weren’t being very reliable but then I discovered TalkyToaster maps and their maps are brilliant. They’re based on Open Street Maps and include DEM, they are also routable. I took out a 24 month subscription for the British Isles for £50. They are updated weekly and when I’ve discovered a problem with a path, I’ve emailed TT and the problem has been fixed the following week. I’ve been really happy over the last 24 months and have just renewed again. They are well worth a look as they work on my GPSMap66i and Fenix 7 watch.
Or .... Buy Talkytoaster maps at a fraction of the price and upload to the GPS or various Garmin devices including the various Garmin fitness trackers 🤷🏼♂️
I put OS Maps on my Etrex 32 mainly because I wanted to get more familiar with the OS Map format, whilst I was "weaning " myself off relying on GPS and onto paper. The only issue I found is that the refresh time leaves a bit to be desired when you're zooming in/out (and sometimes doesn't zoom lol)
Is is a 1:50 or 1:25k map card you are using in the unit? The only consolidation is if you are planning your route beforehand you should not need to zoom in and out to much, this may help - ruclips.net/video/cFZcY2bND4M/видео.html
Sadly you can't put that mapping on your GPS unit, but you can use it in the same way that I describe using our free OS route planning software. I explain this at this point in the video - ruclips.net/video/CpVoSqmYW_0/видео.html
I have an OS subscription and I use it through the OS app on my phone. Planned routes still work even where there is no phone reception because the GPS still works. Given all this, what are the arguments why i might benefit from getting a dedicated handheld GPS unit?
If you are doing low level walks in good conditions I would continue using your phone with a paper map as a backup. A standalone GPS unit comes into it's own as it is a true four season device - 1. GPS units with up to 180 hours of battery life in sub zero conditions 2. GPS units work from upto x 5 satellite systems with many taking being multiband (two signals from each satellite signal), where a phone uses x 1 satellite system and the cell coverage to get a more accurate position fix 3. Screen technology - GPS screens are made for the outdoors, they work in bright sunshine -. and you can hit if you drop them they will not break ruclips.net/video/Y4xDO76Isy8/видео.html And as Langdale/ Ambleside Mountain rescue stated in a recent article - “Navigating with a mobile is a big no-no” - gpstraining.co.uk/blogs/news/stop-using-smartphones-to-navigate-mountains-warn-mountain-rescue If you want to find out more please do watch a few 'walk and talk' videos where I put a number of GPS units through their paces - ruclips.net/video/I3ENmnzaYs8/видео.html I hope this helps and stay safe.
Is it better to have the OS 1:2500 map or 1:5000 maps? is the 1:50000 sufficient? Also, can you get map updates and do you have to purchase updates every time?
It is a personal preference. 1:25k is better but it is significantly more expensive than the 1:50 version. But, the 1:50k do show everything you need. This video may help - ruclips.net/video/s5_3FboxF9M/видео.html
Do any maps show on the countryside paths whether the entrance/exit are stiles, gates etc as it’s impossible getting a large ebike over stiles and need to chart a route bypassing them?
All bridleways (which you should be on with a bike) should have gates, as the name refers to you should have access that is suitable for a horse. If you find bridleways with no gates you should report to the local right of way officer (county council or national park).
@@ukgpstraining Quite a few local bridleways are very difficult to ride on with steep incline and large rocks everywhere. Also some of the gates are padlocked. And I don’t know any normal path where bicycles don’t ride on them unless impossible to ride.
Do you ever use Talky Toaster maps? The quality of OS is shocking for what they cost. They pixelate like mad. 1:25 scale is useless once below 500feet.
We have some videos in the pipeline re Talky Toaster maps, but currently these are all going to be watch based (as you can't get OS maps on a watch). I agree regarding the cost, sadly that's the licence fee that OS take on each sale. I don't want to state how much the card is without the licence fee but you would be truly shocked, frankly it is just a tax! If you are planning your route before you head off you really should not need to zoom in to much on the map as the majority of the time you will just be 'following the arrow'. What unit are you using?
@@ukgpstraining I am using the 65s, I purchased it from yourselves about a month back. I have OS 1:25/1:50 and Talky Toaster British Isles and Canary Islands on it also I prefer Talky Toaster myself it features so many paths the OS misses plus on the rare occasion one isn't on you can add it yourself.. I'd like to see Jon do a walk and talk with the Talky Toaster maps instead of OS all the time, even better if it's on the 65s he does it with. :-)
I have an OS yearly subscription which after about 15 years of use works out more expensive than buying the whole set of maps. Also you can buy parts of the OS map of the UK through Garmin Basecamp as I did that for the area around where I live. About 20 pounds as I remember for quite a large area. So I plan on OS map and use Topo Active on the trail. If I need to replan I have the route saved on my phone plus downloaded OS map. Replan on OS on my phone and send to GPS unit as GPX file on the hood via Bluetooth. Replanning problem solved.
Forgot to say with an OS map sub and the app you can snap to any footpath on the standard map. I plan by switching from the OS25 where I ‘see’ the path to the standard where I plot the route. It snaps to any path outside of national parks. The same function occurs on the aerial photos too. The OS sub is very useful in my opinion.
Nicely presented video, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I used to use OS maps on my hand held because the topo maps weren’t being very reliable but then I discovered TalkyToaster maps and their maps are brilliant. They’re based on Open Street Maps and include DEM, they are also routable. I took out a 24 month subscription for the British Isles for £50. They are updated weekly and when I’ve discovered a problem with a path, I’ve emailed TT and the problem has been fixed the following week. I’ve been really happy over the last 24 months and have just renewed again. They are well worth a look as they work on my GPSMap66i and Fenix 7 watch.
Mark, thanks for your comments and I should really do a video on Talky Toaster maps, I like the idea of them on the watch!
Love all these videos
Many thanks for that, is is appreciated.
Make a review for spot x pls
Or .... Buy Talkytoaster maps at a fraction of the price and upload to the GPS or various Garmin devices including the various Garmin fitness trackers 🤷🏼♂️
How good are the TT maps Phil
I put OS Maps on my Etrex 32 mainly because I wanted to get more familiar with the OS Map format, whilst I was "weaning " myself off relying on GPS and onto paper. The only issue I found is that the refresh time leaves a bit to be desired when you're zooming in/out (and sometimes doesn't zoom lol)
Is is a 1:50 or 1:25k map card you are using in the unit? The only consolidation is if you are planning your route beforehand you should not need to zoom in and out to much, this may help - ruclips.net/video/cFZcY2bND4M/видео.html
Hi John, I have an OS subscription, is there way of loading/coupling it on my Garmin 66ST. Cheers
Sadly you can't put that mapping on your GPS unit, but you can use it in the same way that I describe using our free OS route planning software. I explain this at this point in the video - ruclips.net/video/CpVoSqmYW_0/видео.html
@@ukgpstraining Gotcha, thanks. I'll have a play this weekend. Thanks Again
I have an OS subscription and I use it through the OS app on my phone. Planned routes still work even where there is no phone reception because the GPS still works. Given all this, what are the arguments why i might benefit from getting a dedicated handheld GPS unit?
If you are doing low level walks in good conditions I would continue using your phone with a paper map as a backup.
A standalone GPS unit comes into it's own as it is a true four season device -
1. GPS units with up to 180 hours of battery life in sub zero conditions
2. GPS units work from upto x 5 satellite systems with many taking being multiband (two signals from each satellite signal), where a phone uses x 1 satellite system and the cell coverage to get a more accurate position fix
3. Screen technology - GPS screens are made for the outdoors, they work in bright sunshine -. and you can hit if you drop them they will not break ruclips.net/video/Y4xDO76Isy8/видео.html
And as Langdale/ Ambleside Mountain rescue stated in a recent article - “Navigating with a mobile is a big no-no” - gpstraining.co.uk/blogs/news/stop-using-smartphones-to-navigate-mountains-warn-mountain-rescue
If you want to find out more please do watch a few 'walk and talk' videos where I put a number of GPS units through their paces - ruclips.net/video/I3ENmnzaYs8/видео.html
I hope this helps and stay safe.
Is it better to have the OS 1:2500 map or 1:5000 maps? is the 1:50000 sufficient? Also, can you get map updates and do you have to purchase updates every time?
It is a personal preference. 1:25k is better but it is significantly more expensive than the 1:50 version. But, the 1:50k do show everything you need. This video may help - ruclips.net/video/s5_3FboxF9M/видео.html
What is ordinance survey? I’m not in the UK
Ordnance Survey is our local map set in the UK. I hope this helps.
Do any maps show on the countryside paths whether the entrance/exit are stiles, gates etc as it’s impossible getting a large ebike over stiles and need to chart a route bypassing them?
All bridleways (which you should be on with a bike) should have gates, as the name refers to you should have access that is suitable for a horse. If you find bridleways with no gates you should report to the local right of way officer (county council or national park).
@@ukgpstraining Quite a few local bridleways are very difficult to ride on with steep incline and large rocks everywhere. Also some of the gates are padlocked. And I don’t know any normal path where bicycles don’t ride on them unless impossible to ride.
Is this osmap thing valid only for UK or in general? I live in Italy by the way
The OS maps are our local maps for the UK only. I hope this helps.
Do you ever use Talky Toaster maps? The quality of OS is shocking for what they cost. They pixelate like mad. 1:25 scale is useless once below 500feet.
We have some videos in the pipeline re Talky Toaster maps, but currently these are all going to be watch based (as you can't get OS maps on a watch).
I agree regarding the cost, sadly that's the licence fee that OS take on each sale. I don't want to state how much the card is without the licence fee but you would be truly shocked, frankly it is just a tax!
If you are planning your route before you head off you really should not need to zoom in to much on the map as the majority of the time you will just be 'following the arrow'.
What unit are you using?
@@ukgpstraining I am using the 65s, I purchased it from yourselves about a month back. I have OS 1:25/1:50 and Talky Toaster British Isles and Canary Islands on it also I prefer Talky Toaster myself it features so many paths the OS misses plus on the rare occasion one isn't on you can add it yourself.. I'd like to see Jon do a walk and talk with the Talky Toaster maps instead of OS all the time, even better if it's on the 65s he does it with. :-)
@@ricmeister2011 I will pass your comments on to Jon and you never know.